Why The West Craves Materialism and Why The East Sticks To Religion - by Imran Khan

عؔلی خان

MPA (400+ posts)
Why The West Craves Materialism and Why The East Sticks To Religion

by Imran Khan | January 15, 2002

My generation grew up at a time when colonial hang up was at its peak. Our older generation had been slaves and had a huge inferiority complex of the British. The school I went to was similar to all elite schools in Pakistan. Despite gaining independence, they were, and still are, producing replicas of public schoolboys rather than Pakistanis.

I read Shakespeare, which was fine, but no Allama Iqbal – the national poet of Pakistan. The class on Islamic studies was not taken seriously, and when I left school I was considered among the elite of the country because I could speak English and wore Western clothes.

Despite periodically shouting ‘Pakistan Zindabad’ in school functions, I considered my own culture backward and religion outdated. Among our group if anyone talked about religion, prayed or kept a beard he was immediately branded a Mullah.

Because of the power of the Western media, our heroes were Western movie stars or pop stars. When I went to Oxford already burdened with this hang-up, things didn’t get any easier. At Oxford, not just Islam, but all religions were considered anachronism.

Science had replaced religion and if something couldn’t be logically proved it did not exist. All supernatural stuff was confined to the movies. Philosophers like Darwin, who with his half-baked theory of evolution had supposedly disproved the creation of men and hence religion, were read and revered.

Moreover, European history reflected its awful experience with religion. The horrors committed by the Christian clergy during the Inquisition era had left a powerful impact on the Western mind.

To understand why the West is so keen on secularism, one should go to places like Cordoba in Spain and see the torture apparatus used during the Spanish Inquisition. Also, the persecution of scientists as heretics by the clergy had convinced the Europeans that all religions are regressive.

However, the biggest factor that drove people like me away from religion was the selective Islam practiced by most of its preachers. In short, there was a huge difference between what they practiced and what they preached. Also, rather than explaining the philosophy behind the religion, there was an overemphasis on rituals.

I feel that humans are different from animals. While the latter can be drilled, humans need to be intellectually convinced. That is why the Qur’an constantly appeals to reason. The worst, of course, was the exploitation of Islam for political gains by various individuals or groups.

Hence, it was a miracle I did not become an atheist. The only reason, why I did not was, the powerful religious influence my mother wielded on me since my childhood. It was not so much out of conviction but love for her that I stayed a Muslim.

However, my Islam was selective. I accepted only parts of the religion that suited me. Prayers were restricted to Eid days and occasionally on Fridays, when my father insisted on taking me to the mosque with him.

All in all, I was smoothly moving to become a Pukka Brown Sahib. After all, I had the right credentials in terms of school, university and, above all, acceptability in the English aristocracy, something that our brown sahibs would give their lives for. So what led me to do a ‘lota’ on the Brown Sahib culture and instead become a ‘desi’?

Well, it did not just happen overnight.

Firstly, the inferiority complex that my generation had inherited gradually went as I developed into a world-class athlete. Secondly, I was in the unique position of living between two cultures. I began to see the advantages and the disadvantages of both societies.

In Western societies, institutions were strong while they were collapsing in our country. However, there was an area where we were and still are superior, and that is our family life. I began to realize that this was the Western society’s biggest loss. In trying to free itself from the oppression of the clergy, they had removed both God and religion from their lives.

While science, no matter how much it progresses, can answer a lot of questions – two questions it will never be able to answer: One, what is the purpose of our existence and two, what happens to us when we die?

It is this vacuum that I felt created the materialistic and the hedonistic culture. If this is the only life then one must make hay while the sun shines – and in order to do so, one needs money. Such a culture is bound to cause psychological problems in a human being, as there was going to be an imbalance between the body and the soul.

Consequently, in the US, which has shown the greatest materialistic progress while giving its citizens numerous rights, almost 60 percent of the population consult psychiatrists. Yet, amazingly in modern psychology, there is no study of the human soul. Sweden and Switzerland, who provide the most welfare to their citizens, also have the highest suicide rates. Hence, man is not necessarily content with material well being and needs something more.

Since all morality has its roots in religion, once religion was removed, immorality has progressively grown since the 70s. Its direct impact has been on family life. In the UK, the divorce rate is 60 percent, while it is estimated that there are over 35 percent single mothers. The crime rate is rising in almost all Western societies, but the most disturbing fact is the alarming increase in racism. While science always tries to prove the inequality of man (recent survey showing the American Black to be genetically less intelligent than whites) it is only a religion that preaches the equality of man.

Between 1991 and 1997, it was estimated that total immigration into Europe was around 520,000, and there were racially motivated attacks all over, especially in Britain, France and Germany. In Pakistan during the Afghan war, we had over four million refugees, and despite the people being so much poorer, there was no racial tension.

There was a sequence of events in the 80s that moved me toward God as the Qur’an says: ‘There are signs for people of understanding. ‘One of them was cricket. As I was a student of the game, the more I understood the game, the more I began to realize that what I considered to be chance was, in fact, the will of Allah. A pattern which became clearer with time. But it was not until Salman Rushdie’s ‘Satanic Verses’ that my understanding of Islam began to develop.

People like me who were living in the Western world bore the brunt of anti-Islam prejudice that followed the Muslim reaction to the book. We were left with two choices: fight or flight. Since I felt strongly that the attacks on Islam were unfair, I decided to fight. It was then I realized that I was not equipped to do so as my knowledge of Islam was inadequate. Hence I started my research and for me a period of my greatest enlightenment. I read scholars like Ali Shariati, Muhammad Asad, Iqbal, Gai Eaton, plus of course, a study of Qur’an.

I will try to explain as concisely as is possible, what ‘discovering the truth’ meant for me. When the believers are addressed in the Qur’an, it always says, ‘Those who believe and do good deeds.’ In other words, a Muslim has a dual function, one toward God and the other toward fellow human beings.

The greatest impact of believing in God for me, meant that I lost all fear of human beings. The Qur’an liberates man from man when it says that life and death and respect and humiliation are God’s jurisdiction, so we do not have to bow before other human beings.

Moreover, since this is a transitory world where we prepare for the eternal one, I broke out of the self-imposed prisons, such as growing old (such a curse in the Western world, as a result of which, plastic surgeons are having a field day), materialism, ego, what people say and so on. It is important to note that one does not eliminate earthly desires. But instead of being controlled by them, one controls them.

By following the second part of believing in Islam, I have become a better human being. Rather than being self-centered and living for the self, I feel that because the Almighty gave so much to me, in turn, I must use that blessing to help the less privileged. This I did by following the fundamentals of Islam rather than becoming a Kalashnikov-wielding fanatic.

I have become a tolerant and a giving human being who feels compassion for the underprivileged. Instead of attributing success to myself, I know it is because of God’s will, hence I learned humility instead of arrogance.

Also, instead of the snobbish Brown Sahib attitude toward our masses, I believe in egalitarianism and strongly feel against the injustice done to the weak in our society. According to the Qur’an, ‘Oppression is worse than killing.’ In fact, only now do I understand the true meaning of Islam, if you submit to the will of Allah, you have inner peace.

Through my faith, I have discovered the strength within me that I never knew existed and that has released my potential in life. I feel that in Pakistan we have selective Islam. Just believing in God and going through the rituals is not enough. One also has to be a good human being. I feel there are certain Western countries with far more Islamic traits than us in Pakistan, especially in the way they protect the rights of their citizens, or for that matter their justice system. In fact, some of the finest individuals I know live there.

What I dislike about them is their double standards in the way they protect the rights of their citizens but consider citizens of other countries as being somehow inferior to them as human being, e.g. dumping toxic waste in the Third World, advertising cigarettes that are not allowed in the West and selling drugs that are banned in the West.

One of the problems facing Pakistan is the polarization of two reactionary groups. On the one side is the Westernized group that looks upon Islam through Western eyes and has inadequate knowledge about the subject. It reacts strongly to anyone trying to impose Islam in society and wants only a selective part of the religion. On the other extreme is the group that reacts to this Westernized elite and in trying to become a defender of the faith, takes up such intolerant and self-righteous attitudes that are repugnant to the spirit of Islam.

What needs to be done is to somehow start a dialogue between the two extremes. In order for this to happen, the group on whom the greatest proportion of our educational resources are spent in this country must study Islam properly.

Whether they become practicing Muslims or believe in God is entirely a personal choice. As the Qur’an tells us there is ‘no compulsion in religion.’ However, they must arm themselves with knowledge as a weapon to fight extremism. Just by turning up their noses at extremism the problem is not going to be solved.

The Qur’an calls Muslims ‘the middle nation’, not of extremes. The Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) was told to simply give the message and not worry whether people converted or not, therefore, there is no question in Islam of forcing your opinions on anyone else.

Moreover, we are told to respect other religions, their places of worship and their prophets. It should be noted that no Muslim missionaries or armies ever went to Malaysia or Indonesia. The people converted to Islam due to the high principles and impeccable character of the Muslim traders. At the moment, the worst advertisements for Islam are the countries with their selective Islam, especially where religion is used to deprive people of their rights. In fact, a society that obeys the fundamentals of Islam has to be a liberal one.

If Pakistan’s Westernized class starts to study Islam, not only will it be able to help society fight sectarianism and extremism, but it will also make them realize what a progressive religion Islam is. They will also be able to help the Western world by articulating Islamic concepts. Recently, Prince Charles accepted that the Western world can learn from Islam. But how can this happen if the group that is in the best position to project Islam gets its attitudes from the West and considers Islam backward? Islam is a universal religion and that is why our Prophet (peace be upon him) was called a Mercy for all mankind.

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thinking

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Both societies are following extreme sides
on religion and materialism...Islam clearily teaches Ewtdaal..Middle way..in life...while materialism have no boundaries.its meant to go higher and higher as they don't accept any kind of spritually.
Morality...It's only have some rules to earnd.. pleasure..that's it the whole story of Materialism...
 

عؔلی خان

MPA (400+ posts)
Both societies are following extreme sides
on religion and materialism...Islam clearily teaches Ewtdaal..Middle way..in life...while materialism have no boundaries.its meant to go higher and higher as they don't accept any kind of spritually.
Morality...It's only have some rules to earnd.. pleasure..that's it the whole story of Materialism...

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lurker

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What is religion but the fuel for one's own Ego? Humankind feel they are something special. Even though scientific evidence points to the fact that mankind is just another animal on this planet. Tomorrow if man disappeared from the planet completely, nothing will happen. The world will continue to exist as it has always done, albeit it without the influence of man.

Imagine the Ego of a man to think He is so special in this universe that Only a God could've created him. All religious people therefore have an Ego to which they feed religion.

Coming to Imran Khan, I don't mind him worshiping Women if he likes to; I just mind him bringing all this baggage with him to the State. I don't like people preaching their religion to me. And Imran preaches every single time he has a Mic infront of him.
 

pinionated

Minister (2k+ posts)
What is religion but the fuel for one's own Ego? Humankind feel they are something special. Even though scientific evidence points to the fact that mankind is just another animal on this planet. Tomorrow if man disappeared from the planet completely, nothing will happen. The world will continue to exist as it has always done, albeit it without the influence of man.

Imagine the Ego of a man to think He is so special in this universe that Only a God could've created him. All religious people therefore have an Ego to which they feed religion.

Coming to Imran Khan, I don't mind him worshiping Women if he likes to; I just mind him bringing all this baggage with him to the State. I don't like people preaching their religion to me. And Imran preaches every single time he has a Mic infront of him.
Dude, u don’t need religion to feed your ego. For example, u r feeding your own ego by putting down religion.
Unfortunately this is such a long drawn out discussion that I don’t have the patience or time to discuss with u. To each their own....
 

عؔلی خان

MPA (400+ posts)
What is religion but the fuel for one's own Ego? Humankind feel they are something special. Even though scientific evidence points to the fact that mankind is just another animal on this planet. Tomorrow if man disappeared from the planet completely, nothing will happen. The world will continue to exist as it has always done, albeit it without the influence of man.

Imagine the Ego of a man to think He is so special in this universe that Only a God could've created him. All religious people therefore have an Ego to which they feed religion.

Coming to Imran Khan, I don't mind him worshiping Women if he likes to; I just mind him bringing all this baggage with him to the State. I don't like people preaching their religion to me. And Imran preaches every single time he has a Mic infront of him.

With all due respect, you just preached about your religion in the very first two paragraphs. Thus, Imran Khan has got the same right as you do. If you don't agree with Imran Khan's preaching to the Muslim citizens of Islamic Republic of Pakistan then please feel welcome to move to where I live, the United States or any other Western country. I just hope that you don't get disappointed. Good luck. Thank you. :)
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Science has existed for atleast 400,000 years... Organized religions only date back less than 10,000 years. The bone needles that our early ancestors used over 50,000 years ago to stitch clothes were invented with the same science by which computers are made. Its the same science that Neanderthals used to create glue via chemical reactions to attach their arrow tips to arrow shaft 50,000 years. You use all these products of science, clothing and computers yet portray it as a substitute for your superstitious beliefs.

You can believe that Earthquakes are caused by a big whale (Nun) on which Allah set the flat Earth on. You can believe that the sun literally sets on the Earth, you can believe that a prophet split the moon in half and he flew to heaven on a donkey with a human face. You can believe that camel piss has medicinal properties. But please leave the rest of the world and the scientific community out of your superstitious beliefs. We have got nothing to do with this backwardness.
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Scientists say that humans are nothing special and are another animal that just evolved differently. Religious people say human beings are ashraful makhlukat and angels are ordered to bow down before them.

Scientists say that they do not know things with absolute certainty, and if they do not know something yet they are humble enough to admit it that they do not know it. Religious people say they know with absolute certainty that God did everything. When asked for evidence they have none and lie about it.

So who is feeding whose ego?

Dude, u don’t need religion to feed your ego. For example, u r feeding your own ego by putting down religion.
Unfortunately this is such a long drawn out discussion that I don’t have the patience or time to discuss with u. To each their own....
 

pinionated

Minister (2k+ posts)
Scientists say that humans are nothing special and are another animal that just evolved differently. Religious people say human beings are ashraful makhlukat and angels are ordered to bow down before them.

Scientists say that they do not know things with absolute certainty, and if they do not know something yet they are humble enough to admit it that they do not know it. Religious people say they know with absolute certainty that God did everything. When asked for evidence they have none and lie about it.

So who is feeding whose ego?

As I said earlier, to each their own....
Science is trying to make sense of our surroundings while religions try to explain our purpose.
Ego feeding has nothing to do with religion or science. it is just a human trait
 

thinking

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Science has existed for atleast 400,000 years... Organized religions only date back less than 10,000 years. The bone needles that our early ancestors used over 50,000 years ago to stitch clothes were invented with the same science by which computers are made. Its the same science that Neanderthals used to create glue via chemical reactions to attach their arrow tips to arrow shaft 50,000 years. You use all these products of science, clothing and computers yet portray it as a substitute for your superstitious beliefs.

You can believe that Earthquakes are caused by a big whale (Nun) on which Allah set the flat Earth on. You can believe that the sun literally sets on the Earth, you can believe that a prophet split the moon in half and he flew to heaven on a donkey with a human face. You can believe that camel piss has medicinal properties. But please leave the rest of the world and the scientific community out of your superstitious beliefs. We have got nothing to do with this backwardness.


Hahah..and those who feed you that science is 400000 years old...and you convinced..To make your living better..This is Humane nature built in quality..It's nothing to do with your religion of Science..As humane brain build Aromic energy to used for energy needs..but you also used it for destroy whole planet Earth..Did Religion of Science preeches you that??. For old folks stories..not all be followed..As some says..Earth is holding by Cow in her horns..when she shifts... then earthquake happened.Cow piss is the remedy of all deseases on the world..so in so...
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
On a lighter note lets make a challenge on who can spot the most factual errors in this article:

1. Science basically means knowledge. This concept has existed since atleast 400,000 years. Organized religions only appeared less than 10,000 years ago.

2. Nope... If something cant be proven It does not mean it doesn't exist. it just means there is not a good reason to believe it.

3. No one has ever proven any super natural activity there is no reason to believe that it exists

4. Darwin was a biologist, not a philosopher

5. Evolution is an observable fact. The theory of evolution by natural selection explains the fact of evolution. A scientific theory is an explanation of a fact. You cannot have a theory without an underlying fact.

6. Secularism has existed from thousands of years, major early works are by Aristotle, Marcus Aurelius. Later during enlightenment period the study of philosophy had evolved with contributions by thinkers like Voltaire and Thomas Jefferson. This has nothing to do with the Spanish inquisition.

7. Science saw many inventions during Islam and under the Church, most major scientists during that time like Isaac Newton were religious and supported by the Church. Church sponsored major scientific work and started universities that taught math and philosophy.

8. People are not being driven away from just Islam, but all other religions as well. This is because with greater access to information people are more informed and at a greater liberty to make their own decisions without death threats, fear of violence or pressure.

9. Humans are animals. We have the same dna structure. The same reproductive organs and live and die as other animals do. We just evolved intelligence at the cost of strength while others evolved the ability to fly or the ability to hunt down other big animals.

10. Science is not a religion or a group. It is the collective knowledge of humans that can be tested and supported with evidence. If science cannot answer those questions, then neither can anyone else. You can make up whatever answers you want, it doesn't make it true...

11. You do not need God or religion to be spiritual. Meditation works just as well for an atheist as it does for a Christian.

12. Most people in US consult psychiatrists/doctors. This is not a bad thing as it shows people can afford it. More people in Pakistan need psychiatrists than US but there is a negative stigma attached to seeing psychiatrists in Pakistan and most people cannot afford it.

13. This is the dumbest statement so far. Morality is an evolved framework and exists in other animals as-well, it is crucial for the survival of species that live together in a group. The earliest works on morality are secular, for example Aristotle's Virtue Ethics and Marcus Aurelius's Meditations. Religious morality adds nothing to secular morality and is in-fact vastly inferior to secular morality.

14. While science can be used to prove that someone can run faster than another, or throw a ball faster, or solve a math equation faster, it does not say people are not equal. This is a delusional statement.

15. How do you know?

16. I can see extremist activity of only one group. I do not see the negative effects of the other. Pointing out the ignorance of a society is not extremism. If Voltaire never spoke against the Church, Europe would still be a shithole that it was in the dark ages.

17. This is the only statement I agree with. If Pakistanis study Islam more, they are more likely to become atheists and this can infact end extremism.

Why The West Craves Materialism and Why The East Sticks To Religion

by Imran Khan | January 15, 2002

1. Science had replaced religion

2. if something couldn’t be logically proved it did not exist.

3. All supernatural stuff was confined to the movies.

4. Philosophers like Darwin

5. half-baked theory of evolution

6. To understand why the West is so keen on secularism, one should go to places like Cordoba in Spain and see the torture apparatus used during the Spanish Inquisition

7. persecution of scientists as heretics by the clergy had convinced the Europeans that all religions are regressive.

8. However, the biggest factor that drove people like me away from religion was the selective Islam practiced by most of its preachers

9. I feel that humans are different from animals.

10. While science, no matter how much it progresses, can answer a lot of questions – two questions it will never be able to answer: One, what is the purpose of our existence and two, what happens to us when we die?

11. It is this vacuum that I felt created the materialistic and the hedonistic culture. If this is the only life then one must make hay while the sun shines – and in order to do so, one needs money. Such a culture is bound to cause psychological problems in a human being, as there was going to be an imbalance between the body and the soul.

12. Consequently, in the US, which has shown the greatest materialistic progress while giving its citizens numerous rights, almost 60 percent of the population consult psychiatrists. Yet, amazingly in modern psychology, there is no study of the human soul. Sweden and Switzerland, who provide the most welfare to their citizens, also have the highest suicide rates.

13. Since all morality has its roots in religion

14. While science always tries to prove the inequality of man (recent survey showing the American Black to be genetically less intelligent than whites) it is only a religion that preaches the equality of man.

15. Moreover, since this is a transitory world where we prepare for the eternal one

16. One of the problems facing Pakistan is the polarization of two reactionary groups. On the one side is the Westernized group that looks upon Islam through Western eyes and has inadequate knowledge about the subject. It reacts strongly to anyone trying to impose Islam in society and wants only a selective part of the religion. On the other extreme is the group that reacts to this Westernized elite and in trying to become a defender of the faith, takes up such intolerant and self-righteous attitudes that are repugnant to the spirit of Islam.

What needs to be done is to somehow start a dialogue between the two extremes. In order for this to happen, the group on whom the greatest proportion of our educational resources are spent in this country must study Islam properly.

17. If Pakistan’s Westernized class starts to study Islam, not only will it be able to help society fight sectarianism and extremism, but it will also make them realize what a progressive religion Islam is.

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Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
RIP English...

Just reply in Urdu, I can read Urdu.

Hahah..and those who feed you that science is 400000 years old...and you convinced..To make your living better..This is Humane nature built in quality..It's nothing to do with your religion of Science..As humane brain build Aromic energy to used for energy needs..but you also used it for destroy whole planet Earth..Did Religion of Science preeches you that??. For old folks stories..not all be followed..As some says..Earth is holding by Cow in her horns..when she shifts... then earthquake happened.Cow piss is the remedy of all deseases on the world..so in so...
 
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Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The difference is that Science is using evidence to explain the world around us. Religion is using faith to explain the world around us. Faith is not a pathway to truth, its a pathway to ignorance. Societies that run of evidence based thinking will always be ahead of societies that are based on faith. Because faith by definition means believing in something without evidence or reason.

Definition:
faith
noun
strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

As I said earlier, to each their own....
Science is trying to make sense of our surroundings while religions try to explain our purpose.
Ego feeding has nothing to do with religion or science. it is just a human trait
 

عؔلی خان

MPA (400+ posts)
...you can believe that a prophet split the moon in half and he flew to heaven on a donkey with a human face.

Regardless of your beliefs about Islam, Science or anything else, I think you have forgotten that this forum is read by lots of Muslims, in Pakistan, out of Pakistan and from the world over. Your sacrilegious comments which I excerpted above, in which you are alluding to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), are totally and categorically uncalled for and may or surely have offended lots of people. Thus, I think you owe an apology.
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Its not my belief, its Muslims belief mentioned in Quran and supported by Islamic authorities such as Ibn Abbas that the moon was split in half. This belief is contrary to all scientific evidence and discredited by nasa.

As for the flying donkey/muel it is mentioned in Sahih Bukhari.

Then a white animal which was smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was brought to me ... The animal's step (was so wide that it) reached the farthest point within the reach of the animal's sight.

— Muhammad al-Bukhari, Sahih al-Bukhari


Regardless of your beliefs about Islam, Science or anything else, I think you have forgotten that this forum is read by lots of Muslims, in Pakistan, out of Pakistan and from the world over. Your sacrilegious comments which I excerpted above, in which you are alluding to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), are totally and categorically uncalled for and may or surely have offended lots of people. Thus, I think you owe an apology.
 

عؔلی خان

MPA (400+ posts)
Its not my belief, its Muslims belief mentioned in Quran and supported by Islamic authorities such as Ibn Abbas that the moon was split in half. This belief is contrary to all scientific evidence and discredited by nasa.

By adding the above comments, you are making it abundantly clear that you are intentionally and knowingly offending the Muslims, disrespecting the Quran, Ibn Abbas (RA), and last but not the least, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) as well.

It doesn't matter whether you or anybody else believe it or not or it is "contrary to all scientific evidence and discredited by nasa."

The crux of the matter is that it is what nearly 2 billions Muslims (who are also human beings) around the world believe and as a human being, regardless whether you agree with them or not, you must not offend them nor pass any sacrilegious comments regarding Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) or Quran by coming to a Pakistani (about 96.4% of Pakistanis are Muslims) forum which is read by them world over. Thus, you owe an apology.
 
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