Ismaili - Agha Khan i - A cult or a sect

[Pakola Khi]

Brother

You have concluded what is the need of the hour

بھائی اگر آپ نے جو لکھا ہے اگر وہ صحیح ہے تو پھر یہ ایک بہت ہے خطرناک بات ہے
ساری قوم سو رہی ہے اور خوفناک بلا منہ کھولے پوری مسلم قوم کو نگلنے کے لیے تیار ہے
کسی بھی قوم کو اس کے راستے سے ہٹانے کے لیے اس کی آنے والی نسلوں کو بھٹکنا ایک بہت ہر زوداور طریقہ ہے
تصور کریں ، ہماری آئندہ نسل اپنے آباؤ اجداد کی فکر، اقدار ، سوچ ، تمدن ، عقاید اور معاشرے کو یکدم بھلا کر ایک نئے اور غیر نظریے کو اپنانے چلی ہے
ہماری آئندہ نسل کو دین سے بھی بے بہرہ کر دیا جا رہا ہے
کیا یہ سب جانتے ہوے بھی اسے نظر انداز کرنا ہمارے لیے کتنے بڑے عذاب کا شاخسانہ ہوگا
کیا ہم الله کے سامنے اپنے اس رویہ کے لیے جواب دہ نہیں ہونگے
کیا ہم اپنی نسل کے بھٹکنے کے زمیدار نہیں ہونگے

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بھائی اگر آپ نے جو لکھا ہے اگر وہ صحیح ہے تو پھر یہ ایک بہت ہے خطرناک بات ہے
ساری قوم سو رہی ہے اور خوفناک بلا منہ کھولے پوری مسلم قوم کو نگلنے کے لیے تیار ہے
کسی بھی قوم کو اس کے راستے سے ہٹانے کے لیے اس کی آنے والی نسلوں کو بھٹکنا ایک بہت ہر زوداور طریقہ ہے
تصور کریں ، ہماری آئندہ نسل اپنے آباؤ اجداد کی فکر، اقدار ، سوچ ، تمدن ، عقاید اور معاشرے کو یکدم بھلا کر ایک نئے اور غیر نظریے کو اپنانے چلی ہے
ہماری آئندہ نسل کو دین سے بھی بے بہرہ کر دیا جا رہا ہے
کیا یہ سب جانتے ہوے بھی اسے نظر انداز کرنا ہمارے لیے کتنے بڑے عذاب کا شاخسانہ ہوگا
کیا ہم الله کے سامنے اپنے اس رویہ کے لیے جواب دہ نہیں ہونگے
کیا ہم اپنی نسل کے بھٹکنے کے زمیدار نہیں ہونگے

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On the personal instructions from SEHBA MUSHARAF ,wife of general musharaf Agha khan foundation was given the responsibilities to bring changes in the school syllabus .The first thing the did was of taking out HAZRAT KHADIJA name out and replacing it with BILQEES BANO as muslim model woman.sura Al-qaida is no more there in our school syllabus nor is the word "JIHAD FI SABILELLAH" found anymore in the school books.

 

[aftab818]

I dont want to get into useless discussion with you, as what you have posted says it all about whom i am dealing with but just take my words, present islam is growing fast due to its population demographicallly but look at the quality of our Islam ??? is it real Islam?am sure with such Islam we cant cross pul-e-sirat.

Calling a spade a spade is not spreading hate. By the way Islam is .faster day by day.

 

[Believer12]

Wake up Believer. Not all Pakis in Europe are dishwashers. There is a large portion of Pakistani scholars and professionals who are studying and working abroad. They are the by product of Pakistani education

The task of Agha Khan and others like OUP is to alter the syllabus at primary level to produce slaves who would pose no threat to foreign mental domination. A breed of brown Sahib's

We should not leave our education at the hands of kuffar, instead we should focus our efforts and resources to revive the generation we are loosing to apathy of current system

Look at your hypacracy and try to change your self ,in this post you are trying to say two different things. on one hand you are saying that lot of pakistani scholars and professionals who are studying and working abroad. thats not true high qualified people from Pakistan are few. even they have to study with same degree programmes wich they already have got from Pakistan.
on the other hand you are saying we should not leave our education at the hands of kufar.this is called munafiqat which unfortunately taught by our mullahs in paksitan.
you called them pakis and we mind it because we are Pakistanis.Paki is a word like an abusement in UK and you are using it for us.last point for those who are dish washing and earning a halal money are much better than haramkhors like you.they are many and i respect them a lot.i am sure you aren not living in Pakistan.so just leave our people alone do something good for them.

 

[Believer12]

You have presented a very stupid argument in favour of Agha Khanis. We cannot accept any group as Islamic if they just label themselves as Muslims. If we go by your analogy then Qadiyanis should be declared Muslims as they call themselves Muslims but that is not the case.

Agha Khani fitna is worse then Qadiyaniat as Mirza called himself a prophet but Agha Khan attributes the sifat of Allah Taa'ala to himself

وھ اپنے فرقے کے اندر جو بھی عقائد رکھیں تمکو پھر بھی یہ حق حاصل نھیں ھے کے انکو غیر مسلم کھو اور پھر تم تو مجھے خود منافق لگ رھے ھو کیونکہ تم پاکستان میں نھیں ھو اور وھاں کا سلیبس بنانے کے ٹھیکیدار بننے کا تمھیں بھت شوق ھے۔ آغا خان بورڈ کے تحت پڑھنے والے مطمئن ھیں اور انکا معیار بھی عام ڈگری ھولڈرز سے اونچا ھے تو پھر تمھیں کیا اعتراض ھے۔ تم ماں باپ کو روک نھیں سکتے کے وھ اپنے بچوں کو اچھی اور معیاری تعلیم نہ دلوائیں اگر ایسا کرو گے تو ماوں کے جوتے کھاو گے۔

 

[sumisrar]

So Hindu is correct by kicking muslims *** in india

Budh's are correct in Burma

Our Molvies want same bloodshed in Pakistan

oohh bhai. let them practice their religion, its nothing to do with you

Its our Pakistan, not personal to someone's abba g

Jiss saley ko ghar main koi nahi sunta woh , katal ke fatwey dena shuroo ker deta hey

 

[Lawangeen]

thanks for sharing this information, and be ready to be called munafiq, dehshatgard, in some occasion kafir and other abuses... but it is good to know all this and very few will take it as an information...

 

[A.G.Uddin]

[MENTION=27923]Believer12[/MENTION] !

Yaar idhar sab kunwein ke maindak hain.They consider themselves and their fraud Mullahs caretakers and exclusive scholars of Islam.Haven't you seen how they continue to spread venom,hatred and propaganda against Shia Muslims quite lately? aur ab yeh Ismailis aur Bohris ke khilaf zehar ugalne ki tayyari mein hain.I have shown the link to Amman Message where scholars from all over the world signed the grand declaration lekin dheet ke dheet rahe.Now if they deny and refuse then it clearly means that Pakistan ke ilawa dunya bhar mein Muslims hain he nahi.

 

[Pakola Khi]

Well I am already at the receiving end but content on writing the truth for my comrades.

thanks for sharing this information, and be ready to be called munafiq, dehshatgard, in some occasion kafir and other abuses... but it is good to know all this and very few will take it as an information...

 

[Pakola Khi]

Believe 12

Agha Khanis can invent a new religion or make further colourful additions to their existing beliefs, I don't care but I just want my people to be aware that these guys are not Muslims and cannot be trusted within our ranks.

Agha Khan board is corrupting school education , pls research before jumping the gun i.e. if you are not an Agha Khani. Giving exams thru Agha Khan board at the moment does not give an edge to a student so you are wrong agan.

What I intend to highlight is to be aware and nip this fitna in the bud.

Finally did the angels inform you about my location??

وھ اپنے فرقے کے اندر جو بھی عقائد رکھیں تمکو پھر بھی یہ حق حاصل نھیں ھے کے انکو غیر مسلم کھو اور پھر تم تو مجھے خود منافق لگ رھے ھو کیونکہ تم پاکستان میں نھیں ھو اور وھاں کا سلیبس بنانے کے ٹھیکیدار بننے کا تمھیں بھت شوق ھے۔ آغا خان بورڈ کے تحت پڑھنے والے مطمئن ھیں اور انکا معیار بھی عام ڈگری ھولڈرز سے اونچا ھے تو پھر تمھیں کیا اعتراض ھے۔ تم ماں باپ کو روک نھیں سکتے کے وھ اپنے بچوں کو اچھی اور معیاری تعلیم نہ دلوائیں اگر ایسا کرو گے تو ماوں کے جوتے کھاو گے۔

 

[Pakola Khi]

Believe 12

There is no contradiction in my post, read again. If you are angry at my post why don't you go back and refute the points I have stated about Agha Khan and his actions against Islam and Muslims.

I challenge you to at least prove that Agha Khan is a pious person let alone an Imam.

Look at your hypacracy and try to change your self ,in this post you are trying to say two different things. on one hand you are saying that lot of pakistani scholars and professionals who are studying and working abroad. thats not true high qualified people from Pakistan are few. even they have to study with same degree programmes wich they already have got from Pakistan.
on the other hand you are saying we should not leave our education at the hands of kufar.this is called munafiqat which unfortunately taught by our mullahs in paksitan.
you called them pakis and we mind it because we are Pakistanis.Paki is a word like an abusement in UK and you are using it for us.last point for those who are dish washing and earning a halal money are much better than haramkhors like you.they are many and i respect them a lot.i am sure you aren not living in Pakistan.so just leave our people alone do something good for them.

 

[prolife]

Pakola khi, You deserve to be arrested under blasphmy law and hate speech. you have no right to call those who do not follow your religious belief a cult or a fraud. You follow what you think is right and let others follow what they think is right. Why don't you mind your f...n business. No religious belief or religious group own this world nor anyone Pakistan.

 

[Believer12]

Believe 12

Agha Khanis can invent a new religion or make further colourful additions to their existing beliefs, I don't care but I just want my people to be aware that these guys are not Muslims and cannot be trusted within our ranks.

Agha Khan board is corrupting school education , pls research before jumping the gun i.e. if you are not an Agha Khani. Giving exams thru Agha Khan board at the moment does not give an edge to a student so you are wrong agan.

What I intend to highlight is to be aware and nip this fitna in the bud.

Finally did the angels inform you about my location??

you are sitting abroad that is true you can deny it if i am wrong. you wrote My people,,,no one can say my people,you are nothing.

 

[Pakola Khi]

You are funny

you are sitting abroad that is true you can deny it if i am wrong. you wrote My people,,,no one can say my people,you are nothing.

 

[Pakola Khi]

Blasphemy law should be applied on the Agha Khan who declares himself the reflection of God on earth and declares that he has the power to answer the duas of his followers all over the world. In spite of all this crap he declares himself an Imam and his followers only true Muslims

Pakola khi, You deserve to be arrested under blasphmy law and hate speech. you have no right to call those who do not follow your religious belief a cult or a fraud. You follow what you think is right and let others follow what they think is right. Why don't you mind your f...n business. No religious belief or religious group own this world nor anyone Pakistan.

 

[Believer12]

Believe 12

There is no contradiction in my post, read again. If you are angry at my post why don't you go back and refute the points I have stated about Agha Khan and his actions against Islam and Muslims.

I challenge you to at least prove that Agha Khan is a pious person let alone an Imam.

ok ,,,,than read my post where i wrote him a pious person? i am just saying that a biggest sinner is also a muslim til he do not declare himself a non muslim.my point is not which is good muslim but point is that no one have right to attack on others faith coz this trend have created devastated situation in Pakistan. you can criticize his policies not faith.

 

[SAKISAKI]

Yar kucj khuda ka khoof kro.... 1stly you said "Shiaa Religon" it is a sect of muslims not a different religon... 2ndly for your kind information.. get the history of Sauuds of KSA... who played in the hand of british in 1st world war to end the Turkish Khilafaa and lead a new sect which was funded by british.. Read the story of "Lawrence of Arabia"...
All your information is actually disinformation... better come with facts and we dont want any hate messages within Muslim.

 

[Pakola Khi]

First things first Sakiskai. Muslms must realise the fitnah caused by a man who claims to be god a.k.a Agha Khan and do not mistake Agha Khan and his followers as Muslims.

Ismailis are free to follow their religion, visit their temples (Jamaat Khana) and worship as per the revelations of Agha Khan but Muslims must beware of their plots against Islam and Pakistan.

Yar kucj khuda ka khoof kro.... 1stly you said "Shiaa Religon" it is a sect of muslims not a different religon... 2ndly for your kind information.. get the history of Sauuds of KSA... who played in the hand of british in 1st world war to end the Turkish Khilafaa and lead a new sect which was funded by british.. Read the story of "Lawrence of Arabia"...
All your information is actually disinformation... better come with facts and we dont want any hate messages within Muslim.

 

[Babatank]

Special thanks goes to the thread starter! You have solved all problems in Pakistan by exposing Agha Khans Clan...(clap) (<--Attention Irony)
You ignorant people have nothing to do but to create divisions among the society :angry_smile:

 

[1234567]

MAY BE HE IS THE ONLY MUSLIM, DEAR HIS INTENTIONS WERE GOOD. HE JUST WANTED TO POINTOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MUSLIMS AND NON MUSLIMS. DON'T TAKE HIM WRONG. AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT WORK IN PAKISTAN BY AGAHA KHAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT BUT MUSLIMS OF PAKISTAN DIDN'T BEGGED FOR THAT. HE DID IT FOR WHATEVER THE REASONS WERE BUT ONE THING IS CONFIRM THAT HIS TEACHING ARE NOT ACOORDING TO QURAN AND SUNNAH. :alhamd: