Who is wrong?

[Wake up Pak]

 

[jani1]

 

[jani1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1481752049834409998

 

[jani1]

یعنی غامدی چچا کے حساب سے سود بھی حرام نہیں۔۔ شاباشے۔۔۔​

ویسے لگتا ہے تم بھی ان کے گرویدہ ہوگئے ہو۔۔۔ بھئی تم ان سے متعلق چینل پر کیا لینے گئے تھے۔۔۔ اب ٹیزن ایکس کی تم سے کُٹی​

 

[Wake up Pak]

یعنی غامدی چچا کے حساب سے سود بھی حرام نہیں۔۔ شاباشے۔۔۔

Iss thread may Hazrat Isa aur mahdi kay nazool ka zikar hay uss per baat karo.
Sood per aik naya thread bana layna.

 

[jani1]

Iss thread may Hazrat Isa aur mahdi kay nazool ka zikar hay uss per baat karo.
Sood per aik naya thread bana layna.

ان میں جو تمہیں بہتر لگے اسے مانو۔۔ کیونکہ تم تو خواہشات پر چلتے ہو

 

[Citizen X]

One is talking with proof from the Quran. Other is talking what books with dubious origins and authors are saying.

Which one to believe, the Quran, undisputed word of God. Or books written by unknown men of dubious origins centuries later.

Couldn't be more clear cut and straight forward.

 

[Wake up Pak]

One is talking with proof from the Quran. Other is talking what books with dubious origins and authors are saying.

Which one to believe, the Quran, undisputed word of God. Or books written by unknown men of dubious origins centuries later.

Couldn't be more clear cut and straight forward.

Unfortunately, the mullah brigade has instilled in ignorant Muslim's brains that imam Mahdi and Hazrat Isa will come and lead the Muslims out of the misery.

 

[Wake up Pak]

ان میں جو تمہیں بہتر لگے اسے مانو۔۔ کیونکہ تم تو خواہشات پر چلتے ہو

Basically tumharay paas jawab nahi hay.

 

[Citizen X]

As the power of center and chaliphate started to move from the arabian pennisula towards Sham, you'll see more and more hadith also started to come from or about Sham instead of Mecca or Medina. Thats why the mehdi is also supposed to come down an ivory minaret somewhere in sham.

Enemies of Islam and the munafiqeen, corrupt rulers knew there was no way they could attack and alter the Quran. So they went after the next best thing and something which was a soft target. Hadith.

And unfortunately traditional Islam today is 90% hadith.

 

[NailaFirdous]

This guy is NOT listening to what Ghamdi is saying, these people are a disaster and have done a lot of damage to Islam.
Ghamdi mentioned the Quran and the said early books of Hadith - Muattah Imam Malik

 

[Citizen X]

Unfortunately, the mullah brigade has instilled in ignorant Muslim's brains that imam Mahdi and Hazrat Isa will come and lead the Muslims out of the misery.

And to be honest this is IMO one of the reasons why the Muslims really haven't progressed. They don't bother to make any real effort in any field. Why should they since all they have to do is chill and wait for this prophecy to come true. After all we will one day rule the world. So until that time lets just relax

 

[jani1]

Basically tumharay paas jawab nahi hay.

کیا تم میرے جواب کو مانو گے ؟

 

[Citizen X]

This guy is NOT listening to what Ghamdi is saying, these people are a disaster and have done a lot of damage to Islam.
Ghamdi mentioned the Quran and the said early books of Hadith - Muattah Imam Malik

Very well noted. I totally forgot about that. IF any hadith that can be the closet to the truth IF any such exist would come from Imam Malik. Whose own grand father was a sahabi and he was born around 90 hirji. So the closet to the date of the Prophets passing. And he was born and bred in Medina, never travelled outside of Medina save to Mecca. And grew up around sahaba and tabieen and taba tabieen. And his Al Muwatta has only 1700 hadith I think out of which only 600 can be directly related to the Prophet s.a.w.

And even Imam Malik said do not take any deen from the hadith, for they will snatch it from right under your hand. And as the centuries passed, instead of the number of hadith getting less they started to increase. Imam Bhukari is said to have collected 700,000 hadith with 7000 plus in his collection! Musnad Ahmad has around 50,000 hadith!

My question is how someone like Imam Malik with companions in his own family who lived closet to the time of the Prophet in the city of the Prophet surrounded by sahaba (maybe), tabieen tabi tabieen could in all his life could collect only 600 hadith directly attributed to the Prophet while someone living centuries later, some in Uzbekistan, some in Iran some in Balouchistan collect 100s of 1000s of hadith?

Where did all these new hudreds of thousands of hadith pop up from centuries later in places in Bhukhara, Sistan, Nishapour etc etc.

Something to ponder upon.

 

[Citizen X]

Basically tumharay paas jawab nahi hay.

I can only imagine the type of nonsense that is coming from that religious patwari. Let me guess more irrelevant videos of this Afghani bhaand and video dekho video dekho! lol

 

[taban]

قطع نظر اس ساری بحث کے ایک بات وضاحت طلب ہے کہ عیسٰی علیہ السلام خنزیر کو قتل کریں گے اس بات کا کیا مطلب ہے

 

[Wake up Pak]

کیا تم میرے جواب کو مانو گے ؟

Kiya zabardasti hay? Aqal aur shoor maanay ga tu zaroor manu ga

 

[Wake up Pak]

قطع نظر اس ساری بحث کے ایک بات وضاحت طلب ہے کہ عیسٰی علیہ السلام خنزیر کو قتل کریں گے اس بات کا کیا مطلب ہے

Iska koi matlab nahi ahadith say garhi hui baatain hain.

 

[jani1]

Kiya zabardasti hay? Aqal aur shoor maanay ga tu zaroor manu ga

مگر اس سے قبل تم کچھ بھی نہیں مانے۔۔
تو میں کیوں اپنا جواب خراب کروں، تمہارا ٹریک ریکارڈ دیکھتے ہوئے

 

[jani1]

قطع نظر اس ساری بحث کے ایک بات وضاحت طلب ہے کہ عیسٰی علیہ السلام خنزیر کو قتل کریں گے اس بات کا کیا مطلب ہے​

اچھا سوال ہے۔۔ مگر۔۔کیا یہ باتیں جاننے سے ہی ہم مسلمان بنیں گے۔۔؟اس تحقیق کے لیئے اپڑاں چچا عمران حسین ہے ناں

کیا ہم یہودی یا اہل تشیع ہیں کہ ہمیں انتظار ہے ۔۔ اور یہی ہماری زندگی کا مقصد ہے۔۔
بھئی جب وہ وقت آئے گا اس وقت ہم میں سے شاید کوئی بھی نہ ہو۔۔۔۔ ہم سے تو ہمارے آج کے اعمال کا پوچھا جائے گا۔۔

ان سے یہ سوال کرو۔۔ کہ یہ نماز کو کیوں نہیں مانتے ، فرض عبادات کو بھی یہ گپ شپ کیوں سمجھتے ہیں۔۔​