Women rule in Islam ?
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itsnotme90
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Re: کیا عورت حکومت کر سکتی ہے؟ اسلام کیا کہتا &#
Jis mulk ko tabah karna ho us ka sarbarah aurat ko banado. Apni poori zindagi jo mard say badla laynay main guzarti hai woh badla phir woh us qaum say laygi. ;) I wish a woman become american president. American made benazir a prime minister in pakistan in past just to slap on muslim faces coz its against islamic laws. Thats why she use to say democracy is the best revenge.
Jis mulk ko tabah karna ho us ka sarbarah aurat ko banado. Apni poori zindagi jo mard say badla laynay main guzarti hai woh badla phir woh us qaum say laygi. ;) I wish a woman become american president. American made benazir a prime minister in pakistan in past just to slap on muslim faces coz its against islamic laws. Thats why she use to say democracy is the best revenge.
shaheedchoudry
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: کیا عورت حکومت کر سکتی ہے؟ اسلام کیا کہتا ہ
Jis ghar main aurat ki hukmarani ho.....khair nahi hoti.
I am joking. Woman are equally talented to run a country.
We have tried men and women. why not Almas Bobby this time and lets see...............
Jis ghar main aurat ki hukmarani ho.....khair nahi hoti.
I am joking. Woman are equally talented to run a country.
We have tried men and women. why not Almas Bobby this time and lets see...............
mehwish_ali
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: کیا عورت حکومت کر سکتی ہے؟ اسلام کیا کہتا ہ
Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 88, Number 219:
Narrated Abu Bakra:
During the battle of Al-Jamal, Allah benefited me with a Word (I heard from the Prophet). When the Prophet heard the news that the people of the Persia had made the daughter of Khosrau their Queen (ruler), he said, "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler."
Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 88, Number 219:
Narrated Abu Bakra:
During the battle of Al-Jamal, Allah benefited me with a Word (I heard from the Prophet). When the Prophet heard the news that the people of the Persia had made the daughter of Khosrau their Queen (ruler), he said, "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler."
shaheedchoudry
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: کیا عورت حکومت کر سکتی ہے؟ اسلام کیا کہتا ہ
mehwish_ali
You have posted a "hadees" above, I have read and read but I am bit confused. Can you please simplify it.
mehwish_ali
You have posted a "hadees" above, I have read and read but I am bit confused. Can you please simplify it.
Re: کیا عورت حکومت کر سکتی ہے؟ اسلام کیا کہتا ہ
Aap badshah admi ho. Aurat to hukmrani nahin karsakti lekin Benazir kar sakti hay kiyun kay woh Bhutto hay. Aur Bhuttos Islam say bulund hain.
Aap badshah admi ho. Aurat to hukmrani nahin karsakti lekin Benazir kar sakti hay kiyun kay woh Bhutto hay. Aur Bhuttos Islam say bulund hain.
shaheedchoudry
Minister (2k+ posts)
Bangash
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: کیا عورت حکومت کر سکتی ہے؟ اسلام کیا کہتا ہ
حکومت تو بہت بڑی بات ہے ، ایک خاندان ،ایک کنبے کو منظم نہیں کرسکتی. اس کی مثال یورپ کی لے لیں -جہاں عورت کو آزادی مل گئی تو اس کی شر سے ٧٠% کنبے طلاق کے شکار ہیں- اور ٧٠% سے زیادہ کنبوں میں اپنے والد کے بچے نہیں ہوتھے حرامی ہیں. یہ میں نہیں کہ رہا بلکے اخبار بلڈ سائی ٹونگ کی رپورٹ تھی . اور ڈ ان اے ٹیسٹ سے سابت ہوچکا ہے. اور مردوں کا یہ حال ہے کہ ابھی ٦٥% مرد شادی نہیں کرنا چاھتے. عورتوں کے ساتھ تو رهتے ہیں مگر شادی اس لئے نہیں کرتے کہ اگر عورت کو کوئی دوسرا پسند آجاے تو بغیر طلاق کے اس کو چھوڑ دیا جائے. اس طرح اس مرد کو ٥٠% جائیداد کی تقسیم اس عورت سے اور اس کے بچوں سے نہیں کرنی پڑتی. اور عورتیں بچے نہیں پیدا کرنا چاہتی تا کے زیادہ عرصہ جوان رہیں. اخیر میں ایک کتا یا بلی رکھ لیتی ہیں-یا زیادہ سے زیادہ ایک بچا پیدا کر لیتی ہے- اور بھوڑوں کے ہاسٹل میں زندگی کے آخری دن گزارتھیں ہیں.
حکومت تو بہت بڑی بات ہے ، ایک خاندان ،ایک کنبے کو منظم نہیں کرسکتی. اس کی مثال یورپ کی لے لیں -جہاں عورت کو آزادی مل گئی تو اس کی شر سے ٧٠% کنبے طلاق کے شکار ہیں- اور ٧٠% سے زیادہ کنبوں میں اپنے والد کے بچے نہیں ہوتھے حرامی ہیں. یہ میں نہیں کہ رہا بلکے اخبار بلڈ سائی ٹونگ کی رپورٹ تھی . اور ڈ ان اے ٹیسٹ سے سابت ہوچکا ہے. اور مردوں کا یہ حال ہے کہ ابھی ٦٥% مرد شادی نہیں کرنا چاھتے. عورتوں کے ساتھ تو رهتے ہیں مگر شادی اس لئے نہیں کرتے کہ اگر عورت کو کوئی دوسرا پسند آجاے تو بغیر طلاق کے اس کو چھوڑ دیا جائے. اس طرح اس مرد کو ٥٠% جائیداد کی تقسیم اس عورت سے اور اس کے بچوں سے نہیں کرنی پڑتی. اور عورتیں بچے نہیں پیدا کرنا چاہتی تا کے زیادہ عرصہ جوان رہیں. اخیر میں ایک کتا یا بلی رکھ لیتی ہیں-یا زیادہ سے زیادہ ایک بچا پیدا کر لیتی ہے- اور بھوڑوں کے ہاسٹل میں زندگی کے آخری دن گزارتھیں ہیں.
well...interesting topic to talk about......i think islamic scholars can give better view about it....and here we can only our general point of view.........naturally ladies r weaker and never for such suit for such type of responsibilities.........thats y we cant any female leader even as president of USA or in islamic era of SAHABA Kiram (RTA)...........and i agree with above friend's comments that a family headed by a lady always has serious issues with ......so better to do the work each gender is best at.
itsnotme90
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Re: کیا عورت حکومت کر سکتی ہے؟ اسلام کیا کہتا &#
You took words of my mouth 100% agree
You took words of my mouth 100% agree
Re: کیا عورت حکومت کر سکتی ہے؟ اسلام کیا کہتا &#
1)As I have explained in my posts already, islamic law is based on situations and circumstances.
2)The best man for the job is all about merit based system of life.
3)Islam does not forbid rule by female.
a)Queen of sheeba is talked about in the quran and no where her is condemned because she was female.
b)Wife of prophet led a party of muslims against the 4th caliph of islam. She is not condemned.
c)First wife of the prophet was head of her own business and a lot of people worked for her including the prophet himself.
4)Muslims have mothers and it is said that paradise is in the feet of their mothers. This shows that women are not necessary lower in rank than men due to being women.
5)Only one's wife is the one we have question about ie has wife exactly the same rights on her husband as her husband has on her or does a husband have something extra?
Regardless of the views on 5)there is no restriction on woman for being a ruler in islam so long as she is the best person for the job.
6)Islam does not require of muslims to have an islamic state ruled by muslims but it does require that state be based on islamic principles wherein muslims live or that muslims must work hard to bring one about by way of spreading the message of islam so that people could turn to islam and when they have sufficient number of people they could form a government according to their wishes.
If a state is based on freedom of thought and expression, social justice, fair play, compassion for human beings, peace, progress and prosperty then muslims have no right to go against any such state even if it is a nonmuslim state rules by nonmuslims. However, their duty to deliver proper message of islam properly continues. If then nonmuslim people of state turn muslims and form an islam based government that is fine too.
Prophet yusuf stayed in egypt and the king there appointed him as an official. The state was ruled by good principles that is prophet yusuf invited all his family there.
Muslims are not allowed to live in any state wherein they are stopped from deliverying the message of islam. This is test of freedom of thought and expression. If muslims are oppressed, suppressed or persecuted for doing so, they must leave the land if need be or if they can fight back then they should. Even if a state is not ruled fairly yet if muslims are allowed to deliver the message of islam, they can live in the state in the hope that one day it may see the error of its way. Only if muslims are persecuted and suppressed by force that they can bear arms and fight back.
This is why if a muslims state does the same, the same applies. Because muslims are not allowed to suppress, oppress or persecute others nor are they allowed to do this to each other. In short islam does not allow muslims to suppress others and it does not allow muslims to accept suppression by others. They are not allowed to be masters and they are not allowed to slaves.
Brotherhood of humanity is fine, this is why prophet yusuf and his family could live in egypt with kufar. This is why one can live with ones kufaar relatives and friends. Islam is truly a human friendly way of life. Islam's bone of contention is with anti humanity anti social elements regardless they are muslims or nonmuslims.
7)So if muslims can live under nonmuslim rule then why not under a muslim female rule? Especially when islam gives better security and strength to a woman than nonmuslim societies because islam is \bout brotherhood not jungle rule where women are not safe out side homes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSlGsQnuvRE&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXrei26q9qI&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=SL
1)As I have explained in my posts already, islamic law is based on situations and circumstances.
2)The best man for the job is all about merit based system of life.
3)Islam does not forbid rule by female.
a)Queen of sheeba is talked about in the quran and no where her is condemned because she was female.
b)Wife of prophet led a party of muslims against the 4th caliph of islam. She is not condemned.
c)First wife of the prophet was head of her own business and a lot of people worked for her including the prophet himself.
4)Muslims have mothers and it is said that paradise is in the feet of their mothers. This shows that women are not necessary lower in rank than men due to being women.
5)Only one's wife is the one we have question about ie has wife exactly the same rights on her husband as her husband has on her or does a husband have something extra?
Regardless of the views on 5)there is no restriction on woman for being a ruler in islam so long as she is the best person for the job.
6)Islam does not require of muslims to have an islamic state ruled by muslims but it does require that state be based on islamic principles wherein muslims live or that muslims must work hard to bring one about by way of spreading the message of islam so that people could turn to islam and when they have sufficient number of people they could form a government according to their wishes.
If a state is based on freedom of thought and expression, social justice, fair play, compassion for human beings, peace, progress and prosperty then muslims have no right to go against any such state even if it is a nonmuslim state rules by nonmuslims. However, their duty to deliver proper message of islam properly continues. If then nonmuslim people of state turn muslims and form an islam based government that is fine too.
Prophet yusuf stayed in egypt and the king there appointed him as an official. The state was ruled by good principles that is prophet yusuf invited all his family there.
Muslims are not allowed to live in any state wherein they are stopped from deliverying the message of islam. This is test of freedom of thought and expression. If muslims are oppressed, suppressed or persecuted for doing so, they must leave the land if need be or if they can fight back then they should. Even if a state is not ruled fairly yet if muslims are allowed to deliver the message of islam, they can live in the state in the hope that one day it may see the error of its way. Only if muslims are persecuted and suppressed by force that they can bear arms and fight back.
This is why if a muslims state does the same, the same applies. Because muslims are not allowed to suppress, oppress or persecute others nor are they allowed to do this to each other. In short islam does not allow muslims to suppress others and it does not allow muslims to accept suppression by others. They are not allowed to be masters and they are not allowed to slaves.
Brotherhood of humanity is fine, this is why prophet yusuf and his family could live in egypt with kufar. This is why one can live with ones kufaar relatives and friends. Islam is truly a human friendly way of life. Islam's bone of contention is with anti humanity anti social elements regardless they are muslims or nonmuslims.
7)So if muslims can live under nonmuslim rule then why not under a muslim female rule? Especially when islam gives better security and strength to a woman than nonmuslim societies because islam is \bout brotherhood not jungle rule where women are not safe out side homes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSlGsQnuvRE&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXrei26q9qI&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=SL
atensari
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Muslims should not live under Non-Muslim ruler, even if Muslim ruler not following Islam completely is forbid.
4:59 يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓا۟ أَطِيعُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا۟ ٱلرَّسُولَ وَأُو۟لِى ٱلْأَمْرِ مِنكُمْ ۖ فَإِن تَنَٰزَعْتُمْ فِى شَىْءٍۢ فَرُدُّوهُ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ وَٱلرَّسُولِ إِن كُنتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَٱلْيَوْمِ ٱلْءَاخِرِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ خَيْرٌۭ وَأَحْسَنُ تَأْوِيلًا
O Ye who believe! obey Allah and obey the apostle and owners of authority from amongst you. then if dispute in aught refer it Unto ye Allah and the apostle if ye indeed believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best and fairest interpretation.
مومنو! خدا اور اس کے رسول کی فرمانبرداری کرو اور جو تم میں سے صاحب حکومت ہیں ان کی بھی اور اگر کسی بات میں تم میں اختلاف واقع ہو تو اگر خدا اور روز آخرت پر ایمان رکھتے ہو تو اس میں خدا اور اس کے رسول (کے حکم) کی طرف رجوع کرو یہ بہت اچھی بات ہے اور اس کا مآل بھی اچھا ہے
In the light of above Ayat, will Non-Muslim or Secular Muslim ruler in case of dispute took guidence from Allah and Rasool?
4:59 يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓا۟ أَطِيعُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا۟ ٱلرَّسُولَ وَأُو۟لِى ٱلْأَمْرِ مِنكُمْ ۖ فَإِن تَنَٰزَعْتُمْ فِى شَىْءٍۢ فَرُدُّوهُ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ وَٱلرَّسُولِ إِن كُنتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَٱلْيَوْمِ ٱلْءَاخِرِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ خَيْرٌۭ وَأَحْسَنُ تَأْوِيلًا
O Ye who believe! obey Allah and obey the apostle and owners of authority from amongst you. then if dispute in aught refer it Unto ye Allah and the apostle if ye indeed believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best and fairest interpretation.
مومنو! خدا اور اس کے رسول کی فرمانبرداری کرو اور جو تم میں سے صاحب حکومت ہیں ان کی بھی اور اگر کسی بات میں تم میں اختلاف واقع ہو تو اگر خدا اور روز آخرت پر ایمان رکھتے ہو تو اس میں خدا اور اس کے رسول (کے حکم) کی طرف رجوع کرو یہ بہت اچھی بات ہے اور اس کا مآل بھی اچھا ہے
In the light of above Ayat, will Non-Muslim or Secular Muslim ruler in case of dispute took guidence from Allah and Rasool?
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atensari
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Beside this there are other Un-Islamic things in Pakistan constitution. President has the right to forgive death penalty, 33% women representation etc.
دوران نماز اگر امام غلطی کرے تو مرد باآواز بلند "اللہ اکبر" کہتے ہیں، عورتوں کے کے حکم ہے کے ایک ہاتھ کو دوسرے ہاتھ کی پشت پر ماریں
عورت کی تو آواز کا بھی پردہ ہے، آپ اسے اسمبلی کی زینت بنا رہے ہیں
Dear atensari, to take this verse that way one will need to answer the questions that will arise because of the quran verses that allow lving under nonmuslim rule.
For example, why is one allowed to be looked after by his kafir parents and why is one imposed to lookafter his kafir parents?
Why did allah raise moses in house of pharaoh? Why prophet joseph was allowed to live in egypt and brought his father as well?
These like points prove that even when islamic state is there or not there one is allowed to live in a nonmuslim state under nonmuslim rule. In canaan prophet jacob was his own ruler yet he gave up on that freedom and accepted living in egypt.
This means that you have misunderstoof the verse you quoted. This verse is about when there is an islamic state and that it is ruled by a muslims ruler and you are living in it.
So please think over it or try and explain the problems with things I said that are based on the quranic verses which I assume you ar aware of.
We could be wrong but explanation would be a good idea for learning. Also it will be a good idea not to listen to any sect or person totally rather take good points of others that is the way to develop and grow and reduce differences to be closer to unity.
regards and all the best.
Dear atensari, the rule in islamic fiqh is very simple, if anything is not made unlawful then it is lawful.
If you have any clear proof that rule of women is unlawful please lets have it from the quran or authentic hadith.
Men and women used to gather in masjidal nabvi for various reasons besides prayers and as we know masjid is central to islam. It was the office of the prophet wherein he decided all matters. Women used to talk with men when they needed to. Some even corrected umar the 2nd caliph on occasions. Men used to learn islam from umul mumineen ayesha the wife of the prophet. Had it been forbidden she could not have led an army of muslims against ali the 4th caliph of islam.
It is no good opposing the quranic flow it is very clear. The ulema of ummah are allowed to make laws on occassions for certain situations or circumstances where by they can make unlawful that which is lawful. However when thing get back to normal these meassures taken by ulema no longer apply.
In general women in most societies remained oppressed and suppressed and persecuted and the situation was not any differnt in makkah. Some people used to bury their daughters alive. This shows why there were no women rulers in that time because they were kept back by men folk. Not only women but even men were oppressed and suppressed and enslaved.
When a society keeps its people down the society suffers by way of lack of respect for humanty in general that leads it to stagnation and regression and ultimately self destruction unless measures are taken for rectification.
A good human society is measures by what is its minimum standard of living as compared to its maximum standard of living or the gap between its richest and its poorest. Islamis about living a great life in this world in the hope of even better life in hereafter.
Women are 50% of human population, by taking them out of certain fields one is wasting a very big part human resource.
Child bearing and raised only takes 15-20 years for parents, what are they supposed to do after that? One may say look after their grandchildren but then what are their grandchildren's parents going to do with their time? So women do have plenty of free time and it is better they put it to some better use than go around for gasping with each other or create troubles. Idle hands are tool of satan as they say. May be this is why women are famous for gasping because they did not have any thing else to do.
I think we should try and see islam in context of real world as it is. Also laws made by old scholars of islam need to be looked at in their own situations and circumstances. May be many of them will not be fit for our situations and circumstances. This is why the quran gave us rules and principles with examples for legistations rather than list of law to implement.
Only such laws are acceptable as islamic that do not go against the spirit of the quran. People can make oppressive and suppressive or unjust and unfair laws in the name of islam but that does not mean they are islamic just because they have some big name behind them.
Thanks for giving me opportunity to explain things, may allah guide us and rewards us all.
atensari
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حضرت یوسف علیہ سلام سے محمد صللھ علیہ وسلم تک منہاج بدل چکا ہے شریعت میں رد و بدل ہو چکا ہے
شریعت محمدی میں شراب اور جوئے کا پہلا حکم آخری حکم سے یکسر مختلف ہے، کس حکم کی اہمیت زیادہ ہے، پہلے کی یا آخری کی. اسی طرح محمّد صللھ علیہ وسلم آخری نبی
ہیں، مسلمان پر ان کی شریعت فرض ہے نا کے پہلے رسولوں کی
حضرت یوسف نے اپنے بھائی کو دین الملک کے مطابق اپنے پاس روکا تھا جبکہ محمد صللھ علیہ وسلم کے بارے میں فرمایا گیا
هُوَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَرْسَلَ رَسُولَهُۥ بِٱلْهُدَىٰ وَدِينِ ٱلْحَقِّ لِيُظْهِرَهُۥ عَلَى ٱلدِّينِ كُلِّهِۦ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ ٱلْمُشْرِكُونَ 9:33
He it is who hath sent His apostle with the guidance and the true religion that he may make it prevail over all religions, although the associators may detest.
وہی تو ہے جس نے اپنے پیغمبر کو ہدایت اور دین حق دے کر بھیجا تاکہ اس (دین) کو (دنیا کے) تمام دینوں پر غالب کرے۔ اگرچہ کافر ناخوش ہی ہوں
اس دور میں ریاست کا دین، دین الملک سے دین الجمھور میں بدل گیا ہے، دین الحق اسی صورت میں غالب ہو گا جب دین الجمہور مغلوب ہو گا
خبر ہے سلطانیء جمہور کا غوغا کہ شر؟
تو جہاں کے تازہ فتنوں سے نہیں ہے باخبر!
ہوں، مگر میری جہاں بینی بتاتی ہے مجھے
جو ملوکیت کا اک پردہ ہو کیا اس سے خطر!
ہم نے خود شاہی کو پہنایا ہے جمہوری لباس
جب ذرا آدم ہوا ہے خود شناس و خود نگر
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atensari
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
You argument is that in situation or condition Islam give some relaxation, true. In a specific situation Muslim can eat Haram. When situation or condition required women may allowed to rule. I believe right now we do not have such situation and condition.
Do you have any prove from Quran and Hadeeth Women are allowed to rule in normal condition?
Does Islam allows Interests, Gambling, Drinking, nudity, vulgarity in any condition and situation?
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Star Gazer
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
It is an interesting .
First, whatever the world in general and Islamic countries in particular have to be who's fault it is ? who has been ruling these countries? MEN, so there goes your argument out of the window.
Allah has made rules and guidelines and he has created all equal, men and women. From the argument above it seems that all are convinced that men are superior, please, you are saying something not true and I for one can not believe that Allah can be anything but fair!
Men are responsible for the current situation in west just as much as their women are, how easily men put the blame on women, don't you think this is the sign of weakness? They have controlled the world for 2000 years and at the first sign of even considering women possibily in control they start to balme their Better Halves. Pathetic, and that is what will make sure that a change can come. Fairness my brothers should be top priority and hiding behind weak arguments and trying to drag religion into it to cause some sort of ........... is worse.
Bring it on my brothers!
First, whatever the world in general and Islamic countries in particular have to be who's fault it is ? who has been ruling these countries? MEN, so there goes your argument out of the window.
Allah has made rules and guidelines and he has created all equal, men and women. From the argument above it seems that all are convinced that men are superior, please, you are saying something not true and I for one can not believe that Allah can be anything but fair!
Men are responsible for the current situation in west just as much as their women are, how easily men put the blame on women, don't you think this is the sign of weakness? They have controlled the world for 2000 years and at the first sign of even considering women possibily in control they start to balme their Better Halves. Pathetic, and that is what will make sure that a change can come. Fairness my brothers should be top priority and hiding behind weak arguments and trying to drag religion into it to cause some sort of ........... is worse.
Bring it on my brothers!
I cannot believe what I am reading. When I wrote the same thing in another
thread.......Anyhow it is nice that people are realizing that thing and are
becoming aware that whatever people have written some 1100 years ago
from their own perspective is not the final thing either.
--- Margraet Thacher got Argentina in Falklands;
---Indra Gandi got East Pakistan from Pakistan;
---Merkel ruling over Germany;
--- BB gave all lists of Sikhs Freedom Fighters to India.
Although I am not against Female ruling because there is no such
clear-cut prohibition for that but:
"One who is living in the "Hilyaat"(ornaments & beauty), and cannot
even make her point clear in disputes........." may hinder
the Female from taking big and difficult decisions.
It is just matter of perception and acceptance that
"Women always Rule, albeit invisibly"
Veila Mast
Senator (1k+ posts)
Baba be Deena, Nice to hear you are Naive in every field!
Let me ask you what you know about Margret Thatcher?
What was motive behind occupation of island?
Why did she label her own people as "Enemy Within"?
What do you know THATCHERISM or REAGANISM?
What do you know about Milton Friedman?
....................
Secondly, what do you know about Indra Gandhi?
Why her son Sanjay Gandhi got killed in Air Crash?
Why Maneka Gandhi (Spouse of Sanjay) joined BJP or Bharat Janta Dal and left Congress?
First answer me these questions then I shall get back to Angela Mekel and BB.
When you make OPINION then you must have sufficient knowledge to support your argument and it's your problem that you are HIGHLY IGNORANT individual.
