KAUSAR AUR AJRE RUSSALAT pbuh

ALZULFIQAR

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
i think you must ask by yourself to dr. Qadri.. I told you.. Just quran is not enough.. If you believe that just quran is enough.. Then show me right path.. Tell me its qalma in quran.. Its namaz in quran.. Its azan in quran.. Its time of iftar and shar in quran.. If you are faithful muslim.. Please help me.. Make me the true muslim.. Please.. Leave this alim.. Show me your knowledge.. Please..
 

ALZULFIQAR

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
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Prophet Muhammad - may Allah (SWT) bestow peace and benedictions upon him and his pure Progeny - said: "Verily, I am leaving behind two precious things (thaqalayn) among you: the Book of Allah and my kindred (itrah), my household Ahlul Bayt (Ahl al-Bayt), for indeed, the two will never separate until they come back to me by the Pond (of al Kawthar on the Day of Judgement)." [Hadith-e-Saqlain]
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
i think you must ask by yourself to dr. Qadri.. I told you.. Just quran is not enough.. If you believe that just quran is enough.. Then show me right path.. Tell me its qalma in quran.. Its namaz in quran.. Its azan in quran.. Its time of iftar and shar in quran.. If you are faithful muslim.. Please help me.. Make me the true muslim.. Please.. Leave this alim.. Show me your knowledge.. Please..

Why I should leave this Alim. You have to realize one thing. That it is an international board. You selected those video with some "OBJECTIVE"
in your mind, or u wish to say that it was mere "Pass Time exercise". What you think that here people are only grazing the sheeps. Believe
me that I have not even biopsied this video 10 percent.
Please do not quote "Hadiths", I have no knowledge of them. But I tell you that the one you quoted has got definitely THREE VERSION:
a) Leaving Quran only;
b) leaveing Quran and Sunnat only
c) leaving Quran, Sunnat, and Ahalulbait.
I do not adopt the things on which there is Question Mark?
You wish to be a true Muslim, You may implore to Allah, because only he Guides to Whom He will, Revert to Your Creator,
instead of concentrating on Past Personalities, concentrate on HIM alone, perhaps He may show you right path and May Allah do so.
 

ALZULFIQAR

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
As i told you.. i leave myself on you.. show me the right path.. you have knowledge of quran... tell me according to quran.. how to be faithful? how i can perform namaz? which time and how i have to do vozo? about ramadan.. about hajj.. about zakat..
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
As i told you.. i leave myself on you.. show me the right path.. you have knowledge of quran... tell me according to quran.. how to be faithful? how i can perform namaz? which time and how i have to do vozo? about ramadan.. about hajj.. about zakat..
Leave aside all your pre-conceived concepts and beliefs; go towards Quran in a neutral way, have the sincereity in your intention, implore to Allah,
daily read only two verses but with full understanding, again implore to Allah, and check yourself the difference.
 

ALZULFIQAR

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَنْ يَّشْرِيْ نَفْسَهُ ابْـتِغَاۗءَ مَرْضَاتِ اللّٰهِ ۭ وَاللّٰهُ رَءُوْفٌۢ بِالْعِبَادِ

دوسری طرف انسانوں ہی میں کوئی ایسا بھی ہے ، جو رضائے الٰہی کی طلب میں اپنی جان کھپا دیتا ہے اور ایسے بندوں پر اللہ بہت مہربان ہے۔(207

And among men there is ONE who sells his soul to seek the pleasure of Allah; and truly Allah is affectionate to His (such) servants. Surae Baqarah, 2 : 207

BELIEVE ME I READ QURAN .. SURA BAQARAH.. HERE ALLAH TALK ABOUT ONE WHO SELLS HIS SOUL TO ALLAH.... DO YOU HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE THEN ME ABOUT KNOWLEDGE.. LETS TELL ME WHO IS THAT ONE?
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Dear Bro Babadeena
Assalam-o-alaikum
I totally agree with your point of view that there is wide difference between thinking of SUNNI & SHIA on some basic points including the topic of this thread..
.. ALLAH knows best as i may be wrong in judging it, he might be trying to bridge the gap or trying to raise our awareness.. His intentions may be right but the way he is posting, i think the result is totally different as just recently most of his posts have created differences.
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To get back to topic, without criticizing the shia sect, babadeena brother, can you share tafaseer of SURAH KAUSAR from different authentic writers so that we can get clear picture what KAUSAR means.
Jaza-k-ALLAH
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
My dear Baba Deena... not next time.. its better to finish it this time.. i am not propagate shiaism.. people like you always think that which one love Mohammad pbuh s family more then shaba they are shia.. i love them more then any other shaba and i got this lesson from shaba.. you cannot compare them to any shaba..
second you asked about to show syed in quran.. my dear friend.. you are asking to show syed in Quran.. if you have more knowledge and you believe more then me on Quran then just show me your Qalma in Quran.. you perform your namaz everyday.. just show me your whole namaz in Quran.. time of Namaz and Azan in Quran.. way of Hajj in Quran.. you cannot show me it whole life.. because its different shown in Quran as you perform.. even you cannot show how you do Vozo.. because its different then your practical.. maybe you did not go to Raiwand but i had been there many time.. i visited all sects of islam..its names of Mohammad pbuh and one of them is Syed too.. i can give answers of your all questions but i am working too and i am not here all the time.. before you ask some other questions try to find of your Qalma and Namaz and style of Vozo in Quran and then talk with me..

In front of Allah the rewards and status is raised based on "Taqwa" not based on relationship with anybody:

'A'isha, the wife of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him), reported that the Quraish were concerned about the woman who had committed theft during the lifetime of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him), in the expedition of Victory (of Mecca). They said: Who would speak to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) about her? They (again) said: Who can dare do this but Usama b Zaid, the loved one of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him)? She was brought to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and Usama b. Zaid s***e about her to him (interceded on her behalf). The colour of the face of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) changed, and he said: Do you intercede in one of the prescribed punishments of Allah? He (Usama) said: 'Messenger of Allah, seek forgiveness for me. When it was dusk. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) stood up and gave an address. He (first) glorified Allah as He deserves, and then said: Now to our topic. This (injustice) destroyed those before you that when any one of (high) rank committed theft among them, they spared him, and when any weak one among them committed theft, they inflicted the prescribed punishment upon him. By Him in Whose Hand is my life, even if Fatima daughter of Muhammad were to commit theft, I would have cut off her hand. He (the Holy Prophet) then commanded about that woman who had committed theft, and her hand was cut off. 'A'isha (further) said: Hers was a good respentance, and she later on married and used to come to me after that, and I conveyed her needs (and problems) to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). [Sahih Muslim, Hadeeth# 4188]
 

sahiL

Senator (1k+ posts)
by God we need more ppl like babadeena to tackle the wrong interpretation of Quran
just by saying...u don,t know anything about Quran n Sunna doesn,t prove ur point zulfiqar
instead of questions....come up with explanations......n i agree with babadeena that u,re just propagating shiaism.....sorry to say
but u urself don,t know anything......Allah will not ask us...did u ask Tahir Ul Qadri or this molvi u posted the videos above.....but surely he,ll hold us accountable if we don,t strive to seach for the truth
no Tahir ul qadri or any other Aalim will be responsible for our deeds......its just our ownself buddy
plz don,t make it so hard for urself.....believe in Quran n authentic books of Hadith....n u,ll not be astrayed ........
 

ALZULFIQAR

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
My brother..i said i do not know about Quran and islam.. i requested mr baba deena that if he says that quran is enough then show me Qalma, namaz. azan, hajj, zakat and fasting time in quran.. i will fallow him.. i accept that i have no knowledge.. show me right path through just quran... i will be great full... it is way to help me.. you do if you can...
i agree with you that Allah will not ask about dr qadri.. .. but we fallow imams.. and imam mean which take responsibility.. because of this whole world fallow imams... Hanafi..shafi..hambli..or jafar e sadiq.. these are responsible because we fallow them because we got through them these fiqas..
 
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babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَنْ يَّشْرِيْ نَفْسَهُ ابْـتِغَاۗءَ مَرْضَاتِ اللّٰهِ ۭ وَاللّٰهُ رَءُوْفٌۢ بِالْعِبَادِ

دوسری طرف انسانوں ہی میں کوئی ایسا بھی ہے ، جو رضائے الٰہی کی طلب میں اپنی جان کھپا دیتا ہے اور ایسے بندوں پر اللہ بہت مہربان ہے۔(207

And among men there is ONE who sells his soul to seek the pleasure of Allah; and truly Allah is affectionate to His (such) servants. Surae Baqarah, 2 : 207

BELIEVE ME I READ QURAN .. SURA BAQARAH.. HERE ALLAH TALK ABOUT ONE WHO SELLS HIS SOUL TO ALLAH.... DO YOU HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE THEN ME ABOUT KNOWLEDGE.. LETS TELL ME WHO IS THAT ONE?
Definitely it is not a "particular personality-specific" as a sect pretend. It is general principle applicable to everyone, everytime and everywhere. Your question "who is that one" raises eye brows. Please come out of this pre-conceived concepts if you wish to understand quran.
BTW I have marked Red certain words in Urdu translation, ask the translator for which Arabic words He wrote them? Unfortunately, the pity is that
people intoxicated in their sects wish to mold Quran according to their own whims/desires.
If you wish to understand this verse read it with reference to context from the previous verses. According to your criteria who are then the people for
the verse No.204, 200,201 etc.
http://www.quraneasyurdu.net/ps02/ch02o.html
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
Dear Bro Babadeena
Assalam-o-alaikum
I totally agree with your point of view that there is wide difference between thinking of SUNNI & SHIA on some basic points including the topic of this thread..
.. ALLAH knows best as i may be wrong in judging it, he might be trying to bridge the gap or trying to raise our awareness.. His intentions may be right but the way he is posting, i think the result is totally different as just recently most of his posts have created differences.
==================
To get back to topic, without criticizing the shia sect, babadeena brother, can you share tafaseer of SURAH KAUSAR from different authentic writers so that we can get clear picture what KAUSAR means.
Jaza-k-ALLAH
Brother, WaalikumSalaamwa Rehmutllah!.
I do not go into Tafaseers for various reasons, I only try to understand Quran with the help of Quran only. According to me the best
criteria is that get the relevant word, in this case, Kausar, check from all Quran where this word and in which verses this word has been used
in different ways, then meaning automatically come to your heart and mind. Perhaps u may have noticed I never quote anybody's tafseer, because:
Tafseers had been written as per pre-determined concepts of the writer's faith and preferences etc. If we take the root word of Kausar from Quran,
this has been used in different way in different places. This word has been tied up by many mufasirs with a fountain in Janat and now with Fatima(as),
whereas the fountains of Janat has been specifically mentioned in Quran and in no way the arabic word kausar is Fatima. The verse is related to
our Prophet(pbuh) and is specific. The guiding principle which we can take is: If Allah gives you in abundance, then pray to your Lord and make
sacrifices, do not care about your enemies, because which Allah has granted you no one can take away and if He withhelds anything, then no one
can grant that. It is simple, coincise and to the point.
May Allah bless you. I have nothing against Shias or any other sect whosoever it may be, but if someone tries to play with Quran to adjust it with
his/her own pre-determined creed, then it is my duty atleast once to point it out. Therefore, I do not buy anything from this Alim in Question what he
said, for me he is mischievous and malfide.
 

sahiL

Senator (1k+ posts)
as far as i know all the Imams strived to get Hadiths in different times and from different sources where they differ
n they tried to reform it for the betterment of Islam, not to create sects
n all of them said....if u find any of our teachingz contradicting with Quran...don,t take it
it means we the ppL with our limited knowledge misinterpret Quran n Imams....we don,t have to follow these Imams in order to be acceptable Muslim in the sight of Allah
or plz correct me if we have to(*) follow them
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
Allah has no where stated in Quran that believers are supposed to follow Imams but rather has emphasized to follow the Guidance which
has been sent and will remain this Guidance as "Imam" till the end of this universe. No doubt all four Imams were learned personalities of their
era but it does not mean that we have to accept blindly what the present day people attribute towards them as "having said" or to make sects on their names.
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
OK I heard this guy and am in a position to say that this person has no connection with ILM. Whatever he is talking about is far far from what I have heard from not one not ten but hundreds of scholars. There is no sanad of whatever he is saying and the people who are praising him should be put in a mental facility. If allamas like him keep cropping up soon we will not know what true deen is. If you love Ahl-e-Bayt then do not transgress. We all love Ahl-e-Bayt!!!!
 

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