shikra

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Tahir ul Qadri wants national govt under SC's supervision Billi Thaily Sey Bahar Aa Gai

اب جب نظر آنے لگا کہ عمران خان کلین سویپ کرنے جا رہا ہے تو سٹیٹس کو والی فورسز اپنے مکروُہ منصوبوں کے ساتھ منظرِ عام پر آ گئی۔ ہشیار باش
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mein aaj ik baat karna chahta hoon.is website per mein ne notice kia hai keh jab dr. Tahir ul qadri ka koi bhi thread ata hai tau bohat saare comments bhi atte hain.lakin ik cheez assume ker li keh un ka nazriya theek hai ya ghalat pata nahin lakin un ki personality mein kuch na kuch tau aisa zaroor hai keh comments ki line lag jaati hai
 

lotaa

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Billi Thaily Sey Bahar Aa Gai

apnay user naam ka hi ihtram kar lo,id aap ne Buturabi rakhi,lekin batein aap ki sharabi aur kababi wali hain,apna username change kar lo,aap ko pata b hay k Buturab kon hain,un k ilam ko sari dunia janti hai,but aap itna acha username rakh kar ail munafqana kirdar adaa kar rahay ho,sorf apnay keena ki waja se,
:علامہ اقبال نے ایسے ہی شیخِ الاسلام کے بارے میں کہا تھا.


یہی شیخِ حرم ہے جو چُرا کر بیچ کھاتا ہے
گلیمِ بوذر و دَلقِ اویس و چادرِ زہرا
 

lotaa

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Billi Thaily Sey Bahar Aa Gai

Uk mein nizam sahi chal raha hay wahan insaf hay,koi jamaat b lotay ikathay kar party nahi banati,lekin pakistan mein aisa ho raha hai,is imran k saye talay ,sab lotay aik hain aik hain,sab ne lotoon ne pti ko join kiya aur hum lotay pak hain pak hain,[hilar]
یار مو لوی لندن میں رہتا ہے تو کرسمس بھی نہ مناے، کرسمس کا کیک کھانے کے بعد ہی تو تبدیلی کا مروڑ اٹھتا ہے
ویسے ان منافقوں کا نہ دین نہ دنیا
ان کو بھی لندن جا کر پاکستان میں تبدیلی کا خیال آ گیا
ورنہ پاکستان میں تھے تو بکرے کا خوں لگا کر قاتلانہ حملہ ثابت کرتے تھے

مزے کی بات یہ ہے کہ پاکیستان اور برطانیه کا انتخابی نظام ایک جیسا ہے

قادری صاحب برطانیہ والوں کو اپنا قیمتی خیال پیش کیوں نہی کرتے
 

evanescence

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Tahir ul Qadri wants national govt under SC's supervision Billi Thaily Sey Bahar Aa Gai

mein aaj ik baat karna chahta hoon.is website per mein ne notice kia hai keh jab dr. Tahir ul qadri ka koi bhi thread ata hai tau bohat saare comments bhi atte hain.lakin ik cheez assume ker li keh un ka nazriya theek hai ya ghalat pata nahin lakin un ki personality mein kuch na kuch tau aisa zaroor hai keh comments ki line lag jaati hai

Brother you should also know the nature of those comments.
Are they about any of his loot maaar??
Are they about any of his scandal??
Are they about any of his Jaali BA degree??
Are they about any of his Money Laundering??

People only object his name, dresses, speech style etc etc. Otherwise all other issues are sect related. I've mentioned earlier ab Wahabi Qabron par nahi jaatay, Sunni jaatay hain. to Wahab firqay k jo bhai hain woh to isi trah ka venome hi pour karain gain yahan aa kar. Same is with Kharji hazraaat.
Anyway dont depends on people views set your on point of view and analysis based on your own research.
Hope you accept this.
 

frenes

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Tahir ul Qadri wants national govt under SC's supervision Billi Thaily Sey Bahar Aa Gai

Ziyada baty na kro. Dr. sb ney 6 Months jail bejhny ka jo kaha hai us ko sabit kr do. is k Baki jhot baad main discuss kr ley gey.
Dude he is talking about those electoral system which not yet been set, for which he is fighting for. I believe you are confusing yourself. In that ideal electoral system it would be obligatory for everybody to vote. And rest of things you had mentioned are not relevant. But i would say majorly it is teaching differences among our sects such as Wahabi dont go to graveyard while Sunni goes. I hope you listen.
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Billi Thaily Sey Bahar Aa Gai

Uk mein nizam sahi chal raha hay wahan insaf hay,koi jamaat b lotay ikathay kar party nahi banati,lekin pakistan mein aisa ho raha hai,is imran k saye talay ,sab lotay aik hain aik hain,sab ne lotoon ne pti ko join kiya aur hum lotay pak hain pak hain,[hilar]

Then correct your behaviour.

It is not system problem.

Honesty is the main thing even in any criminal system.

Not a single system could support corrupt people... not even Islam.

Islam call them Munafiq. today they are called corrupt.


It is not the matter of PTI or this [HI]پاگل القادری
[/HI]
 

ramay67

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Tahir ul Qadri wants national govt under SC's supervision Billi Thaily Sey Bahar Aa Gai

brother you should also know the nature of those comments.
Are they about any of his loot maaar??
Are they about any of his scandal??
Are they about any of his jaali ba degree??
Are they about any of his money laundering??

People only object his name, dresses, speech style etc etc. Otherwise all other issues are sect related. I've mentioned earlier ab wahabi qabron par nahi jaatay, sunni jaatay hain. To wahab firqay k jo bhai hain woh to isi trah ka venome hi pour karain gain yahan aa kar. Same is with kharji hazraaat.
Anyway dont depends on people views set your on point of view and analysis based on your own research.
hope you accept this.​

ان مولویوں کا اپنا ایک طریقہ واردات ہوتا ہے۔ان میں کوئی فرقہ مخصوص نہیں ہے۔سوائے معدودے چند الله کے نیک بندوں کےاور انکا بھی کوئی ایک فرقہ مخصوص نہیں ہے۔طاہر القادری کی چوریاں اور بددیانتیاں بمعہ ثبوت و دلائل عندالطلب پیش کروں گا(انشاءالله)جو چاہے شوق پورا فرمائے۔
 

mardan

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Tahir ul Qadri wants national govt under SC's supervision Billi Thaily Sey Bahar Aa Gai

A musalmaaa apne dil se pooch mulla se na poocch........
hogaya Allah k bande q khali Harm


mai pehle se janta thaaaa ye khumeni ki trah bahir jane k drama kr k bili ki trah chihrro k khwab dekh rahe hain .....lekin en k muqaddar mai altap bhai ki trah phone pe calls krna hi likha hia shayaddd
اب جب نظر آنے لگا کہ عمران خان کلین سویپ کرنے جا رہا ہے تو سٹیٹس کو والی فورسز اپنے مکروُہ منصوبوں کے ساتھ منظرِ عام پر آ گئی۔ ہشیار باش
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mustafvi

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Tahir ul Qadri wants national govt under SC's supervision Billi Thaily Sey Bahar Aa Gai

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Minhaj-ul-Quran International and Pakistan Awami Tehreek jointly organized Public Awareness Rally in Liaqat Bagh, Rawalpindi, on December 18, 2011, which was attended by over one hundred thousand people. Public rally was the biggest event in the history of Rawalpindi and Islamabad held against the corrupt and monopolistic electoral system.
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The proceedings of the rally got underway with the recitation from the Holy Quran followed by Naat. Central leaders of MQI Rawalpindi Allama Umar Riaz Abbasi, Shamraiz Khan Awan, and PAT Secretary General Anwar Akhtar Advocate conducted the proceedings of the programme. The first session of the programme, which continued for two hours, concluded at 1 a.m. The participants of the rally offered their prayers during the break.
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The second session of the programme started off after the Zuhr prayer. National anthem was played on the occasion and all the people attending the public rally stood up in the honour of the anthem. The chief highlight of the second session was the keynote address of Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, which was telecast live from Canada. Minhaj TV showed all the proceedings of the mega event throughout the world. National and international media also telecast the programme.

In his speech, Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that his thought was opposed to that of many anchors, intellectuals, analysts and political commentators. He said that electronic and print media always showed uniform picture in respect of political consciousness. He said that the door to public awareness, which he was opening, was never opened before and the subject was never brought under discussion at any level. He asked the media to take up this issue in the larger public interest. He said that he wanted to tell the people of Pakistan through the public rally that if the incumbent system, which was being dubbed as ‘democratic, stayed intact, no change would come about through it. He who would contest elections under the present electoral system would fail.

The political parties, Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri added, accepted the system because they had winning horses and the system protected their parochial interests. He said that people would never be able to bring about change through their votes as they did not possess the power to do so because vote was not an agent of change in our political system. He said that vote was used as a faade to put in place a fake democratic system.

Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that he was urging people to rise against electoral system out of his national and religious duty and not at the behest of someone else. He said that the current system had snatched people’s livelihood, their sovereignty, their integrity and paralysed them. He categorically stated that real change was not possible through current electoral system. He said that the system was geared towards protecting the interests of the ruling elite with nothing to offer to the poor masses. He said that the system had kept 180 people shackled. He asked the people that the time to act and cause the change happen was now. However, he made it clear that the change he was talking of did not merely mean change of the government, rather the change of the corrupt and oppressive and unjust electoral system.

Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that the current electoral system had become cancerous, which required surgery of the finest order to cure the body politic. The country needed a surgeon who was well aware of the intricacies of the disease. A new national government should be constituted, consisting of people with proven record of honesty and character, which should function under the Constitution and give a new social contract.
Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri said that no institution other than Supreme Court of Pakistan could pave the way for establishment of national government. Underlining the need of democratic reforms, he said that he aspired to have a Pakistan, which was free from affliction of terrorism and did not have any threats to the national security from outside. He said that it was unfortunate that Pakistani society was neither democratic, nor Islamic, nor even humanitarian.
Public_Awareness_Rally_Liaqat-Bagh_20111218_14.jpg
Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that our political system had consistently been eating into the vitals of Constitution and we were still adamant to get it acknowledged as ‘democratic’. He said that dubbing Pakistan as a democracy was an insult to democracy itself. Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri said that the present system was not ‘Jamhooriat’ (democracy) but ‘majbooriat’ (compulsion). Urging the people to reject it, he said that Pakistan had gone many notches up on the global corruption index and even left Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Ethiopia behind.

Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri warned the people of the dangers of being back riders who did not know the captains of the ship nor their intentions. If people continue to remain indifferent, the shipwreck was but a sure inevitability. He said that he wanted to see a moderate, peaceful and modern Pakistan, which should neither go to war with the US nor should play lackey to it. He said that we would have to become a nation capable of taking independent decisions. He declared in manifestly clear terms that PAT would not take part in elections. However, he added in the same breath that it would keep on knocking at the doors of people’s consciousness for change in the system because it was the only way to make things better for the masses.
Public_Awareness_Rally_Liaqat-Bagh_20111218_76.jpg

Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that he wanted Pakistan to be such a country as spends 10% of its Gross Domestic Product on education and health each. There should be mobile courts, which dispose off cases within three days. He said that the nation should beware that if change did not come now, the country would further slide into abyss of darkness. If the nation wanted a real change, it should take to streets and rise up against the corrupt electoral system. The political system being dubbed as democracy would further add to people’s disappointments even if parliaments continued to emerge from it for many decades.
Public_Awareness_Rally_Liaqat-Bagh_20111218_74.jpg
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Shaykh-ul-Islam said that this exploitative system had taken away from people their honour, respect, basic necessities of life, and right to accountability and even to life itself. The desire of leaving a better legacy for the succeeding generations, installing a real democracy and a real change would not be fulfilled without sending this electoral system packing. This system was an instrument periodically used to vote the elite into the corridors of power. He further said that he was neither opposed to political parties nor their leaderships but the very system, which was the mother of all problems.
Public_Awareness_Rally_Liaqat-Bagh_20111218_62.jpg
Public_Awareness_Rally_Liaqat-Bagh_20111218_65.jpg

Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri said that it was regrettable that Pakistan society was neither developed nor developing rather it was declining. It was more a crowd of people without any national purpose, which could bind them together. He said that 80% of people were worried for making their both ends meet, while 60% of them did not take any part in politics. He said that 40% of the people were persuaded to vote through stick and carrot method.
Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that never in the world did a member of parliament have any development funds. Development, he said, was responsibility of the government departments, which had the power to question MNA’s overstepping the line but in Pakistan MNA was all in all.

Speaking on the occasion, Secretary General of Minhaj-ul-Qaruan Dr Raheeq Ahmad Abbasi said that MQI and PAT had launched a countrywide campaign to uproot the current electoral system and the public awareness rally in Rawalpindi was the first link in the same chain. He said that massive turnover of people in the rally was an indication, that people were ready for change. He said that Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri was guiding the nation at this difficult and critical juncture of history. He said that the day was not far when people would join the ranks of PAT and MQI and send the corrupt and exploitative system home.
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Allama Ali Ghazanfar Kararvi, Secretary General of Tehreek Ulama-e-Pakistan, Sehikh Zahid Fayyaz, Ahmad Nawaz Anjum, Sayyid Ibrar Qadri, Chaudhry Lehrasib Gondal, Mustaq Shurwardi, Noshaba Zia, Baber Chaudhry, Tajjamal Hussain, and others also spoke on the occasion.


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Amir-e-Tehreek Sahibzada Faiz-ur-Rehman Durrani, Dr Raheeq Abbasi, Sheikh Zahid Fayyaz, G.M. Malik, Fakher-uz-Zaman Aadil, Mirza Muhammad Asif Qadri, Ahmad Nawaz Anjum, Brig (R) Dr Obaidullah Ranjha, Sayyid Ibrar Qadri, Chaudhry Lehrasib Gondal, Mustaq Shurwardi, Noshaba Zia, Baber Chaudhry, Tajjamal Hussain, and other leaders graced the main stage.









 

BuTurabi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Tahir ul Qadri wants national govt under SC's supervision Billi Thaily Sey Bahar Aa Gai


At first who the hell told you that imran khan is going to do clean sweep. You are in Fool's heaven. And hundred of thousands time he mentioned in his interviews that i m not kind of person who target others characters. He even never ever spoke out IK name. I dont know tum logon ko Dr. TAHIR-UL-QADRI ka naam suntay hi KIS JAGA PAR DARD shoro ho jata hai. . Your post is totally senseless, i dont know how did you compare it with IK. Keep in your mind this is TQ War, and war against this Sectarian Electoral System.

I would be the first one to stand by him if he is against this Sectarian Electoral System, which he is not. How can a Molvi be acceptable for all of the sections of Islam. I'm for peace and totally against Mullaiyyat. If you read dozens of my other posts on various threads, you'll see what my stand is. Many Thanks
 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Billi Thaily Sey Bahar Aa Gai


اپنا دین ایمان بیچ دیا منہاج القران بیچ دیا اور کیا رہا بیچنے کو۔مذہبی رواداری اپنی جگہ مگر ہماری مساجد اور دینی مدارس کا تقدص اور انکی عظمت بھی کوئی معنی رکھتی ہے۔
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اس کے یہی اعمال ظاہر کرتے ہیں کہ اس نے جو خواب حضور نبئی کریم صل الله علیہ وصلم کے متعلق بیان کیا تھا وہ سب جھوٹ اور اس کا اپنا گھڑا ھوا تھا۔جو انقلاب یہ لانا چاہتا ہے وہ ایک غیرت مند مسلمان کی موت کے مترادف ہے



chalo yaar kaheen quran o hadyt se ye baat sbit kr do k christians k saath christmas mananey se banda kafir ho jata he ya uska deen bikk jata he.........

ore ye jittno ne tumhari post like ki he agar ye b vakae halal k hain to le aiey koi aisee ayat ya koi aisee hadyt...........
 

mustafvi

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Tahir ul Qadri Address Bedari e Shaoor Rally in Liaqat Bag Rawalpindi.

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Minhaj-ul-Quran International and Pakistan Awami Tehreek jointly organized Public Awareness Rally in Liaqat Bagh, Rawalpindi, on December 18, 2011, which was attended by over one hundred thousand people. Public rally was the biggest event in the history of Rawalpindi and Islamabad held against the corrupt and monopolistic electoral system.
Public_Awareness_Rally_Liaqat-Bagh_20111218_48.jpg

Public_Awareness_Rally_Liaqat-Bagh_20111218_38.jpg
Public_Awareness_Rally_Liaqat-Bagh_20111218_47.jpg
The proceedings of the rally got underway with the recitation from the Holy Quran followed by Naat. Central leaders of MQI Rawalpindi Allama Umar Riaz Abbasi, Shamraiz Khan Awan, and PAT Secretary General Anwar Akhtar Advocate conducted the proceedings of the programme. The first session of the programme, which continued for two hours, concluded at 1 a.m. The participants of the rally offered their prayers during the break.
Public_Awareness_Rally_Liaqat-Bagh_20111218_49.jpg
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Public_Awareness_Rally_Liaqat-Bagh_20111218_52.jpg

The second session of the programme started off after the Zuhr prayer. National anthem was played on the occasion and all the people attending the public rally stood up in the honour of the anthem. The chief highlight of the second session was the keynote address of Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, which was telecast live from Canada. Minhaj TV showed all the proceedings of the mega event throughout the world. National and international media also telecast the programme.

In his speech, Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that his thought was opposed to that of many anchors, intellectuals, analysts and political commentators. He said that electronic and print media always showed uniform picture in respect of political consciousness. He said that the door to public awareness, which he was opening, was never opened before and the subject was never brought under discussion at any level. He asked the media to take up this issue in the larger public interest. He said that he wanted to tell the people of Pakistan through the public rally that if the incumbent system, which was being dubbed as ‘democratic, stayed intact, no change would come about through it. He who would contest elections under the present electoral system would fail.

The political parties, Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri added, accepted the system because they had winning horses and the system protected their parochial interests. He said that people would never be able to bring about change through their votes as they did not possess the power to do so because vote was not an agent of change in our political system. He said that vote was used as a faade to put in place a fake democratic system.

Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that he was urging people to rise against electoral system out of his national and religious duty and not at the behest of someone else. He said that the current system had snatched people’s livelihood, their sovereignty, their integrity and paralysed them. He categorically stated that real change was not possible through current electoral system. He said that the system was geared towards protecting the interests of the ruling elite with nothing to offer to the poor masses. He said that the system had kept 180 people shackled. He asked the people that the time to act and cause the change happen was now. However, he made it clear that the change he was talking of did not merely mean change of the government, rather the change of the corrupt and oppressive and unjust electoral system.

Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that the current electoral system had become cancerous, which required surgery of the finest order to cure the body politic. The country needed a surgeon who was well aware of the intricacies of the disease. A new national government should be constituted, consisting of people with proven record of honesty and character, which should function under the Constitution and give a new social contract.
Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri said that no institution other than Supreme Court of Pakistan could pave the way for establishment of national government. Underlining the need of democratic reforms, he said that he aspired to have a Pakistan, which was free from affliction of terrorism and did not have any threats to the national security from outside. He said that it was unfortunate that Pakistani society was neither democratic, nor Islamic, nor even humanitarian.
Public_Awareness_Rally_Liaqat-Bagh_20111218_14.jpg
Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that our political system had consistently been eating into the vitals of Constitution and we were still adamant to get it acknowledged as ‘democratic’. He said that dubbing Pakistan as a democracy was an insult to democracy itself. Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri said that the present system was not ‘Jamhooriat’ (democracy) but ‘majbooriat’ (compulsion). Urging the people to reject it, he said that Pakistan had gone many notches up on the global corruption index and even left Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Ethiopia behind.

Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri warned the people of the dangers of being back riders who did not know the captains of the ship nor their intentions. If people continue to remain indifferent, the shipwreck was but a sure inevitability. He said that he wanted to see a moderate, peaceful and modern Pakistan, which should neither go to war with the US nor should play lackey to it. He said that we would have to become a nation capable of taking independent decisions. He declared in manifestly clear terms that PAT would not take part in elections. However, he added in the same breath that it would keep on knocking at the doors of people’s consciousness for change in the system because it was the only way to make things better for the masses.
Public_Awareness_Rally_Liaqat-Bagh_20111218_76.jpg

Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that he wanted Pakistan to be such a country as spends 10% of its Gross Domestic Product on education and health each. There should be mobile courts, which dispose off cases within three days. He said that the nation should beware that if change did not come now, the country would further slide into abyss of darkness. If the nation wanted a real change, it should take to streets and rise up against the corrupt electoral system. The political system being dubbed as democracy would further add to people’s disappointments even if parliaments continued to emerge from it for many decades.
Public_Awareness_Rally_Liaqat-Bagh_20111218_74.jpg
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Shaykh-ul-Islam said that this exploitative system had taken away from people their honour, respect, basic necessities of life, and right to accountability and even to life itself. The desire of leaving a better legacy for the succeeding generations, installing a real democracy and a real change would not be fulfilled without sending this electoral system packing. This system was an instrument periodically used to vote the elite into the corridors of power. He further said that he was neither opposed to political parties nor their leaderships but the very system, which was the mother of all problems.
Public_Awareness_Rally_Liaqat-Bagh_20111218_62.jpg
Public_Awareness_Rally_Liaqat-Bagh_20111218_65.jpg

Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri said that it was regrettable that Pakistan society was neither developed nor developing rather it was declining. It was more a crowd of people without any national purpose, which could bind them together. He said that 80% of people were worried for making their both ends meet, while 60% of them did not take any part in politics. He said that 40% of the people were persuaded to vote through stick and carrot method.
Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that never in the world did a member of parliament have any development funds. Development, he said, was responsibility of the government departments, which had the power to question MNA’s overstepping the line but in Pakistan MNA was all in all.

Speaking on the occasion, Secretary General of Minhaj-ul-Qaruan Dr Raheeq Ahmad Abbasi said that MQI and PAT had launched a countrywide campaign to uproot the current electoral system and the public awareness rally in Rawalpindi was the first link in the same chain. He said that massive turnover of people in the rally was an indication, that people were ready for change. He said that Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri was guiding the nation at this difficult and critical juncture of history. He said that the day was not far when people would join the ranks of PAT and MQI and send the corrupt and exploitative system home.
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Allama Ali Ghazanfar Kararvi, Secretary General of Tehreek Ulama-e-Pakistan, Sehikh Zahid Fayyaz, Ahmad Nawaz Anjum, Sayyid Ibrar Qadri, Chaudhry Lehrasib Gondal, Mustaq Shurwardi, Noshaba Zia, Baber Chaudhry, Tajjamal Hussain, and others also spoke on the occasion.


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Amir-e-Tehreek Sahibzada Faiz-ur-Rehman Durrani, Dr Raheeq Abbasi, Sheikh Zahid Fayyaz, G.M. Malik, Fakher-uz-Zaman Aadil, Mirza Muhammad Asif Qadri, Ahmad Nawaz Anjum, Brig (R) Dr Obaidullah Ranjha, Sayyid Ibrar Qadri, Chaudhry Lehrasib Gondal, Mustaq Shurwardi, Noshaba Zia, Baber Chaudhry, Tajjamal Hussain, and other leaders graced the main stage.
 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Tahir ul Qadri wants national govt under SC's supervision Billi Thaily Sey Bahar Aa Gai


I would be the first one to stand by him if he is against this Sectarian Electoral System, which he is not. How can a Molvi be acceptable for all of the sections of Islam. I'm for peace and totally against Mullaiyyat. If you read dozens of my other posts on various threads, you'll see what my stand is. Many Thanks

why you have so much pain .........................

he never supported mullaiyat..............

he is not a mulla he is a scholar.......Dr. vesey hi saath nhi lagaya hoa.
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Tahir ul Qadri wants national govt under SC's supervision Billi Thaily Sey Bahar Aa Gai

بسم اللہ الرحمٰن الرحیم

یار مجھے تو سمجھ نہیں آتی کے لوگ اس قادری کے معاملے میں اتنی سنجیدہ گفتگو کیسے کرلیتے ہیں
اور جمہوریت اور انقلاب اور سسٹم کی باتیں کرتے ہیں اور سمجھتے ہیں کے بہت بڑے دانشور ہوگئے
حال یہ ہے کے یہ سب باتیں کر کے یہ لوگ کسی مزار پی جا کر دھمال ڈالیں گے یا قوالی سنینگے اور ظاہر کرتے ہیں کے بہت بڑے سکالر ہیں
میرا تو چھوٹا سا مطالبہ ہے کے قادری صاحب کو قادری صاحب کی یو ٹیوب پر موجود ناچتی گاتی اور اچلتی گودتی ویڈیوز کے تناظر میں دیکھا جائے
بس یہی کافی ہے سنجیدہ ہونے کی ضرورت نہیں
 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Tahirul qadris corrupt beliefs


Certain “half-baked” individuals and “intellectual pygmies,” dressed up in the garb of “Molvis”, have claimed that there are no valid accusations against Tahirul Qadri. They are saying that Sunnis have no proofs against Tahirul Qadri’s beliefs. They are saying that the Ulema of the Ahle Sunnah Wa Jamaah are causing open fitna. Ma’ azallah!We want you, the Sunnis, to now use your common sense and judge for yourselves the beliefs of Tahirul Qadri. We have translated Urdu extracts from books written by Tahirul Qadri himself, and some of his corrupt anti-Sunni beliefs. We have commented only on a few of his beliefs, but a more in-depth explanation will follow in the next chapter. Here are his shocking revelations:-
BELIEF ONE
“With all praise to Allah, all the Islamic schools of thought in the issues of beliefs do not possess any differences on basic fundamental beliefs, However, in minor subsidiary matters this difference is only as far as minor details, whose types and kinds are explanatory and detailed. It is due to this, that in missionary affairs to leave the areas of fundamental beliefs and solely become immersed in subsidiary and minor details, and on the basis of this, to make other schools of thought one’s target of criticism is not fairness and wisdom”. Reference : Firqah Parasti Ka Khaatimah Qu Kar Mumkin Heh, page 65.
What Tahirul Qadri is trying to say is that as far as the beliefs of the different groups (firqas) are concerned, they are only based on “subsidiary and minor details”! When Sayyiduna Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) has said that it is these very same groups that will enter Jahannam, Tahirul Qadri says that to pick on the beliefs and teachings of Shias, Deobandis, Khaarajites and other groups is “not fairness and wisdom”. When Sayyiduna Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) has already passed a decision on these groups, do we need a misguided “professor” to tell us that these are small matters! May Allah save us from Tahirul Qadri’s fitnah.
BELIEF TWO
“When the Creator of the Universe did not give the Prophet the authority that he appoint anything according to his wishes in the affairs of religion…”. Reference: Firqah Parasti Ka Khaatimah Qu Kar Mumkin Heh, page 86
Does this “professor” realise the implication of his statement? As far as Tahirul Qadri is concerned, he says that Sayyiduna Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) has no authority over any matter. What greater disrespect towards the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) than this! This belief is akin to that of the Wahabi/Deobandi/Tablighi belief as stated in “Taqwiyatul Jmaan”, page 41 by Molvi Ismail Dehlwi, wherein he says that “Whosoever’s name is Muhammad or Ahmed has no authority over anything”.
BELIEF THREE
“I do not only like performing Salaah behind the Wahabis and Shias but whenever I get the opportunity I perform Salaah behind them”. Reference : Risaalah Deed Shoneed, Lahore, 19 April 1986, page 4
Immediately after this interview, which was recorded in the above magazine, Tahirul Qadri claimed to the Sunni Ulema of Hyderbad that he had never made this statement. The editor of the magazine has the cassette of this interview. Attempts are being made to obtain this cassette.
BELIEF FOUR
“I curse sectarianism. I do not belong to any sect. I am a representative of the Prophet’s community”. Reference: Risaalah Deed Shoneed, Lahore, 19 April 1986, page 4
In a video recording interview taped in Durban (South Africa), Tahirul Qadri, very emotionally, told his unsuspecting audience that he is a Sunni Hanafi. Yet, he holds a firm belief that he does not have an excessive devotion and adherence to any particular group. This “professor” has already cursed himself!
BELIEF FIVE
“In Salaah, to fold one’s hand or to leave one’s hand is not amongst the Wajiba#146adats of Islam. The important thing is Qiyaam. In the (position) of standing l am following (whoever the Imaam is). If the Imaam makes Qiyaam, Sajdah, Qadah or Salaam then the Muqtadi should do the same. At this point, it is not necessary that the Imaam leaves his hand, and the Muqtadi folds his hands and performs the Salaah or leaves his hand”. Reference: Nawaa-e-Waqt Magazine, 19 December 1986.
BELIEF SIX
“I am not working for the loftiness of Hanafiyat or for the school of the Ahle Sunnat”. Reference : Nawaa-e-Waqt Magazine, 19 December 1986, page 4.
If Tahirul Qadri is not working for the school of the Ahle Sunnah, then what is he really working for? The Ahle Sunnah Wa Jammah is the only right group that have been promised Jannah. Tahirul Qadri is not working towards Jannah, need we say towards which place he is heading for!
BELIEF SEVEN
“If a person claims that a certain person who has read the Kalimah is a Munafiq and Kaafir, if this is not similar to sitting on the Throne of Allah and His Prophet, then what is?” Reference: Firqah Parasti Ka Khaatimah Qu Kar Mumkin Heh, page 72
BELIEF EIGHT
“Allah and His Rasool did not issue any school of thought a permit to Jannah. If any person is involved in this conceit, that because he is involved in a certain school of thought and is entitled to Jannat, then this is his vain thoughts and his personal fraud”. Reference: Firqah Parasti Ka Khaatimah Qu Kar Mumkin Heh, page 54
BELIEF NINE
“There should be such a religious institute which is above the constraining teachings of schools of thought so that a student of any school of thought may gain advantage from lessons in this free environment”. Reference: Firqah Parasti Ka Khaatimah Qu Kar Mumkin Heh, page 91
BELIEF TEN
“The clear victims among the worshippers of school of thought have been those people whose education and training have been (confined) to a special school of thought. After they become armed with religious education and they walk in the field of a life of action, then they make their own beliefs and thoughts and the propagation of this as their objectives”. Reference: Firqah Parasti Ka Khaatimah Qu Kar Mumkin Heh, page 108
BELIEF ELEVEN
“Bareillvi’at, Deobandi’at, Ahle Hadithi’at, Shia’at, and these titles (makes me) fearful”. Reference: Firqah Parasti Ka Khaatimah Qu Kar Mumkin Heh, page 111
Tahirul Qadri cannot say that the book, “Firqah Parasti Ka Khaatimah Qu Kar Mumkin Heh” is not his work and not published under the banner of his organisation, “Minhaajul Quran”. We have ample proof to show that this is his own writings!
Sunnis must bear in mind that Shaitaan has always used religious frauds to put forward arguments, which are totally contrary to the Holy Quran and Sunnah. Tahirul Qadri wants Sunnis and all other groups to compromise or come to a settlement. We must remember that Shaitaan uses people to present arguments based on misconstrued (distorted) compromise. We should realise that this “total compromise” is nothing but the evil whisperings of Shaitaan. Almighty Allah has stated in the Holy Quran that “Shaitaan is an open enemy to you”. An appeal is made to innocent Sunnis not to he deceived by this compromise. We should bear in mind that this message of “total compromise” preached by Tahirul Qadri is even against the teachings of I’jma (Consensus). It should, therefore, be the priorities of Sunnis to refer to the learned Ulema of the Anle Sunnah Wa Jamaah if they are in doubt about Tahirul Qadri.
O Muslims! Bear in mind that when a thief intends stealing from a house he first throws a stone. If there is no reaction from the occupants of the house, then the thief takes full advantage of the situation. This self-styled “thinker” and “scholar of Islam”, Tahirul Qadri’s, first stone on the house of Islam was on the issue of DIYAT or compensation for Blood-Money. Tahirul Qadri presented points totally contrary to the Ijma-e-Ummah (Consensus of the Ummah) on this issue.
But, Al’hamdulillah, we wish to state that the occupants of the House of Islam were not sleeping. The foremost among the Ulema-e-Ahle-Sunnah who refuted this “professor’s” corrupt teachings were, amongst others:-
1. Allama Mohammed Abdullali Qadri Ashrafi Barakaati who wrote “Awrat Ki Diy at”. This book contains enough proof exposing the ignorance of Tahirul Qadri.
2. Hazrat Allama Ata Mohammed Saheb Bindiyaalwi.
3. Ghazali-e-Zamaa, Allama Sayed Ahmed Saeed Kazmi (alaihir rahmah)
4. Allama Moulana Abu Dawood Mohammed Sadeck. He has written the book entitled “Khatreh Ki Ghanti” in which the true beliefs of the Taahiriyah group has been clearly exposed.
5. Allama Mufti Mehboob Raza Khan who wrote “Fitnah Taaiiriyah Ki Haqiqat”.
6. Allama Mufti Ghulam Sarwar Al Qaadri who has written two in-depth volumes entitled “Professor Ka I’ imi Wa Tahqeeqih Jaa’ izah”.
Many other books have also been written by the Ulema-e-Ahle Sunnah exposing Tahirul Qadri’s corrupt beliefs and teachings.​
We humbly supplicate in the Darbar of Almighty Allah that He reward these distinguished Ulema for having revealed this new and corrupt group.

REFUTATION OF HIS BELIEFS
HIS CALL FOR COMPROMISE IS COMPARABLE TO KUFR
Almighty Allah states in the Holy Quran: “And cover not truth with falsehood, nor conceal the truth when you know what it is.” (2:42) From this verse we clearly come to understand that truth and falsehood can never be reconciled, just as Islam and Kufr cannot be reconciled. This has always been the belief from the time of Sayyiduna Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam).Sayyiduna Rasoolullah#146s (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) command is very clear when he says: “Do not sit with the corrupt, do not drink with them and do not eat with them.” Therefore, the message of compromise by Tahirul Qadri is against the very principles of Islam.
Sayyiduna Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) said: “My Ummah will be divided into 73 sects. One of them will enter Jannah, while the rest will enter Jahannam.” When he was asked as to who the Ahle Jannah was, he replied: “Those with whom I and my Ashaab are in.” We must bear in mind that the syllable “ma” in this Hadith clearly signifies Aqidah and the fundamental principles of action and “not minor subsidiary issues” as Tahirul Qadri claims.
We must also bear in mind that two other Ahadith of Sayyidnna Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) use the words “Jamaath” and “Sawad-e-Azam”. It is because of this that the Ahle Sunnat Wa Jamaah has been termed “the major group”. It is our Imaan that this is the Jannati group.
Tahirul Qadri believes and says that NO GROUP has been given the permit to enter Jannat, while Sayyiduna Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) assures us that only one group wlll enter Jannat. Is not Tahirul Qadri’s teaching totally contrary to the Holy Ouran and Sunnah? One wonders whose words the followers of Tahirul Qadri.are going to accept!
We wish to pose two very important questions to Tahirul Qadri and to his representatives in South Africa and elsewhere. Firstly, Tahirul Qadri, when you claim that no group has been given the permit to enter Jannah, then why is it that you persist in claiming to be a Sunni? (Proof of this can be seen from two video recordings in Durban)Secondly, Tahirul Qadri, you also claim to accept the decision of A’la Hazrat (radi Allahu anha) from his book, “Husaamul Haramain,” in which the Ulema of the Ahle Sunnah Wa Jamaah have justifiably branded certain Deobandi Molvis as Kaairs. Why brand Deobandis only as Kaafirs when you believe that no group has been given permission to enter Jannah? You yourself have said that you cannot call anybody a Kaafir!
O Sunnis! This man claims to be a scholar of lslam, but see how confused he is about his own Imaan.
Tahirul Qadri claims to be a “lover” of A’la Hazrat, Imam Ahmed Raza Khan (alaihir rahmah). In his lectures he says that he is a Sunni and a follower of A’la Hazrat (alaihir rahmah). Why does he do this? There is a very simple explanation to all of this. He knows that every Sunni is a fervent admirer of A#146la Hazrat (alaihir rahmah). What easier way of luring or trapping the innocent Sunnis than to use the name of a great person who is beloved to them!
We are fully aware of Tahirul Qadri’s plots against Islam. He is so well trained as a master con-artist that when confronted by Sunnis, he claims to be a Sunni! When Deobandis and Shias corner him, he says that there is no problem in performing Salaah behind them. He even practices this! Perhaps he is practising, as described in the following Ouranic Verse: “When they meet those who believe, they say ‘We believe’, But when they are alone with the evil ones, they say ‘We are really with you. We were only joking.”‘ (2: 14) This is a perfect description befitting the founder of the Taahiriyah sect! As it is said in the English phrase: If the cap fits, wear it. It certainly fits the “professor”.
In the monthly magazine of Minhaajul Quran, 12 February (year not stated), many people from various schools of thought were invited by Tahirul Qadri. In this instance, Tahirul Qadri and these persons gave indications that it was important for members of various schools of thought to meet and discuss so that “misconceptions” can be removed. A question still hangs in the air. Was this really the reason for the meeting? Or was it merely a very diplomatic way of accepting and compromising with other groups?
This “professor” claims to be a Sunni. He has full knowledge of all the Kufr statements made by the Deobandis and, in spite of this, says that compromise with them is still possible. He has also stated that whoever doubts the Kufr of certain Deobandi Molvis, they themselves are Kaafirs. Which Deobandi can truly admit that they regard certain of their leaders as Kaafirs? After knowing this and knowing that the majority of Deobandis still consider those Deobandis as their leaders, even though a Kufr Fatawa has been issued against them, Tahirul Qadri still says that Muslims must compromise with them. We thank Almighty Allah for guiding us through His rightly-guided Ulema of the Ahle Sunnah Wa Jamaah and not leading us to Kufr.
Tahirul Qadri claims that he has never performed Salaah behind a Shia Imaam. According to a teacher, Sayyid Bakhtiar Hussain Subzwari, of a Shia madressa (Jaamiatun Muntazir), situated in Model Town, Lahore Pakistan), who met Tahirul Qadiri in Iran confirms that Tahirul Qadri and himself performed Salaah behind a Shia Imaam.
In Denmark, Tahirul Qadri performed Salaah behind a certain Molvi Idris Deobandi. The Sunni Ulema wrote letters about this incident. These letters are in the possession of Mufti Ghulam Sarwar Al Qadri and Moulana Abu Dawood Mohammed Sadeck.Judge for yourself as to what type of person Tahirul Qadri is! He calls himself a “staunch Sunni” but does not hesitate in intentionally reading his Salaah behind the enemies of Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) and his Ashaab (radi Allahu anham). See how Tahirul Qadri compromises!
At this moment we would like to mention an incident that occurred during the time of Sayyiduna Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). It is reported that a dispute arose between a Jew and a so-called Muslim. When this case was brought to Sayyiduna Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), he ruled in favour of the Jew. When this so-called Muslim went to Sayyiduna Umar Farooq (radi Allahu anhu) to complain about the decision given against him, Sayyiduna Umar Farooq (radi Allahu anhu) immediately drew his sword and struck of the head of this so-called Muslim (Munafiq).
Had Tahirul Qadri been witness to such an incident, would be have said that Sayyiduna Umar Farooq (radi Allahu anhu) was “sitting on the Throne of Allah and His Prophet.”According to Tahirul Qadri only Allah and His Rasool (sallal laahu alaihi wasallarn) have knowledge of the Kaafir and Munafiq. We ask Tahirul Qadri, did Sayyiduna Umar Farooq (radi Allahu anhu) perform such a deed without knowledge? We are sure that you will say yes, that he had knowledge. In the same manner, today too, the Ulema-e-Ahle Sunnan by virtue of their knowledge can ascertain who is a Munafiq, a Kaafir, a Murtad or a Faasiq. After all, can you not by virtue of your “knowledge” perceive a Munafiq? Perhaps, you yourself are “saving your own skin” from the decision of the Ulema of the Ahle Sunnah Wa Jamaah from branding you to a term applicable to your own self! Are you not contradicting your beliefs by calling certain Deobandi Molvis and their followers Kaafirs!
It is a fact of documented history that when the Muslims were still in a minority in Madinatul Munawarrah, Sayyiduna Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) banished the Munafiqs from Masjidun Nabawi. Sayyiduna Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) never agreed to a compromise with the Munafiqs for whatever reasons.
Today, when we Muslims are in a majority as when compared to the Munafiqs amongst us, we will never compromise on Islamic principles. But Tahirul Qadiri, who claims to be a “representative from the Prophet’s community” believes that we must compromise with those who are misled. He believes that we are now living in modem times and circumstances. In other words, he knows the present times and circumstances better than even Sayyiduna Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). Ma’ azzallah!If compromise is the remedy of Muslim survival then Sayyidnna Imam Hussain (radi Allahu anhu) would have compromised with Yazid, after all, Yazid had also recited the Kalima Yet, he never did. (A’la Hazrat, Imam Ahmad Raza Khan (alaihir rahmah) would have compromised with certain Deobandis. Yet, he never did. Why? Because true Muslims believe: “And cover not truth with falsehood, nor conceal the truth when you know what it is.” (2: 42)
A’la Hazrat, Imam Ahmed Raza Khan (radiAllahu anhu) has clearly stated that, “To organise such a function in which Shias and Wahabis can be members, to attend such functions is Haraam and to frequent the corrupt sects is like afire. Only such a person will donate money to this function who has no religion and has totally lost all senses. Therefore, stay far from the corrupt, remain aIoof from them so that they will not be able to corrupt you or immerse you in their fitnah.” Alhamdullllah, A’la Hazrat (alaihir rahmah) never compromised. We too will never compromise!
MINHAAJUL QURAN” IS IN FACT “MINHAAJUS SHAITAAN”
Minhaajul Quran is an organisation that has been formed by Tahirul Qadri. Let us see what he has to say about the policy of this organization. Tahirul Qadri says: “In my Institute, Minhaajul Quran, members of Jamaat-e-Islami can also become members. In Minhaajul Quran even followers of the AhIe Hadith, Shia, and Deobandis can also be members.” (Reference: Jung Newspaper, 2 7February 1987)
Let us now inspect the Islamic decision of Ala Hazrat (alaihir rahmah) about what he says about such mixed gatherings. A’la Hazrat (radi AIlahu anhu) said: “To organise such a mixed function in which Shias and Wahabis can be members, to attend such functions is Haraam, and to frequent the corrupt sects is like a fire. Only such a person will donate money to this function who has no religion and has totally lost all senses. Therefore, stay far from the corrupt, remain aloof from them so that they will not be able to corrupt you or immerse you in their fitnah”.
DECLARES THAT A “RASOOL” IS NOT A RASOOL
In part 2, page 26 of his book, “Ajzaa’e Imaan”, Tahirul Qadri declares that a Rasool has to be sent with a Revealed Kitab to be regarded as a Rasool. Yet, it is an accepted fact according to Surah Maryam, verse 54, of the Holy Quran, wherein Hazrat Ismail (alaihis salaam) is regarded as a Rasool and a Nabi, although no Revealed Kitab was sent to him. If you are prepared to accept Tahirul Qadri’s definition of a Rasool, you will be guilty of excluding a great Prophet like Hazrat Ismail (alaihis salaam) from the list of Rasools. Allah forbid us from such heresy!
CONTRADICTION OF ISSUE OF DIYAT WITH FOUR IMAAMS
Tahirul Qadri says that he is a true “Hanafi”. Now let us see how this “Hanafi” totally contradicts the verdicts of not only Imam Abu Hanifa (alaihir rahmah) but all four celebrated Imams (radi Allahu anhum). This man says that as far as Diyat of both men and women is concerned, the amounts are equal.
Imam Muhammad bin Hasan Shaybaani (alaihir rahmah), one of the students of Imam Azam, Imam Abu Hanifa (alaihir rahmah) states: “Imam Abu Hanifa in the issue of Diyat ha’s mentioned that the Diyat for women, be it a severe wound or loss of life, is half that of male.” (Kitaabul Hujjah, VoL 4, page 276) The Diyat of the female, being half that of a male, has also been substantiated in the Muwatta, page 670, of Imam Malik (alaihir rahmah). Imam Shafee (alaihir rahmah) states: “I have never seen any scholars in my time and those preceding me refuting the fact that the Diyat of women is half that of man, and this is 50 camels.” (Kitaabul Umm, Vol. 5, page 106)
This is also accepted in the authentic book of the Hambali school of thought whose leader is Imam Ahmed bin Hambal (alaihir rahmah), the fourth Imam. (Ar Roudul Murraba, Volume 2, page 339)
From this issue we learn that Tahirul Qadri is not a Hanafi. In fact, he does not follow any Madhab! He is attempting to form a “fifth Madhab” in Islam.
INDIRECTLY CLAIMING TO BE A MUJTAHID
In refutation of Tahirul Qadri, Hadrat Moulana Sayed Ahmed Saeed Kaazmi Shah Saheb (alaihir rahmah), considered to be the Gazzalli of his age, wrote a book entitled, “Islam me Awrat Ki Diyat”.
In this book he considers Tahirul Qadri a misled and corrupt individual for having refuted I’jma (Consensus) of the Ahle Sunnah Wa Jamaah. He clearly states that if a person refutes an argumentation of a Mujtahid, then that person has to be on par with a Mujtahid.
HIS TRUE FEELINGS OF “TAQLEED”
Tahirul Qadri says: “If Taqleed is followed and based on all matters then the capacity of knowledge of Muslims will become tainted and useless.” (Firqah Parasti Ka Khaatimah Qu Kar Mumkin Heh, page 25)
We can imagine what he must be thinking of all those giant Awliya and Ulema of the Ahle Sunnah Wa Jamaah who have followed Taqleed throughout their lives. What a great enemy of the Ahle Sunnah Wa Jamaah this man is!
“QADRI” TITLE MISLEADING
Hazrat Allama Ata Mohammed Saheb Bindiyaalwi, a leading Sunni Scholar in Pakistan, has stated that “It is very sad that a person who calls himself a Qadri, refutes the teachings of Ghousal Azam, Shaikh Abdul Qaadir Jilaani (alaihir rahmah). Even Ghousal Azam (radi Allahu anhu’s) teachings are in accordance with I’jmah (Consensus) in the issue of Diyat. This fact is substantiated by his student, Ibne Qudhaamuh. And we are certain that his student knows him better than a scholar presently going around calling himself a Qadri.”This substantiates that Tahirul Qadri’s title of “Qadri” does not befit him. His policy of adopting this title is synonymous with his mission, which is but a deception or ploy. Again his intention is nothing but to deceive you, the innocent Sunnis! After all, which Sunni will doubt a person who has the title of “Qadri” after his name.
In the ealier sixties, a staunch Wahabi/Deobandi poet and Molvi arrived in South Africa posing as a Sunni and Aashiq-e-Rasool. He was the guest of the Buzme Adab Society. His name was Mahirul Qadri. Look at the similarity of their names. He deceived a lot of Sunnis and attacked the great Sunni Ulema subsequently in his book. Dear Muslims, by Tahirul Qadri refusing to accept the I’jma on the issue of Diyat, he is not only trying to prove that he is a Mujtahid, but on par with them. We ask you: do you think that this man is on par with Imam A#146zam, Imam Abu Hanifa (alaihir rahmah), who was the Imam-e-Mujtahid?
MISINTERPRETION AND PRESENTATION OF QURANIC VERSES AND ARABIC WORDS
We should remember that for a person to present a Tafsir on the Holy Quran he has to be well versed with the Arabic language. He must make sure that he does not recite the Arabic verses incorrectly. He must not quote from the Holy Quran incorrectly. He must be knowledgeable of the basic laws of Arabic Grammar.
This “scholar of Islam” cannot even satisfy these basic rules. He has proven that not only is he totally ignorant about the Arabic language but also of the Holy Quran. In page 123 of his book “Tasmiyatut Quran”, he incorrectly quotes the 7th verse of Sura Mu’min. In the same book, page 110, he gives the examples of many words, which is based on the “Scale of Ar Rahmaan”. However, two examples presented by this man to prove his statements are totally incorrect as both these words are not included in the “scale of Ar Rahmaan”.
This again proves his ignorance as far as the Arabic language is concerned. He is not qualified to make Tafsir of the Holy Quran.
HIS REJECTION OF A FUNDAMENTAL BELIEF OF ISLAM
We should bear in mind that a person who refutes a fundamental belief of Islam is certainly a Kaafir. Therefore, to deliberately assist this person or to create an accord with that person is Haraam. It is our belief that members of the Deobandi, Wahabi, Shia or Qadiani group (firqah) have rejected certain fundamental beliefs of Islam. If this was not the case, then the Ulema of the Ahle Sunnah Wa Jamaah would not have dared considered these groups as misguided or Kaafirs.
Yet, Tahirul Qadiri declares in his book, “Firqah Parasti Ka Khaatimah Qu Kar Mumkin Heh”, page 59, that: “This is an indisputable fact that between all ‘Islamic group’s’ fundamental beliefs are common. The system of Islamic beliefs stands upon this common foundation. Muslims do not refute the Nabi or Rasool and his Shariah and, besides Islam, they do not accept any other religion. Every Muslim accepts and believes in both action and beliefs pertaining to Tauheed, Risalah, Wahy, the Hereafter, the presence of Angels, the finality of prophethood, Salaah, Roza, Zakaah and Hajj and its compulsion. If there is any dispute then this is only in minor subsidiary issues. This is only according to explanation and interpretation. This does not effect the foundation of Islamic beliefs.”Astagfirullah! Concealing the Kufr of others is also Kufr. What Tahirul Qadri is really doing is that he is trying to accommodate and satisfy the corrupt sects by cleverly hiding their derogatory statements made against Allah and His Rasool (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). He says that there is no fundamental difference between the different groups – the Sunni, Deobandi, Wahabi, Shia, etc. He claims that this dispute is only in minor subsidiary issues. He also claims that for Sunnis to target other groups by merely using minor subsidiary issues is unfair.
The above statement of Tahirul Qadri is a contradiction of the statement of Sayyiduna Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) who said that 72 groups will enter into Jahannam and only one, the Ahle Sunnah, will enter into Jannah. Tahirul Qadri is now trying to prove that Rasoolullah (salal laahu alaihi wasallam) was incorrect in his statement Ma’aazallah! What further proofs does one need to prove this man’s open insult to Sayyiduna Rasoolullah (salal laahu alaihi wasallam)?
O Sunni Muslim, let us hear the reply from the blessed lips of A’la Hazrat (alaihir rahmah). A question was put to A’la Hazrat (alaihir rahmah) which read, “What do the Ulema of religion have to say about Zaid who is a Sayed and also an Imam. He also considers the Wahabi, Shia, Deobandi and Ahle Sunnah as equal.” (Fatawah Radwiyah, vol.3, pg. 292). A’la Hazrat (alaihir rahmah)’s reply to this question was: “He who believes that the Ahle Sunnah, the Wahabi, the Deobandis and the Shia are equal, so profound is his omittance from the folds of Islam. Salaah behind such a person is Baatil, similar to the performance of Juma Salaah behind a Hindu and a Christian.”Therefore Sunni Muslims, do not let this “professor” deceive you. No greater enemy of A’la Hazrat (alaihir rahmah) has appeared in the present times, than this “reformer”. He said that from the time of A#146la Hazrat’s passing away, no structural progress has been made in this blessed place.
Do you know that by this statement, he has insulted the blessed family of A’la Hazrat (alaihir rahmah), which includes such Awliya as: Hujjatul Islam, Hazrat Haamid Raza Khan (alaihir rahmah) and Huzoor Mufti Azam-Hind, Shah Mustapha Raza Khan (alaihir rahmah). These were the illustrious sons of A#146la Hazrat (alaihir rahmah) who followed the great Imam.
He has also insulted every Khalifa of A’la Hazrat (alaihir rahmah) who include, among others, such blessed personalities as:
A. Qutbe Madina, Hazrat Moulana Zia-ud-Deen Madani (alaihir rahmah), the father of Hazrat Shaikh Fazlur Rahmaan Madani (alaihir rahmah) of Madina Shareef,
B. Hazrat Moulana Abdul Aleem Siddique, who was the Shaikh and Spiritual teacher of Professor Fazlur Rahman Ansaari (radi Allahu anhum).
He has also insulted practically every Sunni Scholar and layman whose spiritual allegiance is to one of the successors of A’la Hadrat (alaihir rahmah).
PROVEN A LIAR
Mufti Mohammed Hussein Naeemi relates that he once found himself sitting next to Tahirul Qadri in a function held at the Jinnah Hall, Pakistan.
Tahirul Qadri told him, “Mufti Saheb! Today is the time to take the lead”.
When Mufti Mohammed Hussein Naeemi enquired as to how this was possible, Tahirul Qadri replied, “If you proclaim that the Diyat of men and women are equivalent then you will be able to take the lead.”
Mufti Mohammed Hussein Naeemi states that to further prove his point Tahirul Qadri gave him references from three books to prove that Diyat for men and women is equal. However, Multi Mohammed Hussein declares that when he refereed to these three books none of them proved that Diyat for men and women is equal. (Rooz Nama Wafaaq, Amrooz Jang Lahore, Jasaarat, Karachi, 19 October 1984)
It is clear to you that Tahirul Qadri tried to mislead Mufti Naeemi on the Diyat issue. He was proven a liar!
HIS BELIEFS WITH REGARDS TO CONDITIONS IN THE QABAR
In part 1, page 215 of his book, “Aftaa’e lmaan”, Tahinil Qadri writes: “In the issue of resurrection after death it is not necessary that the same body will come to life the second time with the same parts and cells, which was, as was found in the world.” He also considers the punishment in the grave as a dream. These beliefs of Tahirul Qadri are new to Islam and totally contrary to the Holy Quran and Sunnah.​
Let us see though, what the Holy Quran has to declare. In Surah Qiyaamah, verses 14, it is stated: “I do call to Witness the Resurrection Day: and I do call to witness the Self-reproaching Spirit: Does man think we cannot assemble his bodies, No! we are able to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers.”
ULAMA OF OKARA TACKLE THE PROFESSOR
In the discourse you are about to unfold, the Jama’at-e-Ahle Sunnat and the Ulama of Okara Pakistaan have taken up the cudgels against Professor Tahir Sahib and have approached the Sage of this Age, Sheikh-ul-Qur’aan wat Tafseer, Faqeeh-ul-’Asr and Ustaazul Ulama, Hazrat Maulana AI-Haaj Abul Fazl Ghulaam Ali Qaadri Ashrafi Okarvi. He was asked by the Ulama of Okara to formulate a questionnaire to put forth to Professor Tahir Sahib in order to once and for all determine whether he is a Sunni Sahi-ul-Aqidah or just a pretender, so that the Ummah at large could be informed accordingly.
Just as expected, a lengthy period has elapsed, but the Professor has maintained a deadly silence. The Professor’s silence to these questions in Pakistaan was so deafening that it must have shattered the eardrums of the Tahiris. Here, a little insight to the calibre and personality of the QUESTIONER is incumbent to familiarise the reader with this Towering Colossus of a Scholar who runs the rule over the “intellectual pygmy”. Hazrat Maulana Ghulaam Ali Okarvi, for more than 50 years has carried out the duty of teaching Qur’aan and Ahadeeth, and by so doing, made thousands of individuals into Scholars of Deen. By virtue of his learning and services to lslaam is called, “Sheikh-ul-Islaam wal Muslimeen”. Even the Ulama of Egypt, Syria and Iraq have sought from him permission to teach Hadeeth and Tafseer. Naqeebul Ashraaf, Saiyyidina Peer Taahir Alaauddeen Geelani (may Allah shower His mercy upon him) used to refer to him with the title of “Ustaazu Asaatiza tina” (Teacher of our teachers). This Alim-e-Rabbani has been the Ustaaz of even Mujaddid-e-Maslak-e-Ahle Sunnat, Hazrat Maulana Muhammad Shafee Okarvi (Alaihir Rahmah). Among his other pupils are, Hazrat Maulana Yaar Khan, head teacher of the Jaami’ah Ashraful Madaaris, Okara, Mufti Muhammad Abdus-Subhaan Qaadri of Darul Uloom Qaadiryah Subhaaniyah, Karachi, and his son, Mufti Muhammmad Abdul Aleem Qaadri and numerous high-profile Ulama.​
Since the Professor has failed to convince the Pakistaani Sunnis of his “Sunniyat” by his failure to answer the questions, lets see if he succeeds in South Africa and elsewhere where the very same questions are once again put to him. The questions are not really difficult to answer, any ordinary Sunni will be able to answer them within minutes, because only a “yes” or a “no” would be sufficient as a response. Why the ducking, the dodging, the diving and the evading, is clearly beyond us.

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You always bring sectarian hatred
you always post copied material
your one point agenda to call muslims ,mushriks and kafirs

today i challenge you

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mustafvi

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Tahir ul Qadri wants national govt under SC's supervision Billi Thaily Sey Bahar Aa Gai

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ramay67

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Billi Thaily Sey Bahar Aa Gai

chalo yaar kaheen quran o hadyt se ye baat sbit kr do k christians k saath christmas mananey se banda kafir ho jata he ya uska deen bikk jata he.........

ore ye jittno ne tumhari post like ki he agar ye b vakae halal k hain to le aiey koi aisee ayat ya koi aisee hadyt...........
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ثمر بھائی سورہ الکافرون کی وجہ نزول کسی عام مسلمان سے بھی پوشیدہ نہیں ہے۔اسکے علاوہ جو مسلمان بھی حضرت عیسی علیہ سلام کو عیسائی عقیدہ کے مطابق مانے گا ان کے ساتھھ انکی اس دعا میں ہاتھھ اٹھا کر شامل ہوگا جو دعا مقدس باپ بیٹا روح القدس اور کنواری ماں جیسے کفریہ کلمات سے شروع ہوتی ہو وہ پکا کافر ہے اس پر لازم ہے کہ وہ تجدید ایمان کرے اور آئیندہ ایسا نہ کرنے کا عہد کرے اور اس پر پکا رہے۔
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