A comprehensive look at the allegations against Asim Bajwa

Pathfinder

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
احمدنورانی کے عاصم باجوہ پر لگائے گئے الزامات پر ایک سوشل میڈیا ایکٹیوسٹ ملک خرم خان کا تفصیلی پوسٹمارٹم۔۔ ملک خرم خان نے اپنے تفصیلی تھریڈ میں بتایا کہ کیسے احمد نورانی نے ایک ریٹائرڈ بھارتی میجر کی سٹوری اٹھائی اور پھر ایک غیر معروف ویب سائٹ پر یہ سٹوری چھاپی ۔ کیسے اس سٹوری کو بنیاد بناکر عاصم باجوہ کے خلاف کمپین چلوائی گئی اور کمپین چلانے والے لوگ کون ہیں اور انکا بیک گراؤنڈ کیا ہے۔

ملک خرم خان نے اپنے تھریڈ میں عاصم باجوہ کے بھائیوں کے کاروبار کا بھی تفصیلی احاطہ کیا، انکے کاروبار کی حقیقت بھی بتائی اور ان کا پروفائل بھی بتایا۔


Credit goes to Malik Khurram.

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MHAMZA

Minister (2k+ posts)
When you have a huge jump in net value over a very short time without reason is indicative of corruption or black money..
Here there is a very gradual and natural growth of a business which is indicative of it being legit ...
Baber Ghori .MQM Minister for Ports and Shipping .has many franchises in the US anyone willing to share that story ..
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
یرہ کوئی پاگل کا بچہ ہوگا کہ کسی مشہور کمپنی کے 133 فرنچائز تو شروع کرے لیکن اپنی چین نہ کھولے۔۔۔ 133 فرنچائز کی بجائے تو انسان اپنی چین کھول سکتا ہے جو تھوڑے عرصے میں ساری دنیا میں پھیل سکتا ہے۔
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
Took me less than 5 minutes yesterday when it was posted here of looking around to rubbish this story, the author of the story and the website it was published on.

A new unknown website that went live on 22 Aug with all articles published by one author also on the same date without any actual proof.

But of course most of us because of our ratta education lack basic critical thinking skills, because if its published on legit looking website on the internet then it must be true!
 

bl0u81

Senator (1k+ posts)
Took me less than 5 minutes yesterday when it was posted here of looking around to rubbish this story, the author of the story and the website it was published on.

A new unknown website that went live on 22 Aug with all articles published by one author also on the same date without any actual proof.

But of course most of us because of our ratta education lack basic critical thinking skills, because if its published on legit looking website on the internet then it must be true!
You are only focusing on the website that is publisihing the material not the content.
May i ask what historic credibility does ICIJ had when they published Panama Papers? I guess it was the content that mattered not the publisher
 

Pathfinder

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You are only focusing on the website that is publisihing the material not the content.
May i ask what historic credibility does ICIJ had when they published Panama Papers? I guess it was the content that mattered not the publisher
ICIJ is made up of credible journalists from many nations. Here is the thing NO ONE IN THE WORLD CHALLENGES THEIR CREDIBILITY. Many criminal heavyweights have fallen because of them and their work. compare it noorani who is known merasi of kabaria tubbar. using gurv aryas work on a bogus outlet!

there is reason why massi mussebath blocked the two germans behind icij.
 
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ajaved

MPA (400+ posts)
Our invesitagatooooo journalists are actually cut paste journalists.. these so called journalists are nalaiq students ... jinko kahin admission ni milta wo MA journalism kar k sari qaum ko bewaqof banaty hain..
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
You are only focusing on the website that is publisihing the material not the content.
May i ask what historic credibility does ICIJ had when they published Panama Papers? I guess it was the content that mattered not the publisher
Of course it matters, no credible outlet will publish junk from some nathu pathu unknown with unverified and exaggerated claims and the material itself has been totally debunked in this thread.
 

bl0u81

Senator (1k+ posts)
ICIJ is made up of credible journalists from many nations. Here is the thing NO ONE IN THE WORLD CHALLENGES THEIR CREDIBILITY. Many criminal heavyweights have fallen because of them and their work. compare it noorani who is known merasi of kabaria tubbar. using gurv aryas work on a bogus outlet!

there is reason why massi mussebath blocked the two germans behind icij.
Umar Cheema was appointed to investigate on Pakistan section of Panama Papers.
How is he credible?
 

bl0u81

Senator (1k+ posts)
Of course it matters, no credible outlet will publish junk from some nathu pathu unknown with unverified and exaggerated claims and the material itself has been totally debunked in this thread.
When you have a content right in front of you, value is of that content not the publisher.
Publisher credibility only comes into play when they publishers like NY Times, Financial Times or The Guardian publishes news stating Our contact or Our sources say XYZ.
In this case this journalist has published company documents that has names of the family members of Asim Bajwa.
Why not form a JIT and allow both parties to put forward their argument and decide afterwards. Same way how it was done after Panama Papers
 

Caballero

Senator (1k+ posts)
Every real estate record (rental or ownership) in USA can be accessed and verified by any one online using the right name, date of birth, address and social security number. = Bajwa's sons and his wife has many

Every financial undertaking (loan, agreement, mortgage, partnership etc) in USA can be accessed and verified by one online using the right name, date of birth, address, social security number and tax identifier = Bajwa's sons and his wife has many

Bajwa's sons, brothers and his wife started many companies in Pakistan (data since removed from SECP website but people have archived) like in minning and other fields etc that directly relates to Asim Bajwa's then military assignment like Head of Command in Baluchistan.....

Bajwa business empire saw massive expansion as soon Asim Bajwa took senior military assignments.

unlike Panama Leaks, all documents in Noorani's report are authentic


Asim Bajwa claimed no asset under his sons or wife name in his rcent disclosure. This is exactly not the case!

Now, it is the responsibility of Imran Khan to instruct Shezad Akbar to investigate, report and share the reality of BajCo or else Supreme Court will have no option but to take a suo motto in order to equalize its image in Maryam Nawaz & Sarina Issa fiasco!

And, this is why Youtias are desperately trying to save "Abu Jaan" at official level.

NOTE:
this case is not going to just dissapear ....it is not being discussed in Pakistani media yet because of immense pressure but once CNN, Financial Times, Guardian or New York Times picks it.... all hell will be loose in Pakistani media too!
 
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Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
When you have a content right in front of you, value is of that content not the publisher.
Publisher credibility only comes into play when they publishers like NY Times, Financial Times or The Guardian publishes news stating Our contact or Our sources say XYZ.
In this case this journalist has published company documents that has names of the family members of Asim Bajwa.
Why not form a JIT and allow both parties to put forward their argument and decide afterwards. Same way how it was done after Panama Papers
So a JIT should be formed on any nathu pathu's frivolous claim? A what is the claim? Some of his brothers who have lived studied, lived and worked in the US for 30 years have slowly over the years developed franchises of Papa Jones Pizza, not even owners of Papa Jones, just franchisees? Not like bablu and dablu who were "students" living in high end multi million penthouses with 0 source of income and abbu G was Prime Minister laundering money through hundis owned by drug dealers through motorway projects.
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
Our corrupt mafia and RAW is working together to destabilize Pakistan.
And like all of the stupid plans hatched by pmlun they always backfire in their faces. This worthless article is only doing rounds within their own communities, everyone else with even half a living brain cell and totally rubbished them.
 

Caballero

Senator (1k+ posts)
It is interesting to note that x Interns are not defending Asim Bajwa on social media but only Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf is defending him at the highest party level. And, every one knows why ?

"Abu bachao muhim" ?
 

bl0u81

Senator (1k+ posts)
So a JIT should be formed on any nathu pathu's frivolous claim? A what is the claim? Some of his brothers who have lived studied, lived and worked in the US for 30 years have slowly over the years developed franchises of Papa Jones Pizza, not even owners of Papa Jones, just franchisees? Not like bablu and dablu who were "students" living in high end multi million penthouses with 0 source of income and abbu G was Prime Minister laundering money through hundis owned by drug dealers through motorway projects.
Again it is the content of the report that matters not the publisher and the content in the report seems very authentic.
 

Waqar_H

Senator (1k+ posts)
Again Boot Polishyas are trying too hard to defend their daddy.

In their bizzare logic any corruption done by Nooras & Zardaris is haram but anything done by their Foji Abba is not even up for discussion.