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[Murshad Jee]

Masha ALLAH

I am very happy to see that some of our member fellows realise that this guy Pakistani1947 is liar and master of copy and paste policy as Gazoo Bhai mentioned above.

 

[Murshad Jee]

As a long discussion going on for few days here -------> http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?34771-Official-Response-of-Dr.-Tahir-Ul-Qadri-on-Objections-about-his-Dreams!!!/page3
what ever Pakistani1947 posted in above mentioned thread, he start posting the same here...............................
Shame on you ------->Pakistani1947

why don't you answer the questions which I asked in that thread?

for your kind information, please read this with open heart.

 

[gazoomartian]

There is no doubt that our Iman is not complete until we love Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) more than anything.

Mr. 1947, Now I truly think you are a afsadi and a shitdisturber, This topic has been going on for weeks. And you are still carrying on like a twister in circle. Give it up man. Who is aksing you to copy&paste all these?

When I read khan123's comment, I realized what you written earlier?

Is it love of Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) by which one can bring him (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) into dream??

It could be love of Him (s.a.w.) but most likely its the bounty from Allah (swt)

My mind does not accept that tahir-ul-qadri has more love of Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) than Prophet's (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) wife Aisha (RA) or his (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) nephew Ali (RA). Its your choice, whether you accept or not

Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) could have saved thousand of Sahabas (RA) lives by just coming into dream of his wife (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) (RA) or nephew (RA).
I cant believe that you can be so stupid and idiot. Are you suggesting that Muhammad (s.a.w.) had a choice and but he (s.a.w.) did not use it? What a kafirana thoughts. Are you suggesting that He (s.a.w.) deliberately massacred his sahaba? Nauzobillah, you better do tauba man before Izrael (as) comes and gets you.

Dreaming of Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) is a very serious and important aspect of Islam. Even some of the Muslim sects or school of thoughts, for example tahir-ul-qadri group's religion, is being authenticated indirectly by a dream.

YES I have dreamt 5 times of Muhammad (s.a.w.) and you are jealous. You are making it serious even tho its not. Its my personal wardat. Seems like you are out on mission to discredit Qadri group on behalf of your favorite maulvi, its jealousy of competition isnt it? What group do you represent, AMTKN or what?
If you reallt think. w/o any influence from your maulvis, then let it go. The Qadri group will be responsible in qyamah for their deeds.

We know that there is Sahih Hadith that Only those person could see the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) in their dream who had seen him in wakefulness, i.e. in real life. Narrated Abu Huraira: I heard the Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) saying, “Whoever sees me in a dream will see me in his wakefulness, and Satan cannot imitate me in shape.” Abu ‘Abdullah said, “Ibn Sirin said, ‘Only if he sees the Prophet in his (real) shape.’” (Sahih Bukhari Book #87, Hadith #122)

Do you know that if you dream of any Nabi (as), the Nabi (as) has nothing to do with his actual coming in your dream? Its the mercy and bounty of Allah that makes it happen to you. Any Nabi does not have a power to appear in dream They did not have power to do ANYTHING even in their lives. It was the doing of Allah that made it happen instantly as they even moved their lips. Jesus (as) didnt revive a pigeon on his power, it was Allah who did it. Similarly Musa(as) did NOT part the sea, he just put his walking stick as per Wahi, its Allah who parted the water.

There is no dispute that Satan can not imitate Prophet Muhammad صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم). But Satan can disguise into Saint like appearance (anybody other than Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)). Now tahir-ul-qadri never saw Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) alive then how can tahir-ul-qadri claim with 100% confidence that he actually saw Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم)??

Qadri ki gheebat karkey unki aqbat sanwar rahey ho. Good for him and you are losing the taqwa.

any way brother. No more arguments with you. I am done with your negative brain. You do not need to reply to my counter comments.

 

[gazoomartian]

Now I Know Why Some Members Are Suddenly Bashing Minhaj-ul-Quran. A Revolt has begun

Now I know why they have come out in full force to condemn or discredit Minhaj-ul-quran. because of these of course :5:

Anti-ZH, take it easy.

Way to go ZAID, Good to see you in Minhaj conference. Now hopefully all members of Minhaj will become fans of ZAID.

Both, Zaid hamid and Minhaj, are winners in this new association. Minhaj due to religious stands with large membership, and Zh because of his immense brilliance and unsurpassed speaking power.

I are happy :5:

Adapted from Brasstacks.pk
" Alhamdolillah, we were invited at a national conference of leaders in Lahore organized by Minhaj ul Quran of Dr. Tahir ul Qadri sb along with about 100 political, religious and social groups, including Tanzeem e Islami, Tehreek Insaaf to discuss the present corruption, power crisis and inflation.


We spoke on the occasion and were respected by all participants, alhamdolillah. Strong demands have been given to the government else a civil disobedience movement against the govt was threatened! Now the civil society is raising its voice against this IMF run corrupt government hell bent on Yugoslavia option for Pakistan.

the Pakistanis are fighting back, alhamdolillah! "

Please visit

http://www.minhaj.org/english/tid/1...st-load-shedding,-dearness-and-corruption.htm


http://www.minhaj.org/english/index.html

 

[gazoomartian]

@Azhar1234


A Hadyt you mentioned in your article:

Your conclusion:


Should i call it a blunder ,lack of knowledge ,lack of understanding or a Hippocratic attitude that made you write this article.

I will assume that its due to your lack of understanding i would just give you one example from your own written article and will leave it to the readers to decide weather i was right in making this assumption or there was some other reason for this wrong interpretation......................

No long discussions just look at the words of Hadyt it has two parts first one seeing the prophet s.a.w in dream, and second one seeing the prophet s.a.w when awake.

It is clearly stating that the first part happens before the second part as the second part suggests to an event that WILL(Will See) happen in the future if the first happens.

You in your conclusion twisted this fact and used has seen (Have seen) instead of Will see just to give it the meaning you wanted.

Even after such a Hippocratic twist you call it in strict accordance with sahih bukhari.....................

good catch yaar, thanks

 

[Murshad Jee]

غزو بھائی چھا گئے ہو ۔۔۔ کیا بات ہے
آخر کار آپ چور کے گھر تک پہنچ ہی گئے

 

[gazoomartian]

Now I know why they have come out in full force to condemn or discredit Minhaj-ul-quran. because of these of course :5:

Anti-ZH, take it easy.

Way to go ZAID, Good to see you in Minhaj conference. Now hopefully all members of Minhaj will become fans of ZAID.

Both, Zaid hamid and Minhaj, are winners in this new association. Minhaj due to religious stands with large membership, and Zh because of his immense brilliance and unsurpassed speaking power.

I are happy :5:

Adapted from Brasstacks.pk
" Alhamdolillah, we were invited at a national conference of leaders in Lahore organized by Minhaj ul Quran of Dr. Tahir ul Qadri sb along with about 100 political, religious and social groups, including Tanzeem e Islami, Tehreek Insaaf to discuss the present corruption, power crisis and inflation.


We spoke on the occasion and were respected by all participants, alhamdolillah. Strong demands have been given to the government else a civil disobedience movement against the govt was threatened! Now the civil society is raising its voice against this IMF run corrupt government hell bent on Yugoslavia option for Pakistan.

the Pakistanis are fighting back, alhamdolillah! "

Please visit

http://www.minhaj.org/english/tid/1...st-load-shedding,-dearness-and-corruption.htm


http://www.minhaj.org/english/index.html

The moderator has moved here deliberately so this post does not attract good coverage. It must be against the endorsement by the moderator. This is becoming a joke forum We can only post what they like. its CORRUPTION, that's what it is!!! LOL

The CJ should take a suo moto on this one too

Moderator! you should show a list of your choices so we don't waste time and post only according to your wishes

for cryin out loud

 

[Murshad Jee]

The CJ should take a suo moto on this one too

hahahahahaha

 

[Murshad Jee]

 

[gazoomartian]

Thanks. I never heard this one before, but my knowledge of ahadeeth is very limited. Thanks tho

 

[khurram01]

What happened to Zakir Naik's Teacher

So Sad death of his Teacher

His Teacher's Brother join Dr Tahir ul Qadri after watched his Brother Death,

 

[Knowledge Seeker]

Brother Knowledge Seeker,

It is not my article, but I agree with the content of this article because it is backed by authentic Hadiths from Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim. Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim are the two most highly respected books of authenticated hadith collections.

Before posting this article I cross checked one by one the text of each and every Hadith through other sources. Finally, the analysis is very neutral, unbiased and logical.

With all due respect, the writer of this article has done a major injustice with Ahadith mentioned here either due to lack of knowledge about Fiqh of Hadith or negligence. That is why I had confirmed with you earlier about the contents of your post.

Now, coming to the point of whether one can see Muhammad (PBUH) in a dream. The simple answer is that, no, it isn’t possible to see Muhammad (PBUH), or any other prophet, in a dream.

The writer has ignored the all classical commentaries about the Ahadith of dreams from the time of early centuries till today. You should know that Muhadditheen and Jurists have been mentioning the dreams of Muslims for seeing our beloved Prophet (Salallahu Alaihi Wassallam) from the early periods of Islam.

If you will do some research in this matter,You will find lots of incidents to prove that many Sahaba (May Allah Please with them) like Abdullah Ibn e Abbas and Tabaen (Post-Companions) like Ibn e Seereen had strong belief about the permissibility of this matter. Whenever someone informed them about their dreams of seeing Hadhrat Muhammad (Salallahu Alaihi Wassalam), they never rejected the claim right away on basis of denial of seeing prophet in dream instead they used to inquire further about the description in order to verify the reliability of dreams.

Shortly, Following reference would be helpful for you to understand the matter:

Sheikh Al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar (May Allah Bless him) said in the commentary of Sahih Al Bukhari:
We have narrated it with a complete isnaad from Ismaa’eel ibn Ishaaq al-Qaadi from Sulaymaan ibn Harb (who was one of the shaykhs of al-Bukhaari) from Hammaad ibn Zayd from Ayyoob who said: If a man told Muhammad (meaning Ibn Sireen) that he had seen the Prophet (Salallahu Alaihi Wassallam) in a dream, he would say, “Describe to me the one whom you saw.” If he gave a description that he did not recognize, he would say, “You did not see him.” Its isnaad is saheeh, and I have found another report which corroborates it. Al-Haakim narrated via ‘Aasim ibn Kulayb (who said), my father told me: I said to Ibn ‘Abbas(R.A.), “I saw the Prophet (Salallahu Alaihi Wassallam) in a dream.” He said, “Describe him to me.” He said, “I mentioned al-Hasan ibn ‘Ali (R.A.) and said that he looked like him.” He said, “You did indeed see the Prophet (Salallahu Alaihi Wassallam).”
[Fath al-Baari: 12/383, 384: Darul Fikar: Beirut].

Sheikh Al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar (May Allah Bless him) said in the commentary of Sahih Al Bukhari:
The phrase “[the Shaytaan] cannot” indicates that although Allaah gave him the ability to appear in any form he wants, He does not allow him to appear in the form of the Prophet (Salallahu Alaihi Wassallam). This was the opinion of a group who said concerning the hadeeth: What this refers to is when a person sees him as he really looked.
Some of them restricted it even further and said: He must see him as he looked when he died, so he must even take into consideration the number of his white hairs which was no more than twenty.
The correct view is that The Prophet (Salallahu Alaihi Wassallam) may be seen at any age or in any condition, so long as he appears as he really looked at any time, whether as a youth, in the prime of manhood, in old age or any other time of his life.
[Fath al-Baari: 12/386: Darul Fikar: Beirut].

To conclude:
We cannot see Muhammad (PBUH) in a dream. In fact, the Bukhari hadith mentioned earlier says that whoever sees Muhammad (PBUH) in a dream has seen him in wakefulness. Since none of us have seen him in wakefulness, we can’t see him in a dream.
The very serious implication of holding this belief is that many hopefuls have launched their religious careers (fan following) by making this claim. Almost all our Sufi ‘saints’ have established their credibility, and their thrones, by doing this. They first claim to have seen the Prophet (PBUH), then they say they are in direct contact with him, then they claim they have been divinely inspired, and then they build their economic empires which they leave to their successors.

It is due to this severe and far reaching consequence that we need to set the record straight and prove to readers that is it NOT possible to see Muhammad (PBUH) in our dreams, since we have neither seen him in his life, nor will we see him in our wakefulness. This is in strict accordance with the Bukhari ahadith above.

In fact, the writer got excited in targeting the credibility of People of Tassawwaf and committed a blunder of rejecting the well established belief of Muslims.

Next time, please don’t even visit the website which has such an incompetent article. I have doubt that learned Scholar can never do this kind of analysis however; I do not deny the possibility of Site admin as an Analyst.

 

[Salik]

Gazoo...

I would nt bother to discuss anything with anyone who just copies and pastes rather than using own brains..... you shouldnt have wasted your time in this debate....

and the purpose of the original post was not to get a debate on... it was to encourage people to do something to get his (S) love and affection...

And unfortunately enough ...... the initial copy paste has deviated the the focus from "what should we do" to ""whether we can see him (S) in the first place"""

نہ جانے ہم كب سدھرینگے۔۔۔۔

 

[biomat]

Assalam-o-alaikum
Dear brother knowledge seeker. I agree to your post as i am also searching for some hadeeth regarding Seeing Hazrat Mohammad PBUH in dreams. I will post insha ALLAH soon my part of research regarding this topic.. Jaza-k-ALLAH for every one's participation.

 

[gazoomartian]

Ever heard about Sultan Noor uddin Zangi?
if not then read below.


Everyone is trying to be aalim these days. And they are all going in hell for wrong interpretations of Quran and Ahadeeth Inshaallah[/I]

Isnt that the truth.

I love your name, might as well accept it LOL

 

[biomat]

Assalam-o-alaikum
Here are some hadiths from Sahi Bukhari..

 

[Knowledge Seeker]

Assalam-o-alaikum

Wa'Alaikum As Salam brother,

Jazak Allah for sharing valuable information.

 

[Pakistani1947]

Brother Pakistani1947

But............To me you belong to wahabi school of thought and your intentions are mentioned in wikipedia.

Brother Murshad Jee, you have no right to label me as "wahabi". Do you have ilm ul Gaib??

Furthermore, I find you very abusive so unless you behave like an educated person, please do not expect any response from me.

 

[biomat]

Dear Brother Knowledge seeker & others
Assalam-o-alaikum
My base for sharing this that i think it is possible that we can see Hazrat Mohammad PBUH in dreams, but this is only possible if we are following SUNNA & ISLAM.. Also i dont want to discuss about Mr Tahir-ul-Qadri or any one claiming to see our prophet in dreams, so i have pasted another hadith regarding telling a lie about dreams, so ALLAH knows better what is truth & what is false. We have to pay for what we do in this life.. Regarding point raised by brother seeker i totally agree & it seems logical.. If you will do some research in this matter,You will find lots of incidents to prove that many Sahaba (May Allah Please with them) like Abdullah Ibn e Abbas and Tabaen (Post-Companions) like Ibn e Seereen had strong belief about the permissibility of this matter. Whenever someone informed them about their dreams of seeing Hadhrat Muhammad (Salallahu Alaihi Wassalam), they never rejected the claim right away on basis of denial of seeing prophet in dream instead they used to inquire further about the description in order to verify the reliability of dreams.

WALLAH ALAM.

 

[Murshad Jee]

Dear Brother Knowledge seeker & others
Assalam-o-alaikum
My base for sharing this that i think it is possible that we can see Hazrat Mohammad PBUH in dreams, but this is only possible if we are following SUNNA & ISLAM.. Also i dont want to discuss about Mr Tahir-ul-Qadri or any one claiming to see our prophet in dreams, so i have pasted another hadith regarding telling a lie about dreams, so ALLAH knows better what is truth & what is false. We have to pay for what we do in this life.. Regarding point raised by brother seeker i totally agree & it seems logical.. If you will do some research in this matter,You will find lots of incidents to prove that many Sahaba (May Allah Please with them) like Abdullah Ibn e Abbas and Tabaen (Post-Companions) like Ibn e Seereen had strong belief about the permissibility of this matter. Whenever someone informed them about their dreams of seeing Hadhrat Muhammad (Salallahu Alaihi Wassalam), they never rejected the claim right away on basis of denial of seeing prophet in dream instead they used to inquire further about the description in order to verify the reliability of dreams.

WALLAH ALAM.

Wa Alaikum Assalam dear Brother Biomat.

The discussion is going on here about, Is someone CAN SEE OR CAN NOT SEE our Piyaray Aaqa Muhammed (Sallallah-u-Alaih-e-Wasallam) in his/her dream after the Wisaal of Piyaray Aaqa Muhammed (Sallallah-u-Alaih-e-Wasallam).

Of course if I talk about myself, I can not even think that I could be that lucky....................................Shame on me.

But Piyaray Aaqa Muhammed (Sallallah-u-Alaih-e-Wasallam) can be seen by any True Muslim who live his/her life according to Quran and Sunna and MUST BE Aashiq-e-Rasool (Sallallah-u-Alaih-e-Wasallam)

Wassalam.