Militancy in pakistan and its solution

[YAHYA87]

Yes an anti terrorism policy should be made and all issues should be discussed including terrorizing Karachi, Bhatta Khori, Target Killing etc. as well as Taliban issue and what is heppening in FATA moving to the whole KP now.

Anti terrorism policy regarding Karachi I totally agree with you on that as so many Taliban commanders have been arrested in Karachi as well and a banned organization like SSP is still operational here so they also need to get rid of...And also weapons supply to Karachi should be BLOCKED FOR GOOD...

 

[BluntMan]

Anti terrorism policy regarding Karachi I totally agree with you on that as so many Taliban commanders have been arrested in Karachi as well and a banned organization like SSP is still operational here so they also need to get rid of...And also weapons supply to Karachi should be BLOCKED FOR GOOD...

92 operation is a good example. And now MQM's militant component needs to be taken care of.

 

[BluntMan]

And also weapons supply to Karachi should be BLOCKED FOR GOOD...

Agreed on that. But de weaponisation of Karachi is needed and all weapons to be taken off from all political parties militants.

 

[YAHYA87]

92 operation is a good example. And now MQM's militant component needs to be taken care of.

1992 is worse example of DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY as 1992 was complete Humiliation because the group which this operation was done against is stronger then ever and still exist in Pakistan so this example would create a great mess for Pakistan in terrorism Policy...

 

[YAHYA87]

Agreed on that. But de weaponisation of Karachi is needed and all weapons to be taken off from all political parties militants.

All Illegal weapons should be taken from everyone but let them keep legal weapons UNTIL CRIME RATE IS DECREASE TO MINIMUM...Before Taking all Illegal weapons BLOCK THE SUPPLY OF WEAPONS FIRST FOR GOOD because after this operation completed next day it will be full of weapons IF SUPPLY ROUTE ISNT BLOCKED...

 

[BluntMan]

All Illegal weapons should be taken from everyone but let them keep legal weapons UNTIL CRIME RATE IS DECREASE TO MINIMUM...Before Taking all Illegal weapons BLOCK THE SUPPLY OF WEAPONS FIRST FOR GOOD because after this operation completed next day it will be full of weapons IF SUPPLY ROUTE ISNT BLOCKED...

So that MQM can continue its terrorism in Karachi. MQM has been in power and granted their terrorists licenses so let them keep the licenses and continue terrorism.

 

[BluntMan]

92 operation was totally successful in bringing peace. It was Musharraf which helped MQM so that he could have an ally in Karachi.

 

[YAHYA87]

So that MQM can continue its terrorism in Karachi. MQM has been in power and granted their terrorists licenses so let them keep the licenses and continue terrorism.

So you agree that MQM has legal weapons isnt it....I think now you are getting down because if MQM have legal weapons then they are allowed to keep them because they are registered by Govt....While others have unregistered....So If what you are saying is true then MQM can KEEP THEIR WEAPONS but OTHERS DONT because MQM have LEGALLY ACQUIRED IT while OTHERS ARE USING ILLEGAL...So you are making no sense as you are SUGGESTING that A PERSON SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED FOR SELF DEFENSE EVEN...

 

[ALI ARYAN]

Aaj Kal mulk mein buhat zordar discussion is bat per ho raha hai ke Panjabi Talibanaistaion hai ya nahin, Hakoomat e Panjab ko Talibanaization se zada is istlah ke naam per aitraz hai ke is ko panjabi talibanization na kaho, or Fedral Goverment ka israr hai ke Panjabi Talib mojod hain or woh unka Halqa e Asar Janoobi Panjab ko batatay hain, actually Talibanization ek Soch hai or yeh haqeqat hai ke is soch mein Pakistan mein mojod her qaum or Zaban bolnay walay log dheeray dheeray shamil ho rahay hain, jis mein Pashtun zaban bolnay walon ke illawa , Panjabi, Sindhi, Baloch, Saraiki Brahawai or Urdu bolnay walay bhi kaseer tadad mein shamil hain, ab sawal yeh peda hota hai ke inko panjabi taliban ka name kiyon deeya jata hai, iska simple reason hai her gher pashtun talib ko Panjabi samjha jata hai ab Wallah Aalam is ki kia waja hai, or gher pashtunoon ko Panjabi taliban ke name se hi pukara jata hai, jaisay ke Hamid mir ki recorded tape ko bhi suna jaye to us mein dosra fareeq (woh koi bhi ho) yehi istalah istemal kar raha hai.

Ab Sawal yeh peda hota hai ke is gher zarori behas ko chor kar ke panjabi gher panjabi ya pashtun ya balochi taqseem ko qata e nazar rakhtay huay is ka sade bab socha jaye yeh doonon parties is behas main uljhi hui hein, or yeh sirf is waja se hai ke doonon parties ke pass is barhati hui inteha pasandi ke hal ka koi mansooba nahin hai, inke pass jo log leaders ke name per mojod hain unka agenda is maslay ka hal nahin unka agenda zaati problems ko solve karna hai.

 

[YAHYA87]

92 operation was totally successful in bringing peace. It was Musharraf which helped MQM so that he could have an ally in Karachi.

How come its peaceful when the the crime rate reached to highest level and when people of Karachi rejected Armed forces and their puppets in Karachi and also when 15000 people were killed by Army(Mostly Innocent people+ not even half of those whom Army was against) and you are calling it peaceful what a joke...

 

[BluntMan]

Complete peace was brought in Karachi at that time. And the whole MQM went underground because as i said getting Bhatta from innocent peaceful civilians is easy. The figures given are just made up figures. The Bhatta collectors and terrorists were targetted by police with Intelligence and Rangers helped them. Rangers are paramilitary. The people of Karachi were terrorized by MQM's terrorists and after Musharraf gave MQM a new life, people see no hope other then MQM in Karachi for now. One thing is positive that under Musharraf MQM did development in Karachi for which their genuine vote bank has increased.

 

[YAHYA87]

Complete peace was brought in Karachi at that time. And the whole MQM went underground because as i said getting Bhatta from innocent peaceful civilians is easy. The figures given are just made up figures. The Bhatta collectors and terrorists were targetted by police with Intelligence and Rangers helped them. Rangers are paramilitary. The people of Karachi were terrorized by MQM's terrorists and after Musharraf gave MQM a new life, people see no hope other then MQM in Karachi for now. One thing is positive that under Musharraf MQM did development in Karachi for which their genuine vote bank has increased.

Complete peace are you serious???instead The peace of Karachi was destroyed because so much VIOLENCE started in Karachi and Karachi was so much effected that economic activities came to worse level and BTW thw operation of Kaqrachi wasnt ended in 1992-93 but it remain till 1999...Even After that Farooq Sattar also went to jail as well....So count whole operation as Army and Agencies humiliated after doing 8 years continues operation and then failed and I am talking about same Army which boosted itself by saying that we kicked out Soviet Union couldnt able to stop a small group....MQM did went underground but after few months they came out and won the elections despite elections were held under Armed forces so what was the result???Nothing except humiliation of Armed forces from Karachiite and those figures are not made up figures as that figures can be easily confirmed by just looking at eidhi center's files so instead of trying to justify something that you failed to prove go and on something else because you are making joke of yourself by saying operation was successful...MQM has been launched in Punjab as well so is that what you call successful???they have reached at the backyard of Army and you are calling it successful....Good one wake up its 21st century not 1992...

 

[BluntMan]

It was police and Rangers with agencies. Musharraf gave a new life to MQM. He was the Army chief so he had the power. The operation was successful and it did bring peace. No buildings were destroyed, just terrorists were targetted. Afterwards the political parties since they are corrupt themselves started their own dirty politics and then Musharraf came and then you know what happened. I do agree that under Musharraf, MQM did development in Karachi.

 

[YAHYA87]

It was police and Rangers with agencies. Musharraf gave a new life to MQM. He was the Army chief so he had the power. The operation was successful and it did bring peace. No buildings were destroyed, just terrorists were targetted. Afterwards the political parties since they are corrupt themselves started their own dirty politics and then Musharraf came and then you know what happened. I do agree that under Musharraf, MQM did development in Karachi.

MQM wasnt dead as you think new life was given to MQM because MQM still were largest political force of Karachi and Agencies dogs(MQM Haqiqi) was just able to won only 1 seat in 10 years while MQM had 10+ seats from Karachi when Musharraf came to power....So first get some knowledge about politics of Karachi as MQM wasnt dead but it was alive and after looking at failures of Military Musharraf decided to give them a chance to prove themselves and they proved themselves worthy of Support of people by development and also by Law and order....So First go and understand Karachi politics first instead of reading Biased media reports of 1990s which was nothing but a mouthpiece of Pakistan Govt.

 

[BluntMan]

10+ seats were next to nothing. Musharraf backed MQM against PPP to get support. There was no failue of army instead Rangers helped police bring peace.

 

[BluntMan]

By the way where did your anti-ISI post go your MQM buddy Ammad Hafeez started?

 

[ALI ARYAN]

MQM ne Azeem Ahmed Tariq Ki shahdat ke bad National assembly ke ellections ka boycott kia tha, or Karachi ki Naam Nihad numayendgi rakhnay ka dawa rakhnay wali parties ki siyasi halat roz e roshan ki tarah sab ke samnay a agaye thee, un halqoon jahan se MQM ka umeedwar Lakhoon main vote leta tha wahan se sirf PMLN, PPP or degar jamaton ke umeedwar 10000 se zada votes na le paye thay or Karachi mein Overall turnout sirf 12 % raha tha jab ke mulk ke degar illaqon se Taqreeban 35 % or us se oper the. agar khule dil ke sath un natayej ko dekha jaye jab MQM medan se bahir thee to in jamatoon ki qalaye khul gaye, Khasosi tor per Jamat e Islami jo ke ek bhi nashist hasil na kar saki, Sharam inko magar phir bhi nahin aati, tab bhi dhatye ke sath Karachi numayendgi ka dawa kartay hein.

 

[YAHYA87]

10+ seats were next to nothing. Musharraf backed MQM against PPP to get support. There was no failue of army instead Rangers helped police bring peace.

In 18 seats of Karachi having 10+ seats is nothing despite of Army and Agencies are used against them so you still believe its nothing???PPP always had 3 seats from Karachi, MQM Haqiqi got only one seat, JI got two and remaining were MQM's seat which makes the number 12seats and in worse condition that Army is doing operation against them but they are still winning those seats...

 

[YAHYA87]

By the way where did your anti-ISI post go your MQM buddy Ammad Hafeez started?

Ask Admin because if its not their then Admin might have delete it so why are you asking me about that???Are you getting frustrated from my response???

 

[BluntMan]

You ask him or better your MQM buddy who started that thread starting an anti-ISI campaign