When Hamza Ali Abbasi went to meet Imran Khan. This is what he writes "By Allah in whose hands my li

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Re: Iмrαɴ Kнαɴ Todαy (27тн Aυɢυѕт 2015) @ Bαɴι Gαlα

jis tarah Shadi ki aik logic hai..

usi trh topi ki bi koi logic honi...

ab mujy smj sirf itna nhi aata ky mera imaan topi pehen ky mukamal ho ga.. or arbi dress hamary lug qoun nhi pehenty... apny app ko mukamal arbi roop mien dhal lien to phir zyada sawab hona... ham sab phir arbi hee bolien... koi dosri zuban qoun???



uff mien is topi mien parh qoun rha houn... sorry....

Pher tu Darhi (Beard) ki be kuee logic nahi. Clean Shaved looks better than in Darhi then?

Pher tu Nemaz ki be kuee logic nahi because on can pray Allah in a lot different ways.

U should know the meaning of Sunna. Sunnah are all those acts which are performed by Prophet (PBUH) and Allah has ordered us to follow Prophet (PBUH) (without been going into any logic).

If you don't wana follow Sunnah it is your choice but don't argue foolishly to search 'logic' in covering head in Nemaz.
 
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Res1Pect

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Iмrαɴ Kнαɴ Todαy (27тн Aυɢυѕт 2015) @ Bαɴι Gαlα

yhi to fitna hai ky Aik kehta hai Nabi ny aisa kia, Dosra kehta hai nhi aisa kia...

hum hud fitna pedda karty hain... Topi yah Amama Farz to nhi hain nah mery bhi...

kya yeh yeh hamara Musalman hona sabat karty hain.....

dosry mazhab wally bi pehenty hain... hai ky nhi????

Talk sense brother and read again what I wrote. I never said you can't pray without a 'topi'. I only said that it is established sunnah and if someone follows it, then he would get more 'ajr' for that.

Secondly, it's highly absurd to say that 'fitna' is that one says it's like this and the other says it's like that. This difference of 'opinion' existed even in 'Sahaba' the companions of the Prophet pbuh but they never called each other 'kafirs, non-believers and munafiqs' if someone had another view. These days people don't have that right attitude. They say 'We are right and all others are wrong'. This is Fitna.

However, it doesn't mean that you should start twisting the islamic facts. Growing beard is an established and proved Sunnah of our Prophet pbuh. If a person doesn't grow beard and shaves it, then he must feel ashamed of this act in his heart and should have intention that insha Allah one day I'll grow my beard. On the other hand, these days when people don't grow beard, they get set to prove that growing beard is not something important, and it's ok even if they shave it.

Now, this is FITNA. Having weakness in 'amaal' is human and one should seek forgiveness from Allah for his weaknesses, in stead of trying to prove that his 'wrong deeds' are perfectly OK.

Allah Knows the Best.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Re: Iмrαɴ Kнαɴ Todαy (27тн Aυɢυѕт 2015) @ Bαɴι Gαlα

is trh to arbi dress bi sunnat hui na....

There are many things which are not Sunnah but they are Halal/ allowed to do it. Like use of Currency, use of Internet, TV, Mobile etc for positive things are allowed.

Man there is a word ued called Ijma. If Ummat do Ijma on something then it is allowed. The dressing also comes under Ijma as every nation can use their own codes of dress but adopting full decency and the principles of Islam.
 

HussainM

MPA (400+ posts)
Jo yahan yeh likh rahe hain ke Khan show off ker raha hai wagera wagera woh actually bohat bara gunnah ker rahe hain...Yeh mamla bande aur khuda ke beech mein haj bhai hum kaun hote hain oske baare me kuch kehne waale...Baqi Allah sab ko hidayat de aur namaz perhne ki taufeeq ata farmaye.
 

Ali Farooq

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Iмrαɴ Kнαɴ Todαy (27тн Aυɢυѕт 2015) @ Bαɴι Gαlα

app ny meri post nhi parhi... warna in jahilon ki baat ka jawab na detty..... (serious)

جناب ہم کون ہوتے ہیں عمران کو جج کرنے والے۔ یہ اس کا اور اللہ کا معاملہ ہے۔ میں تو بس اپنی ذاتی رائے کا اظہار کر رہا ہوں کے عمران کو چاہٍئے کے اسی تصاویر کسی کو نہ کھینچنے دے۔ اور دوسرا یہ کہ کسی کو جواب دینے میں کیا حرج ہے۔ ہاں اگر بندہ مقدس یا فاروق ۲۲ جیسا ہو تو پھر واقعی آپ کی بات سے متفق ہوں کہ ان کی بات کا جواب دینا ضروری نہیں۔ وہ دونوں قصور واقعے میں ملوث ن لیگی ایم پی اے اور پنجاب پولیس کا دفاع کرتے رہے۔ تب سے احساس ہوا کہ جاہل کسے کہتے ہیں۔
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Iмrαɴ Kнαɴ Todαy (27тн Aυɢυѕт 2015) @ Bαɴι Gαlα

Shukar hai, shukar hai, Namaz wala photo session to hoa.

I was really desperate to see this.

Thank you Machar bhai, thank you very much
.


Funny thing


You actually are desperate to see such things................


SO that you can espouse your anger and disgust at these "photo sessions"

which you have no obligation to watch but do
and about which you have nothing to say
except how wrong you find it



PLEASE in future resist the urge to watch what you do not wish to and to comment when you do not have to


NO ONE will be convinced to stop voting for IK because of such "photo sessions"
but MANY will be persuaded to vote FOR him because of it
and NOT ONE WORD you write against it, will persuade a SINGLE person to change their mind

So why behave like a moron by contradicting yourself ?
 

دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Iмrαɴ Kнαɴ Todαy (27тн Aυɢυѕт 2015) @ Bαɴι Gαlα

...but MANY will be persuaded to vote FOR him because of it...
Yep, that was my intention to point out how a playboy uses show-off skills to seduce people into his trap. You just validated my point, i.e. if you like someone because of their Namaz-shows, then you're really shallow.



...SO that you can espouse your anger and disgust at these "photo sessions" which you have no obligation to watch but do...

So why behave like a moron by contradicting yourself ?
I ask you the same question, Moron Sir;

I have my valueless opinions here which you have no obligation to read, but do, so that you can espouse your anger and disgust on these "valueless opinions". So why behave like a moron by contradicting yourself?
 

دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)
Jo yahan yeh likh rahe hain ke Khan show off ker raha hai wagera wagera woh actually bohat bara gunnah ker rahe hain...Yeh mamla bande aur khuda ke beech mein haj bhai hum kaun hote hain oske baare me kuch kehne waale...Baqi Allah sab ko hidayat de aur namaz perhne ki taufeeq ata farmaye.
If Namaz is between Allah and man, why is IK getting their photosessions posted on public forums??! Are you saying that Imran's security is so out of control that he doesn't even know when his pictures are taken at his own home, when he's near alone and usually offering Namaz??

Aur to aur, ab doosray party leaders bhi is sunnat-e-Imrani per amal paira hain. Few days ago, there was a nafli photosession of Jahangir Tareen after the news of his tribunal win.
 

tz00007

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Iмrαɴ Kнαɴ Todαy (27тн Aυɢυѕт 2015) @ Bαɴι Gαlα

lolz how easliy u judge others... as if u know what is in my hearth... typical stupid mullah mentality


the 2nd thing... by the same logic..wearing long arabic dress is also sunnah and iwll increase ur sawab...so y dont u wear that????

and if someone prays without covering head u call them newly invented religion???? u moron.. these are small things and does not affect the religion... ur those stupid mullahs who calls other kafir if their paanchey goes below their ankels... so may ALlah guide u and dumb idiots like u...


Dear brother, it's a very dangerous approach to believe that 'what you think is religion'.

You think that the Prophet pbuh never wore 'topi' and 'then' you believe it's right what you think.

Please ask an authentic scholar and stop following what you 'think' is right.

It's proved by many 'authentic ahadees' that the Prophet pbuh wore 'amamah' (pagree) and most often 'there was a topi' under 'amamah'. Only rarely he wore 'imamah' without a 'topi' under it.

Secondly, it's proved whether by 'only amamah' or 'by amamah and topi under it', the Prophet pbuh always kept his head 'covered'.

Only during Umrah, Hajj and another occasion, he prayed 'prayers' without covering his head.

These days, there is a 'FITNA' spread among people due to which some people ask others to 'pray' namaz without covering your head. This is undoubtedly against the 'established sunnah of our Prophet pbuh of covering his head'. Though, it is permissible to pray without covering your head if you don't have anything to cover it. However, following a sunnah definitely increases the value of every good deed you do.

I know some 'Arab-Returned' self-proclaimed scholars would now start spreading their 'newly-invented' newly-learned' religion around.

I request all my sisters and brothers to ask authentic and pious scholars about all the basic things which are obligatory upon us and don't just follow your 'own desires' as religion.

May Allah guide us to the right path and keep us on it till we die. Aameen
 

tz00007

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Iмrαɴ Kнαɴ Todαy (27тн Aυɢυѕт 2015) @ Bαɴι Gαlα

in europe most ppl dont give these small issues any big importance...its only in pakistan that u can become a kafir if u dnt wear topi or if ur paanchey are below ur ankels.. wearing long arab dress is also sunnat, so y dnt we start wearing that too... yea covering head might be sunnah... but making it compulsory for prayers is wrong..


Did I say Toopi is a Sunnat?

I had used the word 'Sar Danpna' not Toopi whether it is with Topi or Pagri etc. I know Ahle Hadith people don't bother about it but it is Sunnat to covere the head.
 

ualis

Minister (2k+ posts)
If you want to follow sunnah then follow Quran. If wearing topi is sunnah then rest in peace our deen. Grow up you narrow minded mullah followers and learn the real deen. So the topi followers should also follow other sunnahs to travel on camels use miswak use long dress keep beard and so on and on and on.
 

Ali raza babar

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Iмrαɴ Kнαɴ Todαy (27тн Aυɢυѕт 2015) @ Bαɴι Gαlα

Waisay Machar Bhai! Khan Sahib ku kahay kay aik tu Sar pay Toopy pehna karay. Sar Danpna Sunnat hay.

Doosra bajayee 2,3... logo ka Akailay nemaz pernay kay, 2 ya 3 ya 4 bandu ki Jamat q nahi banatay? Nemaz Jamat hi kay saath Farz hay.

2 bandu ki Jamat be ban jaty hay.

Shukria.
Usay Bara Acha pata hai Deen kia hai ,

He is one of the Most Enlightened Persons about the DEEN in Pakistan.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Re: Iмrαɴ Kнαɴ Todαy (27тн Aυɢυѕт 2015) @ Bαɴι Gαlα

in europe most ppl dont give these small issues any big importance...its only in pakistan that u can become a kafir if u dnt wear topi or if ur paanchey are below ur ankels.. wearing long arab dress is also sunnat, so y dnt we start wearing that too... yea covering head might be sunnah... but making it compulsory for prayers is wrong..

No body give svirdict of Kufr on these things. It is just your thinking.

And covering head is a permanent Sunnah not just 'may be'.

In Europe many peopls belong to Ahle Hadith who don't listen to their Scholars or Imam. You would not see any single Imam of Pray without Covering his head but it is the common people don't do it. I pray in a Ahle Hadith Mosque and Imam is wearing Topi but the common people don't bother.

Nemaz is accepted even without Darhi (Beard) but Muslim keep it. Why? Nemaz has only 7 Farz inside Nemaz and many Sunnah like praise in Ruku or Sajda etc. So in your think we even shouldn't do it because these are noy Farz or Nemaz is accepted without it? I can give you 100s of examples of Sunnah which we do in Pray or without pray....

About Dress: There is a word Ijma in Islam that Ummat can agree on a matter and adopt it. Dress also comes under Ijma that the local people can use their own Dress. In Islam, there is No specific dress code just principles to have decency in it.

We use internet, mobile, TV etc. Now you might ask why we use it as Prophet didn't use it? This is called Ijma which the Ummat agreed upon hence these are Halal if used positively.

And no body is making it compulsory for Nemaz but it is a permanent Sunnah like Beard. And Quran clearly says that 'whoever obeyed Rasulullah surely he has obeyed Allah' It is clear from this Ayat that obeying Prophet in every of his Sunnah is actually the obeying Allah.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Re: Iмrαɴ Kнαɴ Todαy (27тн Aυɢυѕт 2015) @ Bαɴι Gαlα

Usay Bara Acha pata hai Deen kia hai ,

He is one of the Most Enlightened Persons about the DEEN in Pakistan.

Deen ka Pata tu Sab ku huta hay lakin Amal nahi kartay.

Kia kisi ku yee Nahi pata kay Alcohal haram hay laikin pher b Peetay hain?

Knowing and Practing are two different things.
 

Ali raza babar

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Iмrαɴ Kнαɴ Todαy (27тн Aυɢυѕт 2015) @ Bαɴι Gαlα

Deen ka Pata tu Sab ku huta hay lakin Amal nahi kartay.

Kia kisi ku yee Nahi pata kay Alcohal haram hay laikin pher b Peetay hain?

Knowing and Practing are two different things.

Yar bus ker.

Mein un ko bhi janta hon jo deen kay thaikaydaar banay phirtay hein aur kitnay practicing hein , yeh banda Practicing hai , Truly ,aur Imaan rakhta hai Allah per ,

Enough for me.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Re: Iмrαɴ Kнαɴ Todαy (27тн Aυɢυѕт 2015) @ Bαɴι Gαlα

Yar bus ker.

Mein un ko bhi janta hon jo deen kay thaikaydaar banay phirtay hein aur kitnay practicing hein , yeh banda Practicing hai , Truly ,aur Imaan rakhta hai Allah per ,

Enough for me.

Aur tum be bus kar. Jab argument nahi hutay tu pher baat na kia kar.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
If you want to follow sunnah then follow Quran. If wearing topi is sunnah then rest in peace our deen. Grow up you narrow minded mullah followers and learn the real deen. So the topi followers should also follow other sunnahs to travel on camels use miswak use long dress keep beard and so on and on and on.

You should know the ABC of Deen man. Covering head is the Sunnah of Prophet (PBUH) not of Mullah. But you Mullah's allergic people can't obey the Sunnah so easily blame Mullah. Forget about Mullah read Hadith Books by yourself.

Prophet didn't use Mobile, internet or TV etc but why we use them? Had any body say that these are Haram because Prophet didn't use it? No. To find out why, you need to learn bit Deen instead of advising us.
 

bisaat

Banned
imran niazi namazi at day, playboy at night

this mixture of western culture and Islamic conservatism existing simultaneously in PTI baffles me :P

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