Karbala: Lessons for the Muslim Ummah - MUST!!!

[Raaz]

Mast Bhai , You really collected date by cut and paste , and told us what is data in modern management, Otherwise I was thinking it is big brother of Date.

Thanks for long post of Quranic Ayat, really , It refreshes the Eman.

But my question is still there , please dont mind,I am not that much educated.

That what u have learned the lesson by Hazrat Imam Hussain Shahadat, or what we should learn from it.

Or what we have learned collectively as a muslim nation.

Hope U will not mind, U could tell better, because your knowledge is fresh. , Thanks.

I guess , there is great lessons hidden in it.

 

[Veila Mast]

Mast Bhai , You really collected date by cut and paste , and told us what is data in modern management, Otherwise I was thinking it is big brother of Date.

Thanks for long post of Quranic Ayat, really , It refreshes the Eman.

But my question is still there , please dont mind,I am not that much educated.

That what u have learned the lesson by Hazrat Imam Hussain Shahadat, or what we should learn from it.

Or what we have learned collectively as a muslim nation.

Hope U will not mind, U could tell better, because your knowledge is fresh. , Thanks.

I guess , there is great lessons hidden in it.

Dear Sir,

Please read post no. 8 again, it is loud and clear and I raised some serious questions there.

May I ask YOU if you know reasons why Babadeena didn't respond to my questions and instead BLAMED me to be Rafzi?

Is that how you take the things?

If he can't answer those questions then I would LOVE to hear from you if you can answer those.

Saniha e Karbala is GREAT LESSON for us, it's every second is crucial and worth learning and it really hurts when someone argues PAST is PAST so FORGET about that!!!!!!!!!!

Does Babadeena really knows what happened after this incident?

Didn't Muslims respond to Yazid and stood against him?

How come he can say that NO ONE SUPPORTED IMAM HUSSAIN Razi Allah Tala Anho?

 

[Newt0n]

@Babadeena --- Bro, when i talked about anbiya i was not trying to compare the events of Quran from the events of normal history books.... what i related to was the fact tht almost none of the ppl seem to learn from the stories of the book on which no one has any doubt.... but tht doesnt means tht stories are useless... they are their for a reason....

for Namaz!! :) yes it was there before and after Karbala... this is was just for example, being a follower of Imam Hussain i wud look towards his personality and learn from it... before Karbala i dont remember any incident in which Namaaz was performed in such conditions... thts what I learn from Karbala tht how important Namaaz is... i was quoting this whole thing as an example bro.. coz someone also asked what do u learn from Karbala... so this is one of many things i learn...

Regarding Majalis and Juloos.... it is a form to gather ppl and tell remember our great personalities and learn from tht events... the main purpose is to learn... what u r ryt about is this LEARNING AND APPLYING part is no where to b seen... but as i said, not everything has to b based on results, (for this i quoted the Anbiya Example)....

Regarding (D) I appreciate u for tht.
Regarding ur last paragraph.... this is exctly what i meant but didnt had the ryt words to say it... this is what unfortunately has happened. I agree.

 

[babadeena]

As per determined strategy, first post containing kilometer length
has been pasted, without any sense or motive, this cut n paste
policy does not serve any purpose. Mine questions are very clear
and evasive attitude by pasting long unnecessary post is of
no use.

 

[Veila Mast]

As per determined strategy, first post containing kilometer length
has been pasted, without any sense or motive, this cut n paste
policy does not serve any purpose. Mine questions are very clear
and evasive attitude by pasting long unnecessary post is of
no use.

Phool Ki Pati Say Kat Sakta Hai Heeray Ka Jigar

Mard e Na Daan Pah Kalam e Narm o Nazik Be Asar!

Lol!

 

[molson4u]

TO ALL KARAJI'S... When will you stop the hate toward our prophet and his family? Do you think Quran and sunnah is past time story too? Muhammad died so end of the story and Quran is an old book, why read it? Do you have a deen and if yes what you believe in...Dijjal or his diciples ?

 

[Mughal1]

Dear brothers and sisters, I would like you to think this matter in a a very foundational way. I think we can imagine a long lane of people in party of allah, from the very least grade person to the very top.

What is common between them is how much they supported the cause and and how best they did, that is how they are graded. It is therefore obvious that believers are supporters of each other because they know full well that if they did not support each other the cause will not be successful. All nations remember those who did anything for them in any way. Nations that forget those who helped them survive no longer exist. This is the backbone of a nation. So all ummati need to be respected but more so those who deserve our respect more.

Not everyone is same this is why not all are leaders nor great human beings so those who prove to be so do command respect and deep appreciation.

It is because Allah thinks this way that is why he mentions thise who served him with great pride ie here are my creatures look how great they are. So if we do not treat these people with due respect then we do not have real faith in them.

The quran again and again says, YAA AYYUHALLAZEENA AAMANOO it means O you who have put faith in this message, cause, prophet, brotherhood etc. This means we must put our faith in each other as well because if we did not trust each other with all we have then brotherhood is only in the name. Please think wider implications of being an ummah or a nation.

People who put dowen each other and stab each other in the back, are they brothers or a nation or an ummah? It is because most of us are senselss people we do not realise such deep feelings such ideas generate.

Islam needs to be properly understood if we really want to succeed in this life and the next. Those who struggle for the cause and even die are our true leaders if we could realise. Their loss is a great blow for us and the cause because we lose a lot of right kind of knowledge with them. It is very obvious to kids whose parents are dead or are not educated. The ummah likewise becomes orphan. Loss of prophet threw ummah in a big trouble till some brought it to some sense but that loss kept on showing. As great people in this ummah die the ummah keeps on slipping into more and more chaos because those who remain beyond are not that capable to pull it together as the one paased away.

Hope we people think beyond our petty little quarrels.

regards and all the best.

 

[riverblue]

Kerbala has touched everyone, in many ways, who has a human heart. . Every heart, every mind sees a unique message from the sacrifice. it is mostly labeled as a Shia thing, but has touched many non muslims as well! i think its out of our capability to fully explain the message of Kerbala, the mission of Kerbala, the purpose of Kerbala. We can only assume, what our thought process tells us to. we need to thnk what was so important that Imam Hussain (as) sacrificed his family and did not give in to the demands of the cursed yazid.....He stood for RIGHT... for GOOD...versus EVIL.......we cant just shrug it off as a political war...... none in his or her right mind would would give that big a sacrifice for worldly gains.... we can take a lesson from that and try to apply in our lives as an individual and as a nation.... it wont be of any use if we dont act on it and just go on about it theoretically! Whatever Kerbala may be, it will always be much more than what our minds tell us .

 

[QaiserMirza]

Admin. Bhai,
You can judge how and where this discussion is turning to.
Before I comment , I would like to know that you will not delete my point of view as it will be very harsh to someone.
Its better to close this thread before it goes wild.​

 

[riverblue]

yes thats right...have it closed..like always