Please Share your thoughts about how to get rid of energy crises

sherazopel

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
The Government is not going to do anything about the load shedding. i am not in Pakistan but whenever i talk to someone there they told me about it so how we can get out of this? any idea??????
 

mt_dilber

MPA (400+ posts)
one and only easy way.....govt must pay the circular debt of PSO, they will resume the supply of oil and there will be no load-sheding......there is no shortfall of power, pay for the oil, generate the energy...simple is the :)
 

hunter007

New Member
There are many ways to get rid of shortage, couple of years back I proposed a very viable solution
to this problem to government sources, but so far there is no reponse. As long as you have corrupt
people and don't have intent to fix its never going to happen, they simply don't want to do it. Infact
Pakistan can produce more than enough, however they don't do it intentionally
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Actually , This government job is to impose sanctions on Pakistan for nuclear program.

These are undeclared sanctions apparently.

Target killing , drone killing , bomb killing , black water activities, financial crises , inflation , non availability of any necessity.....these r the jobs of this government.

This is the intermediate step of CIA to loosen our society.
 

sherazopel

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
we have all the resources and abilities to overcome our electricity needs it is obvious that the electricity crises is fake and these 15-20 hrs power shutdowns in most parts of the country are not because lack of generation or oil prices but because of IMF/ World Bank policies accepted by our Govt.
 

sherazopel

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
now lets have an over view of some facts and number figures of the power generation statistics in Pakistan. Electricity produced in Pakistan is from three main sources.
1). Hydral
2). Thermal (Gas/Steam/Furnace Oil)
3). Nuclear
There are four major power producers in country which include Water & Power Development Authority (WAPDA), Karachi Electric Supply Company (KESC), Independent Power Producers (IPPs) and Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC).
Below is the break-up of the installed capacity of each of these power producers (Data Source Undisclosed as of June-2008).
1. WAPDA
a. WAPDA Hydral
Terbela 3478 MW
Mangla 1000 MW
Ghazi-Brotha 1450 MW
Warsak 243 MW
Chashma 184 MW
Dargai 20 MW
Rasul 22 MW
Shadi-Waal 18 MW
NandiPur 14 MW
Kurram Garhi 4 MW
Renala 1 MW
Chitral 1 MW
Jagran (AK) 30 MW
Total Hydal 6461 MWb. WAPDA Thermal
Gas Turbine Power Station, Shadra 59 MW
Steam Power Station, Faisalabad 132 MW
Gas Turbine Power Station, Faisalabad 244 MW
Gas Power Station, Multan 195 MW
Thermal Power Station, Muzaffargarh 1350 MW
Thermal Power Station, Guddu 1655 MW
Gas Turbine Power Station, Kotri 174 MW
Thermal Power Station, Jamshoro 850 MW
Thermal Power Station, Larkana 150 MW
Thermal Power Station, Quetta 35 MW
Gas Turbine Power Station, Panjgur 39 MW
Thermal Power Station, Pasni 17 MW
Total Thermal 4811 MW
WAPDAs Total Hydal + Thermal capacity is 11272 MW.
2. Karachi Electric Supply Company
Thermal Power Station, Korengi 316 MW
Gas Turbine Power Station, Korengi 80 MW
Gas Turbine Power Station, SITE 100 MW
Thermal Power Station, Bin Qasim 1260 MW
Total (KESC) 1756 MW
3. Independent Power Producers (IPPs)
Hub Power Project 1292 MW
AES Lalpir Ltd, Mahmood Kot MuzaffarGarh 362 MW
AES Pak Gen, Mahmood Kot MuzaffarGarh 365 MW
Altern Energy Ltd, Attock 29 MW
Fauji KabirWala Power Company, Khanewal 157 MW
Gul Ahmad Energy Ltd, Korengi 136 MW
Habibullah Coastal Power Ltd 140 MW
Japan Power Generation, Lahore 120 MW
Koh-e-Noor Energy Ltd, Lahore 131 MW
Liberty Power Limited, Ghotki 232 MW
Rousch Power, Khaniwal 412 MW
Saba Power Company, Sheikhpura 114 MW
Southern Electric Power Company Ltd, Raiwind 135 MW
Tapal Energy Limited, Karachi 126 MW
Uch Power Ltd, Dera Murad Jamali, Nasirabad 586 MW
Attock Gen Ltd, Morgah Rawalpindi 165 MW
Atlas Power, Sheikhpura 225 MW
Engro Energy Ltd, Karachi MW
Kot Addu Power Company Limited (Privitized) 1638 MW
Total (IPPs) 6365 MW
4. Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission
KANUPP 137 MW
CHASNUPP-1 325 MW
Total (Nuclear) 462 MW
Hydral Electricity generated by WAPDA varies between two extremities i.e. between minimum of 2414 MW and maximum of 6761 MW depending upon the river flow through the whole year.
Total Power Generation Capacity of Pakistan (including all sources) is 19855 MW and the electricity demand (till 20-04-2010) was 14500 MW and PEPCO is merely generating 10000 MW.
 

United4Pak

Minister (2k+ posts)
There are 2 strategies to avoid energy crisis: firstly save energy and secondly to generate energy through cheaper means.

for saving energy we need to establish factory producing energy saving bulbs so that everyone can afford it. It will save a lot of energy.

for creating energy we should investigate tidal energy, solar energy and coal energy. solar and tidal energies may not give a lot of output but they are very cheap. in the short run, we should do something like Iraqis who built small scale generators to provide electricity to neighbourhoods so that you just pay these people money for your electricity and you get electricity in return for your money not just bill but no electricity.
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Rich people who have ACs in their house should think about it they can do it they are the bigger cosumers so if they consume less it could save a lot of it.
 

rana14801

Senator (1k+ posts)
no doubt dams r to be built to solve the crises permanently. at present easiest way to counter shortage is JUST PAY THE DUES TO ALL AND GENERATE AT FULL CAPACITY.income earned by the companies, pso or wapda is being HARAP KARO by the present regime. if all dues r paid there shall be no shortage of electricity.
 

Chaudhry_1960

Minister (2k+ posts)
The Government is not going to do anything about the load shedding. i am not in Pakistan but whenever i talk to someone there they told me about it so how we can get out of this? any idea??????

Only answer is Solar Energy, we have plenty of sunlight round the year. Generating Solar energy for few fans and few bulbs is very easy and raw material for equipment can be very cheap if tax free and locally built.

Generating solar energy for upto 5 years for 4 fans and 10 CFL bulbs will cost around Rs 10,000/- to 15,000/- if supported by govt. The unit can be installed on the roof of any small house and source of environment friendly clean energy. No need to worry about WAPDA bills, line man, load shedding etc.
 
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mt_dilber

MPA (400+ posts)
Actually , This government job is to impose sanctions on Pakistan for nuclear program.

These are undeclared sanctions apparently.

Target killing , drone killing , bomb killing , black water activities, financial crises , inflation , non availability of any necessity.....these r the jobs of this government.

This is the intermediate step of CIA to loosen our society.


it is very easy to blame others for ur own incompetence, Pakistanis are in such a position now that they get scared from their own shadow and scream that there is someone chasing them..in fact it is their own shadow............. :)
 

Rana Tahir Mahmood

Senator (1k+ posts)
I propose very simple solution to get rid of load shedding - Just gathers the people of Pakistan and disconnect the electric connections of President House, Chief Minister Houses, All Minister's houses and other Government Official where there is no load shedding. The second day there will be no load shedding in the country.

I am 100% sure there is no shortage of electricity in Pakistan and generating capacity is quite more than the actual requirements but it is just the malicious attitude of the Rulers towards the Public as they are thinking the normal Pakistani not a human being but a slave.
 

makdaone

Councller (250+ posts)
just ask ALLAH forgive us and put as on right path Insallah Allah will solve our all problem.
you know why i am saying this because i feel ALLAH is giving as Azab we made this country for the name of Islam now what Islam in Pakistan ?. Pakistani made their own religion of doing end limit of bidat and shirk.

just watch these two video may be you will come on right path and ask Allah to forgive us.