Understanding the Quran: Why Believing in Hadith is Essential

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Believing in Hadith, the sayings and actions of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), is crucial for understanding and applying the teachings of the Quran effectively. Here are compelling reasons supported by Quranic verses and their Hadith contexts:

I will start with Surah Abasa, Can you understand what the Quran means when it says " He frowned" Sura Abasa? Who frowned? The Quran never mentions the name of who frowned and why he frowned.
  1. Surah Abasa (Quran 80:1-4)
    • Quranic Verses: "He frowned and turned away when the blind man came to him. For how do you know? He might purify himself, or be reminded, and the message might benefit him." (Quran 80:1-4)
    • Hadith Context: These verses were revealed when Prophet Muhammad was engaged in discussion with leaders of the Quraysh, neglecting a blind man, Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum, who sought guidance about Islam. The Quran highlights the Prophet's action, but it's the Hadith that explains why this incident occurred, teaching us about the Prophet's priorities and the importance of equitable treatment for all, regardless of social status.
  2. Surah Al-Masad (Surah 111)
    • Quranic Verses: "May the hands of Abu Lahab be ruined, and ruined is he..." (Quran 111:1-4)
    • Hadith Context: This surah condemns Abu Lahab and his wife for their opposition to Islam. The Hadith provides historical context, detailing Abu Lahab's hostility towards the Prophet Muhammad. Understanding this Hadith enriches our understanding of the Quran's condemnation of those who oppose the message of Islam and emphasizes the consequences of their actions.
  3. Surah Al-Ma'idah (Quran 5:38)
    • Quranic Verse: "And [as for] the thief, the male and the female, amputate their hands..." (Quran 5:38)
    • Hadith Context: The Hadith specifies the conditions under which the punishment of amputation applies for theft, ensuring justice and deterrence. It clarifies the implementation of this Quranic command, emphasizing the practical application of Islamic law in a just and fair manner.
Conclusion: Believing in Hadith is not merely complementary to the Quran but essential for a comprehensive understanding of Islam. Without Hadith, we may not fully understand what the Quran is trying to convey. Hadith provides context, explanations, and practical applications that enrich our understanding of Quranic teachings. It ensures that we interpret and apply the Quran's timeless guidance in our lives today based on the Prophet Muhammad's example and teachings.

Therefore, embracing Hadith alongside the Quran is essential for Muslims striving to follow the complete guidance of Islam, ensuring a balanced and informed approach to faith and practice.

It is my understanding those who reject Hadeess simply don't understand the Quran as well. If you ask them what does Quran mean when it says " He frowned" in Sura 80. Who frowned? they will not be able to explain who Allah is talking about unless they read Hadees and understand that this incident in the Quran is about
a Nabina Sahabi, Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum. Most of the Quran is unexplainable without Hadees. For Example, when Hazrat Aisha was wrongly blamed, the Quran came to her defence. Now unless you have read Hadees and understand the story behind it, you won't understand why the Quran told us about her good character.
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
In addition to my last post, I would like to add further strong arguments how understanding the Quran without the Hadith is impossible.
  • Quranic Verse: "By the morning brightness and by the night when it covers with darkness, your Lord has not taken leave of you, [O Muhammad], nor has He detested [you]." (Quran 93:1-3)
  • Hadith Context: This surah, Surah Ad-Duha (The Morning Hours), was revealed after a period known as the "Fatrat al-Wahy" or "Gap in Revelation," during which Prophet Muhammad did not receive any divine revelations for a significant duration. The Prophet felt distress and uncertainty during this time, concerned about the cessation of divine communication.
  • Hadith Explanation: According to Hadith narrations, during this period, the Prophet Muhammad experienced a sense of abandonment and questioned his role as a messenger. However, Allah comforted and reassured him through the revelation of Surah Ad-Duha, affirming that He had not abandoned or displeased with him. The Hadith provides context to understand the emotional and spiritual state of the Prophet during this critical phase of his prophethood.
Now unless you understand the background of this Ayat by Hadith you will not understand what Allah meant by saying " Lord has not taken leave of you".
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Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Believing in Hadith, the sayings and actions of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), is crucial for understanding and applying the teachings of the Quran effectively. Here are compelling reasons supported by Quranic verses and their Hadith contexts:

I will start with Surah Abasa, Can you understand what the Quran means when it says " He frowned" Sura Abasa? Who frowned? The Quran never mentions the name of who frowned and why he frowned.
  1. Surah Abasa (Quran 80:1-4)
    • Quranic Verses: "He frowned and turned away when the blind man came to him. For how do you know? He might purify himself, or be reminded, and the message might benefit him." (Quran 80:1-4)
    • Hadith Context: These verses were revealed when Prophet Muhammad was engaged in discussion with leaders of the Quraysh, neglecting a blind man, Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum, who sought guidance about Islam. The Quran highlights the Prophet's action, but it's the Hadith that explains why this incident occurred, teaching us about the Prophet's priorities and the importance of equitable treatment for all, regardless of social status.
  2. Surah Al-Masad (Surah 111)
    • Quranic Verses: "May the hands of Abu Lahab be ruined, and ruined is he..." (Quran 111:1-4)
    • Hadith Context: This surah condemns Abu Lahab and his wife for their opposition to Islam. The Hadith provides historical context, detailing Abu Lahab's hostility towards the Prophet Muhammad. Understanding this Hadith enriches our understanding of the Quran's condemnation of those who oppose the message of Islam and emphasizes the consequences of their actions.
  3. Surah Al-Ma'idah (Quran 5:38)
    • Quranic Verse: "And [as for] the thief, the male and the female, amputate their hands..." (Quran 5:38)
    • Hadith Context: The Hadith specifies the conditions under which the punishment of amputation applies for theft, ensuring justice and deterrence. It clarifies the implementation of this Quranic command, emphasizing the practical application of Islamic law in a just and fair manner.
Conclusion: Believing in Hadith is not merely complementary to the Quran but essential for a comprehensive understanding of Islam. Without Hadith, we may not fully understand what the Quran is trying to convey. Hadith provides context, explanations, and practical applications that enrich our understanding of Quranic teachings. It ensures that we interpret and apply the Quran's timeless guidance in our lives today based on the Prophet Muhammad's example and teachings.

Therefore, embracing Hadith alongside the Quran is essential for Muslims striving to follow the complete guidance of Islam, ensuring a balanced and informed approach to faith and practice.

It is my understanding those who reject Hadeess simply don't understand the Quran as well. If you ask them what does Quran mean when it says " He frowned" in Sura 80. Who frowned? they will not be able to explain who Allah is talking about unless they read Hadees and understand that this incident in the Quran is about
a Nabina Sahabi, Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum. Most of the Quran is unexplainable without Hadees. For Example, when Hazrat Aisha was wrongly blamed, the Quran came to her defence. Now unless you have read Hadees and understand the story behind it, you won't understand why the Quran told us about her good character.
From one of your own scholars and I think he does a great job of describing it for hadithiyouns like you and once you have actually read hadith you will agree, giving it the most benefit of doubt, best case scenario, a semi autobiographical account of the Prophet's life as well as early Islamic history as reported by men in individual reports. There is no deen or fiqh to be had from them. Zero


What does the Quran say about it self? That indeed it is a fully detailed book, brought down in a clear language so it is easy to understand, remember and ponder.
And what does it say about "explaining it" 75:19 Then upon Us is its clarification

And most of important of all, like you, our thread starter, the people who defend the hadith most vehemently know the least about hadith, its history, how it came into existence and the biggest of all, have read the least amount of hadith.

P.S : Even for holding such light and moderate views had to flee from Pakistan fearing for his life, from ignorant extremist religious patwaris.
 

Raiwind-Destroyer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Qadyani and ahmadies whole belief is based on lies only thing in between is Hadith that's why you see now on these forums hate towards Hadiths
 

Wake up Pak

President (40k+ posts)
Believing in Hadith, the sayings and actions of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), is crucial for understanding and applying the teachings of the Quran effectively. Here are compelling reasons supported by Quranic verses and their Hadith contexts:

I will start with Surah Abasa, Can you understand what the Quran means when it says " He frowned" Sura Abasa? Who frowned? The Quran never mentions the name of who frowned and why he frowned.
  1. Surah Abasa (Quran 80:1-4)
    • Quranic Verses: "He frowned and turned away when the blind man came to him. For how do you know? He might purify himself, or be reminded, and the message might benefit him." (Quran 80:1-4)
    • Hadith Context: These verses were revealed when Prophet Muhammad was engaged in discussion with leaders of the Quraysh, neglecting a blind man, Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum, who sought guidance about Islam. The Quran highlights the Prophet's action, but it's the Hadith that explains why this incident occurred, teaching us about the Prophet's priorities and the importance of equitable treatment for all, regardless of social status.
  2. Surah Al-Masad (Surah 111)
    • Quranic Verses: "May the hands of Abu Lahab be ruined, and ruined is he..." (Quran 111:1-4)
    • Hadith Context: This surah condemns Abu Lahab and his wife for their opposition to Islam. The Hadith provides historical context, detailing Abu Lahab's hostility towards the Prophet Muhammad. Understanding this Hadith enriches our understanding of the Quran's condemnation of those who oppose the message of Islam and emphasizes the consequences of their actions.
  3. Surah Al-Ma'idah (Quran 5:38)
    • Quranic Verse: "And [as for] the thief, the male and the female, amputate their hands..." (Quran 5:38)
    • Hadith Context: The Hadith specifies the conditions under which the punishment of amputation applies for theft, ensuring justice and deterrence. It clarifies the implementation of this Quranic command, emphasizing the practical application of Islamic law in a just and fair manner.
Conclusion: Believing in Hadith is not merely complementary to the Quran but essential for a comprehensive understanding of Islam. Without Hadith, we may not fully understand what the Quran is trying to convey. Hadith provides context, explanations, and practical applications that enrich our understanding of Quranic teachings. It ensures that we interpret and apply the Quran's timeless guidance in our lives today based on the Prophet Muhammad's example and teachings.

Therefore, embracing Hadith alongside the Quran is essential for Muslims striving to follow the complete guidance of Islam, ensuring a balanced and informed approach to faith and practice.

It is my understanding those who reject Hadeess simply don't understand the Quran as well. If you ask them what does Quran mean when it says " He frowned" in Sura 80. Who frowned? they will not be able to explain who Allah is talking about unless they read Hadees and understand that this incident in the Quran is about
a Nabina Sahabi, Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum. Most of the Quran is unexplainable without Hadees. For Example, when Hazrat Aisha was wrongly blamed, the Quran came to her defence. Now unless you have read Hadees and understand the story behind it, you won't understand why the Quran told us about her good character.
Please show me a single verse in the Quran that asks mankind to believe in man-made Ahadith.
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
From one of your own scholars and I think he does a great job of describing it for hadithiyouns like you and once you have actually read hadith you will agree, giving it the most benefit of doubt, best case scenario, a semi autobiographical account of the Prophet's life as well as early Islamic history as reported by men in individual reports. There is no deen or fiqh to be had from them. Zero


What does the Quran say about it self? That indeed it is a fully detailed book, brought down in a clear language so it is easy to understand, remember and ponder.
And what does it say about "explaining it" 75:19 Then upon Us is its clarification

And most of important of all, like you, our thread starter, the people who defend the hadith most vehemently know the least about hadith, its history, how it came into existence and the biggest of all, have read the least amount of hadith.

P.S : Even for holding such light and moderate views had to flee from Pakistan fearing for his life, from ignorant extremist religious patwaris.
Stay on the topic of the thread. . . . .

What does Allah mean when he said, " He frowned "? This is the Sura 80 name. Who frowned in your opinion? without Hadees you have no idea what incident Allah is talking about. so let's see, you believe in the Quran only.
Only a person who believes in Hadith can easily answer these questions.
Can you answer these questions by reading the Quran only
What does the Sura mean "He frowned " Who is He? Allah never mentioned the name. Who forwned? Why did he frown? who did he frown upon?
 

atensari

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یہودی رسول اللہ (منکرین حدیث کے مطابق قرآن مجید ) کو اس طرح پہچانتے تھے جس طرح اپنے بیٹوں کو پھر بھی گمراہ رہے. شیطان نے اللہ کی حکم عدولی کا ملبہ اللہ پر ڈال دیا. حدیث نے کسی کو گمراہ کیا تو وہ گمراہی اس کے اندر کی ہے جس کا الزام حدیث پر لگایا جاتا ہے
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Please show me a single verse in the Quran that asks mankind to believe in man-made Ahadith.
Stay on the topic of the thread. . . . .

What does Allah mean when he said, " He frowned "? This is the Sura 80 name. Who frowned in your opinion? without Hadees you have no idea what incident Allah is talking about. so let's see, you believe in the Quran only.
Only a person who believes in Hadith can easily answer these questions.
Can you answer these questions by reading the Quran only
What does the Sura mean "He frowned " Who is He? Allah never mentioned the name. Who forwned? Why did he frown? who did he frown upon?
 

Wake up Pak

President (40k+ posts)
In addition to my last post, I would like to add further strong arguments how understanding the Quran without the Hadith is impossible.
  • Quranic Verse: "By the morning brightness and by the night when it covers with darkness, your Lord has not taken leave of you, [O Muhammad], nor has He detested [you]." (Quran 93:1-3)
  • Hadith Context: This surah, Surah Ad-Duha (The Morning Hours), was revealed after a period known as the "Fatrat al-Wahy" or "Gap in Revelation," during which Prophet Muhammad did not receive any divine revelations for a significant duration. The Prophet felt distress and uncertainty during this time, concerned about the cessation of divine communication.
  • Hadith Explanation: According to Hadith narrations, during this period, the Prophet Muhammad experienced a sense of abandonment and questioned his role as a messenger. However, Allah comforted and reassured him through the revelation of Surah Ad-Duha, affirming that He had not abandoned or displeased with him. The Hadith provides context to understand the emotional and spiritual state of the Prophet during this critical phase of his prophethood.
Now unless you understand the background of this Ayat by Hadith you will not understand what Allah meant by saying " Lord has not taken leave of you".
"
God told the believers that His book, the Quran is complete, perfect, and fully detailed, see 6:19, 6:38, 6:114, & 12:111. God reminded them that He does not run out of words, and if He so willed He could have given us more than one Quran, if He would have deemed it necessary, see 18:109 and 31:27
 

Wake up Pak

President (40k+ posts)
Stay on the topic of the thread. . . . .

What does Allah mean when he said, " He frowned "? This is the Sura 80 name. Who frowned in your opinion? without Hadees you have no idea what incident Allah is talking about. so let's see, you believe in the Quran only.
Only a person who believes in Hadith can easily answer these questions.
Can you answer these questions by reading the Quran only
What does the Sura mean "He frowned " Who is He? Allah never mentioned the name. Who forwned? Why did he frown? who did he frown upon?
Okay if you want to discuss ahadith then give me a unified method from your ahadith about how to perform Namaz.
 

Citizen X

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Qadyani and ahmadies whole belief is based on lies only thing in between is Hadith that's why you see now on these forums hate towards Hadiths
Do you know qaidianis are full whole hearted believers of all the sunni hadiths? Shias on the other hand reject majority of all sunni hadith. So this statement of yours is 100% wrong.

There is more difference in shia belief and practice with the sunnins then there is with the qaidianis. I had a friend from Mauritius for many years and very "practising" Muslim too, for years I didn't even know he was a Qaidiani. While with my Shia friends doesn't take long to find out they are Shia.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Stay on the topic of the thread
Look whos talking lol
I am staying on topic ( unlike you! ) Thread is about basically about the same old lame claim that you need the hadith to understand the Quran, and I just totally destroyed that false assumption with explanation from one of your most renowned scholars and above all from the Quran itself.
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
God told the believers that His book, the Quran is complete, perfect, and fully detailed, see 6:19, 6:38, 6:114, & 12:111. God reminded them that He does not run out of words, and if He so willed He could have given us more than one Quran, if He would have deemed it necessary, see 18:109 and 31:27
Why are you not answering.

What does the Sura mean "He frowned " Who is He? Allah never mentioned the name. Who forwned? Why did he frown? who did he frown upon?
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Look whos talking lol
I am staying on topic ( unlike you! ) Thread is about basically about the same old lame claim that you need the hadith to understand the Quran, and I just totally destroyed that false assumption with explanation from one of your most renowned scholars and above all from the Quran itself.
Why can't you answer what Quran Sura 80 is about. I did not use the Hadith word at all. I am only using Quran. No mention of Hadith.

What does the Sura mean "He frowned " Who is He? Allah never mentioned the name. Who forwned? Why did he frown? who did he frown upon?
 

Wake up Pak

President (40k+ posts)
Why are you not answering.

What does the Sura mean "He frowned " Who is He? Allah never mentioned the name. Who forwned? Why did he frown? who did he frown upon?
When I have the answer I will give it to you. meanwhile, why don't you give me a unified method from your ahadith about how to perform Namaz?
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
if you want to discuss ahadith
That is where you are wrong, these people don't want to discuss anything, as always just want to shove their POV down your throat, they have no interest in what you have to say or your POV, they just want to prove you wrong.
 

Wake up Pak

President (40k+ posts)
  • Quranic Verses: "He frowned and turned away when the blind man came to him. For how do you know? He might purify himself, or be reminded, and the message might benefit him." (Quran 80:1-4)
  • Hadith Context: These verses were revealed when Prophet Muhammad was engaged in discussion with leaders of the Quraysh, neglecting a blind man, Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum, who sought guidance about Islam. The Quran highlights the Prophet's action, but it's the Hadith that explains why this incident occurred, teaching us about the Prophet's priorities and the importance of equitable treatment for all, regardless of social status.
And how did this hadith come to this conclusion?
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Ladies and Gentlemen.
Have you seen these two buddies who believe Hadith shouldn't be believed on have no answer to my question.
What does the Sura 80 mean "He frowned " Who is He? Allah never mentioned the name. Who forwned? Why did he frown? who did he frown upon?

This is only one example, there are many ayats in Quran which can not be explained without hadees.
These two can never answer to my question without picking a Hadees book.
They can't explain why Quran came in the defense of Hazrat Aisha.
They can't explain why Allah told prophet Muhammad that he has not forgotten him.
I have made my point. Let them beat about the bush.
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
And how did this hadith come to this conclusion?
  • Hadith Context: These verses were revealed when Prophet Muhammad was engaged in discussion with leaders of the Quraysh, neglecting a blind man, Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum, who sought guidance about Islam. The Quran highlights the Prophet's action, but it's the Hadith that explains why this incident occurred, teaching us about the Prophet's priorities and the importance of equitable treatment for all, regardless of social status.
After the revelation of sura Abas prophet Muhammad used to give dates to this Nabina Sahabi and used to remember the incident and used to say that because of this incident Allah mujh say naraz howa