Whether music should be the part of this site?

[Malik495]

Wether music should be the part of this site or not?..Your opinion....
To all respected members of this forum..
As this site of ours is getting lots of membership only because of its unique name siasat.pk and all users visit this site as a very serious discussion forum as compare to other forums..
I have deeply concerens about some music posts in continuous manners from last few days..There are so many tragic incidents are taking place with muslims in Pakistan and around the world and also being discussed in this forum..and suddenly someone posts music (just for change)..Isnt it a joke with all those our brothers and sisters who are suffering with ongoing circumstances ?...Our serious members do not want to make this serious site a music hub or entertainment site..
For music and other kind of stuff there are so many other sites available and if anyone wants to share or listen music then they shouldnt disturb this serious forum..and i wont quote Quranic Verses and Ahadees about music because every user may have different opinion (if he is not a muslim)..

Dont forget.. your vote can make this site a Unique and best plateform for discussion..

Poll: Should Admin allow music on this site?

1-Yes

2-No

 

[Maalick]

Re: Wether music should be the part of this site?

NO

 

[contra]

Re: Wether music should be the part of this site?

YES...!!!

You can go directly to Siasi Discussion or Siasi Videos if you don't want to see such videos.
Normally such videos are posted in Random Videos section.

 

[Murshad Jee]

Re: Wether music should be the part of this site?

YES...!!!

 

[leboheme2005]

Re: Wether music should be the part of this site?

Yes, music should be allowed.

1) You can always go to the relevant sections (as already suggested)
2) I hope that this forum though serious should most of all remain open, free, and non-coercive.

 

[sangeen]

Re: Wether music should be the part of this site?

yar es forum ko bohat saare mirasi bhi visit karte haen.... kion on ke zoq ko thees pohanchane ki koshish kar rahe ho miaan.... aap ka mutalba esa hi hae jesa ke Star TV ki makkar aur make-up zada londion ko dupatta pehnana.... [hilar] [hilar] [hilar]

my vote is a definite NO

 

[pirsab101]

Re: Wether music should be the part of this site?

My vote is NO !
This is not a music site.Let this site stick to it's name Siasat.pk

 

[Knowledge Seeker]

Re: Wether music should be the part of this site?

..and i wont quote Quranic Verses and Ahadees about music because every user may have different opinion (if he is not a muslim)..

Brother, your above statement is very rigid indeed.

You should understand that there are two different Scholastic opinions among Muslims about the issue of music. Everyone can practice according to his opinion.

If video is uploaded in Random video section, there shouldn't be any problem for our members who are only here for Siasi discussion as long as the lyrics of video are not vulgar.

 

[abduttawwab]

Re: Wether music should be the part of this site?


A big NO

and why NO, here is the answer:

Allah says in Quran:
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And help one another in goodness and piety, and do not help one another in sin and aggression; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah; surely Allah is severe in requiting (evil).

Rasoolullah (peace be upon him) said:
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"Whoever among you sees wrongdoing, let him rectify it with his hand. If he is unable, then with his tongue. And if he is incapable of that then with his heart and that is the weakest level of faith."
(Sahih Muslim)

 

[Malik495]

Re: Wether music should be the part of this site?

A big NO

and why NO, here is the answer:

Allah says in Quran:
????????????? ????? ???????? ????????????? ????? ??????????? ????? ????????? ?????????????? ?????????? ??????? ????? ??????? ??????? ??????????
And help one another in goodness and piety, and do not help one another in sin and aggression; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah; surely Allah is severe in requiting (evil).

Rasoolullah (peace be upon him) said:
???? ????? ???????? ????????? ??????????????? ???????? ?????? ???? ?????????? ????????????? ?????? ???? ?????????? ???????????? ???????? ???????? ???????????
"Whoever among you sees wrongdoing, let him rectify it with his hand. If he is unable, then with his tongue. And if he is incapable of that then with his heart and that is the weakest level of faith."
(Sahih Muslim)

Jazakallah Brother.. You have clarified with such an evidence which cannot be objected and criticized.. and one who will criticize this like few members of this site then what can we say either to pray for them.. May Allah give them Hidaya.. Aameen

 

[abduttawwab]

Re: Wether music should be the part of this site?

A big NO

and why NO, here is the answer:

Allah says in Quran:
????????????? ????? ???????? ????????????? ????? ??????????? ????? ????????? ?????????????? ?????????? ??????? ????? ??????? ??????? ??????????
And help one another in goodness and piety, and do not help one another in sin and aggression; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah; surely Allah is severe in requiting (evil).

Rasoolullah (peace be upon him) said:
???? ????? ???????? ????????? ??????????????? ???????? ?????? ???? ?????????? ????????????? ?????? ???? ?????????? ???????????? ???????? ???????? ???????????
"Whoever among you sees wrongdoing, let him rectify it with his hand. If he is unable, then with his tongue. And if he is incapable of that then with his heart and that is the weakest level of faith."
(Sahih Muslim)

Jazakallah Brother.. You have clarified with such an evidence which cannot be objected and criticized.. and one who will criticize this like few members of this site then what can we say either to pray for them.. May Allah give them Hidaya.. Aameen

Sum aameen

 

[Knowledge Seeker]

Re: Wether music should be the part of this site?

As I mentioned earlier in this post that One opinion of Islamic Scholars is about the permissibility of music as long as Lyric (Kalam) is not ill-mannered.

Following Video clips of TV program will be helpful to educate ourselves regarding second approach:

 

[rainbow22]

Some scholars allow it and some dont. Many sunnies and shias allow it while most of the wahabies dont allow it. So you can not say Islam dont allow it.

 

[Pakistani1947]

Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips is a teacher, speaker, and author, resident in Qatar. He appears on Peace TV, which is a 24-hour Islamic satellite TV channel broadcasted to many countries around the world.

Education

Dr. Philips was born January 7, 1952 in Jamaica, but grew up in Canada, where he converted to Islam in 1972. He received his B.A. degree from the Islamic University of Madina and his M.A. in Aqeedah (Islamic Philosophy) from the King Saud University in Riyadh. Philips comes from a family of educators, as both his parents were teachers and his grandfather was a Church Minister and Bible scholar.

Islamic Information Center

In 1994 he founded (and continues to direct) an Islamic Information Center, now known as Discover Islam, in Dubai, United Arab Emirates.

Please see following video by Dr. Bilal Philip regarding Halal and Haram Music:

 

[Pakistani1947]

Yusuf Estes, (born 1 January 1944) is an American convert to Islam and former National Muslim Chaplain for the United States Bureau of Prisons as well as a Delegate to the United Nations World Peace Conference for Religious Leaders held in September 2000. He is actively involved in Islamic missionary work in the United States and often features as guest lecturer and keynote speaker at various Islamic events as well as frequently appearing on various Islamic satellite TV channels.

Yusuf Estes was born Skip Estes in Ohio, and was raised in Houston, Texas in an evangelical Protestant Christian family who were devout members of the Disciples of Christ.

From 1962 to 1990, his career was in the music industry, entertainment, marketing, working as a music instructor and music minister, whose family owned several musical instrument companies including the Estes Piano and Organ Company. He produced and directed live entertainment programs in the United States from the mid 1960s until his last endeavor for cable TV in Florida, entitled 'Estes Music Jamboree'.

Estes is currently semi-retired, living with his wife in the Virginia suburbs of Washington, D.C., in the United States.

After his conversion, Estes pursued Arabic language and Qur'anic studies in Egypt, Morocco and Turkey.[2]

From 2004, Estes regularly appeared on the Islam Channel, as well as Peace TV and on Huda TV which are 24/7 Islamic channels broadcasting in many countries around the globe, via satellite and via the website WatchIslam.com TV Channels].

He also set up websites directed toward English speaking Muslim youth which include www.TubeIslam.com, a Muslim video sharing site, and a Muslim Chatroom, and for young children www.WorldPreschool.com, Preschool Learning.

He also produced a television series aimed toward English speaking children of Muslim parents entitled, "Qasas Ul Anbiya" - Stories of the Prophets.

His Islamic activities have included:

* Volunteer Imam in a Texas military installation.
* National U.S. Chaplain for the Federal Bureau of Prisons, starting 1994.
* Delegate to the United Nations Peace Summit for Religious Leaders in August 2000.
* University guest speaker (including Carnegie Mellon Qatar)
* Television program producer and director, preacher, syndicated television programs on satellite and cable networks.
* Estes takes a dim view of public education in the United States for Muslim children, and recommends schools where they might receive an Islamic education as well as a more advanced scholastic education too.

In following video Yusuf Estes discuss the topic Music in Islam:

 

[Pakistani1947]

Another video on Music in Islam by Yousuf Estes:

[video]http://www.tubeislam.com/video/3597/Music-In-Islam[/video]

 

[Pakistani1947]

Translation by Yusuf Ali:But there are, among men, those who purchase idle tales, without knowledge (or meaning), to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah and throw ridicule (on the Path): for such there will be a Humiliating Penalty.
(Qur’aan 31:6)

Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari: that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection." (Sahih Bukhari Book #69, Hadith #494v)

 

[Pakistani1947]

Dr. Zakir Naik's point of view:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF94jtwUbvQ

Some more Zakir Naik's videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ILZmpFDQHY

 

[abduttawwab]

Translation by Yusuf Ali:But there are, among men, those who purchase idle tales, without knowledge (or meaning), to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah and throw ridicule (on the Path): for such there will be a Humiliating Penalty.
(Qur’aan 31:6)

Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari: that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection." (Sahih Bukhari Book #69, Hadith #494v)

Jazak`Allah brother

 

[biomat]

Assalam-o-alaikum
Again thanks & jaza-k-ALLAH for sharing yousuf estes & others videos. Good to hear from them who have actually experienced these issues & left them (wordly loss for time being).. WALLAH ALAM. Thanks brother.