The Pre-Islamic Arabs believed in grave worship, intersession & still believed in Allah
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The Pre-Islamic Arabs believed in grave worship, intersession & still believed in Allah ...Part2
Who are Arabs?
Well may be one should learn about Arab and Arab nationality
before one grows a bread and sing in front of the microphone
trying to impose his will.
First ask your self who are the Arabs?
Should Arabs be generalized into one category?
The pure Arabs are those who claim to be descended from
Joktan or Qahtan, whom the present Arabs regard as their
principle founder...
The Arabu l-Mustaribah, the mixed Arabs,
claim to be descended from Ishmael.they boast as much as the
Jews of being reckoned the children of Abraham.
This circumstance will account for the preference with which they
uniformly regard this branch of their pedigree, and for the many
romantic legends they have grafted upon it...
"There is a prevalent notion that the Arabs, both of the south
and north, are descended from Ishmael. Further The first positive
reference to the Arabians extant occurs in an inscription of the Assyrian, Shalmaneser III, who speaks of the capture of a thousand camels from
Gindibu, the Arabian, in 854 BC
Its the same as talking and projecting your views on the the whole population of of Greater India. Yet we all understand that How Diversity of race, religion and lifestyle exist within Greater India ( for a second just forget Pakistan).
My Advice, read some books .... stop the practice of gaining knowledge via Youtube.
Get my point...
Read About Ibrahim Pasha ... and how he corrected Arabs to follow correct version of Islam.
Who are Arabs?
Well may be one should learn about Arab and Arab nationality
before one grows a bread and sing in front of the microphone
trying to impose his will.
First ask your self who are the Arabs?
Should Arabs be generalized into one category?
The pure Arabs are those who claim to be descended from
Joktan or Qahtan, whom the present Arabs regard as their
principle founder...
The Arabu l-Mustaribah, the mixed Arabs,
claim to be descended from Ishmael.they boast as much as the
Jews of being reckoned the children of Abraham.
This circumstance will account for the preference with which they
uniformly regard this branch of their pedigree, and for the many
romantic legends they have grafted upon it...
"There is a prevalent notion that the Arabs, both of the south
and north, are descended from Ishmael. Further The first positive
reference to the Arabians extant occurs in an inscription of the Assyrian, Shalmaneser III, who speaks of the capture of a thousand camels from
Gindibu, the Arabian, in 854 BC
Its the same as talking and projecting your views on the the whole population of of Greater India. Yet we all understand that How Diversity of race, religion and lifestyle exist within Greater India ( for a second just forget Pakistan).
My Advice, read some books .... stop the practice of gaining knowledge via Youtube.
Get my point...
Read About Ibrahim Pasha ... and how he corrected Arabs to follow correct version of Islam.
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Re: The Pre-Islamic Arabs believed in grave worship, intersession & still believed in Allah ...Part2
Re: The Pre-Islamic Arabs believed in grave worship, intersession & still believed in Allah ...Part2
thanks for this post........................
i was thinking the same before opning the post by just looking the title that this person who has nick pakistan1947 seems like a paid agent whose mission is only to promote hatred among muslims..............you got him i have been seeing his comments and threads he spreads only hatred.
thanks for this post........................
i was thinking the same before opning the post by just looking the title that this person who has nick pakistan1947 seems like a paid agent whose mission is only to promote hatred among muslims..............you got him i have been seeing his comments and threads he spreads only hatred.
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Why not talk about current issue and that is killings of mulims by other muslims.
And that is only one sect who is killing in thousands other , except Christian and jews.
Pleas post any thing about it yar Pakistani. Come out of the grave please.
All the people in this forum only ask from Alla Tala.
But what about of these people who r filling the graves.
To whom their kids will ask roti ???
And that is only one sect who is killing in thousands other , except Christian and jews.
Pleas post any thing about it yar Pakistani. Come out of the grave please.
All the people in this forum only ask from Alla Tala.
But what about of these people who r filling the graves.
To whom their kids will ask roti ???
Why is surah Al Fatiha called by this name?
SURAH AL FATIHA=The Divine Proclamation
When a king wanted to make any public announcement or declaration, he used to send out his criers who would let public know what the king wants them to know.
Allah sent his messengers and told them what to announce to mankind in the name of Allah.
1)Proclaim in the name of Allah, the beneficent , the merciful that
2)Sovereignty belongs to Allah the sustainer of the world
3)Who is kind and compassionate
4)The one with sole right to rule in the jurisdiction
If we look at the interpretation of the quran this way then we can see that Allah leaves us in no doubt as to who he is and what right he has to do as he pleases.
This sense is not what mullahs interpretation of the quran gives us because mullahs were brought about to change islam from what it was to what we have today.
The reason they did that was because that is what muslim rulers wanted them to do.
Please look up for meaning of word ILAAH=God=KHUDAA. It means ruler of the universe. Setting up any other ruler in the kingdom of Allah is therefore like creating other gods. Which is SHIRK, the unforgiveable crime in sight of Allah.
By removing sense of sovereignty of Allah from the quran by way of interpretation mullahs could justify for their rulers their right to rule. This broke amongst muslims their brotherhood and they became enemies of each other. To revive brotherhood we must come back to the quran by disregarding what mullahs have been feeding us for last thousand plus years as islam.
This is just first half of the very first surah of the quran.
Basically this is a double declaration ie an agreement between Allah and mankind.
As is clear from the explanation Allah is not a monster to be feared but a father figure who advises mankind like his children as to how they should live in this world to remain safe from all sorts of troubles.
5)Declare/agree/confirm/announce/say, we shall only and only serve you/live by your rule of law or guidance and thereby we shall seek your help.
6)So show us from within your revelation the path that is firmly founded
7The path of those who were blessed/prosperous because they followed it and went not astray therefore incurred not indignation/pain and and suffering.
If we read this surah carefully, it leaves us in no doubt as regard purpose of the quran and this surah tells us how to interpret the quran. It sets out context of the quran.
It tells us the quran is given to mankind for reading and understanding and then doing things so that we are blessed with good life in this world and better hereafter.
SURAH AL FATIHA=The Divine Proclamation
When a king wanted to make any public announcement or declaration, he used to send out his criers who would let public know what the king wants them to know.
Allah sent his messengers and told them what to announce to mankind in the name of Allah.
1)Proclaim in the name of Allah, the beneficent , the merciful that
2)Sovereignty belongs to Allah the sustainer of the world
3)Who is kind and compassionate
4)The one with sole right to rule in the jurisdiction
If we look at the interpretation of the quran this way then we can see that Allah leaves us in no doubt as to who he is and what right he has to do as he pleases.
This sense is not what mullahs interpretation of the quran gives us because mullahs were brought about to change islam from what it was to what we have today.
The reason they did that was because that is what muslim rulers wanted them to do.
Please look up for meaning of word ILAAH=God=KHUDAA. It means ruler of the universe. Setting up any other ruler in the kingdom of Allah is therefore like creating other gods. Which is SHIRK, the unforgiveable crime in sight of Allah.
By removing sense of sovereignty of Allah from the quran by way of interpretation mullahs could justify for their rulers their right to rule. This broke amongst muslims their brotherhood and they became enemies of each other. To revive brotherhood we must come back to the quran by disregarding what mullahs have been feeding us for last thousand plus years as islam.
This is just first half of the very first surah of the quran.
Basically this is a double declaration ie an agreement between Allah and mankind.
As is clear from the explanation Allah is not a monster to be feared but a father figure who advises mankind like his children as to how they should live in this world to remain safe from all sorts of troubles.
5)Declare/agree/confirm/announce/say, we shall only and only serve you/live by your rule of law or guidance and thereby we shall seek your help.
6)So show us from within your revelation the path that is firmly founded
7The path of those who were blessed/prosperous because they followed it and went not astray therefore incurred not indignation/pain and and suffering.
If we read this surah carefully, it leaves us in no doubt as regard purpose of the quran and this surah tells us how to interpret the quran. It sets out context of the quran.
It tells us the quran is given to mankind for reading and understanding and then doing things so that we are blessed with good life in this world and better hereafter.
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Whoever is killing Muslim is responsible for their acts. Islam does not allow killing of a human being:
مِنْ أَجْلِ ذَ*ٰلِكَ كَتَبْنَا عَلَىٰ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ أَنَّهُ مَن قَتَلَ نَفْسًا بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِي الْأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَمَنْ أَحْيَاهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا ۚ وَلَقَدْ جَاءَتْهُمْ رُسُلُنَا بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ ثُمَّ إِنَّ كَثِيرًا مِّنْهُم بَعْدَ ذَ*ٰلِكَ فِي الْأَرْضِ لَمُسْرِفُونَ
Yusuf Ali 32: On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. (Qur’aan 5:32)
اس سبب سے ہم نے بنی اسرائیل پر لکھا کہ جس نے کسی انسان کو خون کے بدلے یا زمین میں فساد پھیلانے کے سوا کسی اور وجہ سے قتل کیا گویا اس نے تمام انسانوں کو قتل کر دیا اورجس نے کسی کو زندگی بخشی اس نے گویا تمام انسانوں کی زندگی بخشی اورہمارے رسولوں ان کے پاس کھلے حکم لا چکے ہیں پھر بھی ان میں سے بہت لوگ زمین میں زیادتیاں کرنے والے ہیں
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