dear m shameer sb, people are not and cannot be a reference point for anything at all unless they are backed up by real world realities and purpose based proper guidance of God for mankind. This is why you need to explain where did the words come from and how did they get their meanings. Unless you can explain things I have pointed out you stand upon nothing whatsoever.
As for your claim about islamic books, the only islamic book is the quran upon which are based islamic way of life and islamic rule of law as well as islamic governing system. Any other book is written by people who may claim to be muslims or nonmuslims. Only those ideas, words and deeds can be called islamic which have backing of God and real world realities otherwise they are not islamic even if they are attributed to God or any of his prophets and messengers or missionaries.
You did not come into this world all by yourself rather other people brought you into this world as well as without your consent. See if you can deny this fact.
When you came into this world, you did not look after yourself rather other people looked after you. See if you can deny this fact.
When you will grow old, you will need other people to look after you. This is another fact which you cannot deny.
If you develop any crippling disease during your life time again you will need other people to look after you. Yet another fact of life.
If you have an accident which cripples you, you will need help and support of other people. So which of these facts can you deny?
Yet another fact is you have not been fulfilling your own needs and want all by yourself rather other people have been playing their parts due to which you are still around. It is because other people made for you your foot wear, your clothes, your house and even educated and trained you and helped you gain the skill you have learned throughout your existence.
All these real world realities prove beyond any reasonable doubt the fact that people need each other and they need each other with compassion, respect and love and not for exploitation, manipulation and abuse.
Now bring me any oxford, cambridge, eton college harvard, mit graduate, master and doctor to tell me how sensible that person is. It is because these are the kind of so called institutions which have produced all those leading rulers, politicians, scientists, economists who have been ruining our human world.
Their certificates and degrees are not worth the paper they are written upon. So where do you stand in light of these realities?
Why these people did not bother to steer the human world in the right direction that is pointed by the quran? It is because like you they never tried to study the quran as it ought to be studied. That is because like you they never prepared themselves purposefully properly to seek, receive, study, accept and act upon purpose based proper guidance of their creator and sustainer purposefully properly. They just like mullaans are stooges of rulers and money lenders. Who work for their governing bodies and not for humanity. They are if anything like yourself enemies of God and humanity.
Can you explain for me what is needed for purpose based proper understanding of anything at all? No you cannot because you never thought about these things which you needed to think about. You are such a fool who is so easily impressed by rulers, money lenders and so called religious and secular scholars such as philosophers, scientists and mullaans.
I will leave things at this and hopefully you will be able reply to my posts in a sensible and convincing way. My apologies for anything I might have stated which is upsetting for you. Hopefully you will come to realise why the quran tells mankind to become and remain an ummah.
meanwhile regards and all the best.
