Saudi Scholar Exposes The False Hadith Culture That Is Corrupting Islam
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Wake up Pak
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I have watched it before and the Saudi government has jailed him because he has different views than traditional Islam.
The mullahs can not digest the dissenting voices when it comes to Islam.
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Thanks, I never left, I visit the forum daily but its the same tired old crap over and over again. So its pointless. I only look forward to raja chawlas posts so I can post my monkey gifs.Welcome back
I have watched it before and the Saudi government has jailed him because he has different views than traditional Islam.
The mullahs can not digest the dissenting voices when it comes to Islam.
As for Mr Maliki from the video, not only has he been jailed but the death penalty is being sought out for his "crimes"
Citizen X
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This is what happens when there is massive comprehension failure. The human version of a 404 error.
Wake up Pak
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Unfortunately, even our young generation is so much indulged in mullah peddled Islam that they have lost the cognitive and rational thinking and has outsourced the religion to the mullahs as they will be their salvation in the hereafter.
Citizen X
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What a strong and brave man. My salute to him.
Citizen X
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Hassan Al Malaki brought up a very poignant point, something I did not come across before nor did I ever think of it myself even though I have read so much hadith. That all these books of hadith have no bab on justice, intellect, honesty or human rights. When the Quran is all about this.
Guess its all part of the brain washing. If you preached these things, people might actually start to think and then in turn not believe in your bull.
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I hope, one day, the masses will realize what they have been taught from childhood and the mullahs and what the truth is, and that day will be the death of the mullah's Islam.
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The greatest setback for Muslims today
is their ignorance of the Quran.
Many can recite it perfectly from memory
and all are fond of using Arabic phrases
however, any useful understanding of the
the message is very poor.
The Quran's
practical wisdom
for universal welfare and progress has
instead been transformed to mantras and
rituals for individual salvation.
Is it then any
wonder that Muslims have mutated from
pioneers to stragglers
and are left behind fractured and
confused in a turmoil of social and
economic wilderness.
The greatest setback for Muslims today
is their ignorance of the Quran.
Many can recite it perfectly from memory
and all are fond of using Arabic phrases
however, any useful understanding of the
the message is very poor.
The Quran's
practical wisdom
for universal welfare and progress has
instead been transformed to mantras and
rituals for individual salvation.
Is it then any
wonder that Muslims have mutated from
pioneers to stragglers
and are left behind fractured and
confused in a turmoil of social and
economic wilderness.
Finally someone makes sense. Islam has been corrupted, contorted and disfigured because of a lack of a system of corroboration of Hadith and pretty much everything else associated with the Prophet. Frankly, this is not the Islam I learn growing up in my household. Everyday some mullah concocts a new Hadith and the illiterate just take it for Gospel truth. Speaking of Gospels there was similar issues in Christianity but back I think in 14 century and I forget the name of the event but he asked all the Christian scholars to assemble they brought cleavers with them and anything that could not be corroborated thru authentic sources they struck out.
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Wake up Pak
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The jews hundreds of years after Moses's
death created Mishnah hadith sayings and
Gemara sunnah actions and uphold them
and the invented laws in them rather
then the Torah revealed God's word
in the city of Nicene 300 years after
the death of Jesus the concept of
trinity was created and is now the
the primary source of a Christian's belief
in defiance of the bible which advocates
the absolute obedience of God alone
the Muslims 150 to 200 years after the
death of Prophet Muhammad created man-made
source of their deen with the Quran
hadith and sunnah falsely attributed to
the prophet Muhammad and in defiance of
the Quran.
Today most Muslims discarded the Quran
in favor of hadith and sunnah.
death created Mishnah hadith sayings and
Gemara sunnah actions and uphold them
and the invented laws in them rather
then the Torah revealed God's word
in the city of Nicene 300 years after
the death of Jesus the concept of
trinity was created and is now the
the primary source of a Christian's belief
in defiance of the bible which advocates
the absolute obedience of God alone
the Muslims 150 to 200 years after the
death of Prophet Muhammad created man-made
source of their deen with the Quran
hadith and sunnah falsely attributed to
the prophet Muhammad and in defiance of
the Quran.
Today most Muslims discarded the Quran
in favor of hadith and sunnah.
You make a good point. Remember, the idea behind reading the Quran is not to just recite Arabic. The Quran itself says and I paraphrase we sent this this book in Arabic so that you can understand. But, I am not Arab the only way I would understand it is if I get an authentic verified Urdu translation. Just like there is a great translation of the Quran in English by Dr. M.A.S Abdel Haleem written in non-archaic English so that people dont get lost in thy and thou? Another great translation of the Quran is by Maulana Muhammad Ali with a great commentary. You would be surprised how wrong these Mullahs are on major issues like Polygamy in Islam. Polygamy in Islam is not allowed carte blanche despite what you read in Surah Nisa
Wake up Pak
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I have read different translations of the Quran, not in its entirety though. Yes, polygamy is not allowed in Islam but, it is what the masses believe in.
Citizen X
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Unfortunately Islam has also gone down the same path Judaism and Christianity went. What is the Bible if not hadith as narrated by Matthew, Mark, John and Luke. And what is modern Christianity if not the hadith of Paul the Apostle. Paul someone who never met or seen Jesus. Born 60 to 70 years after Jesus died. One day all of a sudden he sees Jesus and then starts preaching about Jesus and that he is the son of God.
Today traditional Islam also follows people who never met or even saw the Prophet. What they have written and what they have deduced and said. Brought in laws and practices that were never mentioned in the Quran just like the Mishrah and Gemara.
I've also asked this question which no one seems to even dare to answer that hypothetically what if the Quran did not exist and only the hadith did, how much of a difference would that make in the beliefs and practices of Muslims today? And also vice versa what if only the Quran existed and there were no hadith. How much different would the beliefs and practices of Muslims be today?
Since no one steps up. I'll answer it myself. Scenario A: Very little to almost nothing would change. Scenario B: Almost everything would change.
Which should be an eye opener to the thinking mind that what Islam is today is not based on the Quran, the one and only true word of God but 99% of it based on uncredible and unverifiable word of man.
Wake up Pak
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Sam Gerrans has some really good videos on Islam. The one you posted, makes a lot of sense only if people could listen to it without the preconceived notion.
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