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Pak Falcon
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO_RD7MFM4Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aCvc5lqFQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gz7QNRsIUE
that is enough to prove that he is a retard he has sold his soul to kafirs taseer was a confirmed gustakh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO_RD7MFM4Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aCvc5lqFQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gz7QNRsIUE
that is enough to prove that he is a retard he has sold his soul to kafirs taseer was a confirmed gustakh
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
ziyada kuch na kahoo ga .hazrat abu harera (razi allah anho)aor shaitaan wali hadees khud parh laen ya kisi say soun laen.wohi muamla hae100%.
zeyafa
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
Janab me koi alim nai ban raha, me woh baat keh raha ho jo pakistan ki hakoomat, army, media, or samjhdar awaam keh rahi hai......ya phir media walo ne bhi rishtae dene hai apna gamhidi sahib ko jo Pehlae Alif, phir Din o Danish phir Aaj Ghamidi, Mukalma, Ghamidi, etc walae program lagatae hai!!!!
Pehlae Musharf promote krta ha, Phir resignation accept nai krta....
Is se yeh baat sabit hoti hai keh koi to masla ha!!!
Agr aap ko pata ho k army kitni penetrate ho chuki hai already Islamic redicalization se......is k aap, consequences tasawor b nai kr saktae.....ainda 10 saal baad aaesae generals aaye ge jo k redicalized hongae or Dictatorship or islamic state enforce krae ge ya phir pori dunya ko fatah krnae nikal jaye ge....
Hum tamam citizens ka farz ha k redicalization ko hatam krae or apnae mulk ki taraqi krae.....na k extremes pe jaye....
Or sun le app ko me bta du, takriban hamari aadhi army redicalization ko use krti ha apnae assets samjh k.....or yeh jo hum jitnae ilzam lagatae hai raw,cia,israel pe us se 200 guna ziada hamare apnae logo ne tang kiya howa ha!!!
Janab me koi alim nai ban raha, me woh baat keh raha ho jo pakistan ki hakoomat, army, media, or samjhdar awaam keh rahi hai......ya phir media walo ne bhi rishtae dene hai apna gamhidi sahib ko jo Pehlae Alif, phir Din o Danish phir Aaj Ghamidi, Mukalma, Ghamidi, etc walae program lagatae hai!!!!
Pehlae Musharf promote krta ha, Phir resignation accept nai krta....
Is se yeh baat sabit hoti hai keh koi to masla ha!!!
Agr aap ko pata ho k army kitni penetrate ho chuki hai already Islamic redicalization se......is k aap, consequences tasawor b nai kr saktae.....ainda 10 saal baad aaesae generals aaye ge jo k redicalized hongae or Dictatorship or islamic state enforce krae ge ya phir pori dunya ko fatah krnae nikal jaye ge....
Hum tamam citizens ka farz ha k redicalization ko hatam krae or apnae mulk ki taraqi krae.....na k extremes pe jaye....
Or sun le app ko me bta du, takriban hamari aadhi army redicalization ko use krti ha apnae assets samjh k.....or yeh jo hum jitnae ilzam lagatae hai raw,cia,israel pe us se 200 guna ziada hamare apnae logo ne tang kiya howa ha!!!
evanescence
MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
I am really feeling sorry for you.
I am really feeling sorry for you.
Pak Falcon
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
u dont need to feel it for me u need to feel it for urself it can benefit u
u dont need to feel it for me u need to feel it for urself it can benefit u
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
Results of the Pro american Policies of sh*ts like you . . . .
Results of the Pro american Policies of sh*ts like you . . . .
zeyafa
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
I never supported pro American policies,
This person followed and initiated the US policies who is father of Islamization in Pakistan? you know what im afraid of? Zia-ul-Haq's Islamization
We are so proud, we are best say LAL TOPI WALA BALUNGRA.....does he know, how we were able to fight russia???? because US supported us with all kinds of wepons and ecnomic aids....US actually supported Islamization and now he wanted to destroy it, ....and you know what! I posted an article few days ago in which was analysis of US aid to Pakistan ... Conclusion was...whenever Dictatorship takes hold of country...our economy boost by 400% BECAUSE OF us AID....... and whenever a democratic leader comes..... Aid reduce to same position...
Pakistan never won a war with India but once which was only just defence...........you know what!!! Taliban's say we are not going to support Pakistan blindly if there is a problem in PAK-US relation
Govt follow american policies because they cannot live without it.....our 60% GDP depend upon America, Our Aids(Especially Military Aids) is provided by USA.......
You see we cannot lose US aid or we shall remain behind race with India....When you talk about pro-american policies, remember it initiated by your loving Zia ul Haq. He fought Russia for Weapons..... Angain I am not Islamic but I am Pakistani Muslim!!!
Those who say we can live without US aid then, Yes they are right....but ask them? Why don't they pay taxes?? Why is our ratio is only 9% of tax collection???
People like you vote these corrupt politicians and Supports Dictatorship!
People like you with feeble minds are not ready to take that much, our nation is going at direction Where comes nothing but the Allah's punishment....
You need to Understand USA main goal is only and only to disarm ISI, de-nuke and take them where is turkey.....They are taking full advantage of Islamization and thats how they plan'..........Unite with whole world and Dis-arm Pakistan.......
I never supported pro American policies,
This person followed and initiated the US policies who is father of Islamization in Pakistan? you know what im afraid of? Zia-ul-Haq's Islamization
We are so proud, we are best say LAL TOPI WALA BALUNGRA.....does he know, how we were able to fight russia???? because US supported us with all kinds of wepons and ecnomic aids....US actually supported Islamization and now he wanted to destroy it, ....and you know what! I posted an article few days ago in which was analysis of US aid to Pakistan ... Conclusion was...whenever Dictatorship takes hold of country...our economy boost by 400% BECAUSE OF us AID....... and whenever a democratic leader comes..... Aid reduce to same position...
Pakistan never won a war with India but once which was only just defence...........you know what!!! Taliban's say we are not going to support Pakistan blindly if there is a problem in PAK-US relation
Govt follow american policies because they cannot live without it.....our 60% GDP depend upon America, Our Aids(Especially Military Aids) is provided by USA.......
You see we cannot lose US aid or we shall remain behind race with India....When you talk about pro-american policies, remember it initiated by your loving Zia ul Haq. He fought Russia for Weapons..... Angain I am not Islamic but I am Pakistani Muslim!!!
Those who say we can live without US aid then, Yes they are right....but ask them? Why don't they pay taxes?? Why is our ratio is only 9% of tax collection???
People like you vote these corrupt politicians and Supports Dictatorship!
People like you with feeble minds are not ready to take that much, our nation is going at direction Where comes nothing but the Allah's punishment....
You need to Understand USA main goal is only and only to disarm ISI, de-nuke and take them where is turkey.....They are taking full advantage of Islamization and thats how they plan'..........Unite with whole world and Dis-arm Pakistan.......
simple_and_peacefull
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
dear zeyafa,
you didn't reply on my last post on Religion LAW of Pakistan. read it with your open mind & heart ( keep hate away from both). and understand it deeply then reply me where its go wrong. as normal muslim ( not Ahmadi) will say there is nothing wrong. do you want to declare ahmadis as muslim. if you had watch clip i had post in my first post , you may had notice that speaker had told that daughter of saleman told in a interview that "if my father able to make chages then his second step was to remove law against ahmadis." if you didn't notice then watch it again.
as per my habit i don't like to label anyone with any one group. person should have courage to say his/her group name.
I am not a scholar /mufti/ alim / alama.i am only ordinary small student of Islam.
dear zeyafa,
you didn't reply on my last post on Religion LAW of Pakistan. read it with your open mind & heart ( keep hate away from both). and understand it deeply then reply me where its go wrong. as normal muslim ( not Ahmadi) will say there is nothing wrong. do you want to declare ahmadis as muslim. if you had watch clip i had post in my first post , you may had notice that speaker had told that daughter of saleman told in a interview that "if my father able to make chages then his second step was to remove law against ahmadis." if you didn't notice then watch it again.
as per my habit i don't like to label anyone with any one group. person should have courage to say his/her group name.
I am not a scholar /mufti/ alim / alama.i am only ordinary small student of Islam.
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atensari
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
Did Wine, gamble, adultery, prostitution, interest, mix gathering have any justification in Islam?
Did Wine, gamble, adultery, prostitution, interest, mix gathering have any justification in Islam?
zeyafa
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
You are correct Yes, their is nothing wrong with law as long as it is called love for Prophet in extremes in our society.....But why people who want to amend this law especially 295-C give some arguments.
1- This law can easily be used to accuse someone innocent.
2- Every person would like to kill people himself becoming (Judge,Jury, Prosecutor Likewise MQ)
3- This Law is nor Defined in Quran neither it is in Sunnah...but its opposite.
4- This law is made by just human.
5- Why any non-muslim or muslim will call something blasphemy about Prophet saw Unless he is Phsyco in Pakistan
If you ask a reasonable Islamic Scholar, he will give you 100 more sources which are authentic!
Also as this law is correct and is in action.... then in every state it favors Salman Taseer not Mumtaz Qadri!
Qadri was Redicalized thus took the Law in his hand.
I would like to reply your any further question!
VIBES: How do you respond to critics who claim you are creating bida and coming up with innovations in Islam?
Javed Ghamidi: I have come across people who agree with me and many who do not. All I can say is that I base my research and knowledge on the Holy Quran and Sunnah of the Holy Prophet, pbuh.
You are correct Yes, their is nothing wrong with law as long as it is called love for Prophet in extremes in our society.....But why people who want to amend this law especially 295-C give some arguments.
1- This law can easily be used to accuse someone innocent.
2- Every person would like to kill people himself becoming (Judge,Jury, Prosecutor Likewise MQ)
3- This Law is nor Defined in Quran neither it is in Sunnah...but its opposite.
4- This law is made by just human.
5- Why any non-muslim or muslim will call something blasphemy about Prophet saw Unless he is Phsyco in Pakistan
If you ask a reasonable Islamic Scholar, he will give you 100 more sources which are authentic!
Also as this law is correct and is in action.... then in every state it favors Salman Taseer not Mumtaz Qadri!
Qadri was Redicalized thus took the Law in his hand.
I would like to reply your any further question!
VIBES: How do you respond to critics who claim you are creating bida and coming up with innovations in Islam?
Javed Ghamidi: I have come across people who agree with me and many who do not. All I can say is that I base my research and knowledge on the Holy Quran and Sunnah of the Holy Prophet, pbuh.
zeyafa
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
You are off topic but I kindly reply...
Yes.:P
It was two such ulema who led the battle at the Red Mosque that
ended this month in violence. Two brothers -- one a lay religious
scholar and the other formally trained -- led an armed rebellion
against the state a few blocks from the president's residence,
demanding the implementation of sharia. Becoming a scholar of
Islam used to be a choice, Ghamidi said, like becoming a doctor.
Now it is destiny from the moment a child is enrolled in a
madrassa.
You are off topic but I kindly reply...
Yes.:P
It was two such ulema who led the battle at the Red Mosque that
ended this month in violence. Two brothers -- one a lay religious
scholar and the other formally trained -- led an armed rebellion
against the state a few blocks from the president's residence,
demanding the implementation of sharia. Becoming a scholar of
Islam used to be a choice, Ghamidi said, like becoming a doctor.
Now it is destiny from the moment a child is enrolled in a
madrassa.
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simple_and_peacefull
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
now one thing is clear that law is correct. now the reason is its implementations. now read out LAW article # 194 . its about giving fabricated information or evidence to prove wrong is right... here is 194... ( and watch the clip from 7:00 till 10:00 )
194.Giving or fabricating false evidence with intent to procure conviction of capital offence:
Whoever gives or fabricates false evidence, intending thereby to cause, or knowing it to be likely that he will thereby cause any person to be convicted on an offence which is capital by any law for the time being in force, shall be punished with imprisonment for life, or with rigorous imprisonment for a term which may extend to ten years, and shall also be liable to fine; if innocent person be thereby convicted and executed : and if an innocent person be convicted and executed in consequence of such false evidence the person who gives such false evidence shall be punished either with death or the punishment herein-before described.
http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/legislation/1860/actXLVof1860.html
its mean if witness is/was given fabricated statements then punishment for witness is same as mention above in 194.
194 is giving protection to innocent /wrongly convicted. if government implement , people know, these article of law then they will not give fabricated statements. now here the matter come again how to implement law correctly. do you think if lawmakers do amendment in these articles do its stop people to giving fabricated statements. my answer is NO. then after this only solution will left is remove these articles from law books.
regarding article 298 . its not for Islam only. its come for all religions. in this article there no punishment of death. punishment is only one year or with fine, or with both. so this article should be problem.
now main thing & my view .....if this law was wrong then why all people were sleep after 1986. saleman tasser was with ZABhotto, BBhotto , did they demand before. they had government two times before this government. what action they had taken that time. same thing for all others include JAGhamdi also. you bring their any speech on this issue between 1988-2000 ( it will be great help if any body bring it).
note : I am not giving justification on Qadri's action that he was right. my points are about LAW & its implementations.
Qadri was his body guard he stay with him most of times so he may had notice many other things which couldn't come up in media as its could be personal.Qadri know better then us that how S.Tasser was talk about issue off the record. and these things could drag him to this level.
now one thing is clear that law is correct. now the reason is its implementations. now read out LAW article # 194 . its about giving fabricated information or evidence to prove wrong is right... here is 194... ( and watch the clip from 7:00 till 10:00 )
194.Giving or fabricating false evidence with intent to procure conviction of capital offence:
Whoever gives or fabricates false evidence, intending thereby to cause, or knowing it to be likely that he will thereby cause any person to be convicted on an offence which is capital by any law for the time being in force, shall be punished with imprisonment for life, or with rigorous imprisonment for a term which may extend to ten years, and shall also be liable to fine; if innocent person be thereby convicted and executed : and if an innocent person be convicted and executed in consequence of such false evidence the person who gives such false evidence shall be punished either with death or the punishment herein-before described.
http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/legislation/1860/actXLVof1860.html
its mean if witness is/was given fabricated statements then punishment for witness is same as mention above in 194.
194 is giving protection to innocent /wrongly convicted. if government implement , people know, these article of law then they will not give fabricated statements. now here the matter come again how to implement law correctly. do you think if lawmakers do amendment in these articles do its stop people to giving fabricated statements. my answer is NO. then after this only solution will left is remove these articles from law books.
regarding article 298 . its not for Islam only. its come for all religions. in this article there no punishment of death. punishment is only one year or with fine, or with both. so this article should be problem.
now main thing & my view .....if this law was wrong then why all people were sleep after 1986. saleman tasser was with ZABhotto, BBhotto , did they demand before. they had government two times before this government. what action they had taken that time. same thing for all others include JAGhamdi also. you bring their any speech on this issue between 1988-2000 ( it will be great help if any body bring it).
note : I am not giving justification on Qadri's action that he was right. my points are about LAW & its implementations.
Qadri was his body guard he stay with him most of times so he may had notice many other things which couldn't come up in media as its could be personal.Qadri know better then us that how S.Tasser was talk about issue off the record. and these things could drag him to this level.
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simple_and_peacefull
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
i would answer this but its will take the issue to different direction...
i would answer this but its will take the issue to different direction...
atensari
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
It is the topic, why Liberal Secular always want justification for Blasphemy Law and ignore other un-Islamic liberties.
It is the topic, why Liberal Secular always want justification for Blasphemy Law and ignore other un-Islamic liberties.
zeyafa
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
I watched this video,
There is One basic problem with this law, It is not an Islamic Law, Its is not based on Quran on Sunah'.
I already told you its made by men.
I know this law is very important, yes, even this law is used in US, UK & World.
I find India legislation attractive because they say, 3 years prison for a (person) who gives life threats on basis of Religion.
If you don't know Ghamidi sahib, he has a huge role in legislation of Pakistan and many of them are made and amend by him.
A women used to throw garbage basket on Prophet SAW daily, but he went for her hospitality when she fall ill.
"I challenge liberal and conservative thought at the same time," he told me recently at his home in Lahore. "The liberals in Pakistan are confused by me. The religionists are fuming and have called me everything short of an infidel."
"Mr. Ghamidi has had a huge role in shaping Islamic laws in the country," said Khalid Masood, the chairman of the Islamic Ideology Council in Islamabad. "And his debates on television have made a profound impact on public views."
The old laws were finally amended. Along with a few like-minded scholars, he had managed to pull the rug out from under the political Islamists at the peak of their post-9/11 power.
I watched this video,
There is One basic problem with this law, It is not an Islamic Law, Its is not based on Quran on Sunah'.
I already told you its made by men.
I know this law is very important, yes, even this law is used in US, UK & World.
I find India legislation attractive because they say, 3 years prison for a (person) who gives life threats on basis of Religion.
If you don't know Ghamidi sahib, he has a huge role in legislation of Pakistan and many of them are made and amend by him.
A women used to throw garbage basket on Prophet SAW daily, but he went for her hospitality when she fall ill.
"I challenge liberal and conservative thought at the same time," he told me recently at his home in Lahore. "The liberals in Pakistan are confused by me. The religionists are fuming and have called me everything short of an infidel."
"Mr. Ghamidi has had a huge role in shaping Islamic laws in the country," said Khalid Masood, the chairman of the Islamic Ideology Council in Islamabad. "And his debates on television have made a profound impact on public views."
The old laws were finally amended. Along with a few like-minded scholars, he had managed to pull the rug out from under the political Islamists at the peak of their post-9/11 power.
zeyafa
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
OMG, your statement is based on a mere assumption that he somehow knew more of Salmaan Taseer! Man you don't know nothing about him. I recommend you to study background facts of Qadri, he was actually in the process of radicalization.
First thing I would do being a legislature, Is to declare any individual infidel & punish, who declare fatwas on any body even on non-Muslim, It is responsibility of state to declare fatwa, not any era gera mulana mufti molvi.
One Ghamidi follower said his father, a British-educated engineer, called him an infidel for attacking the controversial law. “Our society is tearing itself apart,” he said.
OMG, your statement is based on a mere assumption that he somehow knew more of Salmaan Taseer! Man you don't know nothing about him. I recommend you to study background facts of Qadri, he was actually in the process of radicalization.
First thing I would do being a legislature, Is to declare any individual infidel & punish, who declare fatwas on any body even on non-Muslim, It is responsibility of state to declare fatwa, not any era gera mulana mufti molvi.
One Ghamidi follower said his father, a British-educated engineer, called him an infidel for attacking the controversial law. “Our society is tearing itself apart,” he said.
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atensari
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
According to the bases of Quran and Sunnah what is the law for Adultery, prostitution, gambling, wine, interest?
According to the bases of Quran and Sunnah what is the law for Adultery, prostitution, gambling, wine, interest?
simple_and_peacefull
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri on Salman Taseer Assassination - Amazing Analysis
can you share background of Qadri with source detail.
can you share background of Qadri with source detail.
