Ruling on beating one's wife in Islam

Wake up Pak

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Deene' Islam has been reduced to a misogynistic and barbaric religion by the Mullah and their illiterate blind followers.
 

Citizen X

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Who would beat his wife? Is this allowed in Islam?

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 Just by reading the title of the thread I knew it was going to be a video of my favourite comedy bhaand moulvi Assim Al Ghabbi i.e Idiot( opposite of Al hakeem, because Al Hakeem is one of the names/attributes of Allah and calling this mushrik comedian Al Hakeem an insult to that name and attribute )

Is saalay ki sahi lottery laggi hui hai, khoob maal kama raha hai Harami Indonesian naqli saudi ban ke. Just in his latest video he admits he charges $220 for an hour long session and he does 1000s of those sessions every year. And I know there are enough dumbfuck mushriks out there for this to be true.

Yeah salla to Pakistani bhaand moulviyon ke number legaya. Yeh farq hota hai jahil aur educated bhaand mein.
 

jigrot

Minister (2k+ posts)
Islam is a comprehensive religion that offers guidance for every aspect of life—spiritual, moral, social, and personal. While it's true that consequences for wrongdoing are outlined in Islamic teachings, it’s important to remember that the religion equally emphasizes mercy, forgiveness, and the opportunity for redemption. Focusing solely on the punitive aspects without acknowledging the broader context of Islam’s message is not only incomplete but also unfair.

Islam teaches that if you do good, you will be rewarded, and if you do wrong, there are consequences, but these are balanced with the opportunity for repentance and improvement. Selectively highlighting punishment without considering the vast teachings on justice, kindness, and compassion misrepresents the faith.

Discussions that only pick controversial or punitive elements to discredit Islam, particularly when they are used to create controversy or gain profit, are dishonest. A sincere approach to understanding and discussing any religion requires context and balance, rather than focusing on a single aspect for sensationalism. If one is not following Islam in its entirety, it is disingenuous to solely pick out the punitive parts.

Let’s be mindful and respectful when engaging with any belief system. Islam, like all great religions, is meant to guide humanity toward peace, justice, and fulfillment, not to be reduced to controversy
 

Wake up Pak

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When you're 99.5% of your deen comes from garbage books and only 0.5% of the Quran then this happens.
Jab kabhi Islam discuss hota hay tou hum musalman aqal key bajaay jazbat say soochtay hain. Hum khud tehqeeq nahi kartay kay kiya waqai Quran may aysa likha hay? kiya yeah baat logical hay?
 

Citizen X

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Islam is a comprehensive religion that offers guidance for every aspect of life—spiritual, moral, social, and personal. While it's true that consequences for wrongdoing are outlined in Islamic teachings, it’s important to remember that the religion equally emphasizes mercy, forgiveness, and the opportunity for redemption. Focusing solely on the punitive aspects without acknowledging the broader context of Islam’s message is not only incomplete but also unfair.

Islam teaches that if you do good, you will be rewarded, and if you do wrong, there are consequences, but these are balanced with the opportunity for repentance and improvement. Selectively highlighting punishment without considering the vast teachings on justice, kindness, and compassion misrepresents the faith.

Discussions that only pick controversial or punitive elements to discredit Islam, particularly when they are used to create controversy or gain profit, are dishonest. A sincere approach to understanding and discussing any religion requires context and balance, rather than focusing on a single aspect for sensationalism. If one is not following Islam in its entirety, it is disingenuous to solely pick out the punitive parts.

Let’s be mindful and respectful when engaging with any belief system. Islam, like all great religions, is meant to guide humanity toward peace, justice, and fulfillment, not to be reduced to controversy
When they say its ok for a 50yr old to marry a 6 yr old girl, ok to capture women and use them as sex slaves, that entire half of the population should be wrapped up in a shroud and kept under lock and key inside a fortress away from society, that its ok to beat your wife if they don't want to have sex with you i.e basically rape them, so on and so forth. Then my friend controversy will follow it and there is no avoiding it.
 

jigrot

Minister (2k+ posts)
When they say its ok for a 50yr old to marry a 6 yr old girl, ok to capture women and use them as sex slaves, that entire half of the population should be wrapped up in a shroud and kept under lock and key inside a fortress away from society, that its ok to beat your wife if they don't want to have sex with you i.e basically rape them, so on and so forth. Then my friend controversy will follow it and there is no avoiding it.
Not everything that glitters is gold, and similarly, not every mullah or preacher is legitimate. Some individuals may infiltrate communities with the intent of sowing division. In today's world, where information is freely accessible, it is important to critically evaluate the teachings we receive. If a mullah's words do not align with the teachings of the Qur'an and Sunnah, they should be questioned and rejected. The Qur'an and Hadith provide guidance for every aspect of life, and it is essential to seek knowledge from authentic sources that adhere to these principles.
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Islam is a comprehensive religion that offers guidance for every aspect of life—spiritual, moral, social, and personal. While it's true that consequences for wrongdoing are outlined in Islamic teachings, it’s important to remember that the religion equally emphasizes mercy, forgiveness, and the opportunity for redemption. Focusing solely on the punitive aspects without acknowledging the broader context of Islam’s message is not only incomplete but also unfair.

Islam teaches that if you do good, you will be rewarded, and if you do wrong, there are consequences, but these are balanced with the opportunity for repentance and improvement. Selectively highlighting punishment without considering the vast teachings on justice, kindness, and compassion misrepresents the faith.

Discussions that only pick controversial or punitive elements to discredit Islam, particularly when they are used to create controversy or gain profit, are dishonest. A sincere approach to understanding and discussing any religion requires context and balance, rather than focusing on a single aspect for sensationalism. If one is not following Islam in its entirety, it is disingenuous to solely pick out the punitive parts.

Let’s be mindful and respectful when engaging with any belief system. Islam, like all great religions, is meant to guide humanity toward peace, justice, and fulfillment, not to be reduced to controversy
By the way, Islam is not a religion but a way of life. That is why the Quran clearly says that this Book is for mankind, not for Muslims or Mominoon.

“A Book We have sent down to you so that you may bring forth mankind from the darkness into the light...” [14:1]

“.. a guidance for mankind and clear evidence of guidance and discrimination (between wrong)”. [2:185]


39:41
Sahih International: Indeed, We sent down to you the Book for the people in truth. So whoever is guided - it is for [the benefit of] his soul; and whoever goes astray only goes astray to its detriment. And you are not a manager over them.
O Mankind! Worship your Lord, Who created you and those who were before you, that you may ward off evil.2:21
 

Wake up Pak

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Islam, as we know and see it today, is not at all what is envisioned in the Quran.
The Quran is not about empty religious rituals, and Islam is not a religion in the ordinary sense of the word. Islam is a Deen (or a way of life sanctioned by the one God).
 

jigrot

Minister (2k+ posts)
When they say its ok for a 50yr old to marry a 6 yr old girl, ok to capture women and use them as sex slaves, that entire half of the population should be wrapped up in a shroud and kept under lock and key inside a fortress away from society, that its ok to beat your wife if they don't want to have sex with you i.e basically rape them, so on and so forth. Then my friend controversy will follow it and there is no avoiding it.
If a mullah or preacher says something that you do not agree with, or if their interpretation reflects the understanding of one particular sect that others may not accept, it is important not to attack or undermine the religion of Islam itself. Differences in interpretation and opinion have existed throughout Islamic history, and they should be approached with respect and understanding. Islam is a religion of unity, and while disagreements may arise, they should be addressed with wisdom and compassion, rather than creating division or disrespect towards the faith as a whole. We should remember that Islam teaches tolerance and encourages critical thinking, but it also emphasizes the importance of maintaining the dignity and integrity of the faith, regardless of individual differences.
 

NailaFirdous

MPA (400+ posts)
Lots of negative comments here but I don't think anyone has watched the video! He is basically saying that it is not allowed in Islam to beat your wife. I am not a fan of this gentleman but please be fair in your criticism.
 

Wake up Pak

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Lots of negative comments here but I don't think anyone has watched the video! He is basically saying that it is not allowed in Islam to beat your wife. I am not a fan of this gentleman but please be fair in your criticism.
I watched the video, and he clearly states that it is permissible to beat a wife, referencing Quranic verse 4:34. Please watch it from 3:20 onward.
Also, he is making up things about how you were supposed to beat a wife.
 

NailaFirdous

MPA (400+ posts)
I watched the video, and he clearly states that it is permissible to beat a wife, referencing Quranic verse 4:34. Please watch it from 3:20 onward.
Also, he is making up things about how you were supposed to beat a wife.
He has quoted the Quranic verses but also explained that it should be used more as a reprimand than any physical beating.
 

NailaFirdous

MPA (400+ posts)
You are right the traditionalist abuse this verse and that is exactly what my point is that this gentleman explained how the verse should be used,
 

Wake up Pak

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He has quoted the Quranic verses but also explained that it should be used more as a reprimand than any physical beating.
Why did he use lightly in bracket?

Yusuf Ali: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
If a mullah's words do not align with the teachings of the Qur'an and Sunnah, they should be questioned and rejected. The Qur'an and Hadith provide guidance for every aspect of life, and it is essential to seek knowledge from authentic sources that adhere to these principles.
What I've mentioned is all from so called Sahih Hadith. Not from any mullah.
 

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