Veila Mast

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Ne Murday Ko Kalima Padaya - The new Religion?

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alibaba222

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Ne Murday Ko Kalima Padaya - The new Religion?

bahi is may ahle hadees ya barylvi ya kisee oorr ka masla nahee he ye islam ka masla he,Allah key ley islam ke apny matlab ke tashreeh na kery,dr tankany ka tareeqa galat he,perh abc..... ,perh abc.... ye jo alfaz ada key ja rahye he ye tareeqa galat he,app murdoo key ley kalma perh sakty he ,Quran pak perh sakty he,mager jo tareeqa Allah key Nabi (S A W W) nay batya he us tareeqy say
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alibaba222

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Ne Murday Ko Kalima Padaya - The new Religion?

ager nazaa ke halat hoo (akhri waqat) pher app keh sakty he kalma perh abc.... kalma perh abc......
 

takjhank

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Ne Murday Ko Kalima Padaya - The new Religion?

Rab diaan Rabb hi janay... but its true k .. Tahir ul Qadri bohat bara aalim honay k bawajood bohat bara drama hay... ye apni marzi ka islam dikhana chahta hay logo ko.. is ka pait dozakh jitna bara ho gaya hay.. is ki inhi ulti sidhi harkato ki waja say... mujhay tou herangi hoti hay is ki taqleed karnay walo par...
Point is this.. Agar murdo ko kalma parhaya jaa sakta tou Hazoor S.A.W.W. apnay pyaray chacha, Abu Leheb (If i m not wrong in the name), jin k baray may AAP S.A.W.W. ki shadeed khawhish thi k, wo emaan lay aayen... AAP S.A.W.W. un ko marnay k baad, tamam sahaba r.a. k samnay.. kalma na parha detey.........
ya AAP S.A.W apni life may koi esi example bana kar na jatay.. k .. jitnay emaan k kachay, or munafiq log AAP S.A.W k dor may ya anay walay dor may, marnay k baad, is tareeqa e kaar say faida utha saktay.......... Sochnay ki baaat hay.......

Inna Lillah e Wa Inna elehe Rajeoon.......

"Ehd e Nas Siratal Mustaqeem.......... Siratal Lazeena... Anamta Alaihim... Ghair il Maghdoob e Aleihim, Waladuaaleennnnnn.... Ameen!!!!!!!!!
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Ne Murday Ko Kalima Padaya - The new Religion?

کا کا ، ہن جمیا یں ؟؟؟
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Ne Murday Ko Kalima Padaya - The new Religion?

It is a common concept among some scholars and others that the dead in their graves have the ability of hearing a visitor's greeting, his supplication, talk, etc.. Such a concept is unfounded, for it has no proof from clear texts of the divine shari'ah. In fact, it is in open contradiction to the unchallengeable texts of the Quran and the authentic traditions of the Prophet (saws) which deny the possibility of the dead possessing this faculty.

PROOF FROM THE QUR'AN AND THE SUNNAH NEGATING IT

There are two unequivocal texts from the Qur'an which deny the possibility of the dead in their graves possessing the faculty of hearing. Allah, the Blessed and Exalted, states :

[Surah an-Naml 27:80]
إِنَّكَ لَا تُسْمِعُ الْمَوْتَىٰ وَلَا تُسْمِعُ الصُّمَّ الدُّعَاءَ إِذَا وَلَّوْا مُدْبِرِينَ

Yusuf Ali 80: Truly thou canst not cause the dead to listen, nor canst thou cause the deaf to hear the call, (especially) when they turn back in retreat.

البتہ تو مردوں کو نہیں سنا سکتا اور نہ بہروں کو اپنی پکارسنا سکتا ہے جب وہ پیٹھ پھیر کر لوٹیں


[Surah Fatir 35:22]

وَمَا يَسْتَوِي الْأَحْيَاءُ وَلَا الْأَمْوَاتُ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُسْمِعُ مَن يَشَاءُ ۖ وَمَا أَنتَ بِمُسْمِعٍ مَّن فِي الْقُبُورِ

Yusuf Ali 22: Nor are alike those that are living and those that are dead. Allah can make any that He wills to hear; but thou canst not make those to hear who are (buried) in graves.
اور زندے اور مردے برابر نہیں ہیں بے شک الله سناتا ہے جسے چاہے اور آپ انہیں سنانے والے نہیں جو قبروں میں ہیں



In the first verse Allah addresses His messenger, Muhamad (saws), reminding him that he cannot make the disbelievers hear the invitation to Islam, for they are like the dead, who do not hear either. In the second verse Allah points to the difference between the living and the dead - they are not all alike. He further clarifies to His prophet that he cannot make the rejectors of faith hear the message (for they are dead in heart and in spirit) any more than he can make those in the graves hear what is spoken to them![See Tafseer at-Tabari, vol.21, p.36 and al-Qurtubi's al-Jami, vol.13, p.232]

Just as the Qur'an denies the possibility of the deceased possessing the faculty of hearing, there are a number of texts in the sunnah which arrive at the same conclusion. One such hadith follows:
Ibn Mas'ud reported that the Prophet (saws) said: "Allah has angels who travel about the earth; they [do and will] convey to me the peace greeting from my ummah." [Authentically reported by Abu Dawud]

This hadith clarifies that the Prophet (saws) does not hear the greetings of peace from Muslims when they pronounce it upon him, for if he could hear it directly, there would be no need of angels to convey it to him. Therefore, it follows that the Prophet (saws) cannot hear other forms of conversation directed to him either; and it stands even more to reason that the deceased, being lesser than the Prophet (saws), also cannot hear the salam (greeting of peace) or any other form of speech.[See al-Ayat al-Bayyinat of al-Alusi, p.37, Published by al-Maktabah al-Islamee (1982)] Thus contrary to a popular misconception, because the Messenger (saws) cannot directly hear either one's invocation of blessings or one's salam addressed to him, such greetings may be conveyed to him from anywhere, regardless of the distance or proximity of the greeter to the Prophet's grave. The erroneous belief that the Prophet (saws) hears these greetings directly disregards the previous hadith whcih specifies that the greetings are conveyed to him by the angels, and it is based on a forged tradition whose text follows:

It has been narrated that the Prophet (saws) said: "Whoever asks blessings for me at my grave, I hear him, and whoever asks blessings upon me from afar, it is conveyed to me." [This tradition was mentioned by al-'Uqayli in his book, adh-Dhu'afa and by al-Khateeb, Ibn 'Asakir, et. al., and they all agreed that it is a forged (mawdhu') hadith. [See al-Albani's al-Ahadith adh-Dha'eefah, vol.1, hadith no.203]
 
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freshnkool

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir Ul Qadri's Views about Salman Taseer and Gazi Mumtaz Qadri

its an insult to call a murder as Gazi, Gazi elam deen killed and happily accepted punishment , yee kesi trah kaa naam nehad munafiq or katil qadri hai joo judges koo either dhamkian delwa raha hai apny gundhon say or apni jaan bachna chahta hai
 

hawkeyeblue

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir Ul Qadri's Views about Salman Taseer and Gazi Mumtaz Qadri

نا تو میں قادری صاحب کا پیروکار ہوں بلکے بہت ہی زیادہ ناقد ہوں اور سلمان تاثیر کو شدید نا پسند کرتا تھا اور ہوں پر یہ بات جو انھوں نے کہی ہےمیری ناقص راۓ میں ١٠٠ فی صد درست ہے
 
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evanescence

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Ibtesam ilahi Zaheer Comment For Dr Muhammad Tahir Ul Qadri

No doubt Ibtisaam is an educated and qualified guy but he never took such steps like tahir ul qadri to gather whole ummah under commonalities. Anyway thanks and keep sharing such stuff.
 

Temojin

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Ibtesam ilahi Zaheer Comment For Dr Muhammad Tahir Ul Qadri

Rightly said, we should respect each other and know that what has been done to split us apart. Anyway, time has come ke agar ham nahi honge to hona parega verna maarney valay yeh nahi poocheinge ke haan bai konsa school of thought hai.
 

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