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ANALYSIS : Ghamidi, scripture and hermeneutics Naqib Hamid | July 17, 2012
In an age of emotional polemics and empty sermons in the name of religion, Ghamidi is an inspiring figure who seeks to educate his audience in a non-dogmatic Islam, which is rooted in the Quran
The month of Ramazan is approaching. It is the month in which the revelation of the Quran began on the Holy Prophet (PBUH). It is also the month when many Muslims around the world reconnect, so to speak, to religion and spirituality and try to ponder the meaning of their Holy Scripture. This article seeks to explain the exegetical approach to the Muslim Scripture adopted by the Quranic scholar, Javed Ahmad Ghamidi.
In contrast to the exegetical approach, which views the Quran as being an atomistic collection of verses, i.e. each verse being interpreted alone, Ghamidi is of the view that the Quran is not a shapeless book in which surahs are haphazardly arranged but rather that it possesses deep structural and thematic coherence. And it is this coherence that gives meaning to the verses. In taking such an approach, Ghamidi has followed the principles of Quranic interpretation laid down by what has now come to be known as the Farahi school of Quranic exegesis.
This view to interpret the Quran while taking into account the structural and thematic coherence found in the surahs and verses was adopted in present times as an exegetical principle firstly by Hamiduddin Farahi (18631930), an erudite scholar of religion and a master of the classical Arabic and Hebrew languages. Later, his extraordinary student, Amin Ahsan Islahi (19041997) wrote Tadabbur-i-Quran, a comprehensive Urdu exegesis based on this approach. Islahi was also the mentor of Ghamidi.
Ghamidi believes it is this coherence in the Quran that makes it a document having one definite meaning and, which resolves all differences of interpretation. Therefore this can help overcome the disputes over the meaning of verses held by the various Muslim schools of thought. Thus in interpreting the Quran, Ghamidi gives an overwhelming importance to context. He states, No Quranic verse or hadith should be seen in isolation. Context-free interpretation is the biggest cause of religious problems.
The 114 surahs of the Quran are arranged into seven groups, with each group carrying a central theme, beginning with a surah revealed in Mecca and ending at one or more surahs revealed at Madina. Briefly, these are group one from Surah Fatihah till Surah Maidah; group two from Surah Anam till Surah Tawbah; group three from Surah Yunus till Surah Nur; group four from Surah Furqan till Surah Ahzab; group five from Surah Saba till Surah Hujurat; group six from Surah Qaf till Surah Tahrim and finally, group seven from Surah Mulk till Surah Nas.
According to the coherence theory, the fundamental unit of meaning in the Quran is the surah and not the individual verse as widely believed. The surahs of the Quran are not disconnected but are rather arranged in pairs in each group, with very few exceptions. The first surah, Fatiha, serves as a kind of preamble of the Scripture.
An important overarching theme in Ghamidis hermeneutics is the concept of rasul (messenger) and his indhar (warning) to the people he has been sent to. In contrast to the popular view that the designation of rasul is that of a nabi (prophet), who is bestowed with a revealed Scripture by God, Ghamidi suggests that rasul means a prophet who was sent as a divine court on Earth. People are given punishment by that court right here in the world if they disobey the divine message after the Truth has been made perfectly clear to them after successive stages of warning. These stages include the phases when the rasul performs indhar on his close companions and affiliates and later, to the wider public up to the time that the truth has been communicated with such clarity that no one among its addressees is left with an excuse to deny it. Then lastly comes the phase of migration and acquittal in which a rasul decides the fate of his addressees and implements the judgment of God on them in this very world.
The subject matter of the Quran is Muhammads indhar, says Ghamidi, and in saying so, he makes clear how the Quran when viewed as a narrative of the indhar performed by the Last Prophet of God to Humanity a task achieved in the broad daylight of recorded history can be vividly established as the biggest proof of revealed religion.
This different hermeneutical approach, in turn, has led to occasions where Ghamidis opinion differs considerably from the conventional, traditional opinion, including his views on freedom of religion, Islamic punishments, jihad, relations with non-Muslims, the second coming of Jesus, tasawwuf, democracy, to name only a few. His taking an academic and unemotional approach to sensitive topics like the reform of blasphemy laws in Pakistan has often led to a furore by conventional clerics who are not ready to listen to any different interpretations of religion than those they personally adhere to. Moreover, his unflinching stance on terrorist acts in the name of Islam being completely unlawful has led him to come into confrontation with radical groups across the country. For someone trained in the principle and motto, abide by the truth even if your shadow deserts you, life cannot be easy.
The struggle to pave the way for a different interpretive approach to the scripture, and the associated Muslim life-world, has come at a great expense. In October 2010, the Taliban assassinated Dr Muhammad Faruq Khan, a renowned religious scholar and a disciple of Ghamidi. A psychiatrist by profession, Dr Khan was working towards establishing a programme for reforming suicide bombers and extremists in Swat and bringing them back into the mainstream. Ghamidi himself had to leave Pakistan in 2010 and settle in exile in Malaysia after extremists had made it impossible for him to live in his home country.
Religions get lost as people do, wrote Franz Kafka. In an age of emotional polemics and empty sermons in the name of religion, Ghamidi is an inspiring figure who seeks to educate his audience in a non-dogmatic Islam, which is rooted in the Quran. It practises and authenticates the sayings of the Holy Prophet (PBUH), purifying it of the myths, folktales, legends and rhetoric that now pass in the name of Muslim religion.
The writer teaches Sociology at the University College Lahore (UCL) and can be reached at [email protected]
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2012\07\17\story_17-7-2012_pg3_6
Haquq-ul-ebad...Ghamidi ke Saath - only on Dunya news - after Karachi Azan-e-Mghrib from 1st Ramadan
In an age of emotional polemics and empty sermons in the name of religion, Ghamidi is an inspiring figure who seeks to educate his audience in a non-dogmatic Islam, which is rooted in the Quran
The month of Ramazan is approaching. It is the month in which the revelation of the Quran began on the Holy Prophet (PBUH). It is also the month when many Muslims around the world reconnect, so to speak, to religion and spirituality and try to ponder the meaning of their Holy Scripture. This article seeks to explain the exegetical approach to the Muslim Scripture adopted by the Quranic scholar, Javed Ahmad Ghamidi.
In contrast to the exegetical approach, which views the Quran as being an atomistic collection of verses, i.e. each verse being interpreted alone, Ghamidi is of the view that the Quran is not a shapeless book in which surahs are haphazardly arranged but rather that it possesses deep structural and thematic coherence. And it is this coherence that gives meaning to the verses. In taking such an approach, Ghamidi has followed the principles of Quranic interpretation laid down by what has now come to be known as the Farahi school of Quranic exegesis.
This view to interpret the Quran while taking into account the structural and thematic coherence found in the surahs and verses was adopted in present times as an exegetical principle firstly by Hamiduddin Farahi (18631930), an erudite scholar of religion and a master of the classical Arabic and Hebrew languages. Later, his extraordinary student, Amin Ahsan Islahi (19041997) wrote Tadabbur-i-Quran, a comprehensive Urdu exegesis based on this approach. Islahi was also the mentor of Ghamidi.
Ghamidi believes it is this coherence in the Quran that makes it a document having one definite meaning and, which resolves all differences of interpretation. Therefore this can help overcome the disputes over the meaning of verses held by the various Muslim schools of thought. Thus in interpreting the Quran, Ghamidi gives an overwhelming importance to context. He states, No Quranic verse or hadith should be seen in isolation. Context-free interpretation is the biggest cause of religious problems.
The 114 surahs of the Quran are arranged into seven groups, with each group carrying a central theme, beginning with a surah revealed in Mecca and ending at one or more surahs revealed at Madina. Briefly, these are group one from Surah Fatihah till Surah Maidah; group two from Surah Anam till Surah Tawbah; group three from Surah Yunus till Surah Nur; group four from Surah Furqan till Surah Ahzab; group five from Surah Saba till Surah Hujurat; group six from Surah Qaf till Surah Tahrim and finally, group seven from Surah Mulk till Surah Nas.
According to the coherence theory, the fundamental unit of meaning in the Quran is the surah and not the individual verse as widely believed. The surahs of the Quran are not disconnected but are rather arranged in pairs in each group, with very few exceptions. The first surah, Fatiha, serves as a kind of preamble of the Scripture.
An important overarching theme in Ghamidis hermeneutics is the concept of rasul (messenger) and his indhar (warning) to the people he has been sent to. In contrast to the popular view that the designation of rasul is that of a nabi (prophet), who is bestowed with a revealed Scripture by God, Ghamidi suggests that rasul means a prophet who was sent as a divine court on Earth. People are given punishment by that court right here in the world if they disobey the divine message after the Truth has been made perfectly clear to them after successive stages of warning. These stages include the phases when the rasul performs indhar on his close companions and affiliates and later, to the wider public up to the time that the truth has been communicated with such clarity that no one among its addressees is left with an excuse to deny it. Then lastly comes the phase of migration and acquittal in which a rasul decides the fate of his addressees and implements the judgment of God on them in this very world.
The subject matter of the Quran is Muhammads indhar, says Ghamidi, and in saying so, he makes clear how the Quran when viewed as a narrative of the indhar performed by the Last Prophet of God to Humanity a task achieved in the broad daylight of recorded history can be vividly established as the biggest proof of revealed religion.
This different hermeneutical approach, in turn, has led to occasions where Ghamidis opinion differs considerably from the conventional, traditional opinion, including his views on freedom of religion, Islamic punishments, jihad, relations with non-Muslims, the second coming of Jesus, tasawwuf, democracy, to name only a few. His taking an academic and unemotional approach to sensitive topics like the reform of blasphemy laws in Pakistan has often led to a furore by conventional clerics who are not ready to listen to any different interpretations of religion than those they personally adhere to. Moreover, his unflinching stance on terrorist acts in the name of Islam being completely unlawful has led him to come into confrontation with radical groups across the country. For someone trained in the principle and motto, abide by the truth even if your shadow deserts you, life cannot be easy.
The struggle to pave the way for a different interpretive approach to the scripture, and the associated Muslim life-world, has come at a great expense. In October 2010, the Taliban assassinated Dr Muhammad Faruq Khan, a renowned religious scholar and a disciple of Ghamidi. A psychiatrist by profession, Dr Khan was working towards establishing a programme for reforming suicide bombers and extremists in Swat and bringing them back into the mainstream. Ghamidi himself had to leave Pakistan in 2010 and settle in exile in Malaysia after extremists had made it impossible for him to live in his home country.
Religions get lost as people do, wrote Franz Kafka. In an age of emotional polemics and empty sermons in the name of religion, Ghamidi is an inspiring figure who seeks to educate his audience in a non-dogmatic Islam, which is rooted in the Quran. It practises and authenticates the sayings of the Holy Prophet (PBUH), purifying it of the myths, folktales, legends and rhetoric that now pass in the name of Muslim religion.
The writer teaches Sociology at the University College Lahore (UCL) and can be reached at [email protected]
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2012\07\17\story_17-7-2012_pg3_6
Haquq-ul-ebad...Ghamidi ke Saath - only on Dunya news - after Karachi Azan-e-Mghrib from 1st Ramadan
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paki-muslim
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Re: ANALYSIS : Ghamidi, scripture and hermeneutics Naqib Hamid | July 17, 2012
Rehbar k roop main rehzan.Ghamdi opper se kuch aur, andar se sheetan hai.aur indigo us ka cheela bana hoa hai.
Rehbar k roop main rehzan.Ghamdi opper se kuch aur, andar se sheetan hai.aur indigo us ka cheela bana hoa hai.
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Re: ANALYSIS : Ghamidi, scripture and hermeneutics Naqib Hamid | July 17, 2012
I think allaama farahi was a great scholar of islam because he refused to accept make beliefs none contextual interpretations of the quran. After sir syed he was major contributer of principle about understanding of the quran till iqbal.
But one will see allaama parwez as the one who really makes a great effort to unite all four rules to offer his interpretation of the quran. One can only realise this once one has heard the darse quran lectures that are now available on the following link.
http://www.parwez.tv/free-audio.html
I think allaama farahi was a great scholar of islam because he refused to accept make beliefs none contextual interpretations of the quran. After sir syed he was major contributer of principle about understanding of the quran till iqbal.
But one will see allaama parwez as the one who really makes a great effort to unite all four rules to offer his interpretation of the quran. One can only realise this once one has heard the darse quran lectures that are now available on the following link.
http://www.parwez.tv/free-audio.html
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Dr. Mona Kazim Shah interviewing Javed Ahmed Ghamidi 17-7-2012
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Expulsion from Jamaat-e-Islami...
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Islam vs Scholars opinion...
Militant organizations & Zia ul Haq...
Quetta Hazara killings...
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Expulsion from Jamaat-e-Islami...
Relationship with Syed Abul Ala Maududi...
Opinion on Hudood Ordinance...
Authority of Islamic Ideology Council...
Minority of Islamic Parties...
Blasphemy Laws and Imam Abu Hanifa...
Islam vs Scholars opinion...
Militant organizations & Zia ul Haq...
Quetta Hazara killings...
Your contributions...
Your Exile...
Your Message...
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_pakistan
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Re: Dr. Mona Kazim Shah interviewing Javed Ahmed Ghamidi 17-7-2012
Bhai kuch tou Khuda Ka khof karain,Jo banda Aap logon ko in Mullaon key chungle aur is firqa wariat Ki larai sey niklwana chahta hey ,Jo ye chahta hey key apni Taleem key nizaam ko badlo ,Takey Imaam abu hanifa ,Imam shafi ,Imaam Malik jesey Scholar dubara Peda hoo sakain,Nakey Hum Brelevi ,deobandi,wahabi ,Ahle -tashi Alim peda karain.
Bhai aapko ye molvi aur Army Generals Cia key agent nahin lagain gey ,jo America sey Jihaad key naam per pesa ley ker Hamari nojwaan naslon ko tabah ker rahey hain.
Bhai kuch tou Khuda Ka khof karain,Jo banda Aap logon ko in Mullaon key chungle aur is firqa wariat Ki larai sey niklwana chahta hey ,Jo ye chahta hey key apni Taleem key nizaam ko badlo ,Takey Imaam abu hanifa ,Imam shafi ,Imaam Malik jesey Scholar dubara Peda hoo sakain,Nakey Hum Brelevi ,deobandi,wahabi ,Ahle -tashi Alim peda karain.
Bhai aapko ye molvi aur Army Generals Cia key agent nahin lagain gey ,jo America sey Jihaad key naam per pesa ley ker Hamari nojwaan naslon ko tabah ker rahey hain.
paki-muslim
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Dr. Mona Kazim Shah interviewing Javed Ahmed Ghamidi 17-7-2012
He wants to change real Islam into moderate CIA's Islam.molvio main sarey molvi burey nahi,likin ye jan bojh kar sab ko bura bana kar pervezi fitna phelay raha hai.apni marzi ka Islam tor maror ka paish kar raha hai.
He wants to change real Islam into moderate CIA's Islam.molvio main sarey molvi burey nahi,likin ye jan bojh kar sab ko bura bana kar pervezi fitna phelay raha hai.apni marzi ka Islam tor maror ka paish kar raha hai.
_pakistan
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Dr. Mona Kazim Shah interviewing Javed Ahmed Ghamidi 17-7-2012
bhai mera khiyyal hey aap ney unka biyaan against Pervez nahin suna.
Ager aap waqai kuch janna chahtey hain .tou ye videos zaroor dekh lain.
Bhai Gamdi sahib ney Islam ko kia torna hey, Islam ko tou boht pehley hi kai firqon main tora marora hua hey. aur har firqa apni apni tashree kerta hey. Aur Allah ka shukar hey ,Key hamrey paas abhi Allah ki Kitaab Mehfooz hey. jo hamari hamesha rehnmaai kerti rahey gi.
Bhai Cia ko amen wala islam kabhi pasand nahin aa sakta ,kionkey Islam jis tezi sey dunya main phel raha hey ,wo amen ki waja sey hi tha.
Cia Jihadi aur fisadi molvion ko hi fund kertey hain ,takey ye Musilmaan kabhi aapis main akhate na hoo sakain.aur aapis main larain aur dusro per zabardasti sey islaam dhonsney ki koshih kertey hain. Aur Cia ko dunya main Islam key baarey main image dia ja sakey ,key Islaam Dehshat gardi ka Mazhab hey. Aur wo kafi had tak kamyaab ho rahey hain.
bhai mera khiyyal hey aap ney unka biyaan against Pervez nahin suna.
Ager aap waqai kuch janna chahtey hain .tou ye videos zaroor dekh lain.
Bhai Cia ko amen wala islam kabhi pasand nahin aa sakta ,kionkey Islam jis tezi sey dunya main phel raha hey ,wo amen ki waja sey hi tha.
Cia Jihadi aur fisadi molvion ko hi fund kertey hain ,takey ye Musilmaan kabhi aapis main akhate na hoo sakain.aur aapis main larain aur dusro per zabardasti sey islaam dhonsney ki koshih kertey hain. Aur Cia ko dunya main Islam key baarey main image dia ja sakey ,key Islaam Dehshat gardi ka Mazhab hey. Aur wo kafi had tak kamyaab ho rahey hain.
paki-muslim
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Dr. Mona Kazim Shah interviewing Javed Ahmed Ghamidi 17-7-2012
Ghamdi ney Islam main nai nai batein nikali hain is lye he is CIA Mosaad fitna.
Ghamdi ney Islam main nai nai batein nikali hain is lye he is CIA Mosaad fitna.
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_pakistan
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Re: Dr. Mona Kazim Shah interviewing Javed Ahmed Ghamidi 17-7-2012
Bhai ye bhi tou ho sakta hey ,key bohat saari cheezain ,bidtain islam main raej ho gayi hoon,aur is waja sey jo banda un bidaton key kahalf baat karey,tou wo aapko nai batain lagti hoon.
Bhai ye bhi tou ho sakta hey ,key bohat saari cheezain ,bidtain islam main raej ho gayi hoon,aur is waja sey jo banda un bidaton key kahalf baat karey,tou wo aapko nai batain lagti hoon.
paki-muslim
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Dr. Mona Kazim Shah interviewing Javed Ahmed Ghamidi 17-7-2012
Han phelay jitnay bhi loog thay wo tu musalman hi nahi thay(nauzubillah),ye phela banda hai jo sahi musalman hai(Nauzubillah).Ghamdi jesay shetaan ko tu jootey maarney chaiye.
Han phelay jitnay bhi loog thay wo tu musalman hi nahi thay(nauzubillah),ye phela banda hai jo sahi musalman hai(Nauzubillah).Ghamdi jesay shetaan ko tu jootey maarney chaiye.
_pakistan
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Dr. Mona Kazim Shah interviewing Javed Ahmed Ghamidi 17-7-2012
bhai ye kis ney kaha hey wo musilmaan nahin they ??
Ghamdi sahib ney tou kabhi nahin kaha.
Ye tou deobandi, barelvi,shia ,wahabi hi aik dusrey ko kehteay hain,key ye musilmaan nahin hain.
bhai ye kis ney kaha hey wo musilmaan nahin they ??
Ghamdi sahib ney tou kabhi nahin kaha.
Ye tou deobandi, barelvi,shia ,wahabi hi aik dusrey ko kehteay hain,key ye musilmaan nahin hain.
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