Imran Khan 15 years ago - a video from 1996
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I think marriage is a personal matter. Let's keep it that way. Consistency in his vision and policies is what we're talking about here.
yr maine yeah baat bohat jaga suni hai bari dafa koshish ki k choop rahon is imran khan ki shadhi wale mamlay main jab b is k mukhaleef is pe elzaam lagte hain but not anymore main imran bhai k sab dushmanoo ko akh hi baat kahon ga k agar on ki shadi pe sab ko itna hi ghusa hai tu sab apni apni akh akh bheen ka rishta de dain ta k dobara phir koi imran bhai k kam se kam yeah thomaat tu nai lagaye ga na ,theek hai na "Temojin" .dobara imran bhai ki zaati zindagi khass toor pe shadi wali baat na kerna .
wah sahi tour pe apnay khandan ki akkasi ki hai aisi hee batein kerte hogey na tum ghar pe? mera simple question hai leader public figures aur jawabdeh hotey hain. yeh eik sawal hai, phir zardari, nawaz aur imran ke followers mein koi farq nahi ke voh un ko dewta samajhtay hain aur koi question nahi kerte hain.Allah tum pe rehmat kere aur apnay khandan ki beizzati kerne vala hone se bachaye. Hadith paak ka mafhoom hai ke badtareen shakhs hai voh jo apni maan behen ko gali de to Sihabah R.A ne arz ki ke voh kesa shakhs hoga (kionke aisa to koi nahi kerta) to jawab aaya ke voh jo doosre ki maan behen ko gali de aur phir doosra uski. to mein us cheez ka part nahi ban'na chahta verna tumhein pata hai agar mein boloon to internet pe to tumhein bhi dekh ke khoon ke ghoont hee peeney pareinge, pata nahi tumhari maan behen ne kia qusoor kia hoga jo unhein tum jesa beta aur bhai mila. Allah tum pe rahmat kere, eik question ka jawab dignity se dete hain fuzooliat se nahi.
Mate, it is more than a personal matter because if you are against pro israel and anti Pakistan people, you would never marry or make very good relations with such a family or would you? Same is the case here. It is a question and a very valid one.
Bhai Khuda ka naam lo ar is jhoty propaganda sey bahir niklo. Yeh jo chup chupa ker 3 ar 4 shadiya ker rhy hain sirf wohi momin ar muhab e watan hain hoy? ar shadi k baad b nhi manty k haan hum ney shadi ki hai. Bhai apny ander jhank ker dekho ager itna hi frishta sift ho tu samny a ker rahnumaee kro na k bila jawaz tankeed.
imyrathore
MPA (400+ posts)
I#m not sure what the link between consistency and marriage has got to do with things - he married the woman not the family.
My friend as far as I'm concerned he could have married anyone it doesn't matter - the fact is that he is far better than anyone of the rest of our so called pure leadership who may be married into Muslim families but in practice and reality ther deeds cant be called Islamic. How can you call yourself a true Muslim leader when you rob the people to accumulate wealth whilst your people die in misery. Sorry but we have a very selective way of judging things.
If you call this current status qou leadership shining examples of true muslims then you must be joking - we can give ourselves grand titles like Khadim Alaa but a chor is always a chor. If you want to talk standards around integrity and accountability then we have to look way back in history when some one like Hazrat Umar (razi allah Tal Anhu) said that even if a dog dies hungry on the banks of the river Euphrates, Umar will be responsible.
These so called leaders of PLMN, PPP, PLMNQ, ANP, MQM have no morals, self respect or any ounce of integrity. Ill give you an examaple, both Zardari n Nawaz were accused by leading British media houses of corruption - if they had any integrity they would have sued the pants off them but they chose to take the accusations on the chin because they knew that they would be ripped open by the likes of guardian / independent, BBC and the times. These may be biased but they cant just throw up allegations willy nilly - the libel laws are quite strict over here.
I may be taking a simplistic approach but i have seen Nawaz and zardri grow from middle the road businessmen to the billionaires they are now by robbing from the public purse. What sort of muslim are they. You know the example that comes to mind is a drug dealer who sells drugs all day and says his prayers 5 times on the dot - his argument is selling drugs is his business. I've known government workers who took bribes and were namaziz. This type of attitude is killing our society but we keep moving on with our eyes closed shut.
The jewish thing is a cheap shot.
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freshnkool
Minister (2k+ posts)
oh munafiq and lier even wife of our prophet hazat saffya was from jew family
oh munfiq and lier man go and read quran our Allah allows ahl-e-kitab women ( both jew and chrisitan)
oh munafiq and lier go and bring prof that jamima is pro-israel
oh munafiq and lier go give a single prof that ever jamima supported any crime committed by israel
oh munafiq and lier if you do not have prof then keep your dirty mouth shut otherwise first give prof and then put blames
Again it was Imran's personal choice to marry Jemima. She reverted to Islam and came to Pakistan. I personally haven't heard her or any member of her family say anything which can be called pro-Israel and/or anti-Pakistan. In fact, Jemima's brother Zac Goldsmith is actually anti-war (Imran helped in his campaign some time back) and both he and her mother believe in environmental causes. Her father was in politics, but more towards local Labour party issues. As for Jemima herself her works can be called anything but anti-Pakistan. According to Wikipedia:
"In 1998, Khan launched an eponymous fashion label that employed poor Pakistani women to embroider western clothes with eastern handiwork[SUP][29][/SUP] to be sold in London and New York.[SUP][30][/SUP][SUP][31][/SUP] Profits were donated to the Shaukat Khanum Memorial Cancer Hospital but the company was closed in 2001.[SUP][31][/SUP]In 2001, she established the Jemima Khan Afghan Refugee Appeal to provide tents, clothing, food, and healthcare for Afghan refugees at Jalozai camp in Peshawar.[SUP][32][/SUP][SUP][33][/SUP]
Khan became an Ambassador for UNICEF UK in 2001 and went on field trips to Kenya, Romania, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Pakistan, where she helped victims of the 2005 earthquake by raising emergency funds. She has promoted UNICEF's Breastfeeding Manifesto,[SUP][34][/SUP] Growing Up Alone[SUP][35][/SUP] and End Child Exploitation campaigns in the UK.[SUP][36][/SUP][SUP][37][/SUP]
Khan is a supporter of the Soil Association,[SUP][38][/SUP] and children's charities like HOPING foundation for Palestinian refugee children.[SUP][39][/SUP] She is a patron of the Quilliam Foundation, recently set up by two reformed members of the extremist organisation Hizb ut Tahrir. In 2008, Khan received death threats from Islamic fundamentalists for supporting and speaking at the launch of the Muslim think-tank which preaches religious tolerance.[SUP][40][/SUP]
In 2007, Khan set up the Free Pakistan Movement. She, her family and friends, participated alongside hundreds of protestors in three demonstrations outside Downing Street to protest the state of emergency in Pakistan, during which her ex-husband was incarcerated.[SUP][41][/SUP]
In 2008, she modeled the relaunched Azzaro Couture fragrance and was a guest co-designer of a Spring 2009 collection for Azzaro, with her fee reportedly donated to UNICEF.[SUP][42][/SUP][SUP][43][/SUP]
Together with John Pilger and Ken Loach, Jemima Khan was among the six people in Westminster Magistrates Court willing to post bail for Julian Assange when he was arrested in London on 7 December 2010. She has campaigned against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as for freedom of information, attending Assange’s extradition hearings and speaking at the Stop the War Coalition's rally in defence of Wikileaks alongside Tony Benn and Tariq Ali.
Khan runs a charitable foundation, the Jemima Khan Foundation.
She sponsors the Martha Gellhorn Prize for Journalism, an explicitly subversive award given to the journalist that best “exposes Establishment conduct and its propaganda”.[SUP][44][/SUP]
Khan featured in the new television advertising campaign for The Independent newspaper and reportedly donated her fee to charity."
So, I don't know from where you get this impression that Jemima's family is pro-Israel and anti-Pakistan. Maybe it's because it is a Jewish family in ancestory, though Jemima herself was raised as a Protestant Christian and her father was baptized as a Catholic. Even if they are Jews, we should understand that not every Jew is pro-Israel and pro-Zionism. There are many who are against it. People such as Zac Goldsmith, who campaigned on an anti-War slogan. You should think yourself too. How is it possible that a man such as Imran Khan, who has always given to Pakistan, first in cricket, then in social work and is known in politics to represent the voice of the people especially against US Imperialism, can marry in a family which is anti-Pakistan?
جمائمہ کا والد ایک عیسائی تھا نہ کہ یہودی،اور دوسری بات جمائمہ نے اسلام قبول کیا ھے،کیا تم نوازی پٹھو یہ گواہی دے سکتے ہو کہ اس نے اسلام قبول نہیں کیا، اگر سچے ھو اللہ کی قسم کھا کر لکھو کہ جمائمہ یہودی ھے،اگر نھیں کھا سکتے تو یہ اقرار کرو کہ تم سب بھتان باندھتے ہو۔اب جواب دینا بھاگنا مت۔ جھوٹوں پر اللہ کی لعنت۔
naeemk
MPA (400+ posts)
wesay jo kuch capt. safdar nai kia tha us ki bhi islami tareeqay se saza honi chahiye na ke mitti pao aur gal dabao.
vese language bohat acchi hai kuch logon ki. Portray exactly how the mental condition is right now. No worries. When did I say that he married in a jewish family or anything like that? I am not saying anything about religion or religious inclination. This is the problem, when people get emotional, they don't even read things properly. I am pointing the pro-Israel role of the goldsmiths throughout time. Does anyone know that they are the best friends of the rothschilds? Now pro-Israel means one thing only i.e anti-Pakistan or if anybody has a theory that being pro israel means being pro Pakistan too, I would be astonished to know so. It is a simple question for all the supermen who are trying to impress me (and yes some civil people too, thank them for that) and I am not impressed at all because I have seen people who use the filthiest of language but they are not good people so no need to be impressed.
Now read the question again.
Imran Khan claims to be pro-Pakistan since the beginning. Right?
Why did he get close to a family whose pro-israel record is not hidden from anyone who likes to research or knows about the international happenings. Keep the thing in mind that he first became very fast friends with jemima's brother so it was a matter of getting into the closest of friendship with a pro-israel family. Then he went for the person's sister (well! that would be unnecessary to discuss). The issue here will again remain the same upon his nationalistic stance. I am sorry to see that followers of imran khan are no different from jamiyyat followers or MSF followers.
And the funniest thing is that one is deemed a nawaz follower right away and this shows the lack of patience and the lack to actually do tahqeeq. I am not nawaz's follower in any sense alhamduliLlah but I do like the fact that we should be able to question our leaders and feel pity on imran khan whose followers are doing the same as followers of bhutto did to him and to nawaz the same i.e to get them to a place where anyone can't touch them. This is our collective mentality that if somebody follows zardari, he would kill for him, if somebody follows altaf, it is the same. What difference is between you and mqm followers who go to these boundaries without having a proper discussion? Again, not impressed at all and I could reply in the same manner but then there would be no difference. May Allah take pity on you all, tum sab pe rahmat farmaye.
Now read the question again.
Imran Khan claims to be pro-Pakistan since the beginning. Right?
Why did he get close to a family whose pro-israel record is not hidden from anyone who likes to research or knows about the international happenings. Keep the thing in mind that he first became very fast friends with jemima's brother so it was a matter of getting into the closest of friendship with a pro-israel family. Then he went for the person's sister (well! that would be unnecessary to discuss). The issue here will again remain the same upon his nationalistic stance. I am sorry to see that followers of imran khan are no different from jamiyyat followers or MSF followers.
And the funniest thing is that one is deemed a nawaz follower right away and this shows the lack of patience and the lack to actually do tahqeeq. I am not nawaz's follower in any sense alhamduliLlah but I do like the fact that we should be able to question our leaders and feel pity on imran khan whose followers are doing the same as followers of bhutto did to him and to nawaz the same i.e to get them to a place where anyone can't touch them. This is our collective mentality that if somebody follows zardari, he would kill for him, if somebody follows altaf, it is the same. What difference is between you and mqm followers who go to these boundaries without having a proper discussion? Again, not impressed at all and I could reply in the same manner but then there would be no difference. May Allah take pity on you all, tum sab pe rahmat farmaye.
bhai captain safdar ko bhaga bhaga ke maro mera kia lagta hai voh, he is a corrupt man. I myself was involved in an issue where I dealt with ayub mayo and safdar both and taught them a lesson so I have no issues. Hang them all but do have the ability to question your leaders about things rather than making them think they are invincible.
wez4all
MPA (400+ posts)
This video tells u ke jeet hamesha sach ki hoti hei. my leader had few people in his gathering back on 30-10-1996 and inshALLAH this 30-10-2011 minar-e-pakistan will be jam packed by youth of pakistan. It took him 15 years to be there where he is today the most popular leader of pakistan. During these 15 years he never gave up.
InshALLAH hum mnfaiq league ko uske home umpires ke bawajood uske home ground 'lahore' mein shikast dein ge.
InshALLAH hum mnfaiq league ko uske home umpires ke bawajood uske home ground 'lahore' mein shikast dein ge.
wez4all
MPA (400+ posts)
Brother our current leaders including army generals are american cronies. America does whatever israel wants her to do.
what made u think that israeli need to invest on imran to get their goals on pakistan.?
I think these current leaders serve their purpose far better than them have to wait for imran come into power.
Again, you are working on the assumption that Jemima's family is pro-Israel and thus anti-Pakistan. What leads you to conclude this? Are all Goldsmiths bound till eternity to support Israel and wars by the Zionist state? What does it mean when Jemima and Zac Goldsmith are known to have campaigned for anti-war causes, with Jemima going as far as to work for Palestinian Refugees?
P.S. AFAIK the Rothschilds were rivals of the Goldsmiths...
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