Zaid Hamid on Presidential System in Pakistan, Now or Never!

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
مجھے نہیں معلوم کہ زید حامد کو کیوں اینمی آف پبلک سا بنا دیا گیا ہے۔
تھوڑی روشنی ڈالیں گے ان کے کزب پر۔۔ تاکہ ہم بھی جان سکیں۔۔ ? ۔۔۔
یہ بندہ یوسف کذاب کا مرید اول ہے جس کو اس نے ابوبکر کا لقب دیا تھا۔ یوسف کذاب نے نبوت کا دعویٰ کیا تھا۔ یہ لال ٹوپی والا بندر آج بھی اس پر یقین رکھتا ہے اور مردود کذاب نے اس سے وعدہ کیا تھا کہ غزوہ ہند ہو گا اور یہ اس کی کمان کرے گا۔
 

kayawish

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Ninja log kam kar rahe hain presidential system par .. toda time lage.Magar problem yea hai ke presidential system main bhi saab power fauj aur ninjas ke pass hoon ge ?
 

jani1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
یہ بندہ یوسف کذاب کا مرید اول ہے جس کو اس نے ابوبکر کا لقب دیا تھا۔ یوسف کذاب نے نبوت کا دعویٰ کیا تھا۔ یہ لال ٹوپی والا بندر آج بھی اس پر یقین رکھتا ہے اور مردود کذاب نے اس سے وعدہ کیا تھا کہ غزوہ ہند ہو گا اور یہ اس کی کمان کرے گا۔
اچھا ؟
مجھے نہیں معلوم ان تفصیلات کا ۔۔
 

jani1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
May apni aqal say faysla karta hoon. ankhain bundh karaky kisi key bakwas ko accept nahi kar sakta.
ہاہاہا۔۔ منٹوں میں اپنی بات سے پھرنے والا۔۔۔
کوئی تمہاری بات پر یقین کیوں کرے گا۔۔

coming from you its just meaningless
آپ نے اسکو ٹھیک پہچانا۔۔ اپنی ہی بات سے منٹوں میں پھر گیا۔
یہ شاید بھول گیا تھا کہ یہاں ہم جیسے سنائپر بیٹھے ہیں، ۔?۔
 

HSiddiqui

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If Pakistan really interested in presidential system of governance then we need to pray for USA invasion like they did in Afghanistan?
Why did this system fail in Afghanistan?
We cannot predict anything, but if we look back, Pakistan was thriving till we had a Presidential system
 

samy99

Minister (2k+ posts)
WELL DONE ZAID HAMID. HE HAS SAID EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL SYSTEM WHICH I AM A BIG SUPPORTER OF FROM THE BEGINNING BECAUSE THIS SYSTEM IS FAILED IN PAKISTAN, THE SAME OLD FEUDAL LORDS AND CORRUPT POLITICIANS COME BACK BY BUYING THE VOTES. PTI HAS A MINORITY GOVT AND DON'T HAVE GOOD EXPERTS TO TAKE CARE OF THE ECONOMY AND IF IK WANTS TO TAKE ANY ACTION, THE CABINET THREATENED TO LEAVE THE GOVT.
IN THE ISLAMIC PRESIDENTIAL SYSTEM, PRESIDENT CAN APPOINT THE GOOD, EXPERIENCED TECHNOCRATS AND ALSO SOME EXPERIENCED MEMBERS FROM HIS PARTY IN HIS CABINET JUST LIKE GEN AYAUB KHAN WHICH WAS THE GOLDEN PERIOD OF PAKISTAN. AMERICA CONSPIRED AGAINST AYUB KHAN BECAUSE AMERICA DON'T LIKE TO SEE PAKISTAN STAND ON ITS FEET SO THEY BROUGHT Z A BHUTTO WHO DESTROYED THE ECONOMY, NATIONALISED AND BROKE THE NATION. ALL THE INDUSTRIALIST TOOK THEIR MONEY OUT OF THE COUNTRY BUT BHUTTO DID'T BRING THE LAND REFORMS BECAUSE HE WAS A BIG LANDLORD HIMSELF, SUCH A BIG HYPOCRITE AND RACIST WHO INTRODUCED THE SINDH CARD STILL, THERE IS NO FEDERAL TAX ON AGRICULTURAL INCOME SO IN THIS SYSTEM THE CORRUPT AND FEUDAL LORDS ARE THRIVING WITH THEIR INCOME AND PRESENCE IN THE PARLIAMENT AND DON'T WANT TO BRING ANY CHANGE AGAINST THEM.
HAVE A REFERENDUM FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL SYSTEM SO THE PRESIDENT CAN RULE WITH FULL AUTHORITY WITHOUT COMPROMISING WITH HIS MEMBERS IN THE PARTY.
ONLY THE CORRUPT, REJECTED, AND BANNED POLITICIANS ARE AFRAID OF THE PRESIDENTIAL SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T SEE ANY BENEFIT FOR THEMSELVES.
IMRAN KHAN IS A NATIONALIST AND A BIG PATRIOTIC PERSON, HE WANTS TO DO A LOT BUT HIS HANDS ARE TIED BY HIS PARTY AND ALLIES. HE SHOULD BE GIVEN A CHANCE FOR BEING A PRESIDENT AND ALL THE INSTITUTIONS SHOULD HELP HIM. IK MADE CANCER HOSPITAL IN LAHORE, KPK, AND MAKING ANOTHER ONE IN KARACHI BUT MIAN NS MADE A ITTEFAQ HOSPITAL, AND IT'S NOT FREE FOR THE PUBLIC, IT'S JUST PRIVATE FOR HIS FAMILY, HE LOOTED THE NATION AND RAN AWAY TO LONDON WITH HIS FAMILY THAT SHOWS THEIR CHARACTER AND MENTALITY.
SAME THING WITH ASIF ZARDARI, THE WHOLE NATION KNOWS WHAT HE DID WITH PAKISTAN?

IN THE MEANTIME, PTI HAS TO EXPAND THE TAX NET AND COLLECT THE TAXES FROM THE RICH AT A HIGHER RATE AND ALL OTHER TAXES ESPECIALLY GST, PROPERTY TAXES, CUSTOMS DUTIES AND WATCH THE SMUGGLING FROM IRAN AND AFGHANISTAN. EVERY SMALL AND BIG BUSINESS HAS TO CHARGE GST TO THE CUSTOMERS AND PAY TO FBR THROUGH AN AUTOMATION SYSTEM LIKE IN OTHER COUNTRIES, ALSO PROPERTY TAXES SHOULD BE LEVIED AT THE CURRENT MARKET PRICE NOT 40 YEARS OLD SYSTEM. I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES, COLLECTING THE TAXES PROPERLY AND HONESTLY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BEG IMF FOR ECONOMIC PROJECTS. TAKE A TOUGH STANCE ONCE FOR ALL IN THE NATIONAL INTEREST, MAKE THE CULTURE SO PEOPLE PAY THE TAXES, STOP PRINTING THE MONEY IT'S THE BIG CAUSE OF INFLATION. I HOPE PTI WILL PAY ATTENTION TO IT. OVERSEAS PAKISTANIS BURN THEIR BLOOD FOR THIS NATION SO SOMEONE SHOULD PAY ATTENTION.
 
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Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
We cannot predict anything, but if we look back, Pakistan was thriving till we had a Presidential system
Alhamdu Lillah we got NRO under the great president of Pakistan Sir Musharraf who is getting back ache treatment from Dubai via dance therapy.
What was role of a common person in the election of Hazrat Omar Ibne Khattab RA? Zero
Was he accountable to every subject of state? Yes
Hence without accountability all systems are same to me. U call them dictatorship or democracy.
 

HSiddiqui

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Alhamdu Lillah we got NRO under the great president of Pakistan Sir Musharraf who is getting back ache treatment from Dubai via dance therapy.
What was role of a common person in the election of Hazrat Omar Ibne Khattab RA? Zero
Was he accountable to every subject of state? Yes
Hence without accountability all systems are same to me. U call them dictatorship or democracy.
True, we must not go for the system by its name because it is practiced in the west, we must look at what is beneficial for our society.
 

Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Let me give you examples of elected presidents:
Presidents of Afghanistan
President of Iraq
Why presidential systems failed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Let me ask you, why the USA, Brazil, and many other country's presidential forms of government are working fine?