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Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
These people are like the Woke Schmucks in the West Change the meaning of whatever does not fit their agenda.
At first, I thought the same thing. However, after watching the video, the guy made sense regarding Quranic verses about Rijal & Nisa.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
again same guy who picks and choose and speak out of context you actually listen to this dude , that your source of knowledge than the damage to your intellect is too severe
Sorry I couldn't find bhaand moulvis like Tariq Jameel, Tariq Masooq, Mufti Menk, Eng Mirza etc etc. But rather people who actually speak with facts and references from the Quran. And if anyone who has issues can look up the verses and its context to clear their doubts

And not just make up crap from fairytales like Noman Ali
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Nothing Hmm about it, if you speak even some amount of Arabic then you'll understand like rijal when is pronounced Re'jal and not Ri'jaal ( but written the same )can also means like leg/s and the regular rijal can mean men and also be used as people in context rather than saying men and people. Naseet, Nasi can mean forgot, forget so on and so forth. Thats where he is trying to somehow mould nisa into the forgotten or weaker people. Arabic is difficult and strange. Like salah and silah and silat all very different words but very similar sounding and some words derived from them spell and sound also very similar.

Moses bhai saab has a habit of going a bit too far sometimes by stretching out the meanings waaay out there. Ive had "discussions" with him a few times in the comment section of his videos. Yani ke baak ki kaal uthar ne ki had tak
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Nothing Hmm about it, if you speak even some amount of Arabic then you'll understand like rijal when is pronounced Re'jal and not Ri'jaal ( but written the same )can also means like leg/s and the regular rijal can mean men and also be used as people in context rather than saying men and people. Naseet, Nasi can mean forgot, forget so on and so forth. Thats where he is trying to somehow mould nisa into the forgotten or weaker people. Arabic is difficult and strange. Like salah and silah and silat all very different words but very similar sounding and some words derived from them spell and sound also very similar.

Moses bhai saab has a habit of going a bit too far sometimes by stretching out the meanings waaay out there. Ive had "discussions" with him a few times in the comment section of his videos. Yani ke baak ki kaal uthar ne ki had tak
He has given the verses where the Rijal or Nisa does not mean men or women, and will not fit these terms in the verses.
I've watched it a couple of times, and in my opinion, Musa is right. Yes, in contemporary Arabic, it is used for men and women only.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
He has given the verses where the Rijal or Nisa does not mean men or women, and will not fit these terms in the verses.
I've watched it a couple of times, and in my opinion, Musa is right. Yes, in contemporary Arabic, it is used for men and women only.
I just said there is context where rijal can mean people which obviously include women as well, but rijal can never mean women only i.e is not interchangeable. You cannot say rijal when you are only talking about women and you cannot use nisah when talking about men.

Thats my take.
 

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