The Quran's Stance on Hadiths

[Shurahbil]

Ascension of who?

Of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh to Heaven, I understand you don't believe in the prayer part.

 

[Shurahbil]

That may be your methodology, but I use my brain, and I hardly depend on any particular mullah and I always verify it for myself.

Brilliant, how do you verify and against what and with whom?

 

[Shurahbil]

How hard it is to understand the following verses?

"And We have revealed the Book to you which has a clear explanation of everything, and a guidance, mercy and good news for those who submit." (Qur'an 16:89)

“Shall I then seek a Judge other than Allah? When it is He Who has revealed to you the Book fully detailed?” (Qur'an 6:114)

"Say, ‘I do not say to you that I have treasures of Allah, nor do I know the unseen, nor do I tell you that I am an angel. I only follow what is revealed to me.’ " (Qur’an 6:50)

I do understand the verses, but your literal (similar to the Khawarij approach) is what has put you where you are.

Now you take these verses literally right, that they explain everything (EVERYTHING). Then how do you explain there is no mention of say how to use a computer, do algebra etc? What literal and clear verse is it that you use to limit the words 'everything' and 'fully detailed'?

Using your and your brother Citizen X's approach how do you understand the following verse :

“..And whoever does not judge by what Allaah has revealed such are the disbelievers (kaafiroon).” [Al-Maa`idah (5):44]

If someone applies it to the Judges/Rulers they would find them disbelievers if they are not referring to the Qur'an right?

 

[Wake up Pak]

Of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh to Heaven, I understand you don't believe in the prayer part.

Do you believe that the Prophet went to Heaven? Can you post that hadith here? There are 2 or 3 versions of that hadith as well.

Brilliant, how do you verify and against what and with whom?

You'll need some common sense and reasoning, which the majority of you don't have.

I do understand the verses, but your literal (similar to the Khawarij approach) is what has put you where you are.

Now you take these verses literally right, that they explain everything (EVERYTHING). Then how do you explain there is no mention of say how to use a computer, do algebra etc? What literal and clear verse is it that you use to limit the words 'everything' and 'fully detailed'?

Is the Quran a book of science, history, or guidance?
Now, your weird and pathetic logic tells me that you need counseling because you can't seem to understand even the most basic verses.
When your mind is clogged with weird ahadith, it is the result of someone like you.

 

[Wake up Pak]

“..And whoever does not judge by what Allaah has revealed such are the disbelievers (kaafiroon).” [Al-Maa`idah (5):44]

If someone applies it to the Judges/Rulers they would find them disbelievers if they are not referring to the Qur'an right?

And what do you think? Are you questioning the Quran?

 

[Shurahbil]

And what do you think? Are you questioning the Quran?

Are you going give a straight answer other that nonsense you are providing.

So far I have gathered -

You don't pray at all and reject the notion of it.
Your understanding of the Qur'an is not from knowing any context of revelation but from whatever your own logic and reasoning concludes.
You have no scholars.
Any judgement made not guided by the Qur'an makes one a disbeliever.
You limit the word 'everything' to refer to matters of guidance matters only - but then assume that everything means everything when it comes to ritual practises of worship.
You reject any notion of obedience to the Messenger of Allah being possible to anyone other than the Companions r.a. So was a verse sent down that was only applicable for that group only?
You seem to reject the ascension of the Prophet pbuh to Heaven too right?

 

[Shurahbil]

Do you believe that the Prophet went to Heaven? Can you post that hadith here? There are 2 or 3 versions of that hadith as well

I do believe it - pointless posted what you reject, I am not bothered by what you say about them, nor do you accept them at all.

Do you believe the ascension?

 

[Wake up Pak]

Are you going give a straight answer other that nonsense you are providing.

So far I have gathered -

You don't pray at all and reject the notion of it.
Your understanding of the Qur'an is not from knowing any context of revelation but from whatever your own logic and reasoning concludes.
You have no scholars.
Any judgement made not guided by the Qur'an makes one a disbeliever.
You limit the word 'everything' to refer to matters of guidance matters only - but then assume that everything means everything when it comes to ritual practises of worship.
You reject any notion of obedience to the Messenger of Allah being possible to anyone other than the Companions r.a. So was a verse sent down that was only applicable for that group only?
You seem to reject the ascension of the Prophet pbuh to Heaven too right?

I have answered your childish and non-serious queries; now it is up to you to learn and grasp it, but I doubt you will ever bother to apply logic and brain as a blind follower.

 

[Wake up Pak]

I do believe it - pointless posted what you reject, I am not bothered by what you say about them, nor do you accept them at all.

Do you believe the ascension?

If you believe in the ascension, you must evaluate your thoughts. Living in the twenty-first century and having people be that stupid defies logic.

 

[Shurahbil]

If you believe in the ascension, you must evaluate your thoughts. Living in the twenty-first century and having people be that stupid defies logic.

The Isra and Miraj are both mentioned in the Qur'an.

I'm glad I spoke to you, while I agree hadith and Qur'an are not on the same level, you and your approach of not just rejecting the hadith, also through your methodology of 'logic and reasoning' end up rejecting parts of the Qur'an that don't tally up with your own logic and reasoning. You're an idiot.

Still may Allah guide both of us to that which pleases Him. Ameen.

 

[Wake up Pak]

The Isra and Miraj are both mentioned in the Qur'an.

I'm glad I spoke to you, while I agree hadith and Qur'an are not on the same level, you and your approach of not just rejecting the hadith, also through your methodology of 'logic and reasoning' end up rejecting parts of the Qur'an that don't tally up with your own logic and reasoning. You're an idiot.

Still may Allah guide both of us to that which pleases Him. Ameen.

This shows how stupid and illiterate you are when it comes to the Quran. Show me where Miraj is mentioned in the Quran. The Quran has Sura Al Isra, and this Surah is talking about Prophet Moses. Read the few verses after the first one & you will know the exact context of it.
By the way, you still haven't responded about Namaz.

 

[Citizen X]

The Isra and Miraj are both mentioned in the Qur'an.

Oh this is new. I would like to see this too.