قادیانیت اور موجودہ قادیانی

[Reason]

You know very well, how emotional Pakistanis are about the honour of their Prophet Muhammad pbuh. Mumtaz Qadri begged for his life or not, it doesn't matter. What matters is you will find thousands of Mumtaz Qadris left and right in Pakistan. That's why I say, try it.

Those thousands don't mean anything. Its not like I am surprised when Mullahs threaten violence, because thats all they can do. When somebody threaten you, it means they are wrong.

 

[Reason]

جب تک مٹتی نہیں تب تک معنی رکھتی ہے. قران و سنت کے خلاف کوئی قانون سازی کرنے کے لئے اس شق کو مٹنا ضروری ہے تب تک کوئی بھی سیکولر قانون سازی خلاف آئین رہی گی

Agreed.......

 

[Reason]

state power say Hazrat e Abu bakar nay musalima kazzab ko jahannum wasil kiya tha, or us k tamam sathiyo ko ... tou islamic state bilkul ye law enforce karskti hai .... or ap k non muslim dostoun ko national assembly mai bulaya gaya tha k apnay ap ko musalman sabit karo tou wo nakam rahay thay apnay ap ko sabit karnay mai ....infact in logo nay kaha k hum apnay elawa sub ko kafir samjhtay hain [hilar]..... pehlay issue k baray mai research tou karlo ..is pay debate hou chuki hai ap k dost apnay ap ko musalman he sabit nahe kar paey or ap yahan hum say behas kar rahay hou

hansti emojis lagane say yeh nahin saabit hota kay waqai mein hans rahe hein. musalman sabit karo tau issue nahin hai, meri tau yeh baat hi nahin ker raha ke woh muslmaan hein ya nahin. Islamic state of 7th century 21st century mein koi muaeiney nahin rakhti. Yeh Hazrat Abu Bakar ka daur nehin hai, app ko unke daur mein rehna hai tau aap tab peda hote.

 

[RAKPK]

Those thousands don't mean anything. Its not like I am surprised when Mullahs threaten violence, because thats all they can do. When somebody threaten you, it means they are wrong.

If someone threatens you, it means they have overpowered you. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian failed to give strength to his followers. Now they are helpless in Pakistan at the mercy of the Constitution and threats from Mullas.

You need one more Promised Messiah to save you from the wrath of Pakistanis.

 

[I Love Muhammad (PBUH)]

If someone threatens you, it means they have overpowered you. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian failed to give strength to his followers. Now they are helpless in Pakistan at the mercy of the Constitution and threats from Mullas.

You need one more Promised Messiah to save you from the wrath of Pakistanis.

Muslims are helpless in syria, philistine, kashmir, Yeman, iraq, afghanistan ,pakistan and even in india they so helpless they cant even eat a cow . So may be you need a prophet as well ? May be you need one more old prophet from past as new one is not allowed but dead can come back . Please pray Hazrat Musa to come back as this will not break khatme nabuwatt . this is your belief , right

 

[RAKPK]

Its not just a declaration . If you do not agree with this declaration you will not be a Muslim in the state of Pakistan. That is blasphemy of the highest order. Effectively, what the state of Pakistan has done is create a new Shahada. I am no qadiyani but i refuse to be accepted as a muslim on any other shahada than the original shariat shahada.

You seem to deliberately evade this point of argument. When a child is born and grows up, he or she doesn't have to sign this declaration until the need be. Which means that a person doesn't have to use this declaration to give their status as Muslim, officially in Pakistan. This declaration is used at places where Qadiyanis used cheating in the past to avail opportunities which were reserved for Muslims only.

As for homosexuality, it is not a belief system. Perhaps some people believe that a homosexual gene exists or evidence points to one. Sexual identity is a complex process.

Homosexuals who claim that they were born that way couldn't prove scientifically that they have a 'homo gene' :) So it's a belief system based on personal choice, exactly like religion is.

Now once again, Homosexuals succeeded better than Qadianis.

 

[RAKPK]

Muslims are helpless in syria, philistine, kashmir, Yeman, iraq, afghanistan ,pakistan and even in india they so helpless they cant even eat a cow . So may be you need a prophet as well ? May be you need one more old prophet from past as new one is not allowed but dead can come back . Please pray Hazrat Musa to come back as this will not break khatme nabuwatt . this is your belief , right

No, you're wrong. Even in Israel Muslims are allowed to build their masjid and call themselves Muslims as per choice :)

Muslim Masjids in Israel

Jerusalem (disputed areas)

• Al-Aqsa Mosque - Old City
• Al-Khanqah al-Salahiyya Mosque - Old City
• Marwani Mosque - Old City
• Mosque of Omar - Old City
• Abdeen Mosque - Wadi al-Joz
• Sultan Ibrahim Ibn Adham Mosque - Beit Hanina

North

• Al-Jazzar Mosque - Acre
• Mahmood Mosque - Haifa
• al-Muallaq Mosque - Acre
• White Mosque - Nazareth
• Makam al-Nabi Sain Mosque - Nazareth
• Mosque of Ali Ibn Abi Talib (Old Mosque) - Shefa-'Amr

Central

• Sidna Ali Mosque, Herzliya

• Al-Bahr Mosque - Tel Aviv
• Hassan Bek Mosque - Tel Aviv
• Mahmoudiya Mosque - Tel Aviv
• Sidna Ali Mosque - Herzliya
• White Mosque - Ramla
• Mosque of Salahaddin al-Ayyubi - Tayibe
• Mosque of Ali ibn Abi Talib - Tayibe

But sadly, Qadianis are not allowed to call themselves Muslims on the soil of Pakistan and they can't call their places of worship as Masjids.

Even in India, there are Muslims who are eating beef, do a research. Actually there are Hindus in India who find beef quite delicious :)

So, you lose again!

 

[Reason]

If someone threatens you, it means they have overpowered you. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian failed to give strength to his followers. Now they are helpless in Pakistan at the mercy of the Constitution and threats from Mullas.

You need one more Promised Messiah to save you from the wrath of Pakistanis.

I think you are a secret Admirer of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian. I don't know, may be I am wrong.

 

[RAKPK]

I think you are a secret Admirer of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian. I don't know, may be I am wrong.

Seeing his photo makes me yuck

 

[Reason]

Seeing his photo makes me yuck

So you look at his photos? You are a secret admirer.

 

[RAKPK]

So you look at his photos? You are a secret admirer.

I was curious why Qadianis love him so much. They don't have a good taste :)

His left eye was cursed, didn't fully open.

 

[Reason]

I was curious why Qadianis love him so much. They don't have a good taste :)

His left eye was cursed, didn't fully open.

Well as you can tell I don't look at his photos. So I wouldn't know about his eye. I have better things to look on the internet.

 

[Believer12]

Khote se bad tar maqlooq, zara himat he tu apna Thobra aur naam tu bata, deekhta hoon teri hammat. Mujh se milna he tu aja, me Croydon, Surrey me rahta hoon. chaal shabash jaab yaha ajee tu phir ais forum pe message kar deena , tu jaha ayeega me aak milonga tujh se deekhta ho tujh jise Buzdil kia okhar sakte hain mer. Idiot.

ابے او گٹر کے ڈھکن ابن کھوتی اپنا پورا ایڈریس لکھ کرایڈن میں کہاں پایا جاتا ہے تو بن باپ کی کھوتی ؟

 

[khan_sultan]

Muslims are helpless in syria, philistine, kashmir, Yeman, iraq, afghanistan ,pakistan and even in india they so helpless they cant even eat a cow . So may be you need a prophet as well ? May be you need one more old prophet from past as new one is not allowed but dead can come back . Please pray Hazrat Musa to come back as this will not break khatme nabuwatt . this is your belief , right

برادر آپ سے سوال ہے آپ کیا کہنا یہ چاہتے ہیں کے مرزا امام مہدی تھے ؟

 

[khan_sultan]

ابے او گٹر کے ڈھکن ابن کھوتی اپنا پورا ایڈریس لکھ کرایڈن میں کہاں پایا جاتا ہے تو بن باپ کی کھوتی ؟

بلیور بھائی کیا یہ آپ کے ہی ملک یا علاقے میں پایا جاتا ہے ؟

 

[RAKPK]

برادر آپ سے سوال ہے آپ کیا کہنا یہ چاہتے ہیں کے مرزا امام مہدی تھے ؟

He was not an Imam, he was a Ghulam (slave), Ghulam of Ahmad. Now I don't know who was this Ahmad.

 

[Believer12]

بلیور بھائی کیا یہ آپ کے ہی ملک یا علاقے میں پایا جاتا ہے ؟

برادر یہ ناروے میں ہوتا تو جیل میں ہوتا کیونکہ مذہبی بنیاد پر جو کچھ یہ لکھ رہا ہے وہ ادھر جرم تصور کیا جاتا ہے یہ انگلینڈ میں ہے اور مجھے اسکو وہاں جاکر اسکے بل میں سے نکالنا پڑے گا

 

[khan_sultan]

برادر یہ ناروے میں ہوتا تو جیل میں ہوتا کیونکہ مذہبی بنیاد پر جو کچھ یہ لکھ رہا ہے وہ ادھر جرم تصور کیا جاتا ہے یہ انگلینڈ میں ہے اور مجھے اسکو وہاں جاکر اسکے بل میں سے نکالنا پڑے گا

اتنا کیوں خرچہ کرتے ہیں موج کرنے دیں ادھر تو ہر کوئی فتوے لے کر گھومتا ہے میں تو قادیانیوں کے مسلے میں نہیں پڑتا ہوں کیوں کے یہ ان کے گھر کا مسلہ ہے میں نے اس تھریڈ کو دیکھا ہے بس ایک سوال ذہن میں آیا تو ادھر چلا آیا پر جدھر لکھنے کی آزادی نہ ہو ادھر مزہ نہیں آتا لکھنے میں ادھر ٹھرکی ملا چلتے ہیں یا جو تکفیر کریں بس سب بیچارے بیچاریاں ان کی ایسے دیوانے ہیں جیسے کراچی میں بسوں کے پیچھے لکھا ہوتا تھا میں خواجہ کی دیوانی
;)

 

[khan_sultan]

He was not an Imam, he was a Ghulam (slave), Ghulam of Ahmad. Now I don't know who was this Ahmad.

مجھے صرف یہ سوال پوچھنا تھا کیوں کے ان صفات میں کہیں انہوں نے شائد کلیم کیا تھا

 

[Jibran Naeem]

hansti emojis lagane say yeh nahin saabit hota kay waqai mein hans rahe hein. musalman sabit karo tau issue nahin hai, meri tau yeh baat hi nahin ker raha ke woh muslmaan hein ya nahin. Islamic state of 7th century 21st century mein koi muaeiney nahin rakhti. Yeh Hazrat Abu Bakar ka daur nehin hai, app ko unke daur mein rehna hai tau aap tab peda hote.

dykho is issue pay discuss karnay ka koe faida nahe hai ..agar apko state k law say koe aitraz hai tou ap bahar chalayjao ... sirf pakistan mai ap kafir hou ... baqi 200 countries bhe hain ... u should go there to celebrate 21st century ... or by the way 21st century hou ya 1st century ALLAH k deen nahe badalta