100% Agreed.
Islam has already done exactly what you mentioned, that is why Islam did not stay in Arabia it reached all corners of the world from political governance to everyday life of its followers.
Allah has made humans as a creature that will disagree and fight all the time. Why do you think it is something which humans are not supposed to do?
"And when your Lord said to the angels, 'Indeed, I am going to make a vicegerent on the earth,' they said, 'Will You place therein one who will cause corruption therein and shed blood, while we extol Your praise and sanctify You?' He said, 'Indeed, I know what you do not know.'" (Quran 2:30)
That's your personal opinion. Are you more knowledgeable than they are, if yes then based on what ? Are you a bigger scholar than they are?
alleged verses? you don't believe in Quran being the word of Allah?
Dear observer x sb, you have not explained how the quran proves to be word of God. Proof requires logical consistency but before that one has to know what proof is and be able to define it.
Human mind cannot believe anything at all without making some sort of sense of it. Just saying I believe this or that is neither here nor there. I have already explained things from my point of view but I am still waiting for your explanation and evidences for what you claim to believe.
As I said already, read my posts to see how I approach things. Then if you disagree, explain things from your own point of view and then we can see whether any of us is making better sense of things or any sense at all.
You claim about a thing that it is a car and I claim it is a bicycle. Now we both need to explain why it is a car or bicycle according to our individual understandings respectively? I have explained many things already from my point of view and you have yet to explain. Only that explanation will be acceptable which makes better sense of things and not the one which muddles up things. That is because an explanation has to make things clear and not mysterious.
From your posts I gather you are a blind follower of past generations. In that case which sect ulema are your leaders? Sunnies or shias? If sunny then are you hanafi, maliki, shaafai or hambali etc etc? Are you qadri, chishti, nashbandi or soharvardi or a mixture of some of them? Each sect has declared the rest kaafir, mushrik, gustaakh and biddati etc etc etc. So you can see you have a lot of explaining to do to prove yourself a religious muslim according to your own past generations or imaams or soofi bazurgs etc etc. This you can never do and the fight goes on and on. I have nothing at all to do with religion be it any religion including islam or its sects hence my interpretation of the quran is not religion or sectarian based. I am a muslim according to the purpose based proper interpretation of the quranic text, not according to some mullah interpretation of the quran which makes no sense at all.
You can find much much more from senseless debates between mullahs of various religions and sects on youtube etc. This is why it is vitally important that a person leaves religions and their sects alone because they are toxic for future of humanity as they were in the past. Likewise is dangerous secularism because it too leads to divisions between people in various ways eg we have people divided due to capitalism, communism and socialism etc. We have upper classes, middle classes and lower classes. We have parties claiming to be authoritarian or democratic who are fighting for single party or multiparty democratic ideology and system. All this is nothing less than nonsense so where do you fit-in in all this? So you can see why I am neither secular nor religious because I am led along another path which is explained by the quran in light of self evident facts.
This is why you have some explaining to do about your basis for arguing about things in regard to quran and islam etc. None can prove anyone nonmuslims, kafir and mushrik etc etc unless one is able to clearly define what actual islam is by interpreting the quran clearly without nonsense. All mullah interpretation are full of various kinds of problems which renders them invalid. Again I have explained things in this regard in detail in my posts for those who wish to make the effort for knowing things purposefully properly. On the contrary I see you are arguing about things without any clear basis or framework. So again I suggest you go through my explanations to see how I am trying to put forth my case to see if I am making any sense. If not, you can help me do that by offering your own purpose based proper explanations. That is all you need to do, because a person who cannot make purpose based proper sense of things cannot make his case no matter how hard one tries.
Meanwhile regards and all the best.
