SUFI MUSIC ----- Whats the reality?

[sngilani]

babadeen and basim brothers tried enough to make ....cheeko and sngilani ......understand the truth but.....Alas u guys have failed to make them see reason n reality.....but im gonna give it a try 4 the last time
so brother cheeko n sngilani......last question....n cheeko bro ...don,t tell me i come once in a day without any proofs n leave kuz i,ve been following this particular thread
....plz don,t copy n paste a book here just answer me yes/no
.....can u overwrite Quran n Hadith with sufism/iqbalism/auliaism/ n many izms
do u think Quran n Hadiths were not enough for a human being to lead a life so we need all these isms?
plz answer

Q-->can u overwrite Quran n Hadith with sufism/iqbalism/auliaism/ n many izms : ANSWER :- No , nothing can overwrite Quran n Hadith.
Q-->do u think Quran n Hadiths were not enough for a human being to lead a life so we need all these isms? : ANSWER:-No , Quran n Hadiths are enough.

خودی مے گم ہے خدائی تلاش کر غافل
خدا کرے تجھے تیرے مقام سے آگاہ

وما تو فقی اللہ با الله

 

[Cheeko]

babadeen and basim brothers tried enough to make ....cheeko and sngilani ......understand the truth but.....Alas u guys have failed to make them see reason n reality.....but im gonna give it a try 4 the last time
so brother cheeko n sngilani......last question....n cheeko bro ...don,t tell me i come once in a day without any proofs n leave kuz i,ve been following this particular thread
....plz don,t copy n paste a book here just answer me yes/no
.....can u overwrite Quran n Hadith with sufism/iqbalism/auliaism/ n many izms
do u think Quran n Hadiths were not enough for a human being to lead a life so we need all these isms?
plz answer

I have replied by quoting Quran and Hadees and they are clearly refuting the evidence. They are rejecting Quran and Hadees including you. You people have no shame left and you can go to any lengths in preaching hatred in the name of religion. None of you had the guts to admit that you r refuting Quran and Hadees. Each and every detail has been presented with documented and authentic references.

There is nothing such as sufism and its an english word. The Aulia Allah or Sufis have always preached Quran and Hadees and hence the people from Tunisia to Bangladesh are Muslims. The word sufism is not an Arabic word but an english word. There is no Arabic word which disticts it as some separate sect like ahle hadees and wahabis and salafis. So this point of yours also clearly reveals your bias against the Aulia Allah. Your type of views are certainly najdi influenced. The other group that has similar views are Khwarijis known as Ibbadis today and also modernists such as Quranists. Interestingly most of the people belonnging to these groups have never even discovered a thing or invented a needle in their life. Comparing your knowledge with the sufis is like comparing oranges with apples. In Islamic history nearly all the famous Muslim scientists were also students of the Aulia Allah. Kindly name one Muslim scientist who had beliefs like you. People like you were either busy in murdering and killing in those days such as today or were the liberals of their era such as today. Khas kam jahan pak.

May Allah guide us all Ameen.

 

[Pakistani1947]

The refutation of many of the Sufi Ahaadeeth by Sheikhul Islam ibn Taymiyyah

I have replied by quoting Quran and Hadees and they are clearly refuting the evidence. They are rejecting Quran and Hadees including you. You people have no shame left and you can go to any lengths in preaching hatred in the name of religion. None of you had the guts to admit that you r refuting Quran and Hadees. Each and every detail has been presented with documented and authentic references.
May Allah guide us all Ameen.

Cheeko,

Sufism is mostly based on fabricated Hadeeths. Following is the Refutation of many Sufi Ahadeeth by Sheikul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah:

Sheikhul Islam ibn Taymiyyah was asked about the words which were narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “My heaven and my earth could not contain Me, but the heart of My believing slave contains Me”?
He replied: Praise be to Allaah. What they mentioned is from the Israa’eeliyyaat [reports narrated from Jewish sources], no isnaad is known for it from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). What it means is that Allaah puts love and knowledge of Himself in the heart of His slave.

The report, “The heart is the house of the Lord” is like the first report. The heart is the home or seat of faith in Allaah and of knowledge and love of Him.

They reported the words, “I was an unknown treasure and I wanted to be known, so I created mankind and taught them about Myself so that they would know Me.” These are not the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and I know of no isnaad for this, either saheeh (sound) or da’eef (weak).

They reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah created reason, and said to it, ‘Come here,’ and it came. He said to it, ‘Go there,’ and it went. He said, ‘By My Glory and Majesty, I have not created anything more noble than you. I shall reward and punish because of you.’” This hadeeth is baatil (false) and mawdoo’ (fabricated) according to the consensus of hadeeth scholars.

They narrate the words, “Love of this world is the root of all evil.” This is known from Jundub ibn ‘Abd-Allaah al-Bajali, but there is no known isnaad from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
They report the words, “This world is merely a step for the believing man.” This is not known from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or from the salaf of this ummah or its imams.

They report the words, “Whoever is blessed with a thing, let him stick with it” and, “Whoever commits himself to something, let him stick with it.” The first report was narrated from one of the salaf. The second report is baatil (false), for whoever commits himself to something may have to stick to it or he may not, according to what Allaah and His Messenger have commanded.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Do favours for the poor, for tomorrow they will have authority, and what authority!” and, “Poverty is my pride and I boast of it.” Both of these are lies and are not known in any way in the well known books of the Muslims.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I am the city of knowledge and ‘Ali is its gate.” This hadeeth is da’eef (weak); indeed it is mawdoo’ (fabricated) according to the scholars of hadeeth. It was narrated by al-Tirmidhi and others, but it is a lie.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “The poor will sit down on the Day of Resurrection, and [Allaah] will say, ‘By My Glory and Majesty, I did not deprive you of worldly things because you are insignificant. Rather I wanted to raise your status on this Day. Go to the place where the people are standing, and whoever gave you a piece of bread, or water to drink, or clothes to wear, take him to Paradise.’” The shaykh said: this report is a lie which was not narrated by any of the scholars of hadeeth. It is baatil (false) and goes against the Qur’aan and Sunnah and scholarly consensus (ijmaa’).

They report that when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came to Madeenah, the daughters of al-Najjaar came out with daffs (hand-drums) and sang “Tala’a al-Badru ‘alayna min thaniyyat al-Widaa”, and the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to them, “Shake your tambourines, may Allaah bless you.” The hadeeth about women beating the daff on joyous occasions is saheeh, and this was done at the time of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), but it is not known that he said, “Shake your tambourines.”

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “O Allaah, You have brought me out of the place which is most beloved to me, so cause me to dwell in the place which is most beloved to You.” This hadeeth is also baatil (false), although it was narrated by al-Tirmidhi and others. Rather he said to Makkah, “You are the most beloved part of Allaah’s land to me.” And he said, “You are the most beloved land to Allaah.”

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever visits me and my father Ibraaheem in one year will enter Paradise.” This is a fabricated lie which was not narrated by any of the scholars of hadeeth.

They report that a Bedouin prayed (quickly), pecking (like a bird) in his prayer. ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) said, “Do not peck in your prayer.” The Bedouin said, “O ‘Ali, if your father had pecked in prayer he would not have entered Hell.” This is a lie.

They report that ‘Umar killed his father. This is a lie, for his father died before the mission of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) began.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “I was a Prophet when Adam was between the water and the clay. I was a Prophet when Adam was neither water nor clay.” This wording is false.

They report the words, “The bed of a single man is fire. Poor is the man who has no woman and the woman who has no man.” These are not the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
It was narrated that when Ibraaheem (peace be upon him) built the Ka’bah, he prayed one thousand rak’ahs in each corner, then Allaah revealed to him, “O Ibraaheem, this is not like feeding a hungry man or clothing a man who cannot cover his ‘awrah.” This is obviously a lie, and it is not known in the books of the Muslims.

They narrate the words, “Do not despise tribulation, for it will reap the hypocrites.” These words are not known from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

They narrate the words, “Whoever teaches his brother an aayah from the Book of Allaah becomes his master.” This is a lie which is not known at all in the books of the scholars.

They narrate that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “I looked at the sins of my ummah and I did not find any greater sin than that of one who learns an aayah then forgets it.” If this hadeeth is saheeh, what is meant is forgetting in the sense of not reciting. The wording of the hadeeth is: “Among the sins of my ummah is that of a man to whom Allaah gave an aayah of the Qur’aan, but he neglected it until he forgot it.” This forgetting means turning away from the Qur’aan and not believing in it or acting upon it. With regard to neglecting to study it until one forgets it, this is a sin.

They report the words, “One aayah of the Qur’aan is better than Muhammad and the family of Muhammad. The Qur’aan is the word of Allaah, revealed not created, and there is nothing like it.” This wording was not reported from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever learns something beneficial and conceals it from the Muslims, Allaah will bridle him with reins of fire on the Day of Resurrection.” A similar meaning is to be found in al-Sunan: the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Whoever is asked about a matter of [Islamic] knowledge which he knows but he conceals it, Allaah will bridle him with reins of fire on the Day of Resurrection.”

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “When you come to talk about disputes which took place among my companions, be quiet. When you come to talk about the Divine will and decree (al-qadaa’ wa’l-qadar), keep quiet.” This was reported with munqati’ (broken or interrupted) isnaads.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to Salmaan al-Farsi when he was eating grapes, “Du, du,” meaning eat them two by two. These are not the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him); this is baatil (false).

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Whoever commits zina (fornication) with a woman and she gives birth to a girl, the fornicator may marry his daughter who was born as a result of zina.” This was said by those who were not among the companions of al-Shaafa’i. Some of them attributed it to al-Shaafa’i, and some of the companions of al-Shaafa’i denied that he said that. They said, he did not state that this is permitted, but he did state that this is permissible in the case of radaa’ah (breastfeeding), if he breastfed from the milk of a woman who got pregnant as a result of zina. Most of the scholars, such as Ahmad, Abu Haneefah and others, are agreed that this is haraam, and this is the stronger of the two opinions narrated in the madhhab of Maalik.

They report the words, “the most deserving thing for which you take payment is the Book of Allaah.” Yes, it is proven that [the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] said, “The most deserving thing for which you take payment is the Book of Allaah,” but that was in the hadeeth about ruqyah (reciting Qur’aan and du’aa’s for the purpose of healing), and the reward was for the recovery of that sick person, not for the recitation.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Whoever mistreats a dhimmi (a Jew or Christian living under Islamic rule), Allaah will be his opponent on the Day of Resurrection” or “I will be his opponent on the Day of Resurrection.” This is da’eef (weak). What is known from him is that he said: “Whoever kills a mu’aahid (member of a kaafir nation which has a peace treaty with the Muslims) for no lawful reason will not smell the fragrance of Paradise.”

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever lights a lamp in the mosque, the angels and the bearers of the Throne will not cease to pray for forgiveness for him so long as the light of that lamp is shining in the mosque.” I know of no isnaad for this from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

(Ref: Al-Fataawa al-Kubra, 5/88-93)

 

[Pakistani1947]

Imam Shaf'i and Imam Ahmad on Sufism

Here are some of the great scholars sayings about Tasawuuf:
Imam Al-Shaf'i:
"If a person excercized sufism(tasawafa) at the begininng of the day, he doesn't come at Zuhur except an idiot".
"Nobody accompanied the Sufis forty days and had his brain return(never) "
And he recited in poetry: " And leave (alone) who if came to you practiced piety/ and when alone were concealed wolves"-Pgs 371 Talbees Iblis


And when he went to Egypt he said: "I have left Baghdad and the aetheists(Zanadiga) have innovated a thing they call Sama'(Hearing)" - He is referring to the singinig and dancing that the Sufis innovated in the second century and is still spread amongst them till the present day.
N.B: Notice how Imam Al-Shafi' who was Malik's student opposed Sufism. One wonders how some beleive in what was ascribed to Imam Malik concerning Sufism( Man tasawwafa walam yatafaghaha-etc). There exists different views amongst the two Imams in Fiqh matters but this is a matter of Aqidah, they have one and the same Aqidah.

Imam Ahmed Bin Hanbal:
" Warn (people) from Al-Harith( a Sufi leader) the strongest warning!!Al-Harith is the origin of the confusion(referring to the incidents of Jahm- . Fulan and Fulan have sat with that (person) and he has changed them to Jahm's view, He is still the shelter of the people of the talk. Harith is in the position of a garrisonned lion any day (he) will leap on the people"-Talbees Iblis Pgs166-167.

Imam Abu Zara' Al-Dimashqi:
When asked about the books of Al-Harith Al-Muhasbi: "Beware of those books. those are books of innovation and misguidance.Stick to what has been related from the prophet-saaws-(Al-Athar), you will find in it what would spare you those books. It was told to him:There is a lesson(Ibra) in those books. He said: Whoever doesn't find a lesson from the book of Allah, would not find a lesson in those books. It has reached you that Malik bin Anas, Sufyan AL-Thawri, Al-Awzai and the precedent Imamas classified those books amongst the anxieties, insinuations and those(similar) things. Those(meaning the Sufis) people contradicted the people of knowledge ( Ahl Al-Elm), they come to us once by Al-Harith Al-Muhasbi, another by Abdul-Raheem Al-Dubeeli, another by Hatim Al-Asam, another by Shaqiq Al-Bulakhi, then he said: how fast are people (going ) to innovations(Al-Bida')."


Conclusion:
To sum up, the great scholars opposed the innovations that the Sufis have brought to Islam through their deviated spiritual approaches.Millions of people around the world have been converted from Mohammad-saaws-'s Islam to Sufism

 

[sngilani]

Re: The refutation of many of the Sufi Ahaadeeth by Sheikhul Islam ibn Taymiyyah

Cheeko,

Sufism is mostly based on fabricated Hadeeths. Following is the Refutation of many Sufi Ahadeeth by Sheikul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah:

Sheikhul Islam ibn Taymiyyah was asked about the words which were narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “My heaven and my earth could not contain Me, but the heart of My believing slave contains Me”?
He replied: Praise be to Allaah. What they mentioned is from the Israa’eeliyyaat [reports narrated from Jewish sources], no isnaad is known for it from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). What it means is that Allaah puts love and knowledge of Himself in the heart of His slave.

The report, “The heart is the house of the Lord” is like the first report. The heart is the home or seat of faith in Allaah and of knowledge and love of Him.

They reported the words, “I was an unknown treasure and I wanted to be known, so I created mankind and taught them about Myself so that they would know Me.” These are not the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and I know of no isnaad for this, either saheeh (sound) or da’eef (weak).

They reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah created reason, and said to it, ‘Come here,’ and it came. He said to it, ‘Go there,’ and it went. He said, ‘By My Glory and Majesty, I have not created anything more noble than you. I shall reward and punish because of you.’” This hadeeth is baatil (false) and mawdoo’ (fabricated) according to the consensus of hadeeth scholars.

They narrate the words, “Love of this world is the root of all evil.” This is known from Jundub ibn ‘Abd-Allaah al-Bajali, but there is no known isnaad from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
They report the words, “This world is merely a step for the believing man.” This is not known from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or from the salaf of this ummah or its imams.

They report the words, “Whoever is blessed with a thing, let him stick with it” and, “Whoever commits himself to something, let him stick with it.” The first report was narrated from one of the salaf. The second report is baatil (false), for whoever commits himself to something may have to stick to it or he may not, according to what Allaah and His Messenger have commanded.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Do favours for the poor, for tomorrow they will have authority, and what authority!” and, “Poverty is my pride and I boast of it.” Both of these are lies and are not known in any way in the well known books of the Muslims.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I am the city of knowledge and ‘Ali is its gate.” This hadeeth is da’eef (weak); indeed it is mawdoo’ (fabricated) according to the scholars of hadeeth. It was narrated by al-Tirmidhi and others, but it is a lie.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “The poor will sit down on the Day of Resurrection, and [Allaah] will say, ‘By My Glory and Majesty, I did not deprive you of worldly things because you are insignificant. Rather I wanted to raise your status on this Day. Go to the place where the people are standing, and whoever gave you a piece of bread, or water to drink, or clothes to wear, take him to Paradise.’” The shaykh said: this report is a lie which was not narrated by any of the scholars of hadeeth. It is baatil (false) and goes against the Qur’aan and Sunnah and scholarly consensus (ijmaa’).

They report that when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came to Madeenah, the daughters of al-Najjaar came out with daffs (hand-drums) and sang “Tala’a al-Badru ‘alayna min thaniyyat al-Widaa”, and the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to them, “Shake your tambourines, may Allaah bless you.” The hadeeth about women beating the daff on joyous occasions is saheeh, and this was done at the time of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), but it is not known that he said, “Shake your tambourines.”

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “O Allaah, You have brought me out of the place which is most beloved to me, so cause me to dwell in the place which is most beloved to You.” This hadeeth is also baatil (false), although it was narrated by al-Tirmidhi and others. Rather he said to Makkah, “You are the most beloved part of Allaah’s land to me.” And he said, “You are the most beloved land to Allaah.”

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever visits me and my father Ibraaheem in one year will enter Paradise.” This is a fabricated lie which was not narrated by any of the scholars of hadeeth.

They report that a Bedouin prayed (quickly), pecking (like a bird) in his prayer. ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) said, “Do not peck in your prayer.” The Bedouin said, “O ‘Ali, if your father had pecked in prayer he would not have entered Hell.” This is a lie.

They report that ‘Umar killed his father. This is a lie, for his father died before the mission of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) began.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “I was a Prophet when Adam was between the water and the clay. I was a Prophet when Adam was neither water nor clay.” This wording is false.

They report the words, “The bed of a single man is fire. Poor is the man who has no woman and the woman who has no man.” These are not the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
It was narrated that when Ibraaheem (peace be upon him) built the Ka’bah, he prayed one thousand rak’ahs in each corner, then Allaah revealed to him, “O Ibraaheem, this is not like feeding a hungry man or clothing a man who cannot cover his ‘awrah.” This is obviously a lie, and it is not known in the books of the Muslims.

They narrate the words, “Do not despise tribulation, for it will reap the hypocrites.” These words are not known from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

They narrate the words, “Whoever teaches his brother an aayah from the Book of Allaah becomes his master.” This is a lie which is not known at all in the books of the scholars.

They narrate that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “I looked at the sins of my ummah and I did not find any greater sin than that of one who learns an aayah then forgets it.” If this hadeeth is saheeh, what is meant is forgetting in the sense of not reciting. The wording of the hadeeth is: “Among the sins of my ummah is that of a man to whom Allaah gave an aayah of the Qur’aan, but he neglected it until he forgot it.” This forgetting means turning away from the Qur’aan and not believing in it or acting upon it. With regard to neglecting to study it until one forgets it, this is a sin.

They report the words, “One aayah of the Qur’aan is better than Muhammad and the family of Muhammad. The Qur’aan is the word of Allaah, revealed not created, and there is nothing like it.” This wording was not reported from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever learns something beneficial and conceals it from the Muslims, Allaah will bridle him with reins of fire on the Day of Resurrection.” A similar meaning is to be found in al-Sunan: the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Whoever is asked about a matter of [Islamic] knowledge which he knows but he conceals it, Allaah will bridle him with reins of fire on the Day of Resurrection.”

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “When you come to talk about disputes which took place among my companions, be quiet. When you come to talk about the Divine will and decree (al-qadaa’ wa’l-qadar), keep quiet.” This was reported with munqati’ (broken or interrupted) isnaads.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to Salmaan al-Farsi when he was eating grapes, “Du, du,” meaning eat them two by two. These are not the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him); this is baatil (false).

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Whoever commits zina (fornication) with a woman and she gives birth to a girl, the fornicator may marry his daughter who was born as a result of zina.” This was said by those who were not among the companions of al-Shaafa’i. Some of them attributed it to al-Shaafa’i, and some of the companions of al-Shaafa’i denied that he said that. They said, he did not state that this is permitted, but he did state that this is permissible in the case of radaa’ah (breastfeeding), if he breastfed from the milk of a woman who got pregnant as a result of zina. Most of the scholars, such as Ahmad, Abu Haneefah and others, are agreed that this is haraam, and this is the stronger of the two opinions narrated in the madhhab of Maalik.

They report the words, “the most deserving thing for which you take payment is the Book of Allaah.” Yes, it is proven that [the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] said, “The most deserving thing for which you take payment is the Book of Allaah,” but that was in the hadeeth about ruqyah (reciting Qur’aan and du’aa’s for the purpose of healing), and the reward was for the recovery of that sick person, not for the recitation.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Whoever mistreats a dhimmi (a Jew or Christian living under Islamic rule), Allaah will be his opponent on the Day of Resurrection” or “I will be his opponent on the Day of Resurrection.” This is da’eef (weak). What is known from him is that he said: “Whoever kills a mu’aahid (member of a kaafir nation which has a peace treaty with the Muslims) for no lawful reason will not smell the fragrance of Paradise.”

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever lights a lamp in the mosque, the angels and the bearers of the Throne will not cease to pray for forgiveness for him so long as the light of that lamp is shining in the mosque.” I know of no isnaad for this from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

(Ref: Al-Fataawa al-Kubra, 5/88-93)

Do'nt spread hatret and promote secretarian devide on this forum. We all know Shia and Sunni have been blaming each other for creating febricated Hadeeths for last 1400 years. I object strongly and demand from admin of Siasatpk to close this and similar threads permanently.

 

[Pakistani1947]

Dr. Bilal Philip's Lecture on Music and Islam

Please see following video by Dr. Bilal Philip regarding Halal and Haram Music

 

[Pakistani1947]

The Naqshibandi Sufi [Deviant Sects Series] - Dr. Bilal Philp's Lecture

 

[Pakistani1947]

Crazy Suffis

 

[Cheeko]

Re: The refutation of many of the Sufi Ahaadeeth by Sheikhul Islam ibn Taymiyyah

Cheeko,

Sufism is mostly based on fabricated Hadeeths. Following is the Refutation of many Sufi Ahadeeth by Sheikul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah:

Sheikhul Islam ibn Taymiyyah was asked about the words which were narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “My heaven and my earth could not contain Me, but the heart of My believing slave contains Me”?
He replied: Praise be to Allaah. What they mentioned is from the Israa’eeliyyaat [reports narrated from Jewish sources], no isnaad is known for it from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). What it means is that Allaah puts love and knowledge of Himself in the heart of His slave.

The report, “The heart is the house of the Lord” is like the first report. The heart is the home or seat of faith in Allaah and of knowledge and love of Him.

They reported the words, “I was an unknown treasure and I wanted to be known, so I created mankind and taught them about Myself so that they would know Me.” These are not the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and I know of no isnaad for this, either saheeh (sound) or da’eef (weak).

They reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah created reason, and said to it, ‘Come here,’ and it came. He said to it, ‘Go there,’ and it went. He said, ‘By My Glory and Majesty, I have not created anything more noble than you. I shall reward and punish because of you.’” This hadeeth is baatil (false) and mawdoo’ (fabricated) according to the consensus of hadeeth scholars.

They narrate the words, “Love of this world is the root of all evil.” This is known from Jundub ibn ‘Abd-Allaah al-Bajali, but there is no known isnaad from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
They report the words, “This world is merely a step for the believing man.” This is not known from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or from the salaf of this ummah or its imams.

They report the words, “Whoever is blessed with a thing, let him stick with it” and, “Whoever commits himself to something, let him stick with it.” The first report was narrated from one of the salaf. The second report is baatil (false), for whoever commits himself to something may have to stick to it or he may not, according to what Allaah and His Messenger have commanded.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Do favours for the poor, for tomorrow they will have authority, and what authority!” and, “Poverty is my pride and I boast of it.” Both of these are lies and are not known in any way in the well known books of the Muslims.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I am the city of knowledge and ‘Ali is its gate.” This hadeeth is da’eef (weak); indeed it is mawdoo’ (fabricated) according to the scholars of hadeeth. It was narrated by al-Tirmidhi and others, but it is a lie.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “The poor will sit down on the Day of Resurrection, and [Allaah] will say, ‘By My Glory and Majesty, I did not deprive you of worldly things because you are insignificant. Rather I wanted to raise your status on this Day. Go to the place where the people are standing, and whoever gave you a piece of bread, or water to drink, or clothes to wear, take him to Paradise.’” The shaykh said: this report is a lie which was not narrated by any of the scholars of hadeeth. It is baatil (false) and goes against the Qur’aan and Sunnah and scholarly consensus (ijmaa’).

They report that when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came to Madeenah, the daughters of al-Najjaar came out with daffs (hand-drums) and sang “Tala’a al-Badru ‘alayna min thaniyyat al-Widaa”, and the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to them, “Shake your tambourines, may Allaah bless you.” The hadeeth about women beating the daff on joyous occasions is saheeh, and this was done at the time of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), but it is not known that he said, “Shake your tambourines.”

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “O Allaah, You have brought me out of the place which is most beloved to me, so cause me to dwell in the place which is most beloved to You.” This hadeeth is also baatil (false), although it was narrated by al-Tirmidhi and others. Rather he said to Makkah, “You are the most beloved part of Allaah’s land to me.” And he said, “You are the most beloved land to Allaah.”

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever visits me and my father Ibraaheem in one year will enter Paradise.” This is a fabricated lie which was not narrated by any of the scholars of hadeeth.

They report that a Bedouin prayed (quickly), pecking (like a bird) in his prayer. ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) said, “Do not peck in your prayer.” The Bedouin said, “O ‘Ali, if your father had pecked in prayer he would not have entered Hell.” This is a lie.

They report that ‘Umar killed his father. This is a lie, for his father died before the mission of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) began.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “I was a Prophet when Adam was between the water and the clay. I was a Prophet when Adam was neither water nor clay.” This wording is false.

They report the words, “The bed of a single man is fire. Poor is the man who has no woman and the woman who has no man.” These are not the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
It was narrated that when Ibraaheem (peace be upon him) built the Ka’bah, he prayed one thousand rak’ahs in each corner, then Allaah revealed to him, “O Ibraaheem, this is not like feeding a hungry man or clothing a man who cannot cover his ‘awrah.” This is obviously a lie, and it is not known in the books of the Muslims.

They narrate the words, “Do not despise tribulation, for it will reap the hypocrites.” These words are not known from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

They narrate the words, “Whoever teaches his brother an aayah from the Book of Allaah becomes his master.” This is a lie which is not known at all in the books of the scholars.

They narrate that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “I looked at the sins of my ummah and I did not find any greater sin than that of one who learns an aayah then forgets it.” If this hadeeth is saheeh, what is meant is forgetting in the sense of not reciting. The wording of the hadeeth is: “Among the sins of my ummah is that of a man to whom Allaah gave an aayah of the Qur’aan, but he neglected it until he forgot it.” This forgetting means turning away from the Qur’aan and not believing in it or acting upon it. With regard to neglecting to study it until one forgets it, this is a sin.

They report the words, “One aayah of the Qur’aan is better than Muhammad and the family of Muhammad. The Qur’aan is the word of Allaah, revealed not created, and there is nothing like it.” This wording was not reported from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever learns something beneficial and conceals it from the Muslims, Allaah will bridle him with reins of fire on the Day of Resurrection.” A similar meaning is to be found in al-Sunan: the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Whoever is asked about a matter of [Islamic] knowledge which he knows but he conceals it, Allaah will bridle him with reins of fire on the Day of Resurrection.”

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “When you come to talk about disputes which took place among my companions, be quiet. When you come to talk about the Divine will and decree (al-qadaa’ wa’l-qadar), keep quiet.” This was reported with munqati’ (broken or interrupted) isnaads.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to Salmaan al-Farsi when he was eating grapes, “Du, du,” meaning eat them two by two. These are not the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him); this is baatil (false).

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Whoever commits zina (fornication) with a woman and she gives birth to a girl, the fornicator may marry his daughter who was born as a result of zina.” This was said by those who were not among the companions of al-Shaafa’i. Some of them attributed it to al-Shaafa’i, and some of the companions of al-Shaafa’i denied that he said that. They said, he did not state that this is permitted, but he did state that this is permissible in the case of radaa’ah (breastfeeding), if he breastfed from the milk of a woman who got pregnant as a result of zina. Most of the scholars, such as Ahmad, Abu Haneefah and others, are agreed that this is haraam, and this is the stronger of the two opinions narrated in the madhhab of Maalik.

They report the words, “the most deserving thing for which you take payment is the Book of Allaah.” Yes, it is proven that [the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] said, “The most deserving thing for which you take payment is the Book of Allaah,” but that was in the hadeeth about ruqyah (reciting Qur’aan and du’aa’s for the purpose of healing), and the reward was for the recovery of that sick person, not for the recitation.

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Whoever mistreats a dhimmi (a Jew or Christian living under Islamic rule), Allaah will be his opponent on the Day of Resurrection” or “I will be his opponent on the Day of Resurrection.” This is da’eef (weak). What is known from him is that he said: “Whoever kills a mu’aahid (member of a kaafir nation which has a peace treaty with the Muslims) for no lawful reason will not smell the fragrance of Paradise.”

They report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever lights a lamp in the mosque, the angels and the bearers of the Throne will not cease to pray for forgiveness for him so long as the light of that lamp is shining in the mosque.” I know of no isnaad for this from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

(Ref: Al-Fataawa al-Kubra, 5/88-93)

Its good that you continue to do this typical najdi type propoganda as it helps my cause. Just like a typical Tousif ur Rahman najdi follower who projects nori bori type fake and deviated self proclaimed sufi videos and claims that this is all sufism. I have already told that any one who does anything apart from sharia is not following proper Islam. None of the Hadees that you have shown here has ever been told by me in this thread except one and that is of the tambourine one. This Hadees is not zaeef and Ibn Taymiyyah just claims that he isnt sure if tambourines were allowed. This is his observation whereas none of the Hadees experts have ever doubted that Hadees. Infact there are not just one but quite a few sahih Hadees regarding tambourines and festivals. It is his individual opinion. The rest of the Hadees havent been quoted by me nor do I think are related in any way to the topic or Auliaa Allah but again I would prefer to leave it to reputed Hadees experts rather than just Ibn Taymiyyah alone.

Apart from that the material you have posted from the website it also contains some extremely eye opening views of najdis about Jamat Islamiyyah and Hizb Tahrir and Tabligi Jamaat.You also need to check out the opinion regarding Deobandis and Barailwis alike. According to this website every one is a deviant except themselves. I will give you the link of all what I told of this website.

http://www.allaahuakbar.net/jamaat-e-islaami/index.htm

http://www.allaahuakbar.net/deobandism/index.htm

http://www.allaahuakbar.net/tableegi_jamaat/index.htm

http://www.allaahuakbar.net/jamaat-e-islaami/hizb/index.htm

http://www.allaahuakbar.net/barelwiyat/index.htm


So for the najdis every one is a deviant except themselves. So whatever this website tells about Islam doesnt carry any weight for me.

 

[Pakistani1947]

Sufi Shayatin

 

[Cheeko]

Re: Imam Shaf'i and Imam Ahmad on Sufism

Here are some of the great scholars sayings about Tasawuuf:
Imam Al-Shaf'i:
"If a person excercized sufism(tasawafa) at the begininng of the day, he doesn't come at Zuhur except an idiot".
"Nobody accompanied the Sufis forty days and had his brain return(never) "
And he recited in poetry: " And leave (alone) who if came to you practiced piety/ and when alone were concealed wolves"-Pgs 371 Talbees Iblis


And when he went to Egypt he said: "I have left Baghdad and the aetheists(Zanadiga) have innovated a thing they call Sama'(Hearing)" - He is referring to the singinig and dancing that the Sufis innovated in the second century and is still spread amongst them till the present day.
N.B: Notice how Imam Al-Shafi' who was Malik's student opposed Sufism. One wonders how some beleive in what was ascribed to Imam Malik concerning Sufism( Man tasawwafa walam yatafaghaha-etc). There exists different views amongst the two Imams in Fiqh matters but this is a matter of Aqidah, they have one and the same Aqidah.

Imam Ahmed Bin Hanbal:
" Warn (people) from Al-Harith( a Sufi leader) the strongest warning!!Al-Harith is the origin of the confusion(referring to the incidents of Jahm- . Fulan and Fulan have sat with that (person) and he has changed them to Jahm's view, He is still the shelter of the people of the talk. Harith is in the position of a garrisonned lion any day (he) will leap on the people"-Talbees Iblis Pgs166-167.

Imam Abu Zara' Al-Dimashqi:
When asked about the books of Al-Harith Al-Muhasbi: "Beware of those books. those are books of innovation and misguidance.Stick to what has been related from the prophet-saaws-(Al-Athar), you will find in it what would spare you those books. It was told to him:There is a lesson(Ibra) in those books. He said: Whoever doesn't find a lesson from the book of Allah, would not find a lesson in those books. It has reached you that Malik bin Anas, Sufyan AL-Thawri, Al-Awzai and the precedent Imamas classified those books amongst the anxieties, insinuations and those(similar) things. Those(meaning the Sufis) people contradicted the people of knowledge ( Ahl Al-Elm), they come to us once by Al-Harith Al-Muhasbi, another by Abdul-Raheem Al-Dubeeli, another by Hatim Al-Asam, another by Shaqiq Al-Bulakhi, then he said: how fast are people (going ) to innovations(Al-Bida')."


Conclusion:
To sum up, the great scholars opposed the innovations that the Sufis have brought to Islam through their deviated spiritual approaches.Millions of people around the world have been converted from Mohammad-saaws-'s Islam to Sufism

You are helping my cause believe me by giving these types of materials without even reading it. The article is related to one man Al-Harith Al-Muhasbi and according to the above Imams he is not a right person. Imam Abu Zara Al-Dimashqi himself is quoting Hazrat Sufyan Al-Thawri who himself was a sufi and a famous Hadees narrator. Thus this confirms that Aulia Allah also didnt think that Al-Harith was a good man. So I am really laughing at what you have done here. You have strengthened my position by giving it a wrong conclusion without any proper research.

 

[Cheeko]

These petro dollar funded fake najdi molvi followers should also search for the videos linked by the Jamaat Ahlus Sunnah on you tube in which they keep on revealing the true face of najdis.


All this useless propoganda is not even an inch of what the Muslims have faced and dealt with. No one on this planet earth can stop Pakistan from rising and no body can damage its true ideology and whoever may think so otherwise will be perished and remembered as a looser.

 

[Pakistani1947]

These petro dollar funded fake najdi molvi followers should also search for the videos linked by the Jamaat Ahlus Sunnah on you tube in which they keep on revealing the true face of najdis.

All this useless propoganda is not even an inch of what the Muslims have faced and dealt with. No one on this planet earth can stop Pakistan from rising and no body can damage its true ideology and whoever may think so otherwise will be perished and remembered as a looser.

Do you think that the Shytani Raqs can make Pakistan rise?

 

[Cheeko]

Do you think that the Shytani Raqs can make Pakistan rise?

The shaytani raqs such as mujras are wrong but the raqs which you say as shaytani is being done in the region since the arrival of Islamic luminaries and has transformed into folk and cultural dance. Raqs for festive purposes is even an integral part of Saudia Arabia. They have their own cultural and folk dances. See in the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC4hdjEXHm0&feature=related

Now listen to the national anthem of Saudia Arabia and tell me which musical instruments are being used

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymlmSzfHmk0


Pakistan was created well after the arrival of Islamic luminaries in 1947 and if Pakistan came into existence inspite of what you call shaytani raqs then it will definitely rise and shine also. Nothing on earth can stop Pakistan from rising and shining. Not even the najdi followers. You can try your luck as much as you wish.

 

[Pakistani1947]

The shaytani raqs such as mujras are wrong but the raqs which you say as shaytani is being done in the region since the arrival of Islamic luminaries and has become folk and cultural dance. Raqs for festive purposes is even an integral part of Saudia Arabia. They have their own cultural and folk dances. See in the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC4hdjEXHm0&feature=related

Now listen to the national anthem of Saudia Arabia and tell me which musical instruments are being used

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymlmSzfHmk0


Pakistan was created well after the arrival of Islamic luminaries in 1947 and if Pakistan came into existence inspite of what you call shaytani raqs then it will definitely rise and shine also. Nothing on earth can stop Pakistan from rising and shining. Not even the najdi followers. You can try your luck as much as you wish.

Islam is a simple, peaceful and beautiful religion. Please keep it pure. Muslims over the time has polluted this beautiful Deen with all kind of biddat (innovations).

And please do not tell me what Talibans, Saudia or Saudis do. Please tell me, giving Authentic hadeeths only, what our beloved Prophet pbum used to do.

Could you give me any authentic Hadeeth from Sahih Satta proving ever our Prophet Muhammad pbuh preached (Nauzobilla) any of the religious dances shown in the above videos?

Also do not mix any culture with the religion!

 

[Cheeko]

So if you dont care about najdis then why were you people showing their propoganda stuff. I am laughing at you. There are so many things in the above video which are not right and this has nothing to do with Islam. We can discuss them. Now I will give you some evidence about raqs and wajad and singing for good purposes and collected all of them that I know altogether.



[Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol.7 Hadith No.5147]

Narrated Ar Rabi (the daughter of Muawwidh bin Afra):

After the consummation of my marriage, the Prophet came and sat on my bed as far from me as you are sitting now, and our little girls started beating the tambourines (daff) and reciting elegiac verses mourning my father, who had been killed in the battle of Badr. One of them said, Among us is a Prophet who knows what will happen tomorrow. On that the Prophet said, Leave this (saying) and keep on saying the verses which you had been saying before.


Hadrat Abu huraira (رضّى الله عنه) going into wajd/swoon 3 timesTranslation:

Shufayya Asbahi narrated: I entered Madinah and came upon a man around whom people had gathered. I asked, Who is he? They said, Abu Hurayrah (R.A) So, I went near him till I sat down opposite him while he was narrating hadith to the people. When he paused and was alone I said to him, I ask you by Truth, by Allah, narrate to me a hadith that you may have heard from Allahs Messenger (SAW), understood it and remembered it. He said, I will do that, narrate to you a hadith that Allahs Messenger narrated to me and I understood it and I remember it Then he shrieked and fell unconscious and revived after a while and repeated, Surely, I will narrate to you a hadith that Allahs Messenger (SAW) narrated to me in this house, there being no one else with us, only I and he. Then, Abu Hurayrah shrieked loudly and fell unconscious. He recovered shortly, wired his face and said, I will do it. Surely I will narrate to you a hadith that Allahs Messenger narrated to me I and he were in this house, there being no one else with us, besides me and him. Then he shrieked loudly and fell unconscious and, as he was falling done on his face, I supported him for a long time. Then he regained consciousness and said, Allahs Messenger (SAW) narrated....

Then he regained consciousness and said, Allahs Messenger (SAW) narrated to me that on the Day of Resurrection, Allah the Exalted, will come down to the worshippers to judge between them and all the ummahs will kneel down. Tirmizi



Hadith

حدّثنا عبد الله حدثني أبي، ثنا عبد الصمد قال: ثنا حماد ، عن ثابت ، عن أنس قال: كانت الحبشة يزفنون بين يدي رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلّم ويرقصون ويقولون: محمد عبد صالح ، فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلّم: ما يقولون؟ قالوا: يقولون: محمد عبد صالح

It is narrated by Anas (R.A) that the Habashis were present in front of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) and THEY WERE DANCING (Yarqasun)
and saying: Muhammadun Abdun Salih (i.e. Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم the righteous slave). The Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) asked: What are they saying? They said: Muhammadun Abdun Salih
,
[Musnad Ahmed bin Hanbal, Volume No.3, Page no. 152]
,
Note : All narrators of this hadith are those of Sahih bukhari and muslim
,
Shuyb al Aranut said after this hadith:
,
إسناده صحيح على شرط مسلم
,
The Chain is SAHIH on the criteria of MUSLIM [ibid]

Imam Nawawi (rah) on Above hadithsaid

with commentary by Muhammad Shirbini Khatib It is not prohibited to dance ((Shirbini ) which is not unlawful because it is only motions made while standing or bowing. Furani and others have expressly stated that neither is it offensive, but rather, is permissible, as is attested to by the hadith related in the Sahihs of Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) stood before Aisha (Allah be well pleased with her) to screen her from view so that she could observe the Abyssinians sporting and dancing) unless it is languid, like the movements of the effeminate (Mughni al-muhtaj ila marifa maani alfaz al-Minhaj (y73), 4.430)


Imam Ibn Hajar Al-Haytami (Rah) on above Hadith said about above hadith

Beating the kuba is prohibited but dancing isnt, being neither prohibited nor offensive, because it is only motions made while standing or bowing, and further because he (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) consented to the Abyssinians doing so in his mosque on the day of Eid, as related by Bukhari and Muslim.

The bold text is from the Minhaj of Imam Nawawi while the rest is Ibn Hajars commentary [Tuhfa al-Muhtaj fi Sharh al-Minhaj]


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Now how many other imams [rah] of Hadith used the word Raqs "Dance" although a Salaf is enough proof in this case but still

1": Imam Tabarani [rah] used the word Raqs [dancing] Reference: Hadith #3 on page 121, Volume 9

2: Imam Nisai [rah] in Sunan Al Kubra using the word Dance "RAQS"] in page # 309, Vol 5 with same Sahih chain and says

that the Abysinians were standing in front of the door of the Holy Prophet es house and were ecstatically dancing or performing raqs on anticipation of seeing the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw)

3: Imam Zamakshari also explained the same haditth with a Sahih chain calling it Raqs , And said Qala al zafaru Al Raqs The word in the hadith means Raqs

4: Imam Suyuti [rah] in[ Sharh Sahih Bukhari pg 123, Al hajl Al tawseeh] said " Al hajalo al raqs biha til maqstatin "

5: Imam Juhri [in kitab ul lugat pg 46] Says Al zafl wa Raqs
,6: Imam murtaza Zubaide [rah] in Taj us uloom kitbah ul lugat ] says " Zafana zasfun zafana ie. It Stands for Raqs [dance]

7: Imam Ibn Manzoor [in lisan ul arab, most authnetic book of lugat pg 135 ] says Al Zafl Al Raqs (i.e it means Raqs )

8: Imam Nabawi [rah] writes in sharh sahih muslim pg 347 says Mana hu yarqusoon (i.e they did Raqs)


9: Qadi Iyad [rah] said in [sarh sahih muslim pg 429 ] Al zabl hu wal raqs

So ijma of imams [rah] agreed its Raqs [dancing] what came from Sahih hadith including Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal [rah] who was a salaf himself


Hadith


Ali ibn Abi Talib(ra) states:

حَدَّثَنَا ‏ ‏أَسْوَدُ يَعْنِي ابْنَ عَامِرٍ ‏ ‏أَنْبَأَنَا ‏ ‏إِسْرَائِيلُ ‏ ‏عَنْ ‏ ‏أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ ‏ ‏عَنْ ‏ ‏هَانِئِ بْنِ هَانِئٍ ‏ ‏عَنْ ‏ ‏عَلِيٍّ ‏ ‏رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ ‏ ‏قَالَ ‏أَتَيْتُ النَّبِيَّ ‏ ‏صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ ‏ ‏وَجَعْفَرٌ ‏ ‏وَزَيْدٌ ‏ ‏قَالَ ‏ ‏فَقَالَ ‏ ‏لِزَيْدٍ ‏ ‏أَنْتَ ‏ ‏ مَوْلَايَ ‏ ‏ فَحَجَلَ ‏ ‏قَالَ وَقَالَ ‏ ‏لِجَعْفَرٍ ‏ ‏أَنْتَ أَشْبَهْتَ خَلْقِي وَخُلُقِي قَالَ ‏ ‏ فَحَجَلَ ‏ ‏وَرَاءَ ‏ ‏زَيْدٍ ‏ ‏قَالَ وَقَالَ لِي أَنْتَ مِنِّي وَأَنَا مِنْكَ قَالَ ‏ ‏ فَحَجَلْتُ ‏ ‏وَرَاءَ ‏ ‏جَعْفَرٍ

Aswad narrated to us that Israil informed us from Abi Is-haaq from Haani ibn Haani from Ali ibn Abi Taalib that he said, I visited the Prophet (Sallallahu alayhi wa Sallam) with Jafar [ibn Abī Tālib] and Zayd [ibn Harithah]. The Prophet (Sallallāhu alayhi wa Sallam) said to Zayd, You are my freedman (mawlāi), whereupon Zayd began to Hajala (hop on one leg- a type of dancing) around the Prophet (Sallallāhu alayhi wa Sallam). The Prophet (Sallallāhu alayhi wa Sallam) then said to Jafar: You resemble me in my physical form and character (Khalqī wa Khuluqī), whereupon Jafar began to do the same behind Zayd. The Nabi (Sallallāhu alayhi wa Sallam) then said to me, You are a part of me and I am a part of you (anta minnī wa anā mink) whereupon I began to do the same behind Jafar.

References

►This is reported by Imām Ahmad in his Musnad (1:537 #857)2.

► Ash-Shākir declared it authentic in his review of the Musnad.

► Al-Bazzār in his Musnad with a sound chain according to Imām Al-Haythamī in his Majma Az-Zawāid (5:157).

►Also reported by Imām Al-Bayhaqī in his Sunan Al-Kubrā (8:6 #15548, 20816)

►as well as Ibn Abī Shaybah in his Musannaf.

►Ibn Saad reported this in Mursal form in his Tabaqāt, 4:22.




Authenticity of Above Hadith

Regarding one narrator Hani bin Hani who some ignorants use to prove above hadith weak

Imam Dhahabi (rah) said in full in his Meezan,

هانئ بن هانئ عن على رضى الله عنه. قال ابن المدينى: مجهول. وقال النسائي: ليس به بأس. وذكره ابن حبان في الثقات

Translation: Hani bin Hani narrated from Ali (Radhi Allaho Anho). Ibn Mudayni said he is Majhool. Imam Nasai (rah) said: THERE IS NO HARM IN HIM and Ibn Hibban mentioned him in his THIQAAT (Reliable narrators) [Mizan ul Aitidal (7/71)]


Imam Tirimdhi declared many ahadith from Hani bin Hani as HASAN SAHIH [SunnanTirimdhi Volume No.5, Hadith #3798]

Imam Ibn Majah (rah) narrated from him and did Sukoot [Sunnan Ibn Majah, Muqadma, Hadith # 143]

Imam Ibn Hibban mentioned him in his Kitab ul Thiqaat (5/508)

Muhadith Shaykh Ahmad Shaakir in his Tahqiq of Musnad Ahmad where he said: Its chain is sound (إسناده صحيح) [Musnad Ahmad Volume 001, Page No. 537, Hadith Number 857, FN: 2]

Imam Ibn Hajr al Haythami (rah) said about ahadith having Hani bin Hani

ورجال أحمد والبزار رجال الصحيح غير هانىء بن هانىء وهو ثقة

Translation: The Rijaal of Ahmed and Bazaar are those of Sahih except Hani bin Hani who is THIQA [Majma az Zawaid (8/102)]

Imam Hakim declared ahadith from Hani bin Hani as SAHIH [Mustadrak al Hakim (3/179)]



Imam al Ajli (rah) said:

1885 ـ هانىء ابن هانىء، كوفي، تابعي ثقة.

Translation: Hani bin Hani, Kufi TABI AND THIQA [Thiqat al Ajli Volume No.1, Page No. 454]

Even famous and controversial Wahabi[salafi ] sheikh Nasir ud-din Albani declared ahadith from Hani bin Hani as SAHIH [Sahih Sunnan Ibn Majah by Albani, (1/119)

Scanned page of above hadith from Musnad of Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal [rah]

Also


Imam Baihaqi (rah) proves Raqs from this hadith

Shaykh ul Islam Ibn Hajr Haythami (rah) said: All narrators are those of Sahih (رجاله رجال الصحيح) [Majma Az-Zawaid, Volume 005, Page No. 157]


Imam Bayhaqi made a whole chapter on permissibility of Raqs and after citing this hadith he said: In this (hadith) isSAHIH PROOF and "PERMISSIBILITY" of hoping (dancing) which includes RISING UP OR JUMPING IN STATE OF JOY and also that of doing RAQS which is similar to it [Sunnan al Baihaqi al Kubra (15/333)]

Imam Bayhaqi also states in Shuyb ul Imaan:

وأما الرقص فإن لم يكن فيه تكسر وتخنث فلا بأس فإنه روي أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
قال لزيد أنت مولانا فحجل وهو أن يرفع رجلا ويقفز إلى الأخرى من

الفرح وقال لجعفر أشبهت خلقي وخلقي فحجل

Translation: As regarding Raqs If it does not include going wild and one does not act like the women then THERE IS NO HARM IN IT as the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said to Zayd (ra): You are my freedman (anta Mawlay), at this Zayd began to hop on one leg (hajala) around the Prophet (Peace be upon him), and he did this in joy, then the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said to Jafar (ra): You resemble me in my creation and my manners, at this Jafar also began to hop behind Zayd [Shuyb ul Imaan, Volume No.4, Page No. 483-484]




Imam Ibn Hajar Asqalani (rah) said : Yes! Verily Jafar ibn Abi Taalib Radhiya Allahu Anhu did raqsin the presence of Rasulullah when he told Jafar You resemble me in my created form and in my character. It would have been necessary for the Nabi (alayhis salaam) to clarify whether it was halaal or haraam, yet the Nabi (alayhis salaam) did not reject it. This is known in Mustalah Al-Hadith as Iqraar, or the acceptance and approval of the Prophet Muhammad . And the Nabi (alayhis salaam) would not have remained silent regarding the Haraam (forbidden) or the Makruh (hated).

Reference

► Shaykh Yusuf Khattaar Muhammad references As-Suyutis quote from As-Sayf Al-Qaati and also Al-Ilhamaat Al-Ilhiyah of Shaykh Mahmuh Abi Shaamaat; See the Mawsuah page 185 published in Damascus in 1999, third edition




Imam Jalal ud din Suyuti [rah]proves Raqs [dancing] in Love of Allah from Quran and Hadiths

وكيف ينكر الذكر قائما والقيام ذاكرا وقد قال الله تعالى (الذين يذكرون الله قياما وقعودا وعلى جنوبهم) وقالت عائشة رضي الله عنها كان النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم يذكر الله على كل أحيانه، وإن انضم إلى هذا القيام رقص أو نحوه فلا إنكار عليهم فذلك من لذات الشهود أو المواجيد وقد ورد في الحديث رقص جعفر بن أبي طالب بين يدي النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم لما قال له أشبهت خلقي وخلقي وذلك من لذة هذا الخطاب ولم ينكر ذلك عليه النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم فكان هذا أصلا في رقص الصوفية لما يدركونه من لذات المواجيد وقد صح القيام والرقص في مجالس الذكر والسماع عن جماعة من كبار الأئمة منهم شيخ الإسلام عز الدين بن عبد السلام.

How can one condemn making dhikr while standing, or standing while making dhikr, when Allah says, . . . those who invoke Allah standing, sitting, and upon their sides Quran 3:191. And Hazrat A`isha Siddiqa (RA) said, The Prophet (SAW) used to invoke Allah at all of his times. Sahih Muslim, 1.282: 373 And if dancing is added to this standing, it may not be condemned, as it is of the joy of spiritual vision and ecstasy, and It is mentioned in the hadith that Ja`far ibn Abi Talib (RA) danced in front of the Prophet (Ssalallaho alaihi wasalam) when the Prophet (Salallaho alaihi wasalam) told him, You resemble me in looks and in character, dancing from the happiness he felt from being thus addressed, and the Prophet did not condemn him for doing so, this being a basis for the legal acceptability of the Sufis dancing from the joys of the ecstasies they experience. ..Hence it is correct to stand and dance during gatherings of Dhikr and Sama according to a group of great scholars, among them being Shaykh al- Islam Izz ud-din bin Abdus Salam.[Imam Jalal ud din Suyuti in Al-Hawi lil Fatawi, Volume No. 2, Page No. 406, Maktaba al Asriyyah Edition].

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Imam Ghazali (rah) in His Ihya reported Same hadith an supported Raqs too


He [rah] states in his Ihya uloom ud din , vol 2, Pg 179

لأدب الرابع‏:‏ أن لا يقوم ولا يرفع صوته بالبكاء وهو يقدر على ضبط نفسه ولكن إن رقص أو تباكى فهو مباح فيجوز تحريكه‏.‏
ولو كان ذلك حراماً لما نظرت عائشة رضي الله عنها إلى الحبشة مع رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وهم يزفنون هذا لفظ عائشة رضي الله عنها في بعض الروايات‏.‏
وقد روي عن جماعة من الصحابة رضي الله عنهم أنهم حجلوا لما ورد عليهم سرور أوجب ذلك وذلك في قصة ابنة حمزة لما اختصم فيها على بن أبي طالب وأخوه جعفر وزيد بن حارثة رضي الله عنهم فتشاحوا في تربيتها فقال صلى الله عليه وسلم لعلي ‏‏ أنت مني وأنا منك ‏‏ فحجل علي وقال لجعفر ‏‏ أشبهت خلقي وخلقي ‏‏ فحجل وراء حجل علي وقال لزيد ‏‏ أنت أخوناً ومولانا ‏‏ فحجل زيد وراء حجل جعفر ثم قال عليه السلام ‏‏ هي لجعفر لأن خالتها تحته والخالة والدة ‏‏ وفي رواية أنه قال لعائشة رضي الله عنها ‏‏ أتحبين أن تنظري إلى زفن الحبشة ‏‏ والزفن والحجل هو الرقص

Imam Ibn Hajar Al-Haytami said

وقد صحَّ القيامُ والرقصُ في مجالس الذكر والسماع عن جماعة من كبار الأئمة منهم عزّ الدين شيخ الإسلام ابن عبد السلام
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"It is permissible to stand and dance during gatherings of remembrance and audition according to a group of great scholars, among them being Shaykh Al-Islam Ibn Abdussalam." (فتاويه الحديثية pg. 298 )


Regarding Shaikh Izz Ad din it states:

"kana yahduru al sama` wa yarqusu wa yatawajadu"

meaning:


" (He) attended the sama` and danced in states of ecstasy"

This is reported by Nabahani in his Jami Karamat Al Awliya




Views of Ibn Kathir

ابن زين الدين علي بن تبكتكين أحد الأجواد والسادات الكبراء والملوك الأمجاد، له آثار حسنة وقد عمر الجامع المظفري بسفح قاسيون، وكان قدهم بسياقه الماء إليه من ماء بذيرة فمنعه المعظم من ذلك، واعتل بأنه قد يمر على مقابر المسلمين بالسفوح، وكان يعمل المولد الشريف في ربيع الأول ويحتفل به احتفالا هائلا.
وكان مع ذلك شهما شجاعا فاتكا بطلا عاقلا عالما عادلا رحمه الله وأكرم مثواه.
وقد صنف الشيخ أبو الخطاب ابن دحية له مجلدا في المولد النبوي سماه: (التنوير في مولد البشير النذير)، فأجازه على ذلك بألف دينار، وقد طالت مدته في الملك في زمان الدولة الصلاحية، وقد كان محاصر عكا وإلى هذه السنة محمود السيرة والسريرة.
قال السبط: حكى بعض من حضر سماط المظفر في بعض الموالد كان يمد في ذلك السماط خمسة آلاف رأس مشوي، وعشرة آلاف دجاجة، ومائة ألف زبدية، وثلاثين ألف صحن حلوى، قال: وكان يحضر عنده في المولد أعيان العلماء والصوفية فيخلع عليهم ويطلق لهم ويعمل للصوفية سماعا من الظهر إلى الفجر، ويرقص بنفسه معهم، وكانت له دار ضيافة للوافدين من أي جهة على أي صفة، وكانت صدقاته في جميع القرب والطاعات على الحرمين وغيرهما، ويتفك من الفرنج في كل سنة خلقا من الأسارى.
حتى قيل إن جملة من استفكه من أيديهم ستون ألف أسير، قالت: زوجته ربيعة خاتون بنت أيوب - وكان قد زوجه إياها أخوها صلاح الدين، لما كان معه على عكا - قالت: كان قميصه لا يساوي خمسة دراهم فعاتبته بذلك فقال: لبسي ثوبا بخمسة وأتصدق بالباقي خير من أن البس ثوبا مثمنا وأدع الفقير المسكين، وكان يصرف على المولد في كل سنة ثلاثمائة ألف دينار، وعلى دار الضيافة في كل سنة مائة ألف دينار.
وعلى الحرمين والمياه بدرب الحجاز ثلاثين ألف دينار سوى صدقات السر، رحمه الله تعالى، وكانت وفاته بقلعة إربل، وأوصى أن يحمل إلى مكة فلم يتفق فدفن بمشهد علي.
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Translation :
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I say that the Shah of Irbil. Malik Muzzafar Abu Saed Kokabri Ibn Zayn-ud-din Ali bin Tabaktakin was a "GENEROUS, MIGHTY MASTER AND UPRIGHT RULER AND HIS WORKS WERE VERY GOOD" . He built Jamiya al Muzaffari near Qasiyunالشريف في ربيع الاول ويحتفل به احتفا




"CELEBRATE MAWLID ASH-SHARIF WITH GREAT CELEBRATION (وكان يعمل المولد الشريف في ربيع الاول ويحتفل به احتفالا )" Moreover, he was "BENEVOLENT, BRAVE, WISE, A SCHOLAR AND JUST PERSON" Rahimuhullah wal Ikraam Sheikh Abul Khattab (rah) wrote a book on Mawlid an Nabwi for him and named it At-Tanwir fi Mawlid al Bashir al Nazeer, for which he gave him 1000 dinars. His rule stayed till the Rule of Salahiya and he captured Aka and he remained a man worthy of respect. Al-Sabt mentions that a person attending the gathering of Mawlid held by Muzzafar said: He used to fill the table with 5000 well cooked goats, 10,000 *****ens, 100-thousand bowls (of milk) and 30,000 trays of sweets.


The narrator explains that During Mawlid he used to hold great gathering of "SUFIS AND ULAMA AND HE USED TO GRANT THEM GIFTS": He used to arrange Sama for Sufis from Dhuhr till Asr IN WHICH HE HIMSELF DID RAQS. and he had built a Dar ul Ziafat for everyone who came no matter what position the person held, and he used to give sadaqat for Haramain Shareefain and also used to get many prisoners free from Farangis (i.e. white people probably Christians/Jews), It is said that he got 60,000 prisoners free from them.


His wife Rabiya bint Ayyub "WHO WAS MARRIED TO HIM BY HER BROTHER SALAH UD-DIN AYYUBI (Rahimuhullah), she says that his shirt was not even worth 5 Dirhams, so she complained to him about it at which he replied: For me to wear shirt of 5 Dirhams only and give remaining as Sadaqa is better than wearing expensive clothes or to leave the Fuqara and Masakeen. He used to spend Three hundred thousand Dinaar on Mawlid every year, Hundred thousand Dinar on welcoming guests, and 30,000 dinars to provide water for Pilgrims on travel Rahimuhullah -
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[Imam al Hafidh Ibn Kathir in Al Bidayah Wal Nihayah, Volume No.13, Page Nos. 174-175]







Now on issue of Wajd, Ecstasy , Swoon

Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal(ra) said about the Sufis Ecstasy

He said "I don't know people better than them." Someone said to him: "They listen to sama and they reach states of ecstasy." He said: " Do you prevent them from enjoying an hour with Allah?"

Reference :

[From Muhammad ibn Ahmad al-Saffarini al-Hanbali (died 1188) who related in his Ghidha' al-albab li-sharh manzumat al-adab from Ibrahim ibn `Abd Allah al-Qalanasi) (Cairo: Matba`at al-Najah, 1324/1906)]





Imam Ghazali [rah] mentioned Mentions Sahabas (ra), Salafs [rah] in extreme Ecstasy in Ihya uloom ud din , vol 2[/SIZE]

Imam Abu'l Husayn al-warraq (rah)

Said that The way to God is difficult for one who does not come upon it with overwhelming enthusiasm (Wajd) and passionate desire.



Abu Hamza al khurasani [rah]

Said that HE heard his companions censuring another for being overcome by wajd ,and showing his inner state in a gathering where there were opponents of sama.Abu hamza (Rah) told him to stop his scolding for wajd obliterate distinctions,one should not be censured for being over come by wajd which is involuntary act, Then he quoted the verses from books of Moulana Rumi (rah) (d.283/896)



Abu abd Allah al subayhi [rah]

said When wajd is genuine it should be upheld and defended, no one should be allowed to speak disparagingly of an altered state(hal)
He again said " The most complete form of fear is the one which takes characteristics of wajd, not from loss of some thing hoped for or desired



Imam Al kattani [rah]

said that the listener of sama ought to find more than just refershment,it causes wajd ,or being over whlemed, which destroys every settled and familiar nothing



Abu Ali ad daqqaq [rah] said

that Abu l Husayn An Nuri (Rah) writes
For 20 years I was between wajd and faqd,when I found my lord I lost my heart and when I found my heart I lost my lord



Imam Siraaj [rah] in his kitab ul luma

writes and gives authentic proofs of Prophet (Saw) and Sahabis (ra) going into wajd state several times, on hearing Quran




Sulami stated that Imam Junayd(rah) said,

"Nearness through ecstasy (wajd) is 'in-gathering' (jam'); and absence through humanness is separation (tafriqah)."



Ibn E Taymiyyah on wajd

Book: Al Ubudiyyah: Being A True Slave Of Allah
Author: Ibn Taymiyah
Published: Ta-Ha Publishers
Adress: 1 Wynne Road, London,
PostCode: SW9 0BB
Country: UK

Page Number: 126
Chapter: Fana {"Oblivion"**

"An example of this is the concept of Fana {extinction of individual consciouness, recedence of the ego, obliteration of the self**. Fana is of three types:

1** The fana of the Prophets and Awliyah {Fana Fir'Rasool' & Fana Fil Awliyah** who have attained perfection.
2**The Fana of the Awliyah and the righteous peopl who are striving in the right direction even though they are not perfect.

Page Number: 127

3** The Fana of the hypocrites and heretics who liken Allah to His creation.

The first type of fana means the oblertation of the desire for anything except Allah so that a person does not love anyone or anything except Allah he does not worship anything except Him, he does not rely on anyone except Him and he deos not ask from anyone except Him. This is the sense which should be understood from the words of Seikh Abu Yazid {Al Bistami**: "I want to not to want anything except what He wants, what Pleases the beloved {Allah**." This is what is meant by the religios will of Allah. Perfection means that a man does not want love or like anything except what Allah wants loves and likes which is what He as caommanded and made wajib or mustahab. He only loves those whom Allah loves and such as the Angles, Prophets, and the righteous people. This is what is meant by their intrepration of the Ayah:



This is what is meant by their intrepration of the Ayah: "But only he will prosper who bring to Allah a sound heart." {26:89** They said its is sound and safe from evertthing ecept being a slave of Allah or everything ecvept wanting what Allah wants or everything except Loivng Allah. The meaning is the same and whether its is called fana or not it is the begining and end of Islam the foucus of entire religion."



The second type of fana is oblivion towards others which is attained by many of those who follow the path {triqah**, because their hearts are strongly attracted to remembering, wroshipping and loving Allah and distracted from noticing anyone or anything else. Nothing crosses their minds except thoughts of Allah; they are not even aware of anythng else, as was said in the interpretation of the ayah: "But there came to be a void in the heart of the mother of Musa. she was going almost to disclose his {case**, had We not strenthen her heart {with faith** ..." [28:10** They said: her heart was oblivious to ...
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Page Number: 128

... everything except thoughts of Musa which is the kind of thing that often happens to thouse who are overwhelmed with some concern whether it be love or hope or fear - the heart is disracted from everything except that which is loved or hoped for or feared, so that it is unaware of anything else.
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If this kind of fana overwhelms a person his focus on Allah becomes so intense that he is no longer aware of anything else, not his own existance or the dhikr he is doing and everything diminishes in his senses, every created being the person, himself and everyone else and there remains only the Lord. What is meant is that everything is diminished in persons perception, so that he longer notices or remebers anything, and is quite oblivious to what is going on around him.



If this feeling becomes so strong that the person becomes confused and can no longer make proper distinctions he may think that he is his beloved, as it was said that a man fell into the water and the one who loved him threw himself in after him. The former said: "I fell in by accident; what made you fall?" and the later replied: "I was so overwhelmed with love for you that i thought I was you."
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The idea as caused many people to stumble so that they thought in the terms of phisical unity whereby there is no longer any difference between a person and the object of his love. This is incorrect, for the Creator can not be united with anything else without becoming somehting else altogather; ther essecne of the two things is lost when they unite, and they become a third of thing, neither this nor that as is the case when water and milk are mixed togather, or water or wine and so on. But what is loved and wanted by both becomes one, and what is hated and loathed by both becomes one, so they love ...



on page 129 ibn taymiyyah states about salafs


....... at the time of the Tabi'in, among the worshippers of Al Basra, among whom were some who would swooon or even die when they heard the Quran, such as Abu Juhayr Al Darir and Zararah Ibn Awfa the Qadi of Al Basra.


Some of the Sufi Shaykhs experience this kind of oblivios and and intoxication where they are unable to make proper distinctions, and when they are in that state they may say words which when they come round they realise are wrong

,. Such stories are reported about ...


... acetics such as Abu Yazid {al Bistami**, Abu'l Hasan Al Nuri and Abu Bakr Al Shibli and so on ...



on Page Number: 130


... unlike Abu Sulayman Al Darini, Maruf Al Khar'ki, and Al Fudayl Ibn Ayyad, let alone Al Junayd {Al Baghdadi** and so on, who remained of the sound mind throughou all their experiences and who never rell into states of oblivion or intoxication, etc. Those who have reached a level ofperfection have nothing in theri hearts except love of Allah and the desire to worship Him alone.[Book: Al Ubudiyyah: Being A True Slave Of Allahm Ta-Ha Publishers]




Ibn Taymiyyah again said again


The second category consists of those sufis whose experience of fana and intoxication (sukr) weakened their sense of discrimination, and made them utter words that they later realized to be erroneous when they became sober


► Majmu Fatawa vol. 10, pp. 220-1

 

[smalltimepro]

I think Sufism is a bridge between Islam and Hinduism. Could somebody comment?

It would be hard to pin just Hinduism as the culprit for creating such innovations and deviations in Islam. In reality, if you notice it is in mans nature to divulge himself of boundaries and limitations, wheather political or religious. The inclusion of dance and music in religion only attempts to free an individual from responsibilities and limitations placed on man by his creator.

Hence in all religions you may notice a very immediate addition of music and dance. The actual subliminal motive is to dilute the truth and make it meaningless. This is exactly why, supporters of such practices would brand every religion as religion of the same god and hence equally practicible. While it is true that most religions are divine and originated from Allah, all of these have been modified and impurified, intentionally and unintentionally by followers.

To say that a person can seek God in any religion, wheather christianity, hinduism or judiasm is to say that the life of Prophet Muhammed was utterly useless and without purpose. That is not true.

In its true form, every devine religion is a message of practical social living. Law. Honesty. Peity. Thankfulness to Allah and Purity. No prophet has every preached rituals that involve music and dance, and that is a good enough reason to completely avoid them as tools of religious expression. They are nothing but distractions.

Sad news is, that Islam is now as modified as Christianity and Judiasm is. This documentary is only a proof of that statement. The only thing that differentiates us is the book and way of the prophet. Let us all who seek Allah forgiveness stick to these gifts of Allah.

May Allah gives us all guidance to the right path.

 

[Cheeko]

Najdis read your books complete.

Shaikh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyya's Opinion on the Celebration of the Mawlid ​

This is Imam Ibn Taymiyya's opinion about Mawlid from: "the Collected Fatwas," ("Majma' Fatawi Ibn Taymiyya,") Vol. 23, p. 163: "fa-t'adheem al-Mawlid wat-tikhaadhuhu mawsiman qad yaf'alahu ba'ad an-naasi wa yakunu lahu feehi ajra `adheem lihusni qasdihi t'adheemihi li-Rasulillahi, salla-Allahu `alayhi wa sallam"

"To celebrate and to honor the birth of the Prophet (s) and to take it as an honored season, as some of the people are doing, is good and in it there is a great reward, because of their good intentions in honoring the Prophet (s)."

Ibn Qayyim's Opinion on Recitation of the Prophet's (s) Birthday ​

Allama Ibn Qayyim al Jawziyyah, the best and most reknowned student of Shaikh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyya, writes, on page 498 of "Madarij as-Salikin,"

"Listening to a good voice celebrating the birthday of the Prophet (s) or celebrating any of the holy days in our history gives peace to the heart, and gives the listener light from the Prophet (s) to his heart, and he will drink more from the Muhammadan spring (`ayn al-Muhammadiyya)."

Ibn Kathir Praises the Night of Mawlid ​

One of the most reknowned scholars is Ibn Kathir. Ibn Kathir was a muhaddith from the followers of Shaikh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyya, rahmatullah `alayh. Ibn Kathir, in the last days of his life wrote a book entitled "Mawlid Rasul Allah (s)" which was spread far and wide. That book mentioned the permissibility and recommendability of celebrating the Mawlid.

Ibn Kathir says in the aforementioned book, p. 19:
"The Night of the Prophet's (s) birth is a magnificent, noble, blessed and holy night, a night of bliss for the believers, pure, radiant with lights and of immeasurable price."

Shaikh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyya Said: "Laylat al-'Israa' wal-Mi'raj is Greater than Laylat al-Qadr"


Imam Ibn Taymiyya said that Laylat al-'Israa' wal-Mi'raj was better than Laylat al-Qadr. He is quoted by Ibn Qayyim in the latter's book, "al-Badaa'i," Vol. 3, page 162: "wa suila shaikh ul-Islam `an Laylat ul-Qadri wa Laylat ul- 'Israai' ayyuhuma afdal? Fa-ajaaba bi-anna Laylat ul-'Israai' afdal fee haqq in-Nabee"

"Shaikh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyya was asked, `Which is better, Laylat al-Qadr or Laylat al-'Israa'?' and he answered, `With respect to the Prophet (s), Laylat al-'Israa' is better than Laylat al-Qadr.'"

The Importance of Laylat al-Mawlid ​

Now we ask: If Ibn Taymiyya accepted that Laylat al-'Israa' may be considered better than Laylat ul-Qadr, why not consider that Laylat al-Mawlid is better than Laylat al-'Israa', since the Night of the Prophet's (s) Birth is the night in which was born the one who went to `Isra' and Mi'raaj? Therefore we say, as Ibn Marzuq, the reknowned student of Imam Nawawi said: "Laylat al-Mawlid is better than Laylat al-Qadr."

Ibn Kathir Mentions The Prophet (s) Accepting Poetry in His Honor ​

In the time of the Prophet (s), it is well-known that poets came to him with all kinds of works praising him, writing about his campaigns and battles and about the Sahaba. This is proved by the numerous poems quoted in the Siras of Ibn Hisham, al-Waqidi, and others. The Prophet (s) was happy with good poetry. It is reported in Bukhari's "al-Adab al-Mufrad" that he said: "There is wisdom in poetry."


Ibn Kathir says in his "Mawlid," page 30: "The Prophet's (s) uncle al-'Abbas (r) composed poetry praising the birth of the Prophet (s), in which are found the following lines: `When you were born, the earth was shining, and the firmament barely contained your light, and we can pierce through, thanks to that radiance and light and path of guidance.'"

Ibn Kathir mentions the fact that according to the Sahaba, the Prophet (s) praised his own name and recited poetry about himself in the middle of the battle of Hunayn in order to encourage the Companions and frighten the enemies. That day he said (s): "Ana an-Nabee, laa kadhib Ana ibn `abd al-Muttalib" meaning: "I am the Prophet! This is no lie. I am the son of `Abd al-Muttalib!"

Ibn Qayyim on the Singing and Recitation of Poetry ​

`Allama Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya wrote in his book "Madarij as- Salikin," Vol. 1:
"the Prophet (s) also gave permission to sing in wedding celebrations, and allowed poetry to be recited to him. He heard Anas (r) and the Companions praising him and reciting poems while digging before the famous battle of the Trench (Khandaq) as they said: "We are the ones who gave bay'ah to Muhammad for jihad as long as we are living."

Ibn Qayyim also mentions `Abdullah ibn Rawaha's long poem praising the Prophet (s) as the latter entered Mecca, after which, the Prophet (s) prayed for him. He prayed that Allah support Hassan, another poet, with the Holy Spirit as long as he would support the Prophet (s) with his poetry. Similarly the Prophet (s) rewarded Ka'b ibn Zubayr's poem of praise with a robe. Ibn Qayyim continues, "`A'isha always recited poems praising him and he was happy with her."

Ibn Qayyim on the Melodious Recitation of Qur'an ​

Ibn al-Qayyim says in the same book, page 488, "Allah gave permission to his Prophet (s) to recite the Qur`an in a melodious way. "

Ibn Qayyim continues, "The Prophet (s) said, `Decorate the Qur'an with your voices,' and `Who does not sing the Qur'an is not from us.' Ibn Qayyim comments on page 490: "To take pleasure in a good voice is acceptable, as is taking pleasure from nice scenery, such as mountains or nature, or from a nice smell, or from good food, as long as it is conforming to shari'a. If listening to a good voice is haram, then taking pleasure in all these other things is also haram."

Ibn Taymiyya's Opinion on the Meetings of Dhikr ​

The following is the opinion of Shaikh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyya on meetings of dhikr. It can be found in Vol. 22, page 253 of the Collected Fatwas, King Khalid ibn `Abdul `Aziz edition ("Majma'a Fatawa Ibn Taymiyya"):

Ibn Taymiyya was asked about people that gather in a masjid making dhikr and reading Qur'an, praying to Allah and taking their turbans off their heads (leaving their heads bare) and crying, while their intention is not pride nor showing off but seeking to draw closer to Allah: is it acceptable or not?
He replied: Not only is it acceptable but it is good and recommended.


Wa min Allah at-tawfiq (from Allah is all success).
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Ibn Taymiyya was asked about people that gather in a masjid making dhikr and reading Qur'an, praying to Allah and taking their turbans off their heads (leaving their heads bare) and crying, while their intention is not pride nor showing off but seeking to draw closer to Allah: is it acceptable or not?
He replied: Not only is it acceptable but it is good and recommended.


Wa min Allah at-tawfiq (from Allah is all success).
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Tell me in which authentic hadeeth our beloved Prophet pbuh preached this Amal:

Please do not quote the hadith that After the consummation of my marriage, the Prophet came and sat on my bed as far from me as you are sitting now, and our little girls started beating the tambourines (daff) and reciting elegiac verses......

 

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Tell me in which authentic hadeeth our beloved Prophet preached this Amal:

Please do not quote the hadith that some small girls were dancing.....

Avoid showing me videos in which people transgress the boundaries in my personal opinion. Some videos you showed like sticking of knives in ones head can be called a performance but not an Islamic ritual. Similarly women doing raqs with jeans and stuff is also just a performance and not an Islamic ritual. So your conjectures by mixing and twisting are just baseless and reveals your true intentions of befooling people and to call them towards najdism with your fake propoganda.

I have shown you the Hadees which tells about wajd. All these are authentic and non of the Hadees that I showed are zaeef. I challenge you to prove them as zaeef.

No one has told that remembering Allah by zikr and going into wajd is prohibited from any source and yet your inquisition of whether the Last Messenger peace be upon him preached it or not only reveals your malintentions. Last Messenger peace be upon him has allowed to do all this during festivities and I never told that this is some farz act to be done five times a day. All actions that he doesnt specifically prohibits happening in front of him stand allowed. A person who doesnt starts his day early morning with Fajar prayers and instead involves in irrelevant actions is wrong. So all this I told is to give documentary evidence that this isnt forbidden. Remembering Allah while sitting and standing and on the side is even told in Quran. If someone apart from the minimum required farz actions of salat and zakat and fasting and hajj still remembers Allah or attracts people especially non-muslims towards Him then there is nothing wrong in it.