Should we congratulate nonmuslims on their festivals???

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Should he respond to non-Muslims when they wish him a Happy New Year?

Is it permissible for me to say to non-Muslims And the same to you when they wish me a Happy New Year or say Best Wishes?.

Praise be to Allaah.

It is not permissible to greet or congratulate the kuffaar on the occasion of Christmas, New Year or any of their other holidays, and it is not permissible to respond to them when they greet us on those occasions, because they are not festivals that are prescribed in our religion, and returning their greeting is an affirmation and approval of them. The Muslim should be proud of his religion and its rulings, and he should be keen to call others and convey to them the religion of Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted.

Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about the ruling on greeting the kuffaar on the occasion of Christmas and how we should respond when they greet us on this occasion. Is it permissible to go to the parties that they hold on this occasion?

Is a person sinning if he does any of the things mentioned without intending to, and he only does it to be nice, or because of or shyness or embarrassment or other reasons? Is it permissible to imitate them in that?

He replied:

Greeting the kuffaar on the occasion of Christmas or any of their other religious holidays is haraam according to scholarly consensus, as was stated by Ibn al-Qayyim in his book Ahkaam Ahl al-Dhimmah, where he says:

"Congratulating the kuffaar on the rituals that belong only to them is haraam by consensus, as is congratulating them on their festivals and fasts by saying A happy festival to you or May you enjoy your festival, and so on. If the one who says this has been saved from kufr, it is still forbidden. It is like congratulating someone for prostrating to the cross, or even worse than that. It is as great a sin as congratulating someone for drinking wine, or murdering someone, or having illicit sexual relations, and so on. Many of those who have no respect for their religion fall into this error; they do not realize the offensiveness of their actions. Whoever congratulates a person for his disobedience or bidah or kufr exposes himself to the wrath and anger of Allaah." End quote.

Congratulating the kuffaar on their religious festivals is haraam to the extent described by Ibn al-Qayyim because it implies that one accepts or approves of their rituals of kufr, even if one would not accept those things for oneself. But the Muslim should not accept the rituals of kufr or congratulate anyone else for them, because Allaah does not accept any of that at all, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

"If you disbelieve, then verily, Allaah is not in need of you, He likes not disbelief for His slaves. And if you are grateful (by being believers), He is pleased therewith for you. .
[al-Zumar 39:7]

". . .

This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islaam as your religion . .

[al-Maaidah 5:3]

So congratulating them is forbidden, whether they are ones colleagues at work or otherwise.

If they greet us on the occasion of their festivals, we should not respond, because these are not our festivals, and because they are not festivals which are acceptable to Allaah. These festivals are innovations in their religions, and even those which may have been prescribed formerly have been abrogated by the religion of Islaam, with which Allaah sent Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to the whole of mankind. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

"Whoever seeks a religion other than Islaam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers."

[Aal Imraan 3:85]


It is haraam for a Muslim to accept invitations on such occasions, because this is worse than congratulating them as it implies taking part in their celebrations.

Similarly, Muslims are forbidden to imitate the kuffaar by having parties on such occasions, or exchanging gifts, or giving out sweets or food, or taking time off work, etc., because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whoever imitates a people is one of them." Shaykh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyah said in his book Iqtidaa al-Siraat al-Mustaqeem Mukhaalifat Ashaab al-Jaheem: "Imitating them in some of their festivals implies that one is pleased with their false beliefs and practices, and gives them the hope that they may have the opportunity to humiliate and mislead the weak

End quote from Majmoo Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen, 3/44.

And Allaah knows best.

source: http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/69811/gre ... 0christmas
 
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Murshad Jee

Guest
Re: It is not permissible to greet or congratulate the kuffaar

I live in Ireland and I have Irish friends and working with Irish people as well, We take specially time off for our Special and big days such as Eid, but never get specially time off for their religious days. these days are public holidays and we automatically get day off.

The point is when ever someone says (happy christmas) to me I always reply HAPPY KISSMISS never said the word they use.
hows that sound.................... ;)
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: It is not permissible to greet or congratulate the kuffaar

such bolo bhai,

:) Thankyou, the article you have posted, has quotes from scholars of Islam. They of course have more knowledge than ordinary muslims...
You have cleared all the doubts...Thanks again :)
 

sagaciouscorpion

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: It is not permissible to greet or congratulate the kuffaar

I request you all... to always check the other views before reaching to a conclusion...

Because whenever I am confused about a matter referred by an Alim and look it up or question it... and all that I find is a statement...
???? ??? ?? ?????? ??? ?????? ?????????????

see what I found on this matter...

Rules of Greeting non-Muslims in Islam (Saying Salaam/Replying Salaam) By:Nurideen Lemu An-Nigeri
Published by Suhaib Webb on June 5, 2008 8 Comments
Rules Related to Greeting Non-Muslims in Islam:

Nurideen Lemu An-Nigeri

Preface

Muslims, just like the rest of mankind do not live in isolation. They live in a world of multi-religious and multicultural diversities. With globalization, the world is getting more and more exposed to new cultures, religions, and ideologies etc. If Muslims have to integrate into the so described global village, then good communication is a vital component. Just like it is in all civilizations, cultures and religions, greeting is the very social responsibility at the first point of contact. Consequently, how one greets another person can open the way for better interaction or halt further relationship. This becomes more important where the non-Muslim contemporaries vividly understand the meaning of the Muslims unique way of greeting and feel discriminated against, belittled or disrespected if they are denied the salutations of salaam (Peace). This grudge and rancor if left unattended could be detrimental to peaceful co-existence and subsequently threatening to the progress of Dawah. Therefore, this paper attempts to x-ray the actual facts about the subject from the Quran and Sunnah, and to clarify which opinion may be stronger or more applicable to our contemporary context.

It is hoped that this paper will help Muslims get a truer picture on this matter, and lead to greater respect for the divergence of opinion among Muslim scholars.

INTRODUCTION

Greeting is a moral act, a way of acknowledging presence, showing respect and courtesy. It is recognized as a norm in all cultures and civilizations. It is the first social right at the point of contact and cuts across religious and cultural barriers. It was quite ordinary in history that even opposing armies will engage in some form of mutual acknowledgement before the start of combat.

Islam, as a comprehensive way of life also recognizes this norm as a right, and goes to the extent of specifying how it should be done: Assalamu alaikum meaning peace be upon you or more perfectly: Assalamu alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa barakatuh meaning Peace, Mercy and Blessings of Allah be upon you. In this regard, Allah says in the Quran: And when you are greeted with a greeting, greet (in return) with one which is better than it or (at least) return it (in like manner). Indeed, Allah is ever taking account of all things The greeting Allah is referring to here is generally understood to be Assalamu alaikum. He also described salaam as a greeting from Allah, blessed and good. Likewise the Prophet of Islam (Peace be upon him) was once asked: what aspect of Islam is among the best? He replied Giving food (to the needy) and saying salaam to whom you know and whom you know not. In another instance, he enjoined his followers to spread the greetings of salaam because it increases the love between them. He also said: It is not permissible for a person to desert his fellow brother for more than three days while they continue to meet and turn their backs to each other. And the best of them is the first to say Salaam. He also ruled: Let the young say Salaam to the elder, and the passerby to the seated, and the smaller group to the larger group.

Inevitably, Muslims live among relations, friends and well-wishers from other faiths. The salient question is: does this universal precious greeting of peace extend to them?

In discussing this topic, the rulings on issues having to do with initiating the saying of salaams will be treated separately as a section, and then followed by those related to replying or responding to salaam from non-Muslims.

SECTION A

INITIATING THE SAYING OF SALAAM TO NON-MUSLIMS

Muslim scholars in Islam have three major views concerning the saying of salaam to members of others faiths, such as Christians, Zoroastrians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Animists. One group of scholars prohibits it, while a second group permits it. Yet a third group takes a midway position by saying when conditions call for it or make it necessary, Muslims may initiate the greeting of salaam.

It has been authentically reported from the Prophet (Peace be upon him) that he said:

Do not initiate Salaam with them. But it was said that this injunction was specifically when they were going to Banu Quraizah9. But the question is, is this a general rule applying to all non-Muslim citizens, or only to those who exhibits hostilities to Muslims as did the Banu Quraizah? This is a point of deliberation (among scholars).

?. PROHIBITION OF INITIATING THE SAYING OF SALAAM TO NON-MUSLIMS

A good number of Islamic scholars are of the view that it is prohibited to initiate the greeting of salaam to non-Muslims. They say salaam is meant to be exchanged among Muslims and that the verse of the Quran which spoke of greeting with salaam is referring to Muslim alone. This was the view of Ata bin Rabah They went further to say that salaam is to Muslims as shalom is to Jews. They backed their position with the Hadith reported by Abu Hurairah, where the messenger of Allah (Peace be upon him) said: You must not initiate the (greetings of) salaam with Jews and Christians,. They say, salaam is a greeting of honor and a nonMuslim (kafir) does not deserve to be honored. Ahmad Bin Hanbal commented on the above Hadith: Going by this Hadith is better than any other contrary opinion. Ibn Hajar is of similar opinion, while commenting on the above Hadith, he said: The most credible of all these (views) is what is evident in the above Hadith, although it is specific to the People of the Book. Ibn Katheer also, while commenting on the verse on greeting (Quran 4:86) said: But as to non-Muslim citizens (Alum Dimmit) one should not initiate to them the greetings of salaam Abu Haneefah and Malik Bin Anas detested initiating salaam with non-Muslims.

Proponents of this opinion argue further that the salaam meant for greeting is among the peculiarities of this Ummah of Prophet Muhammad as reported by Anas bin Malik, who said that the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: Indeed, Allah has given my Ummah three things that were not given to any other Ummah before me: saying salaam, and it is the greeting of the people of Jannah (Paradise)

Imam An-Nawawi reconciled between the ahadith that enjoyed greeting and those that prohibit initiating salaams to non Muslims as follows: The ahadith that enjoined spreading the greetings of salaam is a generalization (Aam), from which the people of the book were excluded

This group go further to assert that the salaam that Prophet Ibrahim (Peace be upon him) said to his father in Quran 19:47 was a mere farewell and good will, and it was not meant as a greeting.

From among the contemporary scholars, Ibn Uthaimeen holds a similar opinion. He believed initiating greetings of any sort with non-Muslims is a sort of honor given to them which they dont deserve. He categorically spelt out that it is prohibited (Haraam) to greet them with salaam. He further said: Because it is a humiliation for a Muslim when he starts to honor a non-Muslim. Shaykh Abdul-Azeez Bin Baaz while commenting on the Hadith earlier stated, said: This indicates that we respond to them if they initiate it. It is initiating it that is prohibited Scholars of the Shafii Madhhab uphold the prohibition of initiating salaam to a non-Muslim citizen. However, they permitted initiating with other local greetings only when the need arises, because it is an expression of love. They argued further that Allah the Most High has warned: You will not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day making friendship with those who oppose Allah and His Messenger,.. However, some of the Shafii Madhhab scholars consider it to be merely detestable (Makruh).

II. PERMISIBILITY OF SAYING SALAAM TO NON-MUSLIMS

Another group of scholars consider it permissible to commence the saying of salaam to a non-Muslim. They say this view is in harmony with how Quran represents the Islamic greeting of peace as a universal greeting. They advance their argument on the basis of the following texts:

O you who believe, enter not into houses other than yours without first announcing your presence and invoking peace (saying salaam) upon the folk thereof. That is better for you, that you may be heedful

And servants of (Allah) the Most Gracious are those who walk on the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say, Peace (Salaam)!

Consider his cry: O my Lord! Surely they are a people who do not believe! So turn away from them and say Salaam (Peace) for they shall soon come to know.

Also, And when they hear ill speech, they turn away from it and say, For us are our deeds and for you are your deeds, peace be upon you; we seek not the ignorant

The Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: Greet with Peace those whom you know and those whom you do not know He also informed us that when Allah created Adam, He commanded him Go to that assembly and they were an assembly of seated angels and listen to how they greet you. Indeed, it is your greeting and the greeting of your descendents. He said: Peace be upon you they said: Peace be upon you and Allahs Mercy

The Prophet (Peace be upon him) also said: Spread the greeting of peace

In response to the hadith quoted by the first group, they agree that it relates to the state of hostilities which erupted between the Jews and the Muslims at the time of campaign against Banu Quraizah. They supported this assertion by a Hadith where the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: We are going forth in the morning against a group of Jews, so do not initiate the greeting of Peace with them

More so, a good number of the companions hold the same opinion. Abdullahi bin Masud once said salaam to a non-Muslim. When asked: Are we not warned against initiating salaam with them? He replied: It is a right of companionship. He once wrote a letter to a non-Muslim and said therein, Assalamu alaik Peace be upon you. Abu ad-Darda, Abdullahi bin Abbas, Fudalah bin Ubaid and Ibn Muhairiz were also of the same view. It was equally reported that, Abu Umamah Al-Bahily do used to say salaam to whoever he passed by, Muslim or non-Muslim, and used to say, it is a greeting for the people of our religion, and an assurance of security to our non-Muslim citizens, and a Name among the Names of Allah we spread among ourselves. Notable among the prominent pious predecessors of the second generation was Sufyan bin Uyaynah, who when asked whether a Muslim can salute a non-Muslim with salaam, replied in affirmation and quoted the saying of Allah Allah does not forbid you in respect of those who do not fight you because of your religion and do not expel you from your homes from being righteous and dealing justly towards them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly

Imam Awzaiy said: If you say salaam to them (the non-Muslims), then surely (some) pious people did the same, and if you dont, indeed, (some) pious people did the same. Umar Bin Abdul-Azeez said: I feel no qualm in initiating salaam to them, because of the saying of Allah: So turn away from them and say salaam (Peace), for they shall soon come to know Al-Shaabi is also of the same understanding. He once said to a Jew Peace and Allahs Mercy be upon you (Alaikas-Salam wa Rahmatullah), so it was said to him You told a Jew Warahmatullah? He replied back saying: Isnt he living in Allahs Mercy?

Proponents of this view explained that the rationale behind the prohibition of initiating salaam was that some of the Jews used to greet the Prophet with As-Saamu alaik meaning Death be upon you. However, if they change, and there is peaceful co-existence, nothing stops us of from initiating salaam. This view is equally supported by Imam Qurtubi.

III PERMISIBILITY ON CONDTION

The third category of scholars are those that see salaam to be permissible on necessities such as seeking help from them, companionship, a journey, or some other necessity, or if such non-Muslim are relations. This view tries to reconcile between the first two. They say that the Hadith of prohibition is applicable when conditions do not call for saying salaam. They support this assertion by a Hadith related by Usamah bin Zaid that the Prophet (peace be upon him) passed by a company of people which comprised Muslims, idol worshippers and Jews, and he greeted them with the salutation of peace (salaam). They say the only way to reconcile between the Hadith of prohibition and the above is permissibility but only when necessary. Notable among members of this group are: Ibrahim An-Nakhaiy, Alqamah and Al-Shaby.

It is observable that the Prophet did not state any condition for His action in this hadith. Did He intend the greeting for only the Muslim s in the group, with the non Muslims as collateral beneficiaries? Or did He intend the greeting for all irrespective of their faith? In as much as the hadith exclude any condition, it is safe to assume that the Prophets greeting was directed to everyone in the group, Muslim or non Muslim.

SECTION B

RESPONDING TO SALAAM FROM NON-MUSLIMS

Nearly all the scholars have unanimously agreed that it is compulsory to reply salaams from a non-Muslim just as if he or she were a Muslim. This ruling is based on the verse of the Quran where Allah is says: And when you are greeted with a greeting, greet (in return) with what is better or (at least) return it (in a like manner)

Sufyan At-Thawri reported from Al-Hasan Al-Basari: Initiating the saying of salaam is voluntary, but replying to the greeting of salaam is compulsory. Ibn Katheer said: This statement of Al-Hasan Al-Basari is the position of all scholars unanimously.

From the Madh-hab point of view, Hanafis and Malikis consider responding to salaam from a non-Muslim to be permissible, while scholars from Shafii and Hanbali Madh-habs consider it to be compulsory. However, scholars differ on how the reply should be.

The first category believe that the response to their greeting of salaam should be waalaikum (And upon you too) or Alaikum (let it be upon you) and no more. Their evidence is the popular Hadith of Anas Bin Malik related by Bukhari and Muslim; that the Messenger of Allah said: When the people of the Book offer you salutations, you should say: the same to you (waalaikum). In another tradition it is related that the companions said to the Prophet: The People of the Book offer us salutations (by saying as-Salaamu-alaikum). How should we reciprocate? There upon he said: say: Waalaikum (and upon you too). In the text narrated by Abdullahi bin Umar: Allahs Messenger said: When the Jews greet you, they usually say, As-Saamu alaikum (Death be on you), so you should say (in reply to them), waalaikum (And on you too). In the same vein, Aisha narrated: The Jews used to greet the Prophet by saying, As-Samu Alaika (death be upon you), so I understood what they said, and I said to them, As-Samu alaikum wal-lana (Death and Allahs curse be upon you). The Prophet said, Be gentle and calm, O Aisha, as Allah likes gentleness in all affairs I said, O Allahs Prophet! Did you hear what they said? He said, Didnt you hear me answering them back by saying, Alaikum (the same be upon you).

Ibn Abbas commented on Quran 4:86 thus: Greet (in return) with what is better applies to a believer, but if it is a non-Muslim, reply with what the Messenger of Allah has instructed to be said to them waalaikum (And upon you too) Imam Al-Tabari while commenting on the same verse said And already, the Sunnah has excluded non-Muslims from benefiting from the response that is better by the instruction to respond with Waalaikum Therefore, it is not befitting for anybody to transgress the bounds laid by the messenger of Allah (Peace be upon him) in that regard. They supported this assertion with a Hadith reported by Anas, where he said: We were instructed not to say more than waalaikum (And upon you) in response to the greeting of the People of the Book.

The second category of scholars in this regard believe that in replying the salaam of a non-Muslim, one can go as far as saying Waalaikumus-Salaam (And Peace be upon you) provided one is sure the persons salutation is an actual greeting salaam. They say when Allah was instructing the reply to a greeting, it was a generalized instruction that came in passive form And when you are greeted with a greeting, greet (in return) with one better than it or (at least) return it (in a like manner). He (Allah) did not say And if you were greeted by a Muslim

Ibn Masud said: Even if Pharaoh (Firaun) said good words to me, I would respond to him with similar (good words). Abdullah bin Abbas also said while explaining the verse on greeting (Q4:86) Whoever says salaam to you among the creatures of Allah reply him, even if he is a Zoroastrian (Majus). A group of scholars from the Shafii Madhhab also hold this view

Some of the members of the group believe one can say Waalaikumus-Salam (Peace be upon you also) only, without warahmatullah (And Allahs Mercy) while majority of them believe the response should be according to the greeting. This group went further to interpret the reply to a non-Muslim to mean supplication and good will.

Notable among proponents of this opinion include Shaikh AbdulAziz bin Baaz where he said:

If a non-Muslim greets us, we respond in the same manner that he/she greets us with. So if one (of the non-Muslims) says: As Salaamu Alaikum clearly when greeting us, we respond by saying Alaikum as Salaam, if one says Ahlan wa Sahlan we respond with Ahlan wa Sahlan, and if they say good morning, we respond by saying good morning. We greet them in the same way that they greet us acting on the order of Allah the Mighty and Majestic (Q4:86)

Shaikh Muhammad Bin Salih al-Uthaimeen also share similar view in the statement below:

If a non-Muslim greets a Muslim by saying al-saamu alaykum (Death be upon you), then we should respond by saying wa alaykum (and also upon you). The fact that the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: wa alaykum (And upon you also) indicates that if they were saying as-salaamu alaykum (Peace be upon you), then peace will also be upon them, that is, whatever they say to us, we say to them. Hence some of the scholars said that if a Jew, Christian or other non-Muslim clearly says al-Salaamu alaykum, it is permissible for us to say Alaykum al-Salaam (upon you peace be)

To wind up this segment of the discussion, let us cite the statement of Ibn Qayyim:

If it is confirmed that the non-Muslim citizen (Dhimmi) said salaam alaikum (clearly), the dictates of the principles of Jurisdiction and the rulings/evidence of the Shariah is in line with replying with wa alayka as-salaam (and upon you be peace), because this is more of just and kind. More so, Allah the Most High has said: And when you are greeted with a greeting, greet (in return) with what is better or (at least) return it (in like manner). He thus encourages replying with what is better and has mandated justice. And this in no way contradicts any of the ahadith in this chapter, because, the instruction of replying with wa alaykum (and upon you too) was in consequence of what the Jews deliberately did in their greeting. The Hadith of Aisha (May Allah be pleased with her) pointed to this, while the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, Dont you see me responding to them by saying wa alaykum (And upon you)? Then he instructed: If the people of the book say salaam to you (in greetings), say to them and upon you. Although the entirety of the text is considered, the context and the factors underlying it are also important. So, if the precursor ceased, and the People of the Book say: Salaamun alaykum wa Rahmatullah (Peace and Mercy of Allah be upon you), justice in greeting demands that they should be replied in similar way. Perfection belongs to Allah

CONCLUSION

This paper has attempted to show that the Hadiths specifically excluding the People of the Book from the salutations of Salaam have been understood by a group of scholars to be a generalized injunction. They therefore ruled that it is unlawful to initiate salutations of salaam with non-Muslims such as Jews, Christians, Pagans, and Zoroastrians and others.

Another group considers the related verses of the Quran, several Hadiths and the context surrounding the specific Hadith on prohibition, and viewed it to be permissible to initiate greetings of Salaam with a non-Muslim. This group understands the Hadith on prohibition to be specific to a particular instance and context. In accordance with the view of this group of scholars, therefore, it is only the presence of similar hostile condition that warrants the prohibition of initiating salaams with non Muslims.

It is worth mentioning that some Companions saw the salutations of Salaam to be a right of companionship. This implies that the context may also be important.

However, virtually all scholars seem to have no problem with responding to Salaam from non-Muslims in consideration of the instruction of Allah in Quran 4:86.They only differ on the format of the reply.

Greeting in whatever form is considered by Scholars of Principles of Jurisprudence (Usool al-Fiqh) to be among social transactions (Muamalat) regarding which the basic principle of Jurisprudence governing it is permissibility, except otherwise prohibited by Islamic Law (Sharia).

Sufyan At-Thawri was reported to have said If you see a man doing something over which there is difference of opinion among scholars, and which you believe to be forbidden, you should not forbid him from doing it

He also said: If you say salaam (to the non-Muslims), then surely (some) pious people did the same, and if you dont, indeed, (some) pious people did same.

After affirming that Allah knows best concerning all affairs, it is only befitting to end this discussion with the beautiful greeting in question,

Assalaamu Alaikum Warahmatullaahi Wabarakaatuh.

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contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: It is not permissible to greet or congratulate the kuffaar

1. Supremacist.

2. Discriminatory.

3. Racist.
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: It is not permissible to greet or congratulate the kuffaar

:) sagacious bhai :)

sagaciouscorpion said:
@contra
I hope you are not talking to me.......

nope, not you.
That was for "such bolo's" post.
 

sagaciouscorpion

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: It is not permissible to greet or congratulate the kuffaar

@contra
and let me tell you something else...

These are the main themes we are supposed to follow...or I would prefer to follow rather than sayings of the scholars...

4:86 And when you are greeted with a greeting, greet with one better than it, or return it. Surely Allah ever takes account of all things.

"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action." The last sermon of hte Prophet SAW

Peace be upon you...
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: It is not permissible to greet or congratulate the kuffaar

Bismillah ir Rahman ir Raheem

@contra jee I think it is not possible to understand my posted article without understanding Islam's basic and founding principle of montheism/Tauheed. We believe that you, me and all are creation of The Creator, your and mine Nourisher is same and there is one and only Sustainer (Allah) of this Universe and everything in this Universe. Because Allah is the Creator and Sustainer of the Universe therefore, He (Allah) is the only worthy to be worshipped and associating partner with Allah is the biggest Sin, bigger then any sin (even killing some one or drinking or prostitution etc.).
Thats is why to understand the gravity of the matter I underlined a pragraph of my post which I think needs to be paid attention.

I once again post that paragraph:

Congratulating the kuffaar on the rituals that belong only to them is haraam by consensus, as is congratulating them on their festivals and fasts by saying A happy festival to you or May you enjoy your festival, and so on. If the one who says this has been saved from kufr, it is still forbidden. It is like congratulating someone for prostrating to the cross, or even worse than that. It is as great a sin as congratulating someone for drinking wine, or murdering someone, or having illicit sexual relations, and so on. Many of those who have no respect for their religion fall into this error; they do not realize the offensiveness of their actions. Whoever congratulates a person for his disobedience or bidah or kufr exposes himself to the wrath and anger of Allaah." End quote.

Congratulating the kuffaar on their religious festivals is haraam to the extent described by Ibn al-Qayyim because it implies that one accepts or approves of their rituals of kufr, even if one would not accept those things for oneself. But the Muslim should not accept the rituals of kufr or congratulate anyone else for them, because Allaah does not accept any of that at all, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

"If you disbelieve, then verily, Allaah is not in need of you, He likes not disbelief for His slaves. And if you are grateful (by being believers), He is pleased therewith for you. .
[al-Zumar 39:7]

". . .

This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islaam as your religion . .

[al-Maaidah 5:3]

So congratulating them is forbidden, whether they are ones colleagues at work or otherwise.

@sagaciouscorpion... please dont mix up two different things... my post is regarding Special Greeting to nonmuslims on their religous festivals and your post is regarding general greeting to non muslims like "assalam u alaikum" or "Good morning" etc. I would also request you to read the underlined paragraph first then comment.

I hope you would once again read my post and then comment.
 

A.Ali

Voter (50+ posts)
Re: It is not permissible to greet or congratulate the kuffaar

Brothers,

Scholars' opinions are just their opinions, they are not law. The problem today is that we take these scholars' opinions more sacred than Quran and Hadith.

If you listen to these scolars you will get confused. Our beloved Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), in his last sermon, said that today I have completed the religion, but these scholars, till today, are still inventing new things in the religion.

Aishah, the Mother of the Believers, (may Allah be pleased with her) stated that she once asked the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), O Messenger of Allah! I have two neighbors. To whom shall I send my gifts? He said, To the one whose gate is nearer to you.

It is clear from the above Prophetic Hadith that Muslims are encouraged to not only treat our neighbors kindly, but also to exchange gifts with them. The wording of the Hadith does not indicate whether the one with whom we exchange gifts is a Muslim or not.

(When you are greeted with a greeting, greet in return with what is better than it, or at least return it equally) (An-Nisa 4: 86)

(Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity. It is only as regards those who fought against you on account of religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and helped to drive you out, that Allah forbids you to befriend them. And whosoever will befriend them, then such are the wrong-doers.) (Al-Mumtahinah 60: 8-9)

My friends, I have given you just a few examples. I would urge to all of you to read Quran and Hadith first, understand it, follow it then read what the scholars say, that way you will be able to understand, when they are right and when they are inventing new things in Islam.

In the end let me ask you this , how do you think Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) used to greet his uncle Abu Talib on various occasions? Just ponder over it.
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: It is not permissible to greet or congratulate the kuffaar

A.Ali said:
Brothers,

Scholars' opinions are just their opinions, they are not law. The problem today is that we take these scholars' opinions more sacred than Quran and Hadith.

If you listen to these scolars you will get confused. Our beloved Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), in his last sermon, said that today I have completed the religion, but these scholars, till today, are still inventing new things in the religion.

Aishah, the Mother of the Believers, (may Allah be pleased with her) stated that she once asked the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), O Messenger of Allah! I have two neighbors. To whom shall I send my gifts? He said, To the one whose gate is nearer to you.

It is clear from the above Prophetic Hadith that Muslims are encouraged to not only treat our neighbors kindly, but also to exchange gifts with them. The wording of the Hadith does not indicate whether the one with whom we exchange gifts is a Muslim or not.

(When you are greeted with a greeting, greet in return with what is better than it, or at least return it equally) (An-Nisa 4: 86)

(Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity. It is only as regards those who fought against you on account of religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and helped to drive you out, that Allah forbids you to befriend them. And whosoever will befriend them, then such are the wrong-doers.) (Al-Mumtahinah 60: 8-9)

My friends, I have given you just a few examples. I would urge to all of you to read Quran and Hadith first, understand it, follow it then read what the scholars say, that way you will be able to understand, when they are right and when they are inventing new things in Islam.

In the end let me ask you this , how do you think Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) used to greet his uncle Abu Talib on various occasions? Just ponder over it.

@A.Ali I am fully agreed with you... but still I would say that you have not read my article which is about Special greetings like on the occasions of Christmas or Diwali etc....and instead you are commenting on general greetings like Assalam u Alaikum or Good Morning etc. There is a big difference in both the greetings.

Please read the underlined paragraph first and then I would like to have your comments. Thanks.

Furthermore... I am fully agreed with you that there are different Ulemas/Scholars and we should not take their opinion as sacred scripture...but still we have to get guidance/ilm from them. They are responsible to forward the Ilm they have got... and we need to look everything with care and not to follow them blindly. tWe are just bound to follow Quran and Sunnah and not a particular Madhab/Scholar. This is what I believe in.
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: It is not permissible to greet or congratulate the kuffaar

contra said:
1. Supremacist.

2. Discriminatory.

3. Racist.


-- :mrgreen: Thank you again for defining yourself :D :)
 

Syd

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Mr Sach Bolo, your post has references from Quran-e-Pak but these ayahts are not relevent to your point. Please ONLY use the Quranic referneces that are supporting your point. You are giving a wrong impression here as if you have proved your point from Quran-e-Pak. It is very very unfortunate.
 

shaheedchoudry

Minister (2k+ posts)
Syd said:
Mr Sach Bolo, your post has references from Quran-e-Pak but these ayahts are not relevent to your point. Please ONLY use the Quranic referneces that are supporting your point. You are giving a wrong impression here as if you have proved your point from Quran-e-Pak. It is very very unfortunate.
THANKS, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.
THIS SHAIKH AND SUCH BOLO HAS PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTRA WHO IS MAKING FUN OF US.
HAPPY DEWALI EVERYONE WHO CARES ABOUT THAT.
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
shaheedchoudry said:
Syd said:
Mr Sach Bolo, your post has references from Quran-e-Pak but these ayahts are not relevent to your point. Please ONLY use the Quranic referneces that are supporting your point. You are giving a wrong impression here as if you have proved your point from Quran-e-Pak. It is very very unfortunate.
THANKS, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.
THIS SHAIKH AND SUCH BOLO HAS PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTRA WHO IS MAKING FUN OF US.
HAPPY DEWALI EVERYONE WHO CARES ABOUT THAT.

Bismillah ir Rahman ir Raheem,

@syd and @sheedchoudhry if you think that by greeting to a non muslim on his religous festival you have shown good gesture and this would help you to convey message of Islam then I would say that you desparately need to know the true methodology of Dawah of Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) and also the requirements of Aqeedah e Tauheed.

You said that the Ayah quoted by Sheikh Saleh al Uthaimeen are not relevent to the subject, whereas it is not so. First you would have to read the whole paragraph and then relating the ayahs is very simple. (Of course these ayahs are of general meaning and not specific). I would try to explain the relation of these ayahs to the subject, just read the underlined phrases and the relation to the aayahs would be clear:

Congratulating the kuffaar on their religious festivals is haraam to the extent described by Ibn al-Qayyim because it implies that one accepts or approves of their rituals of kufr, even if one would not accept those things for oneself. But the Muslim should not accept the rituals of kufr or congratulate anyone else for them, because Allaah does not accept any of that at all, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

(Riligous festivals of kuffar are based on their polytheist faith...and normally on this day they do more shirk then on other days. How come a muslim congratulate a kafir on that day knowing that they are doing more shirk then other days. Allah will not accept the shirk and the festivals of kuffaar and they will be part of hell fire. The biggest sin on the earth is Shirk. Allah says in quran (mafhoom) that "ibn e adam mujhey gaali deta hai jub woh kehta hai k Allah ki olaad hai" now these mushriks are abusing Almighty Allah and we are congratulating them on their shirkiya festival) Now you read the following aayaahs.

"If you disbelieve, then verily, Allaah is not in need of you, He likes not disbelief for His slaves. And if you are grateful (by being believers), He is pleased therewith for you. .
[al-Zumar 39:7]

furthermore, we should be proud of Islam and being a muslim. Our religion islam is a complete deen. we dont need to do things which are not from Islam. Can you give me one example from the life of our Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) that he has ever congratulated any kafir/mushrik on his Religous festival?????:

This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islaam as your religion . .

[al-Maaidah 5:3]

So congratulating them is forbidden, whether they are ones colleagues at work or otherwise.

If they greet us on the occasion of their festivals, we should not respond, because these are not our festivals, and because they are not festivals which are acceptable to Allaah. These festivals are innovations in their religions, and even those which may have been prescribed formerly have been abrogated by the religion of Islaam, with which Allaah sent Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to the whole of mankind. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

"Whoever seeks a religion other than Islaam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers."

[Aal Imraan 3:85]

I would also like you both guys to just read the following ahadeeth. I hope these ahadeeth would more help you to correct your view point:

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wamaa alain illal balaagh