Pakistan Army - How True Is The Statement That Pakistan Army Is Punjabi Dominated?

[Aijazahmed]

I am a firm believer in "Assimilation after Immigration". For the most when people immigrate to different country, they can only succeed if they assimilate with the locals. Go to France, Germany or Uk the immigrants those who have assimmilate are successful as compared to others. We immigrated from UP and settled in Pindi and Chakwal, but our forefathers made sure we became part of that land, hence we have no problem calling ours Punjabis because we are and proud of it.

Since we have become divided on the basis of ethnicity and a religion and then subdivided into sects, we need a visionary leader who just comes to power and abolishes the provinces and leaves us with districts only. Having said this MQM and its supporters have done such a disservice to our country, its going to be really hard for government to hold us together.

"Assimilation after Immigration"?????????????????

Ha,Ha...

Living with girl friend without marriage?????????? Is that "Assimilation after Immigration"? that you are proud of? and a firm believer of? as you just said.

A lot of, lot of BS, just because of the hatered in your soul against Urdu speakers of Karachi.........

 

[mohibbewatan]

the problem is that pak army is running under philosophy of non pukhtoons and that is why afghanistan and tribal pukhtoons r suffering. stop supporting terrorist as proxies nobody would raise question of punjabi army

That's EXACTLY what i meant Wahab, we love to blame others for our sufferings and hence all the blame on Punjabis SIMPLY because they are in majority. This thread is a proof that we have had SEVERAL Pushtoon head of states, Army generals and even DG ISI and nothing changed in terms of policies, using proxies etc etc so my point is why blame Punjabis when even Pushtoons couldn't do much?
Don't get me wrong bro, Pushtoons for me are as much respectable as any Punjabi but i stand corrected that we find it easy to blame others. We all blame each other for our national problems and collectively blame America and West for all of our problems.

 

[gazoomartian]

What are you trying to prove....this "sobaiyat" is just killing the country. For God sake call yourself "Pakistani" thats enough.

Read carefully yaar. Thread is proving that claim by some that generals have been mostly Punjabi, is wrong.

He is not creating any discrimination or subaayiat

 

[gazoomartian]

we in East Pakistan always thought there was no Generals except Punjabis (cry)(cry)

Boy! Have we been wrong or what?

UKPakistani, why didn't you post this in 1969 man? sheeeeeeeeeesh

Since the country split based on the wrong information that generals were all Punjabis, lest reclaim East. I would love to move back to Dacca

All in favor please say YEY

All not in favor please shut up lol

 

[gazoomartian]

No generals were Bihari or Bengali (cry)(cry)(cry)(cry)

 

[Aijazahmed]

No generals were Bihari or Bengali (cry)(cry)(cry)(cry)

chotey qad ka kala kaloota begali ya bihari doesn't desrve to be an Army General in Pakistan. Gazoo Bahi!!! Aap rotey raheye.......

 

[AUSTRALIA]

NICE one ....

 

[AUSTRALIA]

Read carefully yaar. Thread is proving that claim by some that generals have been mostly Punjabi, is wrong.

He is not creating any discrimination or subaayiat

yes but they need to give them visible JOBS (task) ...

 

[UKPakistani]

kala kaloota

Sounds like this guy

 

[AUSTRALIA]

I have a question to ask, we are told again and again that Punjab is 60% of Pakistan than why not 60% army Generals are from Punjab ?

No need of that ,,,,

 

[gazoomartian]

chotey qad ka kala kaloota begali ya bihari doesn't desrve to be an Army General in Pakistan. Gazoo Bahi!!! Aap rotey raheye.......

..........................:lol::lol:

 

[quraysh]

IF ANY BODY REMEMBER 1971 DAHAKA FALL WILL SHOW YOU BENGALIES CALLING EVERY (FOJJI) SOLIDER PUNJABI AND THEIR HATE TOWARDS PUNJABIES WAS UNBELIEVABLE. SH. MUJEEB USED TO CURSE PUNJABIES ALL THE TIME. ANTI PUNJABI PROPAGANDA WAS DESIGNED IN INDIA AND IMPLEMENTED BY SO CALLED MUHAJIRS ( PANAHGEERS ) FROM KARACHI. ALL PUNJABI PANAHGEERS FROM INDIA WHO WENT TO SIND, BALOCHISTAN AND SARHAD WERE EXPELLED AND LOOTED BY LOCALS. BUHUTO PLAYED A GOOD ROLL TO EXPLOIT ANTI PUNJABI FEELINGS. IN REALITY PAKISTAN WAS HIGHJACKED BY PUNAHGEERS AND WAS CORRUPTED AND OVER PAPULATED BY THEM. (ATTAY MAY NAMAK KAY BARABER ASLI PUNJABI) IS IN PAKISTAN. NOT A SINGLE REAL PUNJABI MADE GENERALS OR UPPER RANK OFFICER. THE WHOLE MILITARY IS FULL OF PATHWARIES, PATHANS, PANAHGEERS ( RANA, ARIEN, LOHARS FROM INDIA) MATARWA'S AND OTHERS. REAL PAKISTANIS WHO GAVE SHELTERS AND HOUSES TO PANAHGEERS ARE THROWN OUT OF THEIR OWN PROPERTIES BY CORRUPT AND DISGRACEFUL OVER POPULATED PANAHGEER PIGS. REAL PUNJABIES ARE HIGHLY DISCRIMINATED BY PANAHGEER **** PUNJABI( BOLNAYWALAY )FROM INDIA OR SO CALLED MUHAJIRS.SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PUNJABIES IN MILITARY ARE PUNAHGEERS ( INDIAN PANDOO PUNJABIES) FROM INDIA-------THATS WHY PAKISTAN IS NOT PAKISTAN BUT PUNAHGEERISTAN. JINAH AND LIAQAT AND AGHA KHAN WERE SHIA'S AND WANTED TO JOIN SHIA IRAN. THEY DESTROYED PUNJAB, KASHMIR AND BENGAL TO MAKE SHIA PAKISTAN---THAT'S WHY BOTH WERE KILLED. NOTHING HAPPENED TO SIND, BALOCHISTAN, SARHAD. ALL THE BLOOD WAS SHED BOTH SIDES WERE PUNJABIES, KASHMIRIES AND SOME BENGALIES. I PROPOSE NEW NAME OF PAKISTAN IS PANAHGEERISTAN.(yapping)(yapping)(yapping)(cry)(cry)(cry)[hilar][hilar][hilar](thumbsdown)(thumbsdown)(thumbsdown)

 

[In flames]

There is no doubt that Pakistani army is by character a punjabi army and which promtes nationalism rather than islamism,this is why only Musharraf get rebuked but a punjabi traitor like Kiyani is praised in the media these are the double standards which shows that this punjabism exist.

 

[UKPakistani]

What a comical post. Zia, Keramat, Tikka Khan and Janjua are all Punjabis.

Also, what's even more hilarious is that you're saying the word Mohajir means immigrant, therefore, it applies to anyone who migrated.

The word was invented.

Clearly YOU have NO idea of what the word means or where it came from. Or who it describes.........

WHO inventd it then ? and when ? then we will deal with the rest of your diatribe. But fisrt I would like YOU to justify what you said there. about the "The Word was invented"

Just tell me by whom and when and what is the background of the word "mohajir" and where it comes from

PS I note you didnt include Musharaff in your list of "Punjabis" he was born in Delhi............. Is he a "Mohajir" ? Show me his connection to Karachi, because he lived in Turkey Karachi and Lahore.......... then Military. What does he have to do with "Mohajirs"

and Gen Karamat was born in Karachi to Urdu Speaking parents .............. How is he Punjabi what is HIS connection to Punjab ?

Whats YOUR definition


PPS It seems you have been taking lessons from @mehwish_ali is writing whole thesis on one point

Once you have answered that I will show you how moving from Indian Punjab to Pakistani Punjab is still seen as Migration, and why ALL the millions who moved are just as much "Mohajir" as anyone else

Here is a BIG clue, The Holy Prophet PBUH moved from Mecca to Madina .................... "Muhajiroon"




finally for now..........

even if I accept that Zia, Keramat, Tikka Khan and Janjua are all punjabi, still count the numbers....... percentage wise......

@gotti

Since you wrote a whole thesis on the subject, it seems you cannot respond to what I asked in this post.

Care to reply !!

 

[UKPakistani]

we in East Pakistan always thought there was no Generals except Punjabis (cry)(cry)

Boy! Have we been wrong or what?

UKPakistani, why didn't you post this in 1969 man? sheeeeeeeeeesh

Since the country split based on the wrong information that generals were all Punjabis, lest reclaim East. I would love to move back to Dacca

All in favor please say YEY

All not in favor please shut up lol

Yar like you I too plead ignorance. My "interest" in this does not date back decades, but years..............

Part of MY journey to discover who I am. But I know one thing.........

I am as big a MOHAJIR as anyone else who claims to be one...............

But despite and inspite of that I am and will die a Pakistani, No more, and No less.

The "Mohajirs" of Pakistan moved from one part of the INDIAN sub-continent to another........ where Muslims prevail in numbers.

I moved thousands of miles further to the land of the kuffar, into a tiny minority, within a minority........ am I a Mohajir,
more so than someone who was born in Pakistan and will never go out of it except maybe on visits and die there ?
I find it strange that they are offended by my saying they are NOT Mohajirs, and I am .............

You get my drift I hope !!

 

[rana14801]

the Britishers were not fool to enrol out of few districts and Rajputes to army. these mentioned produce brave fighting soldiers and lot.for ur kind information FIRST EIGHT NISHAN E HAIDERS BELONGS TO RAJPUTES. it is just not a co incidence.​now what is happening about enrolment policy is the result of this type of objections made by people that this army is a Punjabi army.This enrolment will surely bring down the efficiency of Pakistan army but it may shut the mouths of these making such objections. to me these people r damaging Pak army indirectly and serving the purpose of our enemies.

 

[Qalandari]

Since YOU know what a Punjabi is, why don't you tell us who is and is not a Punjabi ?

As regards Rajputs

The Rajput population and the former Rajput states are found spread through much of the subcontinent, particularly in north, west and central India. Populations are found in Rajasthan, Saurashtra, Uttar Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh, Haryana, Jammu, Punjab, Uttarakhand, Madhya Pradesh and Bihar.

Now why don't you convince me that all these are Punjabi ? or part of Punjab

PS Gen Kayani is the FIRST C in C born AFTER Pakistan came into being.

What ?

I still didn't get the definition of Punjabi ?

Help me!

 

[Qalandari]

ALHAMDULILLAH, no Saraiki was ever a chief!

 

[aftab818]

another important fact is that punjabis and pakhtuns of KPK go to the armed forces,while sindhis and balochistan`s barohi,baloch and pushtuns dont like to join armed forces to great extent,may be its their nature?

 

[saeed khan]

There is no doubt that Pakistani army is by character a punjabi army and which promtes nationalism rather than islamism,this is why only Musharraf get rebuked but a punjabi traitor like Kiyani is praised in the media these are the double standards which shows that this punjabism exist.

Musharaf was also praised before he came into power and Kiyani will be also criticised if he imposes Marshall Law .