tz00007

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Dr.Tahir ul Qadri referred in International Research Papers...!

he is no big scholar or genius..or any able guy.. the books that he "claims" to have written are written by those thousands of madrassa students.. copy paste kar k books likhna koi kamaal nahi

only reason west is giving him attention is because he went to west and in west he did press conference against taliban..

angrezo ka chamcha hay... suna hay is baar christmas mey taahiur qadri santa claus baneyga..:lol:
 

ahsanuck

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Dr.Tahir ul Qadri referred in International Research Papers...!

Who is asking you to call him "big or genius" scholar....he is small scholar or even if you want in any words you like..you have right..I would not argue with you.....with due apology,how silly is this to say that his books are written by his students...OK...its mean if his students are of such a caliber that they can write 1200 books then what would be the status of teacher???...there are 100s orgnaizations , 100,000 madrassa riunning in the country for centries , producing 100,000s students then they should have written many thousands books..please at least You can give one example in the world like Dr.Tahir ul Qadri only writer of 1200 books...Also , I thinky you forget to declare this that Tahir ul Qadri has not delivered 7000 lectures but these are delivered by his students???? Let me correct one thing that Dr.Tahir ul Qadri has not established a single madressa in Pakistan or world but has established one chartered university , 700 schools and colleges.....! Listen this small clip..it is delivered by who...you decide yourself...
he is no big scholar or genius..or any able guy.. the books that he "claims" to have written are written by those thousands of madrassa students.. copy paste kar k books likhna koi kamaal nahi

only reason west is giving him attention is because he went to west and in west he did press conference against taliban..

angrezo ka chamcha hay... suna hay is baar christmas mey taahiur qadri santa claus baneyga..:lol:
 

A.Chaudhry

Banned
Re: Soon Pakistani Nation will stand behind Tahir ul Qadri against Corrupt Political Mafia: Hassan Nisar

Minhaj_Bedari-e-Shaoor_Against_Worst-System_36.jpg
 

anaskhan

Citizen
Re: Dr.Tahir ul Qadri referred in International Research Papers...!

Dear Ahsanuck,

In 1990s we use listen lectures of Tahir ul qadri; due to certain reasons we quit to listen his lectures reasons will be given below seprately.

First of all many of the islamic scholars have a conflict with his opinions; as listeners i might have thousand of Questions in my mind but you should only prove those questions from Quran and Hadees and then Sahab (R.A).

Reasons

In 97 he use a drama(Fake Dream) to promote him self and he him self became sheikh ul islam which he should do at all. Sheikh ul Islam title is given to those where majority feel that must be given this title and not in present only to those who use to be in past.

About Fake Dream of Tahir ul Qadri he Said our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) came into his dream and said lot of things regards to pakistan and the nation.... if you will watch this video you will definatley get to know the fake and artifically he was crying and notifiy that to the followers i am also attaching the link you must watchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz1abyutUeI&feature=related
I question many Maulana's and other islamic scholars if one see Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in his/her dream they mentioned clearly that in detail that Shaitaan cant create face of our beloved Prophet (PBUH) but he can definately come into your dream where he can claim that he is muhammad; now the question remains here that how you will make sure who you saw? And then i asked the maulana's and others if we saw such dream you should discuss it with the people, they said you shouldn't. So its very clear that it was a drama where tahir ul qadri publicy states that Prophet (PBUH) Said if tahir will maintain all of the things regards to my stay i will be the guest and tahir will be the host; and then tahir told public that i have no money you can listen these words clearly in the attached link.

And recently i have seen a video of tahir where he's talking to a burined men in the grave and the followers are so stupid they dont question there cheif and dont study Quran and hadees, attached is the link.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXxt5bkEE6c

Allah Proctect us from such Liar; i have no personal issues as human.
لعنت اللہ الا لکازبین المنافقین
 

A.Chaudhry

Banned
Re: Dr.Tahir ul Qadri referred in International Research Papers...!

Dear Ahsanuck,

In 1990s we use listen lectures of Tahir ul qadri; due to certain reasons we quit to listen his lectures reasons will be given below seprately.

First of all many of the islamic scholars have a conflict with his opinions; as listeners i might have thousand of Questions in my mind but you should only prove those questions from Quran and Hadees and then Sahab (R.A).

Reasons

In 97 he use a drama(Fake Dream) to promote him self and he him self became sheikh ul islam which he should do at all. Sheikh ul Islam title is given to those where majority feel that must be given this title and not in present only to those who use to be in past.

About Fake Dream of Tahir ul Qadri he Said our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) came into his dream and said lot of things regards to pakistan and the nation.... if you will watch this video you will definatley get to know the fake and artifically he was crying and notifiy that to the followers i am also attaching the link you must watchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz1abyutUeI&feature=related
I question many Maulana's and other islamic scholars if one see Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in his/her dream they mentioned clearly that in detail that Shaitaan cant create face of our beloved Prophet (PBUH) but he can definately come into your dream where he can claim that he is muhammad; now the question remains here that how you will make sure who you saw? And then i asked the maulana's and others if we saw such dream you should discuss it with the people, they said you shouldn't. So its very clear that it was a drama where tahir ul qadri publicy states that Prophet (PBUH) Said if tahir will maintain all of the things regards to my stay i will be the guest and tahir will be the host; and then tahir told public that i have no money you can listen these words clearly in the attached link.

And recently i have seen a video of tahir where he's talking to a burined men in the grave and the followers are so stupid they dont question there cheif and dont study Quran and hadees, attached is the link.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXxt5bkEE6c

Allah Proctect us from such Liar; i have no personal issues as human.
لعنت اللہ الا لکازبین المنافقین


I hope you will get the detailed answer by @ahsanuck , meanwhile I have one question to ask you that who gave you the authority to judge the true or fake dreams?
 

A.Chaudhry

Banned
Re: Dr.Tahir ul Qadri referred in International Research Papers...!

@tz00007 , I don't understand your problem. I think you are confused and trying to confuse others as well. Now this is the campaign you are talking about:

[h=2]Ramadan 2012 ‘Education for All’ campaign Launched[/h]
Minhaj Welfare Foundation today has launched its 2012 Ramadan campaign. A media campaign has been launched online and on TV channels, through print material and on buses and tube stationsacross London, to raise awareness and funds for its Education programmes for the poor and needy children across the world.


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[SUP]th[/SUP] July will see the launch of an advertising campaign carrying the slogan “Educate a Child this Ramadan” a message from Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, the Founding Leader of Minhaj Welfare Foundation on London buses and tube stations. The campaign will focus on providing quality educationto more than 145,000 children in the developing countries, a step closer to ending poverty.

Promotional videos are being relayed online and on TV channels which will be broadcasted throughout the world encouraging the donor community to donate to this year’s campaign.
As part of the campaign, MWF will also be distributing Zakat leaflets to Mosques, community centres and to households across UK and Europe. The leafleting campaign will give a clear insight to future aims and objectives of MWF.

Source: http://www.minhajwelfare.org/?p=2830
 

ramay67

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Soon Pakistani Nation will stand behind Tahir ul Qadri against Corrupt Political Mafia: Hassan Nisar

قادری صاب خود اپنی پارٹی سمیت اس نظام کا حصہ رہے ہیں۔ اب کہیں بدیسی آقاؤں کی طرف سے اشارہ ملا ہے تو یہ نظام سازش بن گیا ہے۔ اسے کہتے ہیں ہتھ ناں پوہنچے تھو کوڑی۔ اس وقت شعور کہاں سو رہا تھا جناب کا جب مشرف کے دور میں وزیراعظم والی شیروانی سلوا کے پھر رہے تھے۔ اب جبکہ عمران خان قوم کو ایک پلیٹ فارم پر لے آیا ہے تو قادری صاب کا شعور بیدار ہو گیا ہے۔​
 

A.Chaudhry

Banned
Re: Soon Pakistani Nation will stand behind Tahir ul Qadri against Corrupt Political Mafia: Hassan Nisar


????? ??? ??? ???? ????? ???? ?? ???? ?? ??? ??? ???? ?? ???? ????? ????? ?? ??? ?? ????? ??? ?? ?? ?? ???? ???? ?? ??? ??? ??? ???? ??? ??? ??? ?????? ??? ????? ?? ??? ???? ???? ?? ??? ??? ???? ?? ?? ???? ?? ??? ??? ???????? ???? ??????? ???? ?? ??? ??? ???? ?? ???? ????? ??? ??? ?? ??? ???? ???? ?? ?? ??? ?? ?? ????? ??? ?? ???? ????? ?? ??? ???​

Who says that this is a new thought that Dr Tahir ul Qadri is raising voice against this system, secondly if Imran Khan is sincere then then this point of view goes in his favor as well.

 

evanescence

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Dr.Tahir ul Qadri referred in International Research Papers...!

Has he written Himself his books??

Have you read any his book?

Brother there are also many wirtten fatwas against sucide attack and terrorism by Other Muslim scolars from the whole worls?

For God sake go and get some information about him or on the topic .... its better to be informed before opening mouth against anyone.
 

evanescence

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Dr.Tahir ul Qadri referred in International Research Papers...!

he is no big scholar or genius..or any able guy.. the books that he "claims" to have written are written by those thousands of madrassa students.. copy paste kar k books likhna koi kamaal nahi

only reason west is giving him attention is because he went to west and in west he did press conference against taliban..

angrezo ka chamcha hay... suna hay is baar christmas mey taahiur qadri santa claus baneyga..:lol:

I am feeling sorry for your lack of information. By the way what is your qualification??? if you have written your CV by yourself you might have an idea how much pain staking work is writing a book and you've simply said copy paste. ALLAH KA WASTA HAI TUMHAIN.
 

evanescence

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Dr.Tahir ul Qadri referred in International Research Papers...!

Dear Ahsanuck,

In 1990s we use listen lectures of Tahir ul qadri; due to certain reasons we quit to listen his lectures reasons will be given below seprately.

First of all many of the islamic scholars have a conflict with his opinions; as listeners i might have thousand of Questions in my mind but you should only prove those questions from Quran and Hadees and then Sahab (R.A).

Reasons

In 97 he use a drama(Fake Dream) to promote him self and he him self became sheikh ul islam which he should do at all. Sheikh ul Islam title is given to those where majority feel that must be given this title and not in present only to those who use to be in past.

About Fake Dream of Tahir ul Qadri he Said our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) came into his dream and said lot of things regards to pakistan and the nation.... if you will watch this video you will definatley get to know the fake and artifically he was crying and notifiy that to the followers i am also attaching the link you must watchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz1abyutUeI&feature=related
I question many Maulana's and other islamic scholars if one see Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in his/her dream they mentioned clearly that in detail that Shaitaan cant create face of our beloved Prophet (PBUH) but he can definately come into your dream where he can claim that he is muhammad; now the question remains here that how you will make sure who you saw? And then i asked the maulana's and others if we saw such dream you should discuss it with the people, they said you shouldn't. So its very clear that it was a drama where tahir ul qadri publicy states that Prophet (PBUH) Said if tahir will maintain all of the things regards to my stay i will be the guest and tahir will be the host; and then tahir told public that i have no money you can listen these words clearly in the attached link.

And recently i have seen a video of tahir where he's talking to a burined men in the grave and the followers are so stupid they dont question there cheif and dont study Quran and hadees, attached is the link.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXxt5bkEE6c

Allah Proctect us from such Liar; i have no personal issues as human.
لعنت اللہ الا لکازبین المنافقین

These questions are not new and you are not the first person who asked them on this forum. Threads and even those youtube videos you qouted there in your post have also some videos as response. Now its totally depends upon your level of acception and understanding. If those videos and threads previously been discussed under these heads wont satisfy you then no one can. Everybody has its own opinion and you also have the full right to express that in good manner which i appreciate. I dont understand those people who lost appropriate words to express their point of view but what is the point to abuse a person.
One liner ...... you have choosen 3 or more videos from youtube and what about others 100 of thousands videos available on same youtube explaining different subjects about islam and world peace.
 

ahsanuck

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Dr.Tahir ul Qadri referred in International Research Papers...!

Brother anaskhan, Thanks for your comments. First of all, every one has right to listen or quit listening any scholar no matter whether with reason or without. But, I am surprised that you have put some wrong blames on Tahir ul Qadri without trying to look into the truth or at least you should have heard the point of view of the person on whom you are putting wrong allegations , after listening or reading his viewpoint ,still you have right whether to accept or not, agree or disagree with him...!

Now, reference to your raised questions, I am surprised how is it possible that you could not find true & Islamic legal position of stated issues like true dreams of Tahir ul qadri & their interpretations and reminding Kalma to dead body or othes because today is not early 1990 period but global village and all information is available at inernet easily and truth or clarifications of such allegations is already avilable on internet if you google, you can find it even youtube but condition is one is unbiased, sincere and real truth seeker otherwise he would remain in his own world of ignorance due to some jealousy,disliking or hatreds.

Shortly, I would refer you links to have truth. As far as dreams of Tahir ul Qadri is concerned, they were not fake not lies but they were true dreams seen by Tahir ul Qadri because dream in which Prophet PBUH is seen always true and a person who tells lie in telling related to Prophet PBUH would go to hell fire. It is the sunnah of Prophet to listen and tell the dreams. Remember, dreams always need interpretations. For more details watch this clarifcation of all the issue from the mouth of Tahir ul Qadri.
Also about reading kalma to dead person, it is also the sunnah of Prophet so open this link for details.


For clarifcation of these and some other wrong allegations on Tahir ul Qadri, please find here http://www.minhaj.com.pk/en/



Without going into details

Dear Ahsanuck,

In 1990s we use listen lectures of Tahir ul qadri; due to certain reasons we quit to listen his lectures reasons will be given below seprately.

First of all many of the islamic scholars have a conflict with his opinions; as listeners i might have thousand of Questions in my mind but you should only prove those questions from Quran and Hadees and then Sahab (R.A).

Reasons

In 97 he use a drama(Fake Dream) to promote him self and he him self became sheikh ul islam which he should do at all. Sheikh ul Islam title is given to those where majority feel that must be given this title and not in present only to those who use to be in past.

About Fake Dream of Tahir ul Qadri he Said our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) came into his dream and said lot of things regards to pakistan and the nation.... if you will watch this video you will definatley get to know the fake and artifically he was crying and notifiy that to the followers i am also attaching the link you must watchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz1abyutUeI&feature=related
I question many Maulana's and other islamic scholars if one see Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in his/her dream they mentioned clearly that in detail that Shaitaan cant create face of our beloved Prophet (PBUH) but he can definately come into your dream where he can claim that he is muhammad; now the question remains here that how you will make sure who you saw? And then i asked the maulana's and others if we saw such dream you should discuss it with the people, they said you shouldn't. So its very clear that it was a drama where tahir ul qadri publicy states that Prophet (PBUH) Said if tahir will maintain all of the things regards to my stay i will be the guest and tahir will be the host; and then tahir told public that i have no money you can listen these words clearly in the attached link.

And recently i have seen a video of tahir where he's talking to a burined men in the grave and the followers are so stupid they dont question there cheif and dont study Quran and hadees, attached is the link.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXxt5bkEE6c

Allah Proctect us from such Liar; i have no personal issues as human.
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BKKhan

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Soon Pakistani Nation will stand behind Tahir ul Qadri against Corrupt Political Mafia: Hassan Nisar

Bhai...kis ko kis ke saath compare ker rahe ho... Imran khan ek toheed parast insaan hai, jo sirf ek allah ke aage sar jhkata hai...
Jabke tahirul qadri ek mushrik , bida'ati aur gumrah admi hai...jo firoun ki tarah logon se sajday karwata hai apne ap ko....is ke peechay qom jayegi, to samander me gharq ho jayegi....
 

ramay67

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Soon Pakistani Nation will stand behind Tahir ul Qadri against Corrupt Political Mafia: Hassan Nisar

Who says that this is a new thought that Dr Tahir ul Qadri is raising voice against this system, secondly if Imran Khan is sincere then then this point of view goes in his favor as well.

?????? ?? ?????? ???? ?? ??? ???? ?? ???? ?? ????? ???? ?? ???? ???? ??? ?? ?????????? ????? ??? ???? ? ??? ?? ????? ?? ??? ??? ??? ????? ?? ???? ?????????? ?????? ???????????????? ??? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ???? ????? ??? ??? ??? ?? ????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ????? ????? ???? ???? ?????? ??????? ?? ?? ?? ????? ???? ???? ???? ??????? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ???? ????? ??? ????? ?? ???? ???? ????? ??? ???? ???? ????? ??? ????? ?? ??? ???? ???????? ???? ????? ?? ?????? ???? ?????? ????? ?? ??? ?????? ????? ????? ???? ???? ????? ???? ?????? ???????? ??? ????? ???????? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ?? ???? ??? ? ?????? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ??? ????? ????? ?? ??????????? ???? ?? ??? ??? ??????? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ???? ?? ??? ????? ??? ??????? ???? ????? ???? ???? ???? ??????? ?? ??? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ????? ?????? ???? ?? ?? ??? ???? ?? ??????? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ??? ????? ???? ?? ????? ???? ?? ???
 

ahsanuck

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Soon Pakistani Nation will stand behind Tahir ul Qadri against Corrupt Political Mafia: Hassan Nisar

Tahir ul qadri is not asking for vote...he is giving awareness to recognize corrupt & monopolistic electoral system and stand against this corrupt system to bring true democracy where rights of people could be fully observed ..., I wish for Imran khan but in this corrupt , monoplositic electoral system no body can result positively....now or then every one will reach to reality.."Dr.Tahir-ul-Qadri
آئندہ نسلوں کو بدلنے، قومی و آئینی اداروں اور حقیقی جمہوریت کو بچانے کی خواہش اور حقیقی تبدیلی کے لیے اس استحصالی نظام انتخاب کو سمندر برد کر دینا ہی سب ملک و قوم کے مفاد میں ہے۔
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My vote for imran sorry tahir you dont have chance .
 
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anaskhan

Citizen
Re: Dr.Tahir ul Qadri referred in International Research Papers...!

@ A. Chaudry If you can prove that the dream was true till then i have a authority to consider it fake; now dont ask this question that its about faith and trust as we do on ALLAH without seen.
 

anaskhan

Citizen
Re: Dr.Tahir ul Qadri referred in International Research Papers...!

I do agree on your comments to an extent yes there are thousand of videos but it doesn't satisfy me because they way tahir express the dream and showed and added mirch masla to the words and showed materialism was very loud and clear to me; and yes i also agree on this that we should abuse any one, nor i did and i dont want any one to do so...:jazak:
 

anaskhan

Citizen
Re: Dr.Tahir ul Qadri referred in International Research Papers...!

Thanks for updating [MENTION=29868]ahsanuck[/MENTION] as you mentioned in you post i have right to agree or dis agree and i dis agree and all have the same right.

Nothing personal :jazak:
 

ahsanuck

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Dr.Tahir ul Qadri referred in International Research Papers...!

Anaskhan, with due apologize, you have right to agree or disagree with viewpoint or person but have no right to claim such thing fake or untrue that is "True" unless you could prove...if a person telling a dream is swearing to Allah for truthfulness of his dream that is enough...But, on what ground or authority you are claiming with such a confident that Tahir ul Qadri's dream is FAKE???? Are you trying to become Alimighty Allah because only Allah knows well that wether dreams told by Tahir ul Qadri is true or not, ....agreeing or disagreeing on viewpoint of addressed material & its interpretation is one thing and declaring something "FAKE" or True is otherthing different..dont try to make yourself and others confuse...
Does the dreams have any importance in Islam?
1. Good Dreams are part of Prophetism:Allahs Apostle said, A good Dream (that comes true) of a righteous man is one of forty-six parts of prophetism. (Bukhari Vol. 9, Book 87, No. 112)The Prophet said, A true good Dream is from Allah, and a bad Dream is from Satan. (Bukhari Vol. 9, Book 87, No. 113)I heard Allahs Apostle saying, Nothing is left of the prophetism except Al-Mubashshirat. They asked, What are Al-Mubashshirat? He replied, The true good dreams (that conveys glad tidings). (Bukhari Vol. 9, Book 87, No. 119)
2. Seeing the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) in dreams:The Prophet said, Whoever has seen me in a Dream, then no doubt, he has seen me, for Satan cannot imitate my shape. (Bukhari Vol. 9, Book 87, No. 123)
The Prophet said, Whoever sees me (in a Dream) then he indeed has seen the truth. (Bukhari Vol. 9, Book 87, No. 125)
The Prophet said, Who ever sees me (in a Dream) then he indeed has seen the truth, as Satan cannot appear in my shape. (Bukhari Vol. 9, Book 87, No. 126)Is mentioning dreams a bad thing?1. Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) mentioned his dreams:The Prophet said, while I was sleeping last night, the keys of the treasures of the earth were brought to me till they were put in my hand. (Bukhari Vol. 9, Book 87, No. 127)
Allahs Apostle said, I saw myself (in a Dream) near the Kaba last night, and I saw a man with whitish red complexion I asked, Who is this man? Somebody replied, (He is) Messiah, son of Mary. (Bukhari Vol. 9, Book 87, No. 128)
Allahs Apostle said, Some of my followers were presented before me in my Dream as fighters in Allahs Cause, sailing in the middle of the seas like kings on the thrones or like kings sitting on their thrones. (Bukhari Vol. 9, Book 87, No. 130)Above 3 Ahadith show that Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) used to describe his dreams, or in other words, narrating ones dreams is the Sunnah of the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم).
2. Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) asked Sahaba to mention their dreams:Allahs Apostle very often used to ask his companions, Did anyone of you see a Dream? So dreams would be narrated to him by those whom Allah wished to tell. (Bukhari Vol. 9, Book 87, No. 171)

Above Hadith (alongwith other similar ones) show that the Prophet (
صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) used to encourage Sahaba to narrate their dreams.
3. Sahaba used to mention their dreams:
Narated By Ibn Umar: Men from the companions of Allahs Apostle used to see dreams during the lifetime of Allahs Apostle and they used to narrate those dreams to Allahs Apostle. Allahs Apostle would interpret them as Allah wished. (Bukhari Vol. 9, Book 87, No. 155)Narated By Ibn Umar: I was a young unmarried man during the lifetime of the Prophet. I used to sleep in the mosque. Anyone who had a Dream, would narrate it to the Prophet. (Bukhari Vol. 9, Book 87, No. 156)

Narated By Abu Salama:

I used to see a Dream which would make me sick till I heard Abu Qatada saying, I too, used to see a Dream which would make me sick (Bukhari Vol. 9, Book 87, No. 168)First 2 Ahadith show that narrating a Dream to the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) was a common practice of Sahaba. The third Hadith shows that Sahaba used to narrate their dreams to each other.

Narrations of Dreams from Various Schools of Thought:
1. Elders through the ages:
Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jillani (رحمت اللہ علیھ) has mentioned his dreams in Bahja tul Asrar which is an account of whatever he used to describe in his sittings (in front of thousands of people).Hazrat Ali Hajvari (رحمت اللہ علیھ) has mentioned his dreams in his famous book Kashaf ul Mahjoob.

Imam Shairani, in his book Tabaqat writes that Imam Jilal ud Din Syuoti saw the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) 70 times not in his Dream but while he was awake. This shows that Imam Jilal ud Din Syuoti mentioned about his ziyara and hence others recorded this in the books.Shah Wali Ullah has written a full-fledged book (namely Ad dur us Samin Fi Mubasharat un Nabi ul Ameen) in which he has gathered 40 dreams seen by him or his teachers.
And there is a long list of elders who not only described their dreams, but they also recorded them in books.2. Ahl-e-Hadith / Wahabi school of thought:

Ibn-e-Qayam
, an Imam acknowledged by Ahl-e-Hadith / Wahabi people, has recorded numerous dreams in his book Kitab
ur Ruh
.
3. Deobandi school of thought:
Most of the objections against Dr. Tahir ul Qadris dreams were raised by a Deobandi based Islamic Jamaat. Ironically, the Deobandi school of thought is much ahead of all others in describing their dreams. Mubasharat Dar ul Uloom Deoband is a collection of those dreams which people saw about this Dar ul Uloom. Ashraf Ali Thanvi has recorded hundreds of dreams of various people in his book Hakayat ul Owliya. Other Deobandi books which are filled with the descriptions of dreams include Imdad ul Mushtaq by Ashraf Ali Thanvi, Tazkira tur Rasheed by Ashiq Ali Mirathi, Tazkira Fazl ur Rehman by Abu ul Hasan Nadvi, and Asdaq ur Roya by Ashraf Ali Thanvi.4. Tablighi Jamaat:Molana Muhammad Zikriya (the founder of Tablighi Jamaat) has himself recorded his numerous dreams in the book Aap Beeti. 40 of his dreams have been collected in another book Mahboob ul Aaraifin. More dreams related to Tablighi Jamaat are collected in Bahja tul Qaloob

Dreams are subject to interpretation
Dreams are subject to interpretation, this is proven from Quran. Hazrat Yaqoob (علیہ السلام) says to Hazrat Yusaf (علیہ السلام): Thus will your Lord choose you and teach you the interpretation of dreams (Yusuf 12:6) Hazrat Yusuf (AS) acknowledged it by saying My Lord, You have given me the kingdom and taught me the meaning of dreams. (Yusuf 12:101)This sura alone has several examples where the interpretation of a Dream is different from the Dream itself. E.g. the stars in Hazrat Yusuf (علیہ السلام)s Dream (in verse 12:4) actually meant his brothers. Similarly when the King dreamt that seven lean cows were eating seven fat ones and that there were seven green ears of corn and seven dry ones (Yusuf 12:43), the interpretation given by Hazrat Yusuf (علیہ السلام) was: Cultivate your lands for seven years as usual and preserve the produce with its ears each year except the little amount that you will consume. After this will ensue seven years of famine in which all the grain that you have stored will be consumed except a small quantity. Then there will be a year with plenty of rain and people will have sufficient milk and other produce. (Yusuf 12:47)The above discussion proves that dreams are subject to interpretation (تعبیر) and should not be taken in their literal meanings.
Interpretations of dreams given by the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم)Example 1: Milk means knowledge
Narrated Ibn Umar: I heard Allahs Apostle saying, While I was sleeping, I was given a bowl full of milk (in a Dream), and I drank of it to my fill until I noticed its wetness coming out of my nails, and then I gave the rest of it to Umar. They (the people) asked, What have you interpreted (about the Dream)? O Allahs Apostle? He said, (It is Religious) knowledge. (Bukhari Vol. 87, Book 9 No. 134)

Example 2: Size of shirt means strength in religion
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: Allahs Apostle said, While I was sleeping, some people were displayed before me (in a Dream). They were wearing shirts, some of which were merely covering their breasts, and some a bit longer. Then there passed before me, Umar bin Al-Khattab wearing a shirt he was dragging it (on the ground behind him.) They (the people) asked, What have you interpreted (about the Dream) O Allahs Apostle? He said, The Religion. (Bukhari Vol. 9, Book 87, No. 136)
Example 3: Cutting a part of the body means birth of a grand child
Hazrat Um e Fazal (رضی اللہ عنہا), the wife of Hazrat Abbas (رضی اللہ عنہ) saw in a Dream that a part from the body of the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) has cut, and dropped in her lap. She got worried. But the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) said that its interpretation is good. A grand child of mine would be born which would play in your lap. So Hazrat Imam Hussain (علیہ السلام) was born. (Mishqat Sharif)
Example 4: Broken roof means return of husband
A woman asked from the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم): I have seen the roof of my house broken. He replied that her husband, whom was on a far off travel, would return. (Ahlam ul Anbiya wa Sulaha)
Comments so far:
The above Ahadith show that a Dream is subject to interpretation and it should not be taken in its literal meaning. So in the above Ahadith milk is interpreted as knowledge, size of shirt is interpreted as strength in religion, cutting a part of the body is interpreted as the birth of a grand child, and breaking of roof is interpreted as return of husband.
Strange interpretations related to the ziyara of the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم)Ibn-e-Sireen (رحمت اللہ علیھ) is a famous Tabaee and is considered among the imams of interpretation of dreams. His famous book, Tabeer ur Roya (i.e. interpretation of dreams) enlists the interpretations to thousands of dreams, some of which (related to the ziyara of the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) are given here:
Ibn e Sireen (رحمت اللہ علیھ), the imam of interpretation, says:1. If someone sees that he is digging or scraching the grave of the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم), it means that he would revive a Sunnah.2. If someone sees that he is drinking the blood of the Prophet (
صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم), it means that he would be martyred in Jihad.3. If someone sees that the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) has died at a place, it means that Sunnah would be eliminated from that place.One can see that ziyara of the Prophet ( صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) in Dream can be interpreted in various ways. Some times the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) represents his Sunnah, sometimes Islamic teachings, sometimes the Muslim Ummah and sometimes other related things.Dream of Imam BukhariImam Bukhari saw that he is removing flies from the body of the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم). An expert told him that flies represent fabricated Ahadith and he would remove / distinguish them from the authentic ones.
Dream of Imam Abu Hanifa
Imam Abu Hanifa saw that he was picking the bones of the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) from his grave and he was giving preference to some bones over other bones. He became very puzzled at seeing this (as according to Ahadith earth cannot eat the body of the prophets). Ibn e Sireen told him that the Dream is good. He said that he (i.e. Imam Abu Hanifa) would carefully study the narrations of the Sunnah of the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) and would pick the most authentic ones (to compile Fiqh).
Interpretation of Dr Tahir ul Qadris Dreams:
As we have seen, ziyara of the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) can be interpreted in various ways. Some times coming of the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) in dreams represents his Sunnah, sometimes Islamic teachings, sometimes the Muslim Ummah and sometimes other related things. Thats why death of the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) in Dream was interpreted as removal of his Sunnah, and flies trying to sit on his body were interpreted as false narrations attributed to him.Similarly, Dr Tahir ul Qadris dreams also require interpretation. So this is what he himself interpreted about them:
Note: The wording is mine, summarizing Dr. Tahir ul Qadris wording:
Dream: The Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) asked me to make an Islamic center (Minhaj-ul-Quran) and promised me that he would come there (in that center).
Interpretation: Prophet (
صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم)s faiz would be included in that center.Dream : The Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) was going to leave this country.
Interpretation: Islamic way of life is going away from our society. Dream: The Prophet (
صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) asked me to make arrangements of his stay.
Interpretation: The Prophet (
صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) wanted me to start a struggle for the revival of Islam.Dream : The Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) asked me to make arrangements of travel including the ticket of the journey.
Interpretation: Ticket and other arrangements of travel are sign of excessive traveling required for the preaching of Islam.


@ A. Chaudry If you can prove that the dream was true till then i have a authority to consider it fake; now dont ask this question that its about faith and trust as we do on ALLAH without seen.
 

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محترمی اے چوہدری صاحب اس میں کوئی شک نہیں کہ قادری صاحب نے اپنے دینی سفر کا آغازاحادیث صحیحہ اور قرآن و سنت کی بنیاد پر کیا تھا مگر افسوس کہ شہرت اورمقبولیت کیساتھ آپکےافکاروخیالات اور حلیہ شریف میں تبدیلی آتی گئی۔ زبانی جمع خرچ اور فن تقریر میں طول آتا گیا اور داڑھی چھوٹی ہوتی گئی۔ ماہانہ بنیادوں پر آپ نے حلئیے بدلے ہیں۔ آپکی قوالیوں اور سالگرہ پر بجنے والا میوزک اور سنگیت صد فیصد گرجا گھروں میں بجنے والے میوزک اور سنگیت کی نقل ہوتا ہے۔اوراب بادی النظر سے دیکھنے پرآپ مسلمان مولوی کم اور عیسائی پادری زیادہ لگتے ہیں۔ قادری صاحب بحیثیت سیاستدان ایک ناکام سیاستدان ہیں۔ بحیثیت ایک عالم دین فرقہ وارانہ نظریات کے حامل ہیں ۔ بحیثیت ایک مذہبی اسکالر اور ایک مذہبی ادارے کے ایڈمنسٹریٹر ہونے کے کئی ایک غیرشرعی اورغیراسلامی رسومات کے حامل ہیں۔ بریلوی قادری ہونے کی حیثیت سےاپنے فرقہ کی غیر معتبر اور متنازعہ ترین شخصیت ہیں۔ آپکی دینی تصنیفات پر جید بریلوی علماء کے تحفظات معروف ومعلوم ہیں۔ آپ یا حسن نثار کن بنیادوں پر سمجھتے ہیں کہ قوم قادری صاحب کے پیچھے کھڑی ہو گی۔


You are most welcome to stay in your narrow minded narrow world of propaganda. You are so jealous from Dr Tahir ul Qadri that all I can do is pray for you that may Allah bring your nafs out of this condition. Look at yourself first, what is your contribution in the society? opening mouth for others is very easy. If you don't understand, sit tight and watch what happens in November.
 

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