The Qadiani Ahmadiyya Lahore Tragedy By Truth Unvield

[atensari]

I agree Qadiniat is falsehood.However,there is no justification in killing them.They may not be Muslims but they are Citizens of Pakistan and The State is duty bound to protect them.During Prophet Mohammad's (SWAS) time Christians,jews and other non Muslims would pay " Jazia" and lived peacefully in Mecca.

By not abiding by the law Qadiyani are creating problems for themselves and for others.

 

[atensari]

Qadiyanies! here is more detail of your favorite Hadeeth about "Worst Creature", hopefully your so-called Khalifa and other high ranked Qadiyanies are not accumulating wealth on the name of Religion.

 

[crankthskunk]

Kalim_Ch

Why are you wasting everyones time, we know how many summersault were performed by Mirza on the term Khattam-un-Nabiyyian. Mirza truly being an opportunistic liar used different meanings when it suited him according to the arguments he wanted to put forward. And then wrote something completely opposite and contradictory later on.

In my article I have provided different meanings used for this term by Mirza. There is a claim by Qadianis that no one understood the meaning of the term Khatam better then Mirza.

I say, lets test it, so I have thrown the gauntlet to the Qadiani from the writing of Mirza, he said he is called Khatam RabulAlameen. I want any Qadiani to explain me the meaning of this term used with the word RabulAlameen. I say use any explanation given by Mirza, quote any book of Mirza you want, just give the meanings and explanations of this term used by Mirza.

After all it was an alleged Wahi to Mirza. Your reluctance showed that you can not explain the alleged wahi to Mirza nor you can give any evidence from the writings of Mirza.

You are snookered well and truly. 100 years of practice to fool people and none of you could provide one explanation for over 5 months, ever since I have published my article.

I will be willing to debate with any Qadiani, even with Masroor or your best Murabi, if he can provide me any plausible explanation for the wahi of Mirza and then defend his explanations. There is no point of quoting meaningless quotes from the writings of Mirza we know his nature very well, there is no point of producing Ahadiths either, we also know your cult have extensively researched this topic for over 100 years and you are well aware of Muslims position that Prophet Muhammad SAW is the last Prophet of any kind, prophethood ended on him SAW. But despite this Mirza and now your cult never stopped spreading lies and falsehood.

Best way to hammer home the point is the alleged Wahi of Mirza. What do you think; you got the bottle to defend Mirza and his wahi?

 

[sayeenwada]

Khatam-e-Nabuwat 1 of 4

 

[sayeenwada]

[video=google;-2421814586450977378]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2421814586450977378#[/video]Confession of facts by severe opponents of Ahmadis (like Dr, Israr Ahmad). Positive remarks about Ahmadiyyat and Founder of Ahmadiyyat by Allama Iqbal, Sir Syed Ahmad Khan and bitter opponent of Ahmadiyyat Dr. Israr Ahmad. [A video Clip from ARY Digital, A famous satellite TV Channel.] { Laguage : Urdu} Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani is the awaited Imam Mahdi & Promised Messiah. Ahmadiyya movement in Islam preach "Love For All, Hatred For None". Ahmadiyah Muslims are strickly against the hatred & Terrorism in the name of religion as practiced by Mullahs. Note: The video can be downloaded from www.real-islam.org/audio

Listen to your Dr. Israr yourself....don't mislead the Muslims suffering across the globe...

 

[binmahmood]

[video=google;-2421814586450977378]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2421814586450977378#[/video]Confession of facts by severe opponents of Ahmadis (like Dr, Israr Ahmad). Positive remarks about Ahmadiyyat and Founder of Ahmadiyyat by Allama Iqbal, Sir Syed Ahmad Khan and bitter opponent of Ahmadiyyat Dr. Israr Ahmad. [A video Clip from ARY Digital, A famous satellite TV Channel.] { Laguage : Urdu} Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani is the awaited Imam Mahdi & Promised Messiah. Ahmadiyya movement in Islam preach "Love For All, Hatred For None". Ahmadiyah Muslims are strickly against the hatred & Terrorism in the name of religion as practiced by Mullahs. Note: The video can be downloaded from www.real-islam.org/audio

Listen to your Dr. Israr yourself....don't mislead the Muslims suffering across the globe...

I like Qadyanies as a minority like Hindus and Christians, but I dislike them when they try to portray themselves as Muslims in state of Pakistan, where they are explicitly defined as Non Muslims. You guys therefore violate the local laws, first thing. Second thing, I like the slogan, "love for all hatred for none" but I can show you with some real proofs about the language used by Mirza Ghulama by non qadyanies. Since he is your so called Prophet, you HAVE to follow him, which indirectly corresponds that you have to keep at least same amount of hatred about us. Analyze yourselves dudes...

 

[sayeenwada]

Well I hate to break it to you, but according to your protectors of Islam that you incubated by implementing such savage laws have declared all of you KAFIRS too...so, no need to get all smug about how you are a Muslim...they bomb the Crap out of you on a daily basis...you Kafir!

I see what your ilk have done to Pakistan with your pathetic understanding of Islam. The country we (Ahmadis and other good Muslims) helped create, protect and launched now stands ruined because of your savage mulaa and your lantee laws..look what you have done to our Pakistan. Mega crooks roam Pakistan and people butcher others like savage animals..

 

[sayeenwada]

this is your society and your mulaa...millions of pics and clips...no thanks to your Islam ..

 

[sayeenwada]

Ahmadiyyat is the True Islam....or prepare to be obliterated...

Truth of Ahmadiyya Jamaat,Pakistan National Assembly 1974-1

B]Truth of Ahmadiyya Jamaat,Pakistan National Assembly 1974-2[/B]

B]Truth of Ahmadiyya Jamaat,Pakistan National Assembly 1974-3[/B]

 

[biomat]

Dear brother Knowledge Seeker..
Assalam-o-alaikum
Here brother sayeenwada have opened another box.. He neither read the discussion going on between you , kaleem ch, Xia & qadiyanitruth bhai.
What u say about it now.. Was i right in telling that one after the other there will be Qadiyanis/ahmedis coming & taking back to point zero without taking into account where their brethren were in defending their spiritual leader & founder, previously..

 

[sayeenwada]

There is nothing to discuss when ignorant buffoons here call the Promised Messiah & Imam Mahdi Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) a liar nazubillah. May Allah the Exalted pulverize all that continue to twist His (AS) and His Master's the Holy Prophet of Islam (SAW) teachings.

 

[binmahmood]

Well I hate to break it to you, but according to your protectors of Islam that you incubated by implementing such savage laws have declared all of you KAFIRS too...so, no need to get all smug about how you are a Muslim...they bomb the Crap out of you on a daily basis...you Kafir!

I see what your ilk have done to Pakistan with your pathetic understanding of Islam. The country we (Ahmadis and other good Muslims) helped create, protect and launched now stands ruined because of your savage mulaa and your lantee laws..look what you have done to our Pakistan. Mega crooks roam Pakistan and people butcher others like savage animals..

There is no Mulla in Somalia, it is ruined even more. So please, do not try to put every filth on Mullas. They have their part though, yet don't put YOUR guilt on others. Your message is portraying your good slogan "Love for all..." crap.....

 

[binmahmood]

this is your society and your mulaa...millions of pics and clips...no thanks to your Islam ..

We are still waiting for any of our Mullah who dies in his own dirt.. you know what I meant ;)

 

[Knowledge Seeker]

There is nothing to discuss when ignorant buffoons here call the Promised Messiah & Imam Mahdi Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) a liar nazubillah.

You guys are really the symbol of more embarrassment for the false claimer of prophet hood, Mirza Ghulam Ahmed. Instead of coming up to address the discussion in this thread, you have again posted videos of another liar and ignorant to further weaken your elders falsehood.

If you can not discuss then keep yourself away and live in the surrounding of False claims and distorted interpretation of Quran and Sunnah

 

[Knowledge Seeker]

Dear brother Knowledge Seeker..
Assalam-o-alaikum
Here brother sayeenwada have opened another box.. He neither read the discussion going on between you , kaleem ch, Xia & qadiyanitruth bhai.
What u say about it now.. Was i right in telling that one after the other there will be Qadiyanis/ahmedis coming & taking back to point zero without taking into account where their brethren were in defending their spiritual leader & founder, previously..

Wa'Alaikum As Salam Brother Biomat,

We have already seen this typical approach of the followers of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed specially "sayeenwada" and "Redaxe" in other threads and again, this time they could not resist themselves in order to avoid the discussion and divert the discussion by posting videos helplessly.

Although arguments of "kaleem_ch" is weak so far but I would still appreciate his willingness for discussion in this thread and "sayeenwada" should at least learn from his community member regarding the approach of discussion.

Brother, You are right about their efforts to keep discussion in different threads to point zero. Let them keep trying to divert the discussion and on the other hand, we will be consistent in engaging ourselves for the sanctity of our beloved Prophet Hadhrat Muhammad (pbuh) to spread the awareness about the falsehood of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed.

 

[xiaahmad]

Any person with bit knowledge and want to learn will see that Qadianiyat is not true and they twist QURAN, Hadith and sayings of Scholars
when the original writings and complete belief of Islam, and scholars are seen its totally different what qadianis and their(qadiani) leaders claims.

like they them self claim that non qadianis are kafir and non muslim but when same is done from them they shout and cry, they do propaganda against Pakistan they get happy coz of floods and earthquakes in Pakistan and say that its coz of qadianiyat and it rejection :)

 

[xiaahmad]

• The Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said:"If an prophet were to succeed me, it would have been 'Umar bin Khattab"(RA) (Tirmidhi,Kitab ul Manaqib)

• The Holy Prophet (PBUH)told Hadrat Ali(RA), "You are related to me as Aaron was related to Moses(peace be upon him). But no prophet will come after me." (Bukhari and Muslim)

• [FONT=&quot]A man in the time of Imam Abu Hanifa (RA) laid claim to Prophethood and said "Let me show you the proofs of my prophethood." The great Imam thereupon warned the people: "Anyone who asks of this man the credentials of prophethood, shall become an apostate, for the Prophet of God (PBUH) has explicitly declared: "No prophet will come after me."[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot] (Manaqib al-Imam-i-Azam Abi Hanifa)

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• [FONT=&quot]Shah Wali Ullah said: And that as for that meaning of prophethood which is [a human sent by Allah to the people, obedience to whom is required, protected from sins and remaining in error] that, this (meaning of) prophethood can still be found in the leaders of the Community after him; then this person is a heretic (zindīq). (Al-Musawwa Sharh al-Muwatta; under the section The Ruling of the Khawārij, the Jahmiyya and their likes[/FONT][FONT=&quot])[/FONT]

 

[Siasat-pk]

Fitne-e-Qadianiat, Fitna-e-Yusuf Kazab and other all fitnas occurred due to blindly following of Peer, Faqeers and Walis; and not following directly Quraan and Authentic Hadeeths. If you follow Quraan and Authentic Hadeeth then you will never have non-Islam believes such as grave worshiping, believing that the Peer has knowledge of unseen and knowledge of future, believe that the dead Peer in the grave is capable of blessing you with a child, believing that your Peer is in direct contact with Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) through dreams or by other means, believing that Sidja-e-Tazimi is not SHIRK to your Peer or to the grave, believe that your dead or alive Peer can do Karamats (miracles).

If you are strictly following the teaching of Quraan and Autentic Hadeeth and are not blindly following any Peer then even you deviate from your path and somebody points it out to you you can quickly consult the Quraan and hadeeth and will be able to quickly correct yourself, which is not possible if you are blindly following a Peer.

Prophet Muhammad ( pbuh) stressed the importance of following the Quran and Sunnah and the danger of introducing any innovations into Islam. It is known that the Prophet said: “Whoever does a deed which is not in accordance to my commands (i.e. the Islamic Law), it shall be rejected.” (Saheeh Muslim)

Ibn Mas’ood (a companion of the prophet), may Allah be pleased with him, said: “The Messenger of God, may the blessing and mercy of God be upon him, made a straight line on the ground with his hand, then he said, “This is the straight path of God.” Then he made a (short) line on each side of the straight line; then he said, ‘These (short) lines, each one has a devil inviting people to it.” Then he recited the verse (of the Quran): “And this is My path straight. So follow it, and do not follow (other) ways, lest they lead you away from My path.” (Quran 6:153)
Saheeh: Reported by Ahmad and an-Nasaae’e.

Start blindly follow you Peer, Faqeer and walis and you will end up into Qadianism, Sufism, Qadrism, Naqshbandism, Chushtism....

 

[atensari]

People it's a simple question now, do you want this dreaded version of islam?

[FONT=&quot]This and Ahmadiat either are not Islam.[/FONT]

 

[atensari]

this is your society and your mulaa...millions of pics and clips...no thanks to your Islam ..

What is the definition of Mullah?