DISCUSSION ON THE BLASPHEMOUS MOVIE ON PROPHET SAW, Its REAL MOTIVES and Our RESPONSE

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: DISCUSSION ON THE BLASPHEMOUS MOVIE ON PROPHET SAW, Its REAL MOTIVES and Our RESPONCE

[h=5][/h][h=1]http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/09/13/168415/no-protest-before-benghazi-attack.html

No protest before Benghazi attack, wounded Libyan guard says[/h]
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A Libyan man holds a placard in English during a demonstration against the attack on the U.S. consulate that killed four Americans, including the ambassador, in Benghazi, Libya. | Ibrahim Alaguri/AP



Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/09/13/168415/no-protest-before-benghazi-attack.html#storylink=cpy[h=5]By Nancy A. Youssef and Suliman Ali Zway | McClatchy Newspapers[/h] BENGHAZI, Libya — A Libyan security guard who said he was at the U.S. consulate here when it was attacked Tuesday night has provided new evidence that the assault on the compound that left four Americans dead, including the U.S. ambassador to Libya, was a planned attack by armed Islamists and not the outgrowth of a protest over an online video that mocks Islam and its founder, the Prophet Muhammad.


The guard, interviewed Thursday in the hospital where he is being treated for five shrapnel wounds in one leg and two bullet wounds in the other, said that the consulate area was quiet – “there wasn’t a single ant outside,” he said – until about 9:35 p.m., when as many as 125 armed men descended on the compound from all directions.



The men lobbed grenades into the compound, wounding the guard and knocking him to the ground, then stormed through the facility’s main gate, shouting “God is great” and moving to one of the many villas that make up the consulate compound. He said there had been no warning that an attack was imminent.


“Wouldn’t you expect if there were protesters outside that the Americans would leave?” the guard said.


The guard, located by searching hospitals for people injured Tuesday night, said he was 27 years old but declined to give his name. He asked that the hospital where he is being treated not be identified for fear that militants would track him down and kill him. He said he was able to escape by telling one of the attackers that he was only a gardener at the compound. The attacker took him to the hospital, the guard said.


Libyan authorities told reporters Thursday that they had made four arrests in connection with the consulate assault, but they cautioned that leaders of the group blamed for the attack, an Islamist organization known as Ansar al Shariah, denied that they had given the order to attack. But the guard’s tale suggested that whoever ordered the assault had been able to call upon a large number of people to carry out what appeared to be an organized attack.


Wanis al Sharif, the deputy interior minister responsible for Libya’s eastern region, which includes Benghazi, told a group of local reporters that in addition to the four people under arrest, authorities were monitoring others for possible involvement in the attack.


“There is a group under our control, and there is another we are monitoring,” Sharif said.


Sharif said that Ansar al Shariah’s leaders had suggested that those carrying the group’s flag during the assault were rogue members acting on their own.


“They called me and told me you have wronged us,” Sharif said. “They told me that there may be individual acts.”


Ansar al Shariah – Partisans of Islamic law – which is based in Benghazi, is one of the largest Islamic extremist groups now operating in Libya, according to an analysis published Wednesday by Aaron Zelin of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.


The shadowy organization is led by Muhammad Zahawi and maintains "online connections" to a similarly named group in Tunisia. A unit, or katiba, based in Derna, an eastern town from which extremists made their way to fight U.S. forces in Iraq, is commanded by a former Guantanamo prison detainee, Abu Sufayan bin Qumu, according to Zelin.


Where Sharif’s findings would fit in the U.S. investigation into the death of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the other Americans remained unclear. But the guard’s tale suggests that there were many more than four people involved in the attack.


The attack itself, the guard said, was immediate and bold, initiated by a group of men who approached the compound and lobbed grenades over the wall. Just behind them were scores of men, shooting wildly and yelling “God is great.”


The guard, who said he’d been hired seven months ago by a British company to protect the compound, said the first explosion knocked him to the ground, and he was unable to fire his weapon. Four other contracted guards and three members of Libya’s 17th of February Brigade, a group formed during the first days of the anti-Gadhafi uprising and now considered part of Libya’s military, were protecting the outside perimeter of the compound.


After storming through the gate, the guard said, the men rushed into one of the compound’s buildings, meeting no resistance. The guard did not say whether that was the building where the ambassador was.


Thirty minutes later, the guard said, he realized he was about to lose consciousness and asked one of the attackers for help, saying he was merely a gardener at the compound. The man agreed to drive him to the hospital. As they were leaving, the guard said he saw the attackers enter a second villa on the compound.


Stevens and consulate computer expert Sean Smith are believed to have been overcome by smoke in the main consulate building. Two other State Department employees were shot and killed by the invaders at another building on the compound where Americans had sought refuge. The two men, both former Navy SEALs who were working as security contractors, were identified by family members as Glen A. Doherty, 42, a native of Winchester, Mass., and Tyrone Woods, 41, of Imperial Beach, Calif. At least three other embassy employees were wounded.


A Libyan emergency room doctor who treated Stevens said Libyan security guards brought him to the hospital at 1 a.m., his lips black and his body reeking of smoke.


He was officially pronounced dead at 1:45 a.m. from smoke inhalation and carbon monoxide poisoning, but the doctor who tried to revive him, Ziad Bouzaid, 31, said Stevens was dead on arrival. Bouzaid said the body bore no other signs of injury.


The guard’s tale is consistent with a version offered Wednesday by the man who had leased the compound to the United States.


Standing outside the fire-gutted compound, Mohammad al Bishari said the attack began with assailants carrying assault rifles, rocket-propelled grenades and the black flag of Ansar al Shariah moving from two directions against the compound.


The FBI has launched its own investigation into what took place, and two American destroyers, the USS Laboon and the USS McFaul, were expected to take up positions by early next off the coast near Benghazi in what many here interpreted as preparations for a possible retaliatory attack. On Wednesday, President Barack Obama promised justice in the case.


Meanwhile, fallout continued Thursday from anger over an online video that Muslims said denigrated their religion.


In Sanaa, Yemen, demonstrators protesting the video tried to storm the U.S. Embassy, making it past an initial security line but failing to make it to any of the main embassy compound buildings. Demonstrators burned tires and spray-painted “Death of America” on the wall surrounding the compound before they were repulsed by Yemeni security forces firing tear gas and warning shots.


No embassy staff was injured, but four demonstrators were killed and as many as 30 others injured.


Yemeni President Abed Rabbo Mansour Hadi quickly condemned the attack and vowed to punish those responsible for it.


Unrest continued as well Thursday in Cairo, where on Tuesday protesters breached the embassy compound’s wall and tore down and burned the American flag. Protests continued Thursday, even though Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi, speaking publicly on the attacks for the first time, condemned them.


No one has claimed responsibility for the consulate assault, something that perhaps is unsurprising in this part of Libya, where Stevens was a popular ambassador representing a nation many here believed saved Benghazi from a massacre during the rebellion against toppled Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi. Gadhafi’s tanks were on the edge of the city, preparing to overrun it, when NATO jets began their bombing campaign March 19, 2011.


Indeed, throughout the day Thursday, Libyans nationwide held rallies in support of the ambassador, carrying signs in Arabic and at times broken English offering their support.


“Sorry People of America, this not the Pehavior our Islam and Profit,” one read.


A young man in Benghazi carried a sign that read: “Chris Stevens was a friend to all Libyan people”


Zway reported from Benghazi, Libya, and Youssef from Cairo. McClatchy special correspondents Adam Baron from Sanaa, Yemen, and Mel Frykberg from Cairo contributed.



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M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: DISCUSSION ON THE BLASPHEMOUS MOVIE ON PROPHET SAW, Its REAL MOTIVES and Our RESPONCE

No doubt this is Jews conspiracy but not just against Muslims . Muslim are just playing a sub part through violent protest against christian US and Europe govt. Jews use to adopt such tact to tight nose of christian rulers and shrewdly use Muslim to keep hot the pan of WOT.
Can anyone notice that US foreign secretary react more furiously on this issue rather than khadmein herbew shareef

that video was made by a Coptic Christian fundamentalist in California and then uploaded on youtube. So much for your "yahoodi sazish"

 

Lushahz

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri calls for OIC moot on blasphemous film !

The only man who is working hard to defend & promote Islam in all the world.....Hats off to you Sir Dr. Tahir ul Qadri.....
 

Lushahz

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri calls for OIC moot on blasphemous film !

یہ جعلی شن پیر (میرا مطلب آپ سمجھ گیے ہونگے) کچھ نہیں کرنے والا۔ میں اس کو اس وقت سے جانتا ہوں جب یہ اتفاق مسجد میں خطیب بنا تھا۔ اسکے خواب اور اس کے جھوٹ جو جانتے ہیں ان کے مطابق یہ تو مجرم ہے۔ نہ یہ عالم، نہ یہ پروفیسر، نہ یہ ڈاکٹر نہ یہ مفتی اور نہ یہ شیخ۔ اسکو شن پیر کہو۔
Brother agar aap uss waqt say jantay hotay tau yeh baat na kartay.....kiounkay uss waqt say jo log saath hain unhon nay jo suna uss ko aaj daikh bhi rahain hain.....Minhaj ul Quran say barri koi religious organization nahi hai aaj iss daur mein.....jiss kay tahat
Gosha e Daroodpbuh jahan 24 hours Nabi e Kareem pbuh pay darood o salam parrha jata hai
Minhaj University which is chartered
More than 570 schools and colleges
Almost 1000 books and 7000 speeches
Minhaj Welfare foundation
Aghosh is the biggest project of Pakistan to adopt and educate the orphans

agar aisi koi aur misal hai tau plz zaroor share karain.........:)
 

Lushahz

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Tahir ul qadri - Clarifications Please?? Or is he a hypocrite of extreme nature?

are you still asking? dude he is a pakka munafiq, go through some of his youtube videos.
Go through some of his youtube Videos.....Shabash Sedqal bhai.....********** tau wo hain jinhon nay unn videos say apna matlab nikalnay ki nakam koshish ki hai....lekin InshaaALLAH wo kabhi kamyab nahi hongay....
Youtube pay Dr. Sahib ki speeches ka aik zakheera mojood hai....wo daikhain aur apna Eman taza karain.....Hamesha doosron ki achaion ko daikhna chahiaye.....na kay uss ghalat propoganda ko jo kiya gya ho..........
 

Lushahz

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Tahir ul qadri - Clarifications Please?? Or is he a hypocrite of extreme nature?

They caught him in one day.....But our nation is still looking around to find some ground.....

No doubt he is Muslim Scholar from Indo Pak prospective.

But he is a lier , that we could ignore but western could not.....

They r not drunk nation now.....We may be.....
Raaz bhai aap nay bilkul theak farmaya wo drunk nahi hain iss liaye tau Dr. Qadri west mein jahan bhi jatay hain log hathon haath unn ka isteqbal kartay hain....unhain World Economic forum2011 mein bulatay hain, 2012 kay peace noble prize ka candidate banatay hain, UN unn ko special consultative authority manti hai.....Peace and humanity conference mein tamam mazahib kay log shamil hotay hain....wo waqaee drunk nahi hain....shayad hum hi drunk hain...jinn ko unn ki contributions nazar nahi aa rahi hain.....:)
 

Lushahz

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Tahir ul qadri - Clarifications Please?? Or is he a hypocrite of extreme nature?

He is known to make comments and statement emotionally and then he come back with his explanations and totally change the meaning of what he said earlier. I cam him Mr. 180 degree Turn.
He hasn't deny what he said earlier....Perhaps you haven't seen the video above posted by Mansur..........
 

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: DISCUSSION ON THE BLASPHEMOUS MOVIE ON PROPHET SAW, Its REAL MOTIVES and Our RESPONCE

Sam Bacile is the director of movie who is a israel based jew...


http://www.mediaite.com/online/who-...sparked-violent-protests-currently-in-hiding/

Sam Bacile is a FAKE name as numerous news reports have proven (watch the Rachel Maddow Show video I shared!) and he is not a Jew either!

read this too http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...le-is-not-israeli-and-not-a-real-name/262290/
 

Lushahz

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Tahir ul qadri - Clarifications Please?? Or is he a hypocrite of extreme nature?

This is one sharp fake sheikh. Any video which shows his true identity is quickly taken off youtube with claims about copy right from his minhajul quran. I recall reading a book called shunpeer when I was young - fake peer says the reason he calls himself shunpeer is because he is shaitani peer. I hope it is still available in Pakistan. But remember people who know him from the time when he was a notary public know what a liar he is.
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Desienglishman

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri calls for OIC moot on blasphemous film !

Brother agar aap uss waqt say jantay hotay tau yeh baat na kartay.....kiounkay uss waqt say jo log saath hain unhon nay jo suna uss ko aaj daikh bhi rahain hain.....Minhaj ul Quran say barri koi religious organization nahi hai aaj iss daur mein.....jiss kay tahat
Gosha e Daroodpbuh jahan 24 hours Nabi e Kareem pbuh pay darood o salam parrha jata hai
Minhaj University which is chartered
More than 570 schools and colleges
Almost 1000 books and 7000 speeches
Minhaj Welfare foundation
Aghosh is the biggest project of Pakistan to adopt and educate the orphans

agar aisi koi aur misal hai tau plz zaroor share karain.........:)

Aur missal Zardari hay- most corrupt person on earth and is president of Pakistan with bundles of support from jahil awam.
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Tahir ul qadri - Clarifications Please?? Or is he a hypocrite of extreme nature?

Raaz bhai aap nay bilkul theak farmaya wo drunk nahi hain iss liaye tau Dr. Qadri west mein jahan bhi jatay hain log hathon haath unn ka isteqbal kartay hain....unhain World Economic forum2011 mein bulatay hain, 2012 kay peace noble prize ka candidate banatay hain, UN unn ko special consultative authority manti hai.....Peace and humanity conference mein tamam mazahib kay log shamil hotay hain....wo waqaee drunk nahi hain....shayad hum hi drunk hain...jinn ko unn ki contributions nazar nahi aa rahi hain.....:)

Some people call Mush for lectures , some call Salman Rushdi .......some call Wilder and listen them.....

Is this the criteria ......??????

May be for u......

Yes u are really drunk and could not find the truth and false.

Qadri sahib has the ability to change truth into false and false into truth , u could not judge it....
 

rehman1978

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: US-ISRAEL Produces Blasphemy MOVIE Against PROPHET MOHAMMAD (SAW). EXTREME INSULT. All records broken.

Wake Up means speak in favor of Prophet Mohammad pbuh instead of acting like a peaceful moron who has no respect, no moral nothing no humanity and who is unaware of Status of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh)

Lunatins like you are devoid of any humanity and should be locked up in looney bins
 

rehman1978

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: U.S. Ambassador killed in Libya in Response of Blasphemy Movie that Insulted Prophet Mohammad (SAAW). 9/11/2012

Do you condemn Blasphemy Movie against Islam for the sake of love and affection to our Beloved Prophet Mohammad pbuh ?
I repeat. DO YOU?

Blasmphemy law is creation of ZIA to provide fuel to looneys like you.
 

mohsinzaheer

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Imran Khan only and first muslim leader called upon OIC to take action against blasphemous movie ( how long before NS will do the same ? i bet 1 day )

 

sergeant

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
گستاخانہ فلم ، انگلش گورنمنٹیں اور مسلم ا*

گستاخانہ فلم کے منظر عام پر آنے کے بعد امریکن گورنمنٹ نے یہ بیان دیا ہے کہ اس میں امریکن گورنمنٹ کا کوئی رول نہیں، میڈیا آزاد ہے، فری آف ایکسپریشن ہے، اور فلم میکر کے بارے میں متضاد انکشافات کئے جارہے ہیں، کہ وہ اسرائیلی نژاد امریکن ہے، کبھی اسے مصری عیسائی بنایا جا رہا ہے اور اس فلم میں کام کرنے والوں کے مختلف بیانات جو انگلش اخباروں میں شائع ہوئے ہیں اور انکے مطابق یہ فلم ڈیزرٹ وارئیر کے نام سے بنی تھی،کچھ اسکا نام ڈیزرٹ سٹارم بتا رہے ہیں، اور کچھ کا بیان ہے کہ پورا سکرپٹ شو نہیں کیا گیا اور فلم میں ڈبنگ ہوئی ہے اور بعد میں اسے انوسینٹ آف مسلمز کا نام دیا گیا ہے،ہمارا پرابلم یہ نہیں کہ کون میکر ہے، بلکہ یہ ہے کہ اس فلم سے مسلم امہ کی دل آزاری ہوئی ہے اور ان حکومتوں نے نوٹس کیوں نہیں لیا، اس ساری سیچویشن کو دیکھنے کے بعد چند پوائنٹ ذہن میں آتے ہیں جو ا سکی اصل وجہ ہیں!
ایک دو دھائیوں سے یہ دیکھنے میں آیا ہے کہ ہر پانچ چھ مہینے کے بعد کو ئی ایسا ایکشن کیا جاتا ہے جس سے مسلم امہ کی دل آزاری ہوتی ہے، کبھی قرآنی اوراک کو جلایا جاتا ہے، کبھی خاکے بنانے کی مذموم حرکت کی جاتی ہے، کبھی کچھ کبھی کچھ، اور جب مسلمان سراپا احتجاج ہوتے ہیں تو انگلش گورنمنٹس اسے آزاد میڈیا کہ کر اپنے آپکو سائیڈ لائن کرتی ہیں، حالانکہ مسلمانوں نے کبھی بھی ان مذاہب پر کوئی ایسا وار نہين کیا جن مذاہب کے پیروکار یہ سب کچھ کر رہے ہیں،مسلمان حضرت موسی اور حضرت عیسی علیہ سلام کو اللہ کا نبی مانتے ہیں اور انکے بارے میں کسی قسم کی تو ہین کا سوچ بھی نہیں سکتے۔
دوسری بات یہ کہ ویسٹ اور امریکہ یہ بات اچھی طرح جانتے ہیں کہ کسی بھی ایسی گھناؤنی حرکت پر مسلم امہ دو تین احتجاج کرتی ہے، اپنے اپنے ممالک میں توڑ پھوڑ کرتے ہین اور خاموش ہو جاتے ہیں، اس سے ذیادہ کچھ نہین ہوتا،اس لئے انہین کوئی خاص پریشانی نہیں ہوتی۔
ویسٹ یہ بھی جانتا ہے کہ مسلم امہ کے پاس احتجاج کے علاوہ کچھ ہے بھی نہیں، نہ تو یہ اپنا کوئی سوشل میڈیا نیٹورک بنا سکتے ہیں کہ ہمارا سوشل نیٹ ورک یوز کرنا چھوڑ دیں گے جس سے ویسٹ کو لاس ہوگا، وہ یہ بھی جانتے ہیں کہ ویسٹ اور امریکہ انکی کمزوری ہے، انہوں نے ہر چیز کے لئے ویسٹ کو ہی دیکھنا ہے۔خواہ وہ ایمونیشن ہو، ٹرانسپورٹ ہو، الیکٹرانکس ہو یہ انہوں نے ویسٹ اور امریکن سے ہی لینے ہیں،
ویسٹ یہ بھی جانتا ہے کہ مسلم امہ کئی فرقوں میں منقسم ہے، اور ان میں وہ اتحاد اور یگا نگت نہیں ہے جو اسلام کے آغاز میں تھا، وہ یہ بھی جانتے ہیں کہ یہ مسلم امہ خود اپنے نبی کی تعلیمات پر عمل سے قاصر ہے،اور ایک مثال آپ یہ دیکھ لیں کہ اس گستاخانہ فلم کے منظرعام پر آنے کے بعد بھی کئی مسلم ممالک ٹس سے مس نہیں ہوئے۔ وہاں کوئی احتجاج نہیں کیا گیا۔
سوال پیدا ہوتا ہے کہ اسکو کیسے روکا جائے، پہلا طریقہ یہ ہے کہ جب قوموں میں برابری ہوتی ہے اور اینٹ کا جواب پتھر کا فلسفہ اسے روکتا ہے، اب ہمارا ویسٹ کے ساتھ برابری والا معاملہ نہیں، ہم اپنے بچوں کو اچھی تعلیم دلوانے کے لئے بھی یورپ بھیجنے پر مجبور ہیں، ہم ہر قسم کی ٹیکنالوجی کے لئے بھی انکے آگے ہاتھ پھیلائے ہوئے ہیں، تو ایسی سیچویشن میں ہم ویسٹ سے کوئی بات منوا نہیں سکتے ہاں مان سکتے ہیں۔
دوسرا طریقہ یہ ہے کہ پوری مسلم امہ ایک عہد کرلے کہ کوئی مسلم کنٹری ویسٹ کی پراڈکٹ استعمال نہیں کرے گا، تو اس سے ویسٹ اور امریکہ کو اقتصادی جھٹکا لگ سکتا ہے اور وہ یہ سوچنے پر مجبور ہو سکتے ہیں کہ انکی ناراضگی سوائے خسارا کے کچھ نہیں لہذا وہ ایسی ایکٹوٹیز سے پرہیز کرنے اور لوگوں کو ایسے ایکشن کرنے سے روکیں گے،
پاکستان کے ٹی وی چینلز پر سیاستدان اور کچھ سکالر حضرات بیٹھ کر یہ سوچ رہے ہیں کہ او آئی سی کو کوئی لائحہ عمل طے کرنا چاہیئے کہ آئندہ ایسی کوئی حرکت نہ ہو ،، یہ سارے ٹوپی ڈرامے ہیں، تمام مسلم امہ کے حکمران ویسٹ کو ناراض نہیں کرنا چاہتے، کیونکہ انکے اقتدار کی ضمانت امریکہ دیتا ہے، بے شک منہ سے بکواس کرتے رہیں لیکن حقیقت یہ ہی ہے،
اسکا باعزت اور خودارانہ حل ایک ہی ہے کہ اپنے آپکو اس لیول پر لے جاؤ، جہاں ابھی ویسٹ بھی نہیں پہنچا، یعنی نبی پاک صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کی تعلیمات کا اپنے کاروبار ذندگی میں عملی نفاذ، تعلیم کا ہائیسٹ سٹینڈر پوری مسلم امہ کے لئے،ہر قسم کی ٹیکنالوجی ہوم میڈ، اور وقت کے ساتھ ساتھ اس میں امپرومنٹ، کیونکہ جب ہم اسلامی تعلیمات کا عملی نفاذ کر لیں گے تو ہماری ساری کوتاہیاں خود بخود ہی ختم ہو جاتی ہیں، کیونکہ اسلام ترقی کی ضمانت ہے!!!!!
 

Bangash

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: گستاخانہ فلم ، انگلش گورنمنٹیں اور مسلم ا&

یہی بہتر طریقه ہے کہ پوری مسلم امہ ایک عہد کرلے کہ کوئی مسلمان ویسٹ کی پراڈکٹ استعمال نہیں کرے گا اگر حکومت میں ایماندر لوگ ہیں تو حکومتی سطح پر بھی ان پروڈکٹ، اگریمنٹ کا بائیکاٹ کردے جہاں سے بھی ان کے ممالک کو افراد کو ایک پیسہ بھی ہماری وجھ سے منافع ہوتا ہے​
 

pkpatriot

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: گستاخانہ فلم ، انگلش گورنمنٹیں اور مسلم ا&

This Problem cannot e solved till the rulers of Muslim countries are not united for this cause...
and we all know the priorities, they behave just like slaves of WEST..
un fortunately these rulers are selected and elected by us.

Beside protesting this shameful act of WEST, in the long run we should also get rid of RULERS OF MUSLIM COUNTRIES which are slaves of WEST..
 

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