ahsanuck

MPA (400+ posts)

ahsanuck

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Dr. Tahir Ul Qadri response to people who write fatwas against him

I think you belong to ignorant or little knowledge is dangerous mentality Molviee...I am sorry if you are really from that class because you are giving fatwa of shirk by inferring wrongly from Hadith....Hadith is referring "ghair of Allah"....like idols, wrong Gods of non-believers, kafirs, any thing that takes you away from Allah is the Ghair of Allah.......Prophet is not the ghair of Allah...Prophet takes all people towards to Allah...Prophet takes people away from all things which goes against Allah ot HIS path ..... and Prophet is the beloved of Allah and Allah himslef swears of Prophet in various places in Quran......
بسم اللہ الرحمٰن الرحیم

اللہ کے سوا کسی بھی غیر کی قسم کھانا شرک ہے
یہ میں نہیں اللہ کے رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وسلّم کہتے ہیں

سیدنا عمر بن خطاب رضی اللہ عنہ سے روایت ہے
رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے فرمایا

مَنْ حَلَفَ بِغَيْرِ اللَّهِ فَقَدْ أَشْرَكَ
جس نے اللہ کے سوا کسی کی قسم کھائی اسنے شرک کیا

جامع الترمذي, كِتَاب الْأَيْمَانِ وَالنُّذُورِ, بَابٌ فِي كَرَاهِيَةِ الْحَلْفِ بِالْآبَاءِ, ح:1535 والمستدرك للحاكم: 1/ 18

اس خواب کی سچائی اور حق پر ہونے کے لئے یہ قادری اللہ کے سوا
ساری قسمیں کھا رہا ہے
اب اللہ کے نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلّم کے فرماں کی روشنی میں اس
قادری کا تجزیہ کر لیجئے
اس قادری کی باتوں میں وہی آےگا جو جاہل ہو یا زور خطابت سے متاثر ہونے والا ہو

 
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LovelyVirus

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Dr. Tahir Ul Qadri response to people who write fatwas against him

Lol you little sensitive souls have to edit or remove the post just for making fun of a guy who make fun of you people :D. Anyway enjoy blind sheeping these political mullahs...good for you.
 

ahsanuck

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Chalo jee, Sheikh-ul-Islam sahib nai aik nai chor dee:

I disagree with you on many points that may the reason of due to lack of information or wrong srouces of information or less study about him...any way ..just to correct you , Tahir ul Qadri always encrourage difference of viewpoints , he is the scholar who loves all irrespective of their color, sect , bralvies, wahabis, deobnadis or shias..even he has good interaction with other faiths too like christians, jews, hindus etc and in showing solidarity and harmony with them their relegious events are celebrated like christmass ( Hazrat Isa is also our prophet )...you have wrongly blamed him of attach on Zakir naik verbally or chritcizm so...for your informnation..you will not find a single word of Tahir ul Qadri in his 7000 lectures and 1000 books where he is criticizing Zakir Naik by calling his name even what to talk of zakir naik but any other religious scholar or molvie....he respects all and if any one in youtube upload his speaches with title of "Zakir naik or so " it is not his responsibily unless he personlly refer someone in his talk or writing....current video is also proof of this fact that this was addressed in the context or background of some Molvies who put fatwas on him of like he is not Sunni, he is not Hanafi, he is not muslims so on ridiculous fatwas just because he does not speak against any sect like wahabi/deobandi/shia and call all of them as muslim...but one rigid sect Bralvies who call these sects non-muslims ...put fatwas on him during his indian tour and launched huge compaign against him even went in court to bar him from delvering lecture at Mumbai but their all wrong blames were unsuccessful and he did a historical indian tour of gatherings of millions observed in his lectures so tahir ul Qadri is speaking in that context who call him "Non-Hanafi" but he is Hanafi and telling that he learnt from Imam Abu Hanifa in dreams blessing....thats it....rest you have right toagree with him or disagree on ay issue but his all talks or books are based on Quran and Hadith..jus have a look on his research works...http://www.drtahirulqadri.com/main/research-works-of-shaykh-ul-islam/
Didn't listen to him completely but yeh janab kaafi badi tuup(cannon) maloom padhte hain ya kafi badhi tuup zahir kiye jate hain. Out of all the speakers and scholars,CNN ko bus issi aik Pakistani se is qadar ishq hai,jab bhi dekho isse coverage deinge,apni gudd mein bithate raheinge.Woh Fareed Zakaria itna Pakistan per question mark dalta hai lekin in sahab ke saamne bicha jaraha tha. Waise Wikileaks se ek revelation saamni aayi the key US ne Sunni Tehreek aur kuch Barelvi outfits ko $$$ diye thay just to counter Wahabi/Salafi/Deobandi extremists.Qadri sahab ka taluq na SIC se hai aur na he ST se but he's into Sufi school of thought.Ain mumkin hai key yeh bhi kissi agenda per kaam karrahe hun.

Abhi dekhna Qadri ke chahne wale kaise toot padeinge idhar. Qadri khud kissi ke views ko shayad tolerate nahi karte.CNN inse badi mohabbat dikhake Q & A karega but they didn't let Dr. Zakir Naik speak and he's still banned in USA and Canada.Naik is also a target of Qadri's criticism and verbal attacks.

But one thing I appreciate about Tahirul Qadri is that he also speaks about some realities about corruption in our society.And nonetheless his presence during Amman Message in 2005 is indeed a great highlight or landmark in his career.
 

ahsanuck

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Chalo jee, Sheikh-ul-Islam sahib nai aik nai chor dee:

Oh...its mean you dont wish to see you or your coming generations ( if it carries on until the time the Imam Mehndi A.S & Hazrat Isa A.S appear in their time before doomsday) standing with them but may I get that on the other hand, are you wishing to stand against them????? .....if you dont wish then it is your right but you dont try to impose your ill-wish on others...as i hope all of us would like to see our coming generations standing with Hazrat Imam Mehndi A.S & Hazrat Isa A.S when time comes ........
بھائی احتیاط سے بات کریں .تحریک کو امام مہدی کی قیادت اور جھنڈے کے نیچے قبول کر لیا ہے .تحریک کے لوگوں کی قبولیت ہو چکی ہے - اور طاہر القادری صاحب لاکھوں کا لشکر لے کر امام مہدی کی غلامی میں قبول کر لیا گیا ہے، اور حضرت عیسیٰ عہ کے لشکر میں بھی شامل ہو چکی ہے یہ تحریک
 
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onlykami

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Dr. Tahir Ul Qadri response to people who write fatwas against him

No one has the right but for "sheikh-ul-islam" please don't be so much bias if you have little knowledge of islam you can catch this so called sheikh

Who has given you the right to judge a person whether he is fake or false or what auqat he has.

Anyone of you can claim that he is a "true momin"?

Writing derigaotory remarks about any person who talks about Islam has become a fashion for people who consider themselves"modern".
 

onlykami

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Dr. Tahir Ul Qadri response to people who write fatwas against him

@such bolo bhai is tarhan k comments aaingay is qadri k fitnay k baad Allah k nabi pbuh nay sahi farmaya tha "Islam began as something strange, and it shall return to being something strange, so give glad tidings to the strangers."

I think you belong to ignorant or little knowledge is dangerous mentality Molviee...I am sorry if you are really from that class because you are giving fatwa of shirk by inferring wrongly from Hadith....Hadith is referring "ghair of Allah"....like idols, wrong Gods of non-believers, kafirs, any thing that takes you away from Allah is the Ghair of Allah.......Prophet is not the ghair of Allah...Prophet takes all people towards to Allah...Prophet takes people away from all things which goes against Allah ot HIS path ..... and Prophet is the beloved of Allah and Allah himslef swears of Prophet in various places in Quran......
 
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Rommel

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Dr. Tahir Ul Qadri response to people who write fatwas against him

No one has the right but for "sheikh-ul-islam" please don't be so much bias if you have little knowledge of islam you can catch this so called sheikh

Bias? Look at your comment Mr.Genius, its you who has a blind fold.
Are you an Islamic Scholar? If yes I would agree with you, but if not then your just another tool in this workshop of idiots.
 

ahsanuck

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Dr. Tahir Ul Qadri response to people who write fatwas against him

Brother, dont try to beat about the bush...be to the point ..you put fatwa of SHIRK and wrongly blame by wrongly inferring things from Hadith ....so please if you want to propogate islam and message of Islam then please propogate good things, simple things, good acts, bad acts..prayers...charity etc..things but please dont touch those sensitive issues dealt in Quran & Hadith which are the subject of schoalars to learn and guide us....hope you will not mind because i have come to know what scholarly status you enjoy....
@such bolo bhai is tarhan k comments aaingay is qadri k fitnay k baad Allah k nabi pbuh nay sahi farmaya tha "Islam began as something strange, and it shall return to being something strange, so give glad tidings to the strangers."
 

VivaPakistan

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Chalo jee, Sheikh-ul-Islam sahib nai aik nai chor dee:

In your book, everybody who is skeptical about Tahir ul Qadri's weird dreams and interpretations, he is ignorant. Your all posts depict Tahir ul Qadri s the only knowledgeable person in this world as he claims he got knowledge from Amam Abu Hanifa and other scholars of Islam through his dreams. I haven't said that I don't know about dreams. Nobody denies about dreams. Mirza Qadiani also had many dreams. The problems is weird dreams and then their use for your own benefits.
 

VivaPakistan

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Chalo jee, Sheikh-ul-Islam sahib nai aik nai chor dee:

In your book, everybody who is skeptical about Tahir ul Qadri's weird dreams and interpretations, he is ignorant. Your all posts depict Tahir ul Qadri s the only knowledgeable person in this world as he claims he got knowledge from Amam Abu Hanifa and other scholars of Islam through his dreams. I haven't said that I don't know about dreams. Nobody denies about dreams. Mirza Qadiani also had many dreams. The problems is weird dreams and then their use for your own benefits.

My dear freind, there is nothing wrong with Tahir ul Qadri but it looks something with you...either you are ignorant or trying to be and also u admitted you dont know about dreams if want first study quran where dreams are and in hadith where loads of dreams you will find and remember "dreams need interpretation".... reagarding current clips ...dont forget that in this clip Tahir ul Qadri is speaking in some context and background ..that was very simple ..he was giving reply to those ignorant. conservative and fatwa baaz Mullah who all the time put fatwaas and misguide simple muslims by saying that Tahir ul Qadri is not Sunni, he is not muslims, he is not Hanafi, he is so and so....ridiclous things they bark....especially that was given in answer to sect of "bralvies" molvies who put fatwas on him during his historical visit to india ..but all their ill-wishes were unsuccessful and Almight Allah gave him great historical success in all indian tour ....if you could simple search in youtube comprehensive india tour tahir ul qadri visit videos then you can realize that fact...millions of people gave him historical welcome and appreciationas in hyderabad, mumbai, kuthc, gujrat and banglore....
 

VivaPakistan

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Dr. Tahir Ul Qadri response to people who write fatwas against him

Islam main Qasam khanay ko waisat bhi appreciate nahee kia gia aur khani hai to Allah ke Kasam khao, doosri cheezoon ki (Allah ke siwa) kiyun khatay ho jin se manna kia gaya hai.
Baja'ay apnay aap ko drust kernay ke aap aur aap ke Sheikh sahib Hadees ke interpretation he change ker daitay hain. Wah jee wah. Khud badaltay nahee Islam ko badal detay hain. Wah jee wah, kia kehnay aap ke aap ke Sheikh ke.


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I think you belong to ignorant or little knowledge is dangerous mentality Molviee...I am sorry if you are really from that class because you are giving fatwa of shirk by inferring wrongly from Hadith....Hadith is referring "ghair of Allah"....like idols, wrong Gods of non-believers, kafirs, any thing that takes you away from Allah is the Ghair of Allah.......Prophet is not the ghair of Allah...Prophet takes all people towards to Allah...Prophet takes people away from all things which goes against Allah ot HIS path ..... and Prophet is the beloved of Allah and Allah himslef swears of Prophet in various places in Quran......
 

ahsanuck

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Chalo jee, Sheikh-ul-Islam sahib nai aik nai chor dee:

Brother, I have neither challenged Tahir ul Qadri being only knowledgeable person nor the person who is against him is "ignorant" but have tried to show the true picture that people who blindly give comments about something without looking into the matter or knowing the position from the mouth of person under attack , even you can read here many posts where they are trying to become "Mufti"'s of declaring other like commiting SHIRk or gustakh etc by quoting Hadith with wrong interpreations ..such people are the real problem who paratize some hadith and either misinterpret or misquote to misguide simple muslims who just looking ...oh hadith....they kept silent...but they never know that what real interpreation of that hadith is ..any way...I really like your thread even it was wrongly targetted by you without having correct information of the fact that in what context Tahir ul Qadri was talking , whom were his audience in challenge...very simple ..the molvies, takfiri mullahs who always try to put wrong fatwas of kufar, shirk,snnni nahi, hanfafi nahi....so he was emphasisg that how a person who himself has learnt from Imam Abu Hanifa can not be a Hanifa????? actually all sectarian, rigid, conservative and half baked knoweldge persons and hate provoking mullahs and persons are gainst Tahir ul Qadri beacuse they can never challenge or refute his research work on quran and hadith grounds......rest every one has right to agree with him or disagree with his viewpoints but have no right to tell lies...spread hatred....spread disinforamtion about his research works etc...thats it ...while about dreams..if you think that telling true dreams is to get some benefits then first you should complain all scholars of the past time who mentioned and told their dreams in their books...hope you know i dont need to mention ...any way you can find dreams in quran, hadith books, writers of hadiths book and onward 1000s example are ...were they mentioned to get some benefit or to guide people?????? .
In your book, everybody who is skeptical about Tahir ul Qadri's weird dreams and interpretations, he is ignorant. Your all posts depict Tahir ul Qadri s the only knowledgeable person in this world as he claims he got knowledge from Amam Abu Hanifa and other scholars of Islam through his dreams. I haven't said that I don't know about dreams. Nobody denies about dreams. Mirza Qadiani also had many dreams. The problems is weird dreams and then their use for your own benefits.
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Dr. Tahir Ul Qadri response to people who write fatwas against him

طاہر القادری کھلم کھلا اللہ کے رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وسلّم کے حکم کی خلاف ورزی کر رہا ہے
اور اسکے گمراہ اور اندھے مقلدین اسکی حمایت میں احادیث کا انکار تک کرنے سے باز نہیں آ رہے
طاہر القادری ایک گمراہ شخص ہے جس کی گمراہی میں کوئی شک نہیں
اللہ اسے اور اسکے اندھے مقلدین کو ہدایت دے

نبی کریم صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے فرمایا ہے


اپنے باپ دادا کی قسم نہ اٹھایا کرو۔ جو شخص قسم اٹھانا چاہے اسے اللہ ہی کی قسم اٹھانی چاہئے یا وہ خاموش رہے
ترمذی ، حدیث
1535

اسی طرح آپ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلّم نے یہ بھی فرمایا ہے
جس شخص نے غیر اللہ کی قسم اٹھائی اس نے شرک یا کفر کیا

ترمذی نے اسے حسن کہا ہے اور حاکم نے صحیح

غیر اللہ کے معنی
اللہ کے سوا
یعنی اسمیں نبی بھی آجاتا ہے... باپ دادا بھی...اور آل اولاد بھی...اولیاء بھی اور بت بھی
شجر بھی اور حجر بھی...زمین بھی آسمان بھی....سورج بھی اور چاند بھی

غیر اللہ میں صرف اور صرف بت کو شمار کرنا ان بدعتیوں کی مجبوری ہے

تاکہ قرآن کی آیات کے مقصود کو بدلہ جا سکتے
اللہ ان دین کے بدلنے والوں کو ہدایت دے

 
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paki-muslim

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Dr. Tahir Ul Qadri response to people who write fatwas against him

tahir ul qadri k followers kuch hosh k nakhun lo,tooba karo aur sahi Islam k follow karo,tahir ul qadri Gumrah hai aur doosro ko bhi karna chata hai.
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Dr. Tahir Ul Qadri response to people who write fatwas against him

طاہر القادری کی پوری توجہ اپنی مشہوری پر ہے
یہی وجہ ہے کہ یہ اس طرح کے خوابوں کے ذریعہ لوگوں کو باور کروانا چاہتا ہے
کہ مجھ پر انگلی نا اٹھانا میں بہت پنہچا ہوا ہوں
 

TruPakistani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Dr. Tahir Ul Qadri response to people who write fatwas against him

This thread has drifted towards targeting a persons beliefs and has lost all objective.
It is being closed.
 

Internet

Banned
Re: Soon Pakistani Nation will stand behind Tahir ul Qadri against Corrupt Political Mafia: Hassan Nisar

Ha ha what happened to his prediction of Tsunami ? ;)
 

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