Citizen X
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Also read my post/article on this I subject I wrote in Oct 2023
Why No Written Hadith?
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Wake up Pak
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Let me ask a question to all the followers of Hadith: Have you read all of the hadith? Are you aware that there are numerous contradictory, outright insulting, and derogatory ahadith about Prophet Mohammad and his companions? How can anyone in their right mind accept such ahadith?
In this day and age, if I were to write a book praising Prophet Mohammad while also including insulting or derogatory content about him, how would you feel about me? Would you accept the book, or would you issue a religious edict (Fatwa) to have me killed for insulting the Prophet?
In this day and age, if I were to write a book praising Prophet Mohammad while also including insulting or derogatory content about him, how would you feel about me? Would you accept the book, or would you issue a religious edict (Fatwa) to have me killed for insulting the Prophet?
Wake up Pak
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69:43 ˹It is˺ a revelation from the Lord of all worlds.
69:44 Had the Messenger made up something in Our Name,
69:45 We would have certainly seized him by his right hand,
69:46 then severed his aorta,
69:47 and none of you could have shielded him ˹from Us˺!
69:48 Indeed, this ˹Quran˺ is a reminder to those mindful ˹of Allah˺.
69:49 And We certainly know that some of you will persist in denial,
69:50 and it will surely be a source of regret for the disbelievers.
69:51 And indeed, this ˹Quran˺ is the absolute truth.
69:52 So glorify the Name of your Lord, the Greatest.
69:44 Had the Messenger made up something in Our Name,
69:45 We would have certainly seized him by his right hand,
69:46 then severed his aorta,
69:47 and none of you could have shielded him ˹from Us˺!
69:48 Indeed, this ˹Quran˺ is a reminder to those mindful ˹of Allah˺.
69:49 And We certainly know that some of you will persist in denial,
69:50 and it will surely be a source of regret for the disbelievers.
69:51 And indeed, this ˹Quran˺ is the absolute truth.
69:52 So glorify the Name of your Lord, the Greatest.
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Wake up Pak
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What an idiotic moron this ignorant Mullah is. The Surah's arrangement was done by Allah Himself.
Stay away from these bearded goat Mullahs, who add or subtract anything from the Quran.
Salam. I understand that you disagree with him on this issue and perhaps do not believe in all ahadith. And, no one can take the allowance of reasonable criticism which Allah SWT has granted you. However, historically speaking, Prophet Muhammad SAW and his companions had facial hair. It is also true that those who imitate him in growing their facial hair evidently do not and cannot match him in character, and some even take advantage of their adoption to further their interests and exploit people. Nonetheless, it is a feature of the prophet SAW. Therefore, I humbly request you to refrain from describing the feature of prophet PBUH, which the mullahs also attempt to imitate, in a derogatory manner. May Allah forgive us all, and guide us to the right path. Jazak Allah Khair.
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Citizen X
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Prophet Muhammad was a person of his time and his people. He dressed like them, he looked like them, he spoke like them and interacted with them. He was not some whimsical recluse. Having a beard was a pretty much cultural thing and almost everyone had them. Its in not too beyond imagination or too far of a belief that some of the most staunchest and fiercest enemies of the Prophet and Islam also had beards like him and dressed like him, like Abu Jahal per say.
So saying that having a beard has any religious value or in someway a quality of the prophet is absolutely false.
AND unfortunately if you are a believer and follower of hadith. What do they say as to why the prophet had a beard in the first place. It was to differentiate from the kuffar ( which doesn't make sense because of the reasons I already mentioned earlier as everyone also had a beard ) your hadith says he trimmed his mustached because the kuffar grew them long, when the kuffar started to part their hair from the side he started to part his hair from the middle. So basically to do the opposite of what the Kuffar of the time were doing, to keep some kind of visual distinction according to your hadith.
Today, who are religiously bound as in strictly to have a beard. Hasidic Jews, Sikhs and a very strong tradition and culture in the orthodox Christian clergy. And low and behold beards are back in fashion all across the western world today. If not full on beard but some kind of facial hair, like a goatee, chin strap etc etc SOOOO if one were to follow the hadith and what supposedly was the whole point in having a beard. Allegedly according to your hadiths If the Prophet was alive today he would most probably be clean shaven.
So please stop trying to make that the beard has some kind of religious connotations, is an icon of piety or devotion to the prophet.
Citizen X
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I had to unblock this patwari to see what he was blabbing about. As usual nothing new, same old bhand moulvis and their bhaand giri with no foundation, baseless and debunked rhetoric.
Notice no real reply or counter argument for the actual questions asked. Just by default going straight to their bhaand moulvis.
Wake up Pak
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Keeping the beard was a culture of that time. Abu Jahal & Abu Sufyan also had a beard and the people before the Prophet also had a beard. I'm not against a beard, but these ignorant, pathetic mullahs keep the beard and try to portray themselves as holy or more knowledgeable people, just irks me.
