Asad Mujtaba
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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Protester praying thrown out of the triple high container by Rangers.
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patwari_sab
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
napakfouj
Yeh jo kr rhy ho btao kis munh sy Kashmeer ar Gaza k.muslmano sy izha r yakjehti krty ho?
Kon c foj hai jo hamesha apny hi hum watnu ko fatah krny k liy fzaee ar zmeeni hamly kry?
Kon c fon apny hi hum.watan maan behn ko brhna kry ar mard sy boly girftaree do wrna is ki IZAT LOOT ly gy?
Btao zalmo.btao
Kon c foj hai jo hamesha apny hi hum watnu ko fatah krny k liy fzaee ar zmeeni hamly kry?
Kon c fon apny hi hum.watan maan behn ko brhna kry ar mard sy boly girftaree do wrna is ki IZAT LOOT ly gy?
Btao zalmo.btao
patwari_sab
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
abdulmajid
Minister (2k+ posts)
The Egypt’s sisi model is in Pakistan going on as he killed thousands protesters sitting on the streets 
Sohail Shuja
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Imagine if there is perfection, then it means there is no struggle, no ambition, no suffering and no conflict.
A Utopia would drive the purpose of humanity to a halt-- There will be no room for improvement.
Therefore, in a perfect world, imperfection is perfectly necessary.
In the backdrop of our recent and currently ongoing political scenario, it is time that we take a moment and reflect at it with an open mind.
What went wrong?
1. Lack of foresight and planning:
Crowds were lead with sheer enthusiasm and without the counterbalancing factor of wisdom.
This reeks desperation rather than a standing resolve.
I do not understand what made Bushra Bibi believe that she will give a chance to the authoritarian regime of form 47 and they will not indulge in any foul play?
They are here just because they are very good at it.
Why a consensus was not worked out beforehand and why Bushra Bibi bulldozed the other PTI leadership in all this?
There are reports that Khan agreed for a protest at Sangjani. If this is true, then what was the point of marching towards D-Chowk?
Wouldn't it be better that a power show was conducted at Sangjani and first see if the Government is getting ready for engaging in a political dialogue?
Because like it or not, this problem has to be resolved on the table. If anyone was thinking that the Govt is simply going to release Khan after seeing crowds at D-Chowk, was clearly mistaken, if not delusional.
A pit stop at Sangjani would have looked good on PTI's profile too, as they would have been posing themselves as law abiding peaceful protesters.
It would have also given PTI time to regroup, reform and study the movements of the Estb too. There would have been more clarity and strength, as in some time, crowds from Punjab would've had also joined in, or at least, PTI could give another call to start similar protests nationwide. This would've had diluted the stregth of Estb.
2. Lack of leadership:
Gandapur, who has already been characterized shoddy due to his recent past actions of disappearing from the crowd, was already a point of concern here, as much of PTI workers/protesters were in a state of mistrust. So, what was the point of giving him the lead here?
An army of sheep lead by a lion is better than an army of lions lead by a sheep
There is so much going on in my head right now, but this will get too lengthy for people here to read. Therefore, I am holding my other thoughts right now and may unravel them if the discussion extends to a fruitful debate.
A Utopia would drive the purpose of humanity to a halt-- There will be no room for improvement.
Therefore, in a perfect world, imperfection is perfectly necessary.
In the backdrop of our recent and currently ongoing political scenario, it is time that we take a moment and reflect at it with an open mind.
What went wrong?
1. Lack of foresight and planning:
Crowds were lead with sheer enthusiasm and without the counterbalancing factor of wisdom.
This reeks desperation rather than a standing resolve.
I do not understand what made Bushra Bibi believe that she will give a chance to the authoritarian regime of form 47 and they will not indulge in any foul play?
They are here just because they are very good at it.
Why a consensus was not worked out beforehand and why Bushra Bibi bulldozed the other PTI leadership in all this?
There are reports that Khan agreed for a protest at Sangjani. If this is true, then what was the point of marching towards D-Chowk?
Wouldn't it be better that a power show was conducted at Sangjani and first see if the Government is getting ready for engaging in a political dialogue?
Because like it or not, this problem has to be resolved on the table. If anyone was thinking that the Govt is simply going to release Khan after seeing crowds at D-Chowk, was clearly mistaken, if not delusional.
A pit stop at Sangjani would have looked good on PTI's profile too, as they would have been posing themselves as law abiding peaceful protesters.
It would have also given PTI time to regroup, reform and study the movements of the Estb too. There would have been more clarity and strength, as in some time, crowds from Punjab would've had also joined in, or at least, PTI could give another call to start similar protests nationwide. This would've had diluted the stregth of Estb.
2. Lack of leadership:
Gandapur, who has already been characterized shoddy due to his recent past actions of disappearing from the crowd, was already a point of concern here, as much of PTI workers/protesters were in a state of mistrust. So, what was the point of giving him the lead here?
An army of sheep lead by a lion is better than an army of lions lead by a sheep
There is so much going on in my head right now, but this will get too lengthy for people here to read. Therefore, I am holding my other thoughts right now and may unravel them if the discussion extends to a fruitful debate.
digitalzygot1
Minister (2k+ posts)
Shocking. Law enforcement agencies have opened fire on peaceful innocent unarmed civilians exercising their democratic right on D chowk. Dozens reportedly killed. More news to follow.
Dr Adam
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
These Paki kala coats are good for nothing.
It is high time they should collect all the imagery, videos, evidence and proper information of the Shuhada martyred thus far and make a case to the world legal entities including ICJ in Hague, the UN secy gen and all other bodies of the UN.
Similarly, PTI should approach every international forum to highlight this barbarism of Paki military and its stooges.
Sohail Shuja
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Sir Ji,
Sorry to digress, but with all due respect Sir, shall we go to the International establishment who is helpless in cases of Gaza and Kashmir? and expect them to do something about this?
سر جی، میری ننھی مُنی سی عمرِ مبارک کے سیکھے کا خلاصہ یہ ہے کہ یہ انٹرنیشنل کمیونٹی ہاتھی کے دانتوں سے مشابہت رکھتی ہے، جو کھانے کے اور ہوتے ہیں اور دکھانے کے اور
Panthar_pk
MPA (400+ posts)
well said
"An army of sheep lead by a lion is better than an army of lions lead by a sheep"
Sohail Shuja
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Even more shocking is the attitude of the PTI Leadership, who thought this would not happen. Almost a display of lunacy to expect that this fascist regime of form 47 would bend over on moral grounds.
I think it is the PTI leadership who should think about it more than the establishment.
دشمن سے مہربانی یا رحم کی امید رکھنا نادانی نہیں، بیوقوفی ہے
abdulmajid
Minister (2k+ posts)
The Egyptian's General Sisi model is going on.They killed the innocent peaceful citizens to keep hold on power
Disagree with you points. In any civilized or sane country, when this many people come out on the streets for their rights or with demands. Government initiates dialogue but since this is an undeclared Martial Law the Army fired its own people before they were the one loosing grip on power.
Unarmed Civilians do protests all over the world, even in EU. Did police open fire on protesters in Spain? Or in USA?
NO, because they still have freedom what's left of it.
Unarmed Civilians do protests all over the world, even in EU. Did police open fire on protesters in Spain? Or in USA?
NO, because they still have freedom what's left of it.
Sohail Shuja
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Quote of Napoleon
But here, it fits the description of the latter part, with Gandapur (a disputed person) leading the crowd of Insafians
Sohail Shuja
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
When, under the law, the space of Sangjani was allotted for peaceful protests, then a march towards Isb was to be construed as an act of rebellion in any book of law.
and what was the plan?
That this fascist regime of form 47 will yield to the moral pressure of a protest?
what a folly, if not a moronic lunacy to have such expectations from this Govt.
Know your enemy and stop giving impertinent examples of USA or UK etc. We live in Pakistan..... wake up!
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