Zakir Naik and Camel

[Storm]

Chal abb peeeee or jeeeee

Narrated Anas:
The climate of Medina did not suit some people, so the Prophet (ﷺ) ordered them to follow his shepherd, i.e. his camels, and drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they followed the shepherd that is the camels and drank their milk and urine till their bodies became healthy. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels. When the news reached the Prophet (ﷺ) he sent some people in their pursuit. When they were brought, he cut their hands and feet and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron.

حَدَّثَنَا مُوسَى بْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ، حَدَّثَنَا هَمَّامٌ، عَنْ قَتَادَةَ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ أَنَّ نَاسًا، اجْتَوَوْا فِي الْمَدِينَةِ فَأَمَرَهُمُ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَنْ يَلْحَقُوا بِرَاعِيهِ ـ يَعْنِي الإِبِلَ ـ فَيَشْرَبُوا مِنْ أَلْبَانِهَا وَأَبْوَالِهَا، فَلَحِقُوا بِرَاعِيهِ فَشَرِبُوا مِنْ أَلْبَانِهَا وَأَبْوَالِهَا، حَتَّى صَلَحَتْ أَبْدَانُهُمْ فَقَتَلُوا الرَّاعِيَ وَسَاقُوا الإِبِلَ، فَبَلَغَ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَبَعَثَ فِي طَلَبِهِمْ، فَجِيءَ بِهِمْ فَقَطَعَ أَيْدِيَهُمْ وَأَرْجُلَهُمْ، وَسَمَرَ أَعْيُنَهُمْ‏.‏ قَالَ قَتَادَةُ فَحَدَّثَنِي مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ سِيرِينَ أَنَّ ذَلِكَ كَانَ قَبْلَ أَنْ تَنْزِلَ الْحُدُودُ‏.‏

Reference	: Sahih al-Bukhari 5686
In-book reference	: Book 76, Hadith 9
USC-MSA web (English) reference	: Vol. 7, Book 71, Hadith 590
(deprecated numbering scheme)

 

[Storm]

This for sensible people not for parvaizi fitna cult followers

 

[Wake up Pak]

Iss moulvi key ajeeb muntaq hay. Kehta hay kay Nabi Kareem ko wahi aai hogi kay inka ilaaj camel urine say hay. kaysay kaysay jahil mullah payda ho gaay hain.
Aik taraf hadith ko maantay hain aur dosri taraf deny kar rahay hain.

 

[Storm]

Iss moulvi key ajeeb muntaq hay. Kehta hay kay Nabi Kareem ko wahi aai hogi kay inka ilaaj camel urine say hay. kaysay kaysay jahil mullah payda ho gaay hain.
Aik taraf hadith ko maantay hain aur dosri taraf deny kar rahay hain.

jub aqal pr parda para ho to phir koi dalil samagh main nahi aati,

 

[Storm]

Iss moulvi key ajeeb muntaq hay. Kehta hay kay Nabi Kareem ko wahi aai hogi kay inka ilaaj camel urine say hay. kaysay kaysay jahil mullah payda ho gaay hain.
Aik taraf hadith ko maantay hain aur dosri taraf deny kar rahay hain.

tum kia tumhara baap bhe peeshab peeyea ga or jis janwar ka peeshab milay ga peeyea ga khud ka bhee peeshab peeyea ga aagr kabhe kisi sehra main bhatak gaya or kahin koi pani nahi mila

 

[A.G.Uddin]

Now all you mushriks can buy it beautiful bottles and packaging for only $6

Alwanoh | ألوانه

Jo munkare' Quran hotay hain woh tum jaysi aqal say aari baat kartay hain.

لگتا ہے ذاکر نائیک نے یہ وڈیو اونٹ کا پیشاب پی کر بنائی ہے اور زیادہ پینے سے اسکے دماغ کو پیشاب کا نشہ چڑھ گیا ہے اللہ اسے معاف کرے

Next is selecting a monkey sitting on Mimbar as cleric . If they can follow such narrations then there's a possibility

Narrated `Amr bin Maimun:
During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them.

حَدَّثَنَا نُعَيْمُ بْنُ حَمَّادٍ، حَدَّثَنَا هُشَيْمٌ، عَنْ حُصَيْنٍ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ مَيْمُونٍ، قَالَ رَأَيْتُ فِي الْجَاهِلِيَّةِ قِرْدَةً اجْتَمَعَ عَلَيْهَا قِرَدَةٌ قَدْ زَنَتْ، فَرَجَمُوهَا فَرَجَمْتُهَا مَعَهُمْ‏.‏

Reference	: Sahih al-Bukhari 3849
In-book reference	: Book 63, Hadith 74
USC-MSA web (English) reference	: Vol. 5, Book 58, Hadith 188
(deprecated numbering scheme)

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3849

 

[Wake up Pak]

Next is selecting a monkey sitting on Mimbar as cleric . If they can follow such narrations then there's a possibility

Narrated `Amr bin Maimun:
During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them.

حَدَّثَنَا نُعَيْمُ بْنُ حَمَّادٍ، حَدَّثَنَا هُشَيْمٌ، عَنْ حُصَيْنٍ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ مَيْمُونٍ، قَالَ رَأَيْتُ فِي الْجَاهِلِيَّةِ قِرْدَةً اجْتَمَعَ عَلَيْهَا قِرَدَةٌ قَدْ زَنَتْ، فَرَجَمُوهَا فَرَجَمْتُهَا مَعَهُمْ‏.‏

Reference	: Sahih al-Bukhari 3849
In-book reference	: Book 63, Hadith 74
USC-MSA web (English) reference	: Vol. 5, Book 58, Hadith 188
(deprecated numbering scheme)

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3849

Nice one! But our men-made book followers will deny this as well.

 

[Rambler]

Baba how can you even say such a thing. Ever read the Quran by mistake even? Have you see how much importance it gives to tazkiya/purity from which the word zakah is also derived. Then how can you say it is even remotely ok to ingest or apply such impurity and filth on one's body. Totally goes against the concept of tazkiya in the Quran.

The problem with the hadithist mushriks is they look at the Quran through the lens of their garbage books. Quran being the final authority is only in words for them when in reality they reject the teachings of the Quran and follow their garbage books which 99% of them haven't even read, like the example above. And then jahil mullahs promoting that garbage.

And no the discussion is NOT moot ( not mute ) because it has become a business where people are now being sold bottled camel piss claiming it has xyz properties because of some garbage hadith.

Saudia has spent billions chasing some kind of miracle cure for all sorts of things from headaches to cancer from camel piss. Even developing camel piss pills FFS! Money that could have been spent wisely elsewhere in just trying to prove some hadithist nonsense correct.

If you even for a second remotely believe in such garbage ( regardless if your practice it or not ) then there is no difference between you and hindus, because 99% of hindus also believe in the powers of gau muttar but only a tiny fraction actually practices drinking it.

I know my angreji is quite weak but if I wanted to say moot I would have written it like that so I would suggest not trying to be a smart ass with me. Now coming to the point - Camel urine was suggested as a remedy of an illness (probably for its antiseptic properties) and not as drink of choice to be savoured. In harsh desert conditions 1400 years ago such ailments were life threatening and saving life has precedence over any purity concerns. It was never prescribed as a panacea for all maladies or a wellness drink. Now what Saudi government or muslims in general do is none of my concern. Lastly hindus worship the cow and call it gao mata and consider its urine as sacred water. This is kampletely different from using camel urine in a particular illness 1400 years ago which in no way is prescribed or made manadatory to use for muslims.

 

[Wake up Pak]

jub aqal pr parda para ho to phir koi dalil samagh main nahi aati,

"Shall I seek OTHER THAN ALLAH as a source of law, when He has revealed THIS BOOK FULLY DETAILED? ....The word of your Lord is COMPLETE, in truth and Justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words; He is The Hearer, The Omniscient. Yet, if you obey the majority of people(today the majority of the last ummah follow Bukhari and Muslim), they(Bukhari-followers)will take you away from The Path of Allah (Al-Quraan alone). That is because they follow conjecture (he heard from his father, and he heard from his grandfather and heard from his grandfather, and so on), and they fail to think." (Al-Anaam:114-116)

 

[Citizen X]

suub choor , tu yea proof kr yea haram hy Quran sy wrna khud ja kr pee or apnay ghar walloo ko bhe peele jis tarhan tum logo ny Sharab ko halal kia hy

Another worthless argument by a hadithist mushrik. Whatever Allah has declared haram/forbidden he has mentioned clearly in the Quran. Beside that everything is allowed.

And the topic at hand is NOT if it is haram or halal, but rather how drinking camel piss is considered "holy and part of your madhab and some kind of miracle cure" and endorsed because of some garbage books.

And since you believe in that garbage, you go right ahead and drink as much camel piss as you like, since I don't subscribe to that nonsense so no thank you.

 

[Citizen X]

I know my angreji is quite weak but if I wanted to say moot I would have written it like

Well using mute instead of moot over there is incorrect. Hence I made the correction. You're welcome.

Camel urine was suggested as a remedy of an illness (probably for its antiseptic properties)

There is no real science that proves that, in fact quite the opposite by the WHO, other than so called research done by mushriks who want it to be.

 

[Citizen X]

Dear Jahil Patwari , yea farz hy peena yea bata , tum gali sari sharab pee skty ho vo bhe without any reason to tum ko camel urine peenay main kia issue.

LOL man you get dumber and dumber by the second.

 

[Citizen X]

This for sensible people not for parvaizi fitna cult followers

Aur is bhaand moulvi ko wahi hui thi ke huzoor ko wahi hui thi. Kya kya jhoot aur ghalazat Nabi pak per thoob dete hain yeh bhaand moulvi apni ghatiya kitaabon ko bachanay ke liye aur zara sa khuf e khuda nahi hai.

More than happy to throw the prophet and the Quran under the bus to protect their garbage books.

 

[Rambler]

Well using mute instead of moot over there is incorrect. Hence I made the correction. You're welcome.



There is no real science that proves that, in fact quite the opposite by the WHO, other than so called research done by mushriks who want it to be.

I use languages (the ones I know and use often) as slaves and not masters so go back and try to comprehend what I said,

If their is no real science, do not use it. Even the illness for which it was precsribed is not mentioned explicitly however try some for your twitch. Who knows - it might help.

 

[Citizen X]

"Shall I seek OTHER THAN ALLAH as a source of law, when He has revealed THIS BOOK FULLY DETAILED? ....The word of your Lord is COMPLETE, in truth and Justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words; He is The Hearer, The Omniscient. Yet, if you obey the majority of people(today the majority of the last ummah follow Bukhari and Muslim), they(Bukhari-followers)will take you away from The Path of Allah (Al-Quraan alone). That is because they follow conjecture (he heard from his father, and he heard from his grandfather and heard from his grandfather, and so on), and they fail to think." (Al-Anaam:114-116)

Kya yaar. Kya aab tak aap ko samaj mein nahi aaya. This guy is just another jahil religious patwari. English is ke sar ke ooper se nikal jaati hai. Roman urdu bhi itni tooti phooti likh tha hai ke ek saal laga ker samaj na pard tha hai ke kya bakwas ki hai.

Lekin urdu translation ka bhi kya faida, in mushrikeen ne kounsa Quran ko maan lena hai.

 

[Citizen X]

I use languages (the ones I know and use often) as slaves and not masters so go back and try to comprehend what I said,

If their is no real science, do not use it. Even the illness for which it was precsribed is not mentioned explicitly however try some for your twitch. Who knows - it might help.

Translation : I'm tapping out.

 

[Rambler]

Translation : I'm tapping out.

That is it ? I thought you would atleast give a good fight. Do try it for the twitch and let us know. Also never, ever try to act all angreji master with someone whose first language is not english. Adios amiga !!!

 

[Citizen X]

Someone whose first language is not english.

That is very evident it is not your first language as your comprehension skills are just as poor as your grammar ( English with a capital E and not lower case.)
You obviously missed the "Translation" bit and got distracted by the pretty pictures!

 

[Storm]

LOL man you get dumber and dumber by the second.

look whose talking the legendary dumb himself

 

[Storm]

Aur is bhaand moulvi ko wahi hui thi ke huzoor ko wahi hui thi. Kya kya jhoot aur ghalazat Nabi pak per thoob dete hain yeh bhaand moulvi apni ghatiya kitaabon ko bachanay ke liye aur zara sa khuf e khuda nahi hai.

More than happy to throw the prophet and the Quran under the bus to protect their garbage books.

bhand marasi to taray molvi hain jis ko mohallay ki hasid zada jalan sy bhari hui aurat ki tarahn bus suub khalat deekhtay hain,

tum logo ka propoganda or agenda aab khatam aab internet ka daur hy suub kuch black and white main hy haan tumhari tarhan aqal sy paidal ho to internet bhe kuch nahi begar skta enjoy kro apni maadar peedar life ,

maadar peedar sy yaad aaya tumhari ammi abbu ka nikal hua tha ya bus aisay he qa rahna shru kr dia or kaha shadi ho gae ??????????

aab yea na bolna off topic hy bhai yea bhe topic hy khud ki marzi ka rofl