Easier to make Muslims weak / Weak Muslim woman destroys the family.

samisam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
اور حافظ اور جرنیل مسلمان پاکستانی عورتوں پر جو ظلم زیادتی حرام زدگی اور جنگی جرائم کر رہے ہیں اس ایک ایک ظلم زیادتی کا حساب اللہ تو لے گاہی ان کی اولاد عورتوں بچوں لڑکیوں پوتیوں نواسیوں سے۔ لیکن انشا اللہ عوام بھی بدلہ لے گی جب بھی اللہ نے موقعہ دیا
 

Termitenator

Senator (1k+ posts)
اور حافظ اور جرنیل مسلمان پاکستانی عورتوں پر جو ظلم زیادتی حرام زدگی اور جنگی جرائم کر رہے ہیں اس ایک ایک ظلم زیادتی کا حساب اللہ تو لے گاہی ان کی اولاد عورتوں بچوں لڑکیوں پوتیوں نواسیوں سے۔ لیکن انشا اللہ عوام بھی بدلہ لے گی جب بھی اللہ نے موقعہ دیا


as I always say, what a dumb, idiot and stupid blind ignorant cult !
 

Zainsha

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
اور حافظ اور جرنیل مسلمان پاکستانی عورتوں پر جو ظلم زیادتی حرام زدگی اور جنگی جرائم کر رہے ہیں اس ایک ایک ظلم زیادتی کا حساب اللہ تو لے گاہی ان کی اولاد عورتوں بچوں لڑکیوں پوتیوں نواسیوں سے۔ لیکن انشا اللہ عوام بھی بدلہ لے گی جب بھی اللہ نے موقعہ دیا

حرامی ظلم تو کر ہی رہے ہیں

اور ایک کرپٹ گینگ کے سرغنہ گنجے حرامی کو دوبارہ مُلک پر مسلط کر رہے ہیں۔۔
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Someone rightfully said that a born Muslim is not a Muslim.
A Muslim is someone who fully submits to Allah through his book, the Quran, rather than through writings and traditions created by men.
 

NasNY

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Someone rightfully said that a born Muslim is not a Muslim.
A Muslim is someone who fully submits to Allah through his book, the Quran, rather than through writings and traditions created by men.
Someone? can you add a name and qualifications ?

someone also told me that don't follow the Hadith, but when asked for his reasoning he linked a you tube video of a British Muslim Faker nutcase that was arrested for Extreme porn. and found to be working undercover for british Intelligence.

You know who i am Talking about?
 

Rambler

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Someone rightfully said that a born Muslim is not a Muslim.
A Muslim is someone who fully submits to Allah through his book, the Quran, rather than through writings and traditions created by men.

And there is ease and convenience in your Islam:
- No need to pray five times. Just do what you like.
- No need to go all the way to Saudi for Hajj.
- No set Zakat. Just pay what you like.
- Fast according to your wishes.
- Just read Quran and if you do not understand anything, bang your head against the wall

You are a genius man !
 

fnaeem

Senator (1k+ posts)
Wake up Pak I respect your political opinions and at times feel you, Citizen X and I could be kindred souls. However I am not, and inshaAllah will never be a hadith-rejector.

My question is quite simple. Quran was not revealed on tablets from heaven like the 10-commandments given to Moses (as we are told). It was and is a recited/oral revelation. Although the divine command is there for protection of revelation (hadith is also considered unrecited revelation), but the agency is human.

Those humans are the Sahaba primarily. If they fell to their own desires/pressures and corrupted the hadith, how come were they able to resist their desires/pressures to tamper the Quran.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
My question is quite simple. Quran was not revealed on tablets from heaven like the 10-commandments given to Moses (as we are told). It was and is a recited/oral revelation. Although the divine command is there for protection of revelation (hadith is also considered unrecited revelation), but the agency is human.
Yeah you are forgetting one HUGE THING. That is the Prophet. The Quran was completed during his lifetime, went over it, he sanctioned and approved during his own lifetime. While at the same time Prophet and the Khulafa forbade writing of hadith.
hadith is also considered unrecited revelation
Only by fools
Those humans are the Sahaba primarily. If they fell to their own desires/pressures and corrupted the hadith, how come were they able to resist their desires/pressures to tamper the Quran.
Quran was memorized by 1000s if not 10s of 1000s of people there were copies of it. Just like today, if anyone tried to alter it, won't be too long before the corruption would be spotted.
However I am not, and inshaAllah will never be a hadith-rejector.
Quran 45:6 These are God's revelations that We recite to you with truth, so in which hadith other than Allah's will they believe in.

You believe in the hadith, then you are rejecting the Quran. Don't get angry or emotional I'm not saying it, these are verified undeniable Allah's words.
 

Rambler

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Wake up Pak I respect your political opinions and at times feel you, Citizen X and I could be kindred souls. However I am not, and inshaAllah will never be a hadith-rejector.

My question is quite simple. Quran was not revealed on tablets from heaven like the 10-commandments given to Moses (as we are told). It was and is a recited/oral revelation. Although the divine command is there for protection of revelation (hadith is also considered unrecited revelation), but the agency is human.

Those humans are the Sahaba primarily. If they fell to their own desires/pressures and corrupted the hadith, how come were they able to resist their desires/pressures to tamper the Quran.

Actually they have a point - Acquiring knowledge is difficult. You have to do a lot of research and sift through information. Hadith compilers spent their whole life do that and trying to preserve and pass on the invaluable teachings of The Prophet (saw) which is infact an exegesis of the Quran. But who wants to do it when an easier option is available. Just do whatever you like in the ibadat, read the Quran, take whatever you can and if you do not understand anything do not look elsewhere for explanation, just keep reading for barakah. Simple !!!
 

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