Should Pakistan Join Saudi-led Alliance

Dr ali ahmad

Voter (50+ posts)
Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in his recent meeting with Saudi Arabias Deputy Crown Prince and Defence Minister Muhammad Bin Salman assured him of Pakistan's support if any threat arises to Saudi Arabia's territorial integrity.


According to a statement released from Prime Minister House, the prime minister welcomed the Saudi initiative to establish a coalition to counter terrorism and militancy and informed the deputy crown prince that Pakistan supports all efforts to counter terrorism and extremism.


Saudi Arabia has formed a coalition of 34 mainly Muslim countries - including powers such as Egypt and Turkey - to coordinate a fight against "terrorist organisations".


The alliance includes Jordan, Bahrain, Turkey and the United Arab Emirates, which are conducting airstrikes in Syria as part of a U.S.-led coalition against Islamic State. Others from the Middle East include Tunisia, Lebanon, Libya and Egypt. Pakistan, Bangladesh and Malaysia are also part of the effort, as are a number of African countries such as Sudan, Somalia, Mali and Nigeria.


The coalition is scheduled to aim at pushing back and confronting the terrorists and those who promote their violent ideologies. The alliance is thought would work to target "any terrorist organisation, not just ISIL" in countries including Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt, and Afghanistan.


The opposing camp is led by Russia.The de facto Moscow-Beijing-Tehran alignment -a new geostrategic axis- is based on the common goals of promoting economic self-interest and reducing U.S. influence. Certainly this opponent triangle has been built on the foundations of fairly recent but significant bilateral ties between the two countries and Tehran.Moscow's ties with the Iranian regime "reflect a geopolitical agenda which is at least twenty years old." Russia is engaged in what might be called "strategic opportunism". Similarly, one can trace Beijing's increasing links with Tehran to the first years of the Iran-Iraq war in the early 1980s.For its part, Iran has followed a consistent anti-America and anti-Israel path since its 1979 revolution.


The question arises: should Pakistan join any of these two camps which are at daggers drawn over the issue of Syria?


Islamabad and Riyadh have long been intimate friends and military partners, but Pakistan can ill afford to anger the triangle of Iran, Russia and China.


Keeping in view the current domestic scenario and international state of affairs, Pakistan should remain neutral because joining the proxy war is likely to have both short-and long -term drastic implications for Pakistan.


On domestic front, joining the alliance may trigger sectarian war. It may spark Sunni-Shia conflict in Pakistan. At a time when internal issues are causing irreparable damage to Pakistan, the decision to join an anti-Iran alliance with Saudi Arabia is futile, as it will antagonize Iran, fuel sectarian conflict at home, and distract a military fighting a war on its western front.


Sharif's moral support for the Saudi's is obvious. And he has tilted his country towards the regional Saudi -led Sunnis bloc. But the cost for direct involvement seems to be far greater for Pakistan than for any other coalition member. Pakistan shares a 656- mile -long border with Iran and relations between the two countries have long been rocky. If Iran starts to view Pakistan as an active adversary, it has many opportunities to cause trouble across the border.
Pakistan's border with Iran will become highly permeable and volatile. As a consequence, Pakistan,especially Balochistan will suffer from high instability. In addition, Pak-China Economic Corridor (PCEC) and numerous deals with Russia will get cancelled, which is what India wants to see.
It is known that Russia has recently warned Pakistan not to join the Saudi-led coalition because this would have terrible implications for Pakistan.


The sad fact is that this important issue of joining the alliance was not considered to be of such importance to be discussed in the parliament. Pakistan must stay neutral at this important point of time in order to avoid terrible consequences, both at domestic and international fora.


The reason for such immature decisions is lack of any cogent foreign policy. Pakistan has never been serious in promoting institutions of diplomatic affairs. Pakistan Foreign policy lacks sagacity which does not define any principled stance for the interest of the nation.


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Dr Ali Ahmad
10 January 2016
 
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chaye-wala

MPA (400+ posts)
Pakistan has no option as Nawaz Sharif and Raheel Sharif have once again decided that Pakistan will be a mercenary army For Hire.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
How conveniently you have included China in the nexus to give some weight to your argument ...
 

remykhan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pakistan should not be part of any proxy war. Saudis are our friends and Iranians are our friendly neighbors, we cannot should not attack any Muslim country. If there is a direct attack on Saudis then, Pakistan should intervene militarily.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
!پاکستان افغانستان میں اتحادی افواج کے حملے کے وقت سے سعودی اتحاد میں شامل ہے. سوال یہ ہونا چاہے پاکستان کو سعودی اتحاد سے نکل آنا چاہے
 

P@k1st@n1

Citizen
If saudia would have included Iran every thing should have been fine. But as Iran is not included,its supporters are super active against this coalition.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Only if Pakistan wants to face a future civil war!

We all see things from different perspectives and my opinion on this issue is
by not joining we will increase the probability of civil war rather than joining
If we join hands with Turkey at this moment, we stand good chance of curtailing Irani influence in the region

As soon as Iran is stronger than current position, it will create issues in Pakistan
in the past there was a balancing force of Sipah or Jaish or whatever name they were operating under
no such thing in future as army is busy in marginalizing them ...
 

JuanM67

Banned
Dr Ali, read your commentary about the Saudi situation, and your quote from Aerial Cohen a anti Muslim Jew and that terror organization aka think tank infested with zio nazi jews, plotting wars in the ME,and you being a Pakistanis Muslim, quoting such war criminal filth is extremely disturbing.

Riyadh was fully aware the beheading of respected Saudi Shia, cleric Nimr al-Nimr was a deliberate provocation bound to elicit a rash Iranian response.


The Saudis calculated they could get away with it; after all they employ the best American PR machine petrodollars can buy, and are viscerally defended by the usual gaggle of nasty Jewish US neo-cons.

There will be no war between Saudi and Iran period. Pakistan will make sure of it. Ali, majority of mankind lives in China, Russia, Pakistan, India, far east, and we have a Jew controlled 330.000 million Christian Empire, telling rest of humanity how to live and govern, what's wrong with this picture, Ali?

We should be scared of it? Because it has accumulated nasty weapons, a product of a german Jewish scientist? It used these weapons on Nagasaki, and Hiroshima.. on the civilian population, a fact.

Russian, Chinese, Pakistan Iran alliance or any other alliances, which serves interest of mankind is fine. The Saudi regime is anti Muslim war criminal American weapon buying Muslim killing filth.

I hope in future try not to quote anti Muslim zionist filth.
 
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Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Pakistan should join the Russian camp , for the safer side.

American camp is not reliable .

If Saudia is feeling insecure with America after so long friendship, how could Pakistan be safe with them ???

It is geographic strategic safe also.
 

JuanM67

Banned

Russian, Chinese, Pakistan Iran alliance or any other alliances, which serves interest of mankind is fine. The Saudi regime is anti Muslim war criminal American weapon buying Muslim killing filth.

I hope in future try not to quote anti Muslim zionist filth.
 
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tz00007

Minister (2k+ posts)
may u ur unaware of history or ur blind... what makes u think russians are more trust worthy than americans?or saudis??? western nations may care about mankind but for sure russians dont... go see their history and see how brutal and cunning they are...

joining iranian/russian alliance will not save pakistan.... it will only increase iranian influene in pakistan... iranian have only ONE goal in pakistan.. that is to hand over state power to shias... they are fighting for the same in syria... y else would they go deep in to the fight?? only so that the sunni population of syria dont get power and it remains with shias...

may be ur shia n have ur sympathies with them... but for national interest..its best if pakistan keeps neutral but keeps good terms with saudi/turkey...


Russian, Chinese, Pakistan Iran alliance or any other alliances, which serves interest of mankind is fine. The Saudi regime is anti Muslim war criminal American weapon buying Muslim killing filth.

I hope in future try not to quote anti Muslim zionist filth.
 

Azizi

Banned
Pakistan should join the Russian camp , for the safer side.

American camp is not reliable .

If Saudia is feeling insecure with America after so long friendship, how could Pakistan be safe with them ???

It is geographic strategic safe also.
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Skeptic

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Pakistan should have taken the lead in creating this kind of alliance. All key players Saudia , Turkey & Iran would have endorsed it without hasitation. I think PTI SHOULD TAKE THE LEAD IN IT. Imran should have already taken initiative for regional peace by uniting them. It's never too late he must visit these countries in this time of crisis to create opportunity for peace & development.
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why didnt any islamic country formed alliances for pakistan?

we suffered big time during and after the afghan wars? Where were the alliances to help us out when in fact most of the mess was created and funded by the saudis and iranians.

isis is an evil that came out of what was sowed by the saudis long time ago and now its threatening their own existence so they are crying about it. If we want to play a bigger role in rooting out the menace of isis from the region and the world then yes we should be part of an alliance of the islamic countries but not under the leadership of the saudis but instead we should be the leaders along with countries like turkey, malaysia and indonesia.

Saudis and iranians have created eniugh strife in the region and in our country and we stay out of their stupod conflict whicb for saudis is to protect the house of saud and for iran to prop up the mullahcracy.
 

protek

MPA (400+ posts)
Only if Pakistan wants to face a future civil war!
if Iran dont stop interfaring with others internal matters and this civil war seems to be inevitable then let it be happen. Now its upto pak community(both) in which way they want this country to be going cuz one community god father(iran) is sending his community to be at war with other community so no choice left
* many will dissagree and will dislike or even abuse (i dont care) but this stage is been planed by iran and its all about arrival of Mehdi(AS) and Iran will not stop until bloodshed of muslims. So this war is unavoidable how much hard pakistan try but it will be dragged in.
* Irani mullahaz had fooled their community by brainwashing them that proof of all shia beliefs are with Imam Mehdi AS and when he will come shia will overcome world but imam mehdi AS will come for muslims not particular for shias. So irani mullah make them fool to chase "
Truck batti " just for his lust of ruling.
 
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Gagloosaad

New Member
Pakistan should not join the alliance period.what about 30 years ago when bhtoo and shah Faisal wanted to create same type of alliance they were killed.pakistan please wake up