Shahid Nama - 25th August 2011- Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sarmad - "Did the 'Two Nation Theory' become irr

usman710

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Shahid Nama - 25th August 2011- Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sarmad - "Has the 'Two Nation Theory' become irrelevant?"

Pakistani nation has to wake up otherwise Pakistan would be a gone case. You ould not believe how many forces are out there to demolish the week but ideologically strong nation. The day ideology of Pakistan dies, Pakistan will also.

WHEN SOME ONE ATTACKS THE IDEOLOGY OF PAKISTAN, HE ATTACKS THE SACRIFICES OF OUR ANCESTORS.
WILL NOT ALLOW THAT WHETHER SHE/HE is PAKISTANI or NOT.
Choorian pehan k nahe bethay,
BUT FIRST WE HAVE TO FIGHT 2 Number political parties.
Jin k supporters IK pe tanqeed kertay nahe thaktay aur yahan comment kertay moat aatey hay?????????????
TRAITORS MUST BE FLUSHED OUT
NEXT will come MARVI type elements turn!!
 

cifa1

Citizen
جنگ میں ایک حکمت عملی ھوتی ھے پسپائ زید حامد نے اس کے
مطابق اس عورت کو زیادہ بولنے کا موقع دے کر بے نقاب کر دیا ھے
اس صحافتی تنظم کے عہدے داروں کے نام سن کر ھی پتہ چل جاتا ھے
کہ یہ شرابی بدمعاش اور ضمیر فروشوں کا ٹولہ ھے
یہ لوگ پاکستان دشمنی میں پاگل ھو چکے ھیں اورجو بھی پاکستان کے
بارے میں اچھا سوچے یہ لوگ اس کے محالف ھو جاتے ھیں اور بکواس


شروع کر دیتے ھیں
باقی نصرت جاوید بےچارے کا مرض اور ھے بلکہ امراض ھے بلڈ پریشر
بڑھاپا دماغی نااہلی شراب کی قدیمی عادت جس کا اظہار وہ اپنی تحریروں
میں کرتے رہتے ھیں اور شدید قسم کی احساس کمتری اپنی جوانی بےکار گزارنے


کے بعد اب یہ صاحب جس آدمی کو بھی کامیاب ھوتا دیکھتے ھیں تو جلن کا
شکار ھوتے ھیں اور کبھی عمران خاں کبھی زید حامد کو نشانہ بتاتے ھیں
ان لوگوں کا علاج ھے کہ ان کو نظر انداز کیا جاے ویل ڈن زید حامد اور ڈاکٹر شاھد ویل ڈن
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
hmmm... shahid masoood in realizing his shows are getting no viewership.. so a goo dplan to increase it.. create a nice fight... lal topi wala baloongra:D:D:D:D
 

Keepinformed

Siasat.pk - Blogger
and i would say u r pathetic ur comment doesnt even make sense if we accept for an instant that he is agent of isi then may i ask ur respectable highness what isi is?is it an anti pakistan force the answer is big NO isi is the main defence force of pakistan and if and only if we accept ur self created hypothesis that zaid hamid works for isi it is evident that he is a patriot since he is working for the defence force of pakistan .get a life mr.!

You live in the UK and are not Pakistani. You are british. Stay there and be loyal to your Queen...Stop being the defender of Islam before you get deported.
 

Doctorplato

Councller (250+ posts)
This Marvi Sarmad is simply amazing...she simply blasted this non-sense Zaid Hamid left, right and centre. He got compltely punctured! That is why Taliban like Zaid Hamid are against women education! Solute to Marvi Sarmad! What a big liar, and coward ZH proved himself.
 

IK ka sipahi

Voter (50+ posts)
I AM NOT ZH Fan but i strongly support him this this country is based on "2 qoumi nazria" Marvi is such a ....... i am schocked to c that this kind of people living in Pak..... she is a lier and enemy of Pakistan..... and people which are supporting her they are also enemy of Pakistan....... لعنت اللہ علی الکازبین
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
There are only two modes of existence a) peace and b)war.

Islam=peace and anti islam=kufar=war.

So long as muslims remain confused about islam they will never be able to fight off kufar.

This debate proves the point.

Mullaism v secularism is just a topi drama, the real fight is between islam v kufar.

The quran is a unique book but mullaism has covered it up with its own nonsense putting us in a situation that we find ourselves in.

The only way out of this situation is the one told by sir seyyid, iqbal, jinnah, parwez and the like. All are wasting time who oppose ideas of these people directly or indirectly.

Unless we come back to two nation theory and bring back in our school books ideas we do not like thanks to mullahs we have no future.

The question that faces us is, do we want real peace based on real genuine terms for peace or do we want peace that we could never have on basis of mullaism and secular democracy?

How many countries have real peace in them that are based on secular democracy unless they are blood sucking some other weaker country and some people living on others even with the country? This is not peace this is disabling the weak so that one cannot fight back. This is like banks make you sign the loan agreement based on their terms. So learn to debate the terms for secular democracy, they are very dangerous but you only find out once you have lost everything and are fully trapped. It is like a bank comes to take over your property when you cannot pay back their loan. Only then you realise how silly that you signed away your life to them.
 

Keepinformed

Siasat.pk - Blogger
I DON'T FAVOR ZAID HAMID

BUT WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU MEAN BY ISI PAID AGENT.
ISI PAYS PEOPLE TO PROTECT PAKISTAN INTEREST

ANTI-ISI are ANTI-PAKISTAN


ISI has done nothing but divide the nation into small factions of Punjabi, Urdu Speaking, Sindhi, Pushton and then further divided them into Shias and Sunnis. You Islamic fanatics would NEVER learn...
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Shahid Nama - 25th August 2011- Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sarmad - "Has the 'Two Nation Theory' become irrelevant?"

Zaid hamid Zindabad!!

He was clear cut victorious in boxing bout !!

4:1 in favor of Zahil hamid !!


7 Cheers for him and his supporters[hilar][hilar](bigsmile)(bigsmile)(clap)(clap)(clap)

1 More RAW Agent busted !!(yapping)luckily she spoke all her venom against pakistan in a go.........she looked like a hindu woman in saree and used a typical hindu bindi!!

Hindu Zionist will never be able to win us in this 4th war!!we have ruled them for 1000 years and hum unko bahut marenge ......is baar 1971 ,kargil,kashmir sab ka badla lenge.Lal quila par hara jhanda phailayenge !! [hilar][hilar]

Keep your derogatory openions to yourself, if you want to talk decently honestly and with some facts behind talk than go on or go-away.
 
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sherazopel

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
How Indias RAW controls media Detailed Report


This is the age of information, the IT and above all the media, both print and electronic. It is said that after the renaissance of media across the world, the wars are fought and won with the media being on the front-line. Be it US attack on Iraq or be it terror attack in India, the media is immensely used to propagate ones views and perception. The media endeavors are extensively manipulated to change the world opinion in own favor and against the enemy. Almost all the governments have given a free hand to their respective intelligence agencies to manipulate media and fund the media organizations and individuals to gain the required results. No matter if it is the CNN journalists embedded US troops, invading Iraq or venom emitting Indian journalists and TV Anchors targeting Pakistan after the Mumbai carnage, the Intelligence hands are always their to direct them and to fund them.
However, Indian Intelligence Agency Research and Analysis Wing (RAW)has taken the issue more seriously than its contemporary agencies in the region and even across the world. A comprehensive investigation into the matter by the team of investigative journalists of The Daily Mail reveals that in fact RAW moved into the direction of utilizing media factor almost 30 years back. In the mid 80s, when Rajiv Gandhi was the Prime Minister of India, RAW sent a media related proposal to the Prime Ministers Office (PMO) which was straight away approved. According to this proposal, RAW was given a free hand to use as much as required funds to make a solid grip on national and international media. Initially, RAW came up with a long term project through which, RAW started short listing young, potential and ambitious Indian journalists and later started penetrating them to different media organizations across the world. Today, according to rough estimate, 90 percent of the Indian or Indian origin journalists working in different media organizations through out the world, are those having the RAW blessings and one way or the other, promoting Indian perception and delivering to the RAWs requirements.

In the 2nd phase, RAW started funding local media organizations in India and also started buying the services of journalists working in the foreign countries leading media organizations. According to a Japanese journalist, who worked in India for a Japanese news agency for about 3 years, the India-based foreign journalists are very well look after and entertained by RAW officials who develop interaction with these foreign journalists as very warm but mysterious friends. These India-based foreign journalists are at least once a year, are offered a vacation trip to Dubai where their boarding, lodging and even shopping, are all paid off by their friends. According to some reports, RAW is practicing the same with certain Islamabad-based foreign journalists.The Daily Mails investigations reveal that RAW started another project around five years back under which Air Time is purchased on popular English language international television channels and then during that air time, special programs are televised to promote Indias view point with RAWs perspective. India Hour on BBC is one of the examples in this direction.

The Daily Mails investigations further reveal that RAW launched a mega project to control regional journalists and to bring them to a secret RAW platform when it established
South Asian Free Media association (SAFMA)
a few years back
The SAFMA, the darling baby of RAW has so far been focusing on highlighting the issue of Indian occupied Kashmir with RAWs perspective and nothing much or more. The members of SAFMA, whenever asked as to how they manage to generate funds for the highly lavish functions and seminars under its banners since all of them are paid employees of different media organizations of South Asia, remain mum.

Back home, RAW is not only funding individual columnists and intellectuals but is also comprehensively funding a number of newspapers and television channels. RAW not only makes direct payments to a variety of regional and English language newspapers but also arrange advertisement support for these media organization. Many of these newspapers are run as projects of RAW and all assets are owned by the agency itself. Some the newspapers that are getting regular RAW funding and patronage include India News, Aajkal, Al-Hyndelyom, Asia News, Bharat Observer, The Christian Messenger, Daily Excelsior, Daily Roshni, The Daily India, Dakhshan bharat, Deshdoot, The Echo of India, Daily Greater Kashmir, Daily Jaihind, Kashmir Times, Kashmir Observer, Maharashtra Times, Nagalnd Post, Daily Phayul, Rajdhani Times, Daily Saij etc. These newspapers despite getting direct funding from RAW, also have the blessings of getting government advertisements and advertisements of leading Indian Business houses, having extraordinary relations with RAW. Furthermore, all the Indian airliners have strict orders from RAW to purchase these newspapers for on-board circulation. Apart from these newspapers support, RAW has also gained the services of different columnists, reporters and analysts at top media organizations like Times of India, Indian Express, The Hindu and Hindustan Times etc.

Coming towards the Electronic media of India, RAW has made remarkable achievement in diluting media with Intelligence endeavors. It is not only funding different anchors and analysts but RAW has established a huge network in shape of ZEE T.V. Though RAW spends a huge chunk of money to achieve targets by funding 9x News, Aajtak, NDTV 247, Times now, TV9, Time TV etc, yet it runs the most venomous news Channel the Zee TV. Zee Newss offices are considered to be Media Headquarter of RAW. The Investigations of The Daily Mail further reveal that RAW controls a whole paraphernalia of media network including ZEE TV and Films Network, Asian News International (ANI) etc.. The ZEE network retains the pivotal position in this RAW controlled propaganda and misinformation spiral It was actually RAW that has been the master mind behind the establishment of ZEE Television Network.
According to our sources the proposal for establishing a private sector television channel actually under the control of Indian intelligence agency was first presented to the Late Indian Prime Minister Mrs. Indira Gandhi. The proposal could not materialize at that time as Mrs. Gandhi had certain reservations about giving more powers to RAW for she suspected it of being behind her earlier electoral defeat at the hands of another Late Prime Minister of India Mr. Murar ji Desai. However, Indian movie star Amitabh Bachan who was a personal friend of Rajiv Gandhi got the cue. His brother later reportedly siphoned part of the Rs.64 crore kick-backs of the Swedish Bofor guns deal into setting up a private satellite channel by the name of TV Asia.

The ZEE Television Network was formally launched in 1992 with Subhas Chandra as the Chairman and Vasant Parekh as the founding member on its Board of Directors. It was agreed to induct and employ a certain number of RAW operatives in all cadres of the network. RAW personnel were thus recruited amongst the programme producers, anchors, newscasters, and even amongst the marketing and business managers. The arrangement facilitates RAW to send its agents undercover to Pakistan and even other countries. Having a media tag gives these operatives an easy access to cultivate a number of personalities in the target country, which would have been otherwise difficult. The broad outline of the propaganda objectives of ZEE TV defined by RAW were:



  • Undermine the ideological frontiers of Pakistan through oft repeated Indian rhetoric of cultural and social uniformity of South Asian sub-continent;

  • Malign Pakistan by a deliberate negative projection of the events and developments in the country. The aim was to systematically build a poor image of Pakistan may it be in the context of internal political developments, religious or social events, women issues, child labour, brick kiln workers, Ahmedi or Christian minorities, secretarian clashes, Mohajar ethnic movement, foreign policy or bilateral relations with India. Although human rights violations, social, cultural, religious and economic problems exist at a much gigantic proportion in India these were to be downplayed in Indian context;

  • Projection of India as a modern secular and progressive state which is the worlds largest democracy;

  • Propagation of Indias foreign policy objectives and its position on Kashmir;

  • Promotion of Hindu mythology through serials based on mythology as well as soap operas telecast on the network.
ZEE lays special emphasis in cultivating prominent personalities in Pakistan for accomplishing the ideological agenda. Bigwigs in Pakistani entertainment and show biz, poets, writers, eminent sportsmen and politicians are a prime target. The common modus operandi is that Pakistani celebrities are invited as chief guests or special guests to various ZEE programmes. A lot of praise is showered, calling them artists whose talent is not restricted by any boundary, frontier or divide and that the people of the two countries love each other, only the politicians conspire to keep them separated. Overwhelmed by the tremendous show of hospitality the artist either ends up unwillingly endorsing the hosts views or says something that is construed to be negating the Two Nation basis of Pakistans independence.

According to credible information RAW also sponsors organizing of performances, shooting of videos and securing of contracts for Bollywood movies and entertainment agencies for some of these personalities belonging to the Pakistan entertainment, film and music.


The enormous success of ZEE in South Asia and Middle East encouraged its sponsors to target the Asian viewers in Britain and Europe. The prime objective was to disillusion the expatriate Pakistanis and Kashmiris from their ideological basis. Britain being the home of largest Kashmiri refugee community outside Asia has become a cause of concern for the Indian establishment. The growing influence of Kashmiri community in the political circles of UK, their frequent protests over the human rights violations in the Indian held Kashmir and demand for the right of self-determination for Kashmiris is often embarrassing for the Indians.
ZEE UK was therefore launched in 1995. The ZEEs strategists, however, realized that Braitain and Europe was a different ball game. To lure the Pakistani expatriates it was decided to telecast a mix of Indian and Pakistani programmes. It is learnt that a team was sent to Pakistan to negotiate the purchase of PTV programmes for telecast on ZEE UK. ZEE was able to procure from the PTV library many classical dramas, the most recent hit telecasts, musical programs, special occasions telecasts for Eid, Muharam, Ramadan including and other purely Islamic religious programs. These programs were reportedly sold to the ZEE at throw away prices. The PTV establishment of the time credited itself for having sold the programmes with no other clientele. Little did they know the diabolic use that ZEE had planned for these programs. However, PTV authorities maintain that some of its programs were recorded off air by a Lahore based spurious company and sold to ZEE TV. Subsequently PTV obtained a court injunction to stop ZEE from telecast of some of its programs. Nonetheless this gap is now filled by the private productions that have mushroomed in Pakistan over the last few years.

The ZEE UK program managers ran an extra-mile in their endeavors to establish it as a neutral TV of the entire South Asian community in Europe. The propaganda against Pakistan was deliberately kept sublime in the initial year of its launching. However, it continued its policy of reporting negative developments in respect of Pakistan and black outing positive aspects may it be as non political news as winning a cricket match by Pakistan. Nonetheless, ZEEs one sided hype during events such as the Kargil conflict and later during the Mumbai terror attacks gave away any semblance of neutrality that the channels had been portraying. The propaganda blitz unleashed by ZEE since the take over by the BJP appointed RAW administration has exposed the real face of the channel and the Indian governments propaganda campaign; the Central Press Accreditation Committee (PIB), Film Advisory Committee (DFF) and Hindi Advisory Committee.

It is popularly believed in the South Asian community in UK that ZEE-RAW nexus was fully unveiled during the RAW staged hijacking drama of an Indian airliner in December 1999. Throughout the hijacking drama ZEE newscasters and expert panelists many among whom were actually undercover RAW officials, continued to narrate RAW orchestrated script like parrots in an unbelievable frenzy. ZEE was further exposed by completely biased reporting following the RAW staged spate of attacks in India after September11 such as the attack on the sham State Assembly of Indian Occupied Jammu and Kashmir, Indian Parliament, US Consulate Calcutta as well as the 2002 border standoff between Pakistan and India and lately the Mumbai carnage.

RAW prolific media network however received a setback when its sponsored Reminisce Television Network (RTN) could not succeed in UK and Europe. The free to air transmission of RTNs Channel Asia 1 could not get enough advertisements due to over crowding of the market by many Asian Channels. The RTN also had an Urdu Channel ANJUMAN to target Pakistani viewers besides Gujarati, Lashkara (Punjabi), Bengali and other regional language channels. RAW is now concentrating on ZEE and SONY Entertainment Television (SET).

http://eaglesofpakistan.com/2011/08/25/1205/
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Shahid Nama - 25th August 2011- Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sarmad - "Has the 'Two Nation Theory' become irrelevant?"

funny how the hyper-sensitive people are shocked that a WOMAN has stood up to the Lal Topiwala Baloongra and thinking that her dismissing his utter b.s. fascist ideology is somehow BLASPHEMOUS :P

http://www.dawn.com/2011/08/23/humanising-religion.html


also:


iqbals-letter-to-the-times-london-12-october-1931.jpg


The letter by Allama Iqbal to the The Times back October 1931 as Marvi Sirmed refered in the program

from here: http://blog.ale.com.pk/?p=1726


was it oct 1900 so than this is noted by some India pleasing dude to undermine Pakistan and please India.
 

k.a.kiani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Watch this. I strongly believe that all misconceptions and misunderstandings will be erased. I will not say anything more but Quid e Azam said:

"You are only voicing my sentiments and the sentiments of millions of Mussalman. when you say that Pakistan should based and made on pure foundation of social justice and Islamic....Islamic socialism not other isms!"

Proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfO231KOJ9A

Ask this hindu lady who is proud of being hindu to SHUT UP and go from where you belong
 

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