Afghan Taliban seize northern city center in major attack, hoist flag over main square

[اداس ساحل]

Re: Afghan Taliban seize much of Kunduz City center , hoist flag over main square

We need a " Great wall of Pakistan" between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Taliban Fighters Capture Kunduz City as Afghan Forces Retreat

aesa lagta ha ke kisi ne 90's ki film repeat pe lagadi ha. bus farq ye hakay russia ki jaga usa ne leli ha.

ایک بات سچ ہے کہ طالبان پاکستان کے دوست نہیں ۔ یہ صرف پاکستان کے وسائل کو استعمال کرتے آئے ہیں

 

[arafay]

Re: Afghan Taliban seize much of Kunduz City center , hoist flag over main square

ایک بات سچ ہے کہ طالبان پاکستان کے دوست نہیں ۔ یہ صرف پاکستان کے وسائل کو استعمال کرتے آئے ہیں

mulk ko beech dosti nahi hoti sirf mufadat hotay hain.

 

[MashraQi Larka]

Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

The Talibans rout Monday of Afghan forces in the northern city of Kunduz carried an eerie echo of recent battles in Iraq, where another U.S.-trained army has collapsed in combat despite massive support from Washington.

After months of fighting around the provincial capital, the insurgents rolled into the heart of Kunduz while Afghan troops retreated to the nearby airport. It marked the first time the Taliban had captured a city since it was toppled from power in a U.S.-led invasion in 2001.

The fall of Kunduz dealt a major blow to the government in Kabul and its Western sponsors, and it may force U.S. President Barack Obama to drop his vow to pull American troops out of Afghanistan by the end of next year.

For months, the U.S. administration has been debating plans for a drawdown of the 9,800-strong force in Afghanistan, with the Pentagon favoring a slower withdrawal that could leave several thousand troops on the ground after Obama leaves office in 2017.

But the discouraging news from Kunduz could tip the discussion against an early exit, despite Obamas campaign promise to wrap up the 14-year war.

I find it nearly inconceivable that President Obama will now proceed with planned reductions in US forces in Afghanistan, Carl Bildt, the former Swedish prime minister and foreign minister, wrote Monday on Twitter.

U.S.-led forces should stay, he said.

American commanders believe Obamas decision to pull U.S. troops out of Iraq in 2011 was a strategic blunder, helping to create a security vacuum that was later exploited by Islamic State extremists. And both Republicans and Democrats in Congress anxious to avoid a repeat of Iraq, where Baghdads forces have been hammered by Islamic State militants are urging the White House to move more prudently in Afghanistan. The lawmakers cite the threat posed by the Taliban and other extremists, which now include militants with links to the Islamic State.

The defeat in Kunduz was the result of an overly hasty drawdown plan that could produce the same tragic outcome that we watched in Iraq after 2011, said Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John McCain, who has repeatedly blasted Obama for scheduling the troop pullout.

It is time that President Obama abandon this dangerous and arbitrary course and adopt a plan for U.S. troop presence based on conditions on the ground, the Republican senator said in a statement.

U.S. and Afghan officials have long portrayed the Taliban as unable to move beyond its strongholds in rural areas to capture major population centers. But with the Talibans white banner flying over buildings in the center of Kunduz, the battle has raised serious questions about the staying power of the Afghan security forces, which have been trained and armed over the past decade by U.S. and NATO troops.

Both the Iraqi and Afghan armies have received billions of dollars worth of weapons, hardware, and instruction from the United States. But Pentagon officials have rejected drawing any parallels between the two, arguing that the Afghan security forces have shown a will to fight and a sense of national identity missing from Baghdads sectarian-riven military.

U.S. officers said the Afghan army and police had taken heavy losses in the fighting in Kunduz, which began with a dawn blitz by the Taliban from several directions.

There have been a lot of casualties among the Afghan government troops, one senior officer told Foreign Policy.

However, unlike in Iraq, U.S. warplanes did not come to the aid of the Afghan forces around Kunduz, Pentagon officials said.

Since the bulk of American troops withdrew from Afghanistan in 2014 and handed over the fight to Afghan government forces, new rules of engagement allow for U.S. airstrikes to safeguard American troops, target remnants of al Qaeda, and help Afghan forces in dire situations.

But it was unclear why the advance of the Taliban in Kunduz did not trigger air raids, and U.S. officials did not indicate whether drones or other aircraft would be ordered in to bomb Taliban positions for any counterattack.

Afghan officials vowed to undertake a major counteroffensive to recapture Kunduz, which straddles an important northern route to neighboring Tajikistan.

We are prepared, and measures have been taken to recapture the city, the deputy interior minister, Ayoub Salangi, told reporters in Kabul.

For the Taliban, the outcome was a propaganda coup after months of infighting and defections following the death of its leader and founder, Mullah Mohammed Omar. The insurgency recently admitted that it covered up its leaders death for two years to safeguard morale among its fighters.

The Taliban issued a statement attributed to its new leader, Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Mansour, in which he congratulated his fighters while telling the citizens of Kunduz that they had nothing to fear from the insurgents, according to a translation by the SITE monitoring service. But the militants reportedly looted jewelry stores, set fire to U.N. buildings, and freed hundreds of prisoners from the city jail.

The setback in Kunduz also cast doubt on the wisdom of a U.S. troop surge ordered by Obama in 2009 that concentrated on the countrys south, said Bill Roggio, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and editor of the Long War Journal.

Little attention was given to other areas of Afghanistan, including the northern provinces, where the Taliban have expended considerable effort in fighting the military and government, Roggio wrote in the Long War Journal.

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[Phoenix11230]

Re: Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

I think history is stuck in a loop in Afghanistan. The real victims are the innocent people of the country who are just trying to live their daily lives.

 

[ambroxo]

Re: Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

بھائی یہ تو اپنی پی پی پی کے جھنڈے ہیں
بھٹو کندوز میں بھی زندہ ہے ؟
آج کل سہراب نظر نہیں آ رہا - اسکو تو معلوم ہو گا

 

[amber123]

Re: Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

Kuduz fals or not, one thing is for sure that US will not exit from this region. 9/11 was to implace US forces in this strategically emerging region with prospective Sino-Russian allaince, 4 nuclear powers and aspiring nuclear forces around. Situation in Afghanistan will remian in turmoil so long foreign interests remain vested there and innocent people will face the brunt. Middle eastern turmoil was in a sense to liquidify the instability in Afghanistan. However history remains intact and Afghan will resist foreign elements on their soil. West has learnt the lesson, US needs further blows. This is how history takes its turn....The History In Making.

 

[Qalandari1]

Re: Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

Haha America ko bhagatay bhagatay khud Mullah Omar ka band baj gaya tha. Salay ki qabar ka bhi kisi ko nahi pata.

 

[Hussain Mavia]

Re: Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

1houre ago

اللہ اکبر: طالبان نے امریکی طیاروں کی بمباری کے باوجود قندوز ائر پورٹ کے کچھ حصوں پر قبضہ کرلیا۔ یا اللہ مجاہدین کی غیبی مدد ونصرت فرما۔ آمین یا رب


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قندوز ائر پورٹ پر طالبان کا گھیرا مزید تنگ۔ امریکی جیٹ طیاروں کی ائرپورٹ کے اطراف پر اندھا دھند بمباری جاری۔

 

[PUNJABIMUNDANO1]

Re: Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

American troops should not leave Afghanistan at least for next 100 years

Fist educate all the Afghans and then leave

 

[amber123]

Re: Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

American troops should not leave Afghanistan at least for next 100 years

Fist educate all the Afghans and then leave

Joke of the century........instead US forces will be adicted to opium and drugs.........US is tangled in situation with only reactive options available. Afghans are fighting a natural and just war.........US has to justify its actions. Afghans command the timimgs and choices, US fate is not less than the Soviets.

 

[PUNJABIMUNDANO1]

Re: Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

Joke of the century........instead US forces will be adicted to opium and drugs.........US is tangled in situation with only reactive options available. Afghans are fighting a natural and just war.........US has to justify its actions. Afghans command the timimgs and choices, US fate is not less than the Soviets.

You are wrong ...For last 15 years Talibans have failed to capture any city but now they attacked Kunduz ...It means America do not want to leave Afghanistan and preparing the grounds to stay there

Anyway , it's better for the elected government of Afghanistan , If USA decides to stay there

If Talibans want to rule Afghanistan they have option available to take part in elections but not on gun point

 

[amber123]

Re: Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

You are wrong ...For last 15 years Talibans have failed to capture any city but now they attacked Kunduz ...It means America do not want to leave Afghanistan and preparing the grounds to stay there

Anyway , it's better for the elected government of Afghanistan , If USA decides to stay there

If Talibans want to rule Afghanistan they have option available to take part in elections but not on gun point

Utopia..........After Plato's Utopia, your theory ammused us all, at least giving a positive hope, though its a hope against the hope.:13::13:;)(clap)

 

[Afsaana]

Re: Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

Haha America ko bhagatay bhagatay khud Mullah Omar ka band baj gaya tha. Salay ki qabar ka bhi kisi ko nahi pata.

TB ne Mullah Omar ki qabar is liyay nahi banai kyoon ke ISIS walay Qubroo ko tabah kar detain hain...lol

 

[Afsaana]

Re: Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

1houre ago

اللہ اکبر: طالبان نے امریکی طیاروں کی بمباری کے باوجود قندوز ائر پورٹ کے کچھ حصوں پر قبضہ کرلیا۔ یا اللہ مجاہدین کی غیبی مدد ونصرت فرما۔ آمین یا رب


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قندوز ائر پورٹ پر طالبان کا گھیرا مزید تنگ۔ امریکی جیٹ طیاروں کی ائرپورٹ کے اطراف پر اندھا دھند بمباری جاری۔

Kunduz main ISIS walay bhi hain, kia Taliban un ka saamna kar sakain gay?

 

[yasir18]

Re: Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

American troops should not leave Afghanistan at least for next 100 years

Fist educate all the Afghans and then leave

I think the better option for Americans is to take all Afghans with them in USA instead of living there for 100 more years.

 

[Khair Andesh]

Re: Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

American troops should not leave Afghanistan at least for next 100 years

Fist educate all the Afghans and then leave

You are wrong ...For last 15 years Talibans have failed to capture any city but now they attacked Kunduz ...It means America do not want to leave Afghanistan and preparing the grounds to stay there

Anyway , it's better for the elected government of Afghanistan , If USA decides to stay there

If Talibans want to rule Afghanistan they have option available to take part in elections but not on gun point

امریکا اگر افغانستان میں ٹھہرنا چاہے،، تو اسے کسی بہانے کی ضرورت نہیں ہے۔ اور نہ ہی افغان کٹھ پتلی انتظامیہ میں اتنی جرت ہے کہ وہ آقا سے خطہ چھوڑنے کا کہہ سکے۔لہذا یہ کہنا کہ امریکا طالبان کا بہانہ بنا کر افغانستان میں رکنا چاہتا ہے، انتہائی لغو ہے۔اس میں کوئی شک نہیں کہ امریکا خطہ میں رہنا چاہتا ہے، مگر ضروری نہیں کہ ہر چاہت پوری بھی ہو۔
لاتوں کے بھوت باتوں سے نہیں مانتے۔ اور جلد ہی وہ وقت آنے والا ہے کہ امریکا اس خطے سےذلیل و رسوا ہو کر نکلے گا(انشا ء اللہ)۔

 

[Khair Andesh]

Re: Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

اللہ اکبر: طالبان نے امریکی طیاروں کی بمباری کے باوجود قندوز ائر پورٹ کے کچھ حصوں پر قبضہ کرلیا۔ یا اللہ مجاہدین کی غیبی مدد ونصرت فرما۔ آمین یا رب

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قندوز ائر پورٹ پر طالبان کا گھیرا مزید تنگ۔ امریکی جیٹ طیاروں کی ائرپورٹ کے اطراف پر اندھا دھند بمباری جاری۔

آمین
آقا اپنے غلاموں کو بچانے کےلئے خود آیا ہے۔ صرف بمباری ہی نہیں کر رہا، بلکہ فوجی بھی بھیجے ہیں۔ مگر آقا غلاموں کے ساتھ ساتھ خود بھی بہت مار کھائے گا(انشاء اللہ)۔
خدا مجاہدین کو فتح نصیب فرمائے، اور کافروں اور ان کی کٹھ پتلیوں کو ناکام و نا مراد فرمائے۔

 

[Hussain Mavia]

Re: Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

Kunduz main ISIS walay bhi hain, kia Taliban un ka saamna kar sakain gay?

ISIS Ho Ya Hizbullah Afghan Talban Allah Ki Nusrat Say Sab Ka Muqabla Kar Saktay Hain Alhamdolillah

 

[Hussain Mavia]

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تمام امت مسلمہ کو عظیم مبارک باد

قندوز ایئرپورٹ پر مجاہدین نے مکمل طور پر قبضہ کر لیا ہے الحمدللہ، دوسری طرف قندوز شہر کے شمال میں واقع بالا حصار پر بھی فتح کا پرچم لہرا دیا ہے- اللہ اکبر

Bush Musharraff or Obama Ko Bara Jhatka

 

[Hussain Mavia]

Re: Taliban stormed Kunduz, White House may have to drop idea of troop exit from Afghanistan

افغان پارلیمنٹ میں سابق افغان فوج کے جنرل جابر قہرامان قسم کھا کر کہتے ہیں کہ قندوز پر حملہ کرنے والے طالبان کی تعداد صرف 300 کے لگ بھگ تھی جبکہ ٹینکوں اور بھاری ہتھیاروں سے لیس افغان فوجیوں کی تعداد 2000 تھی۔ جنرل صاحب بھی حیران اور پارلیمنٹ بھی حیران۔

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