Citizen X
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And that would be 2 more brain cells than what you posses, lol
The Quran's Stance on Hadiths
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Wake up Pak
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I feel sorry for these dumb & blind sheep. They like to argue, but they have no answer to the most performed Namaz ritual, which they have been practicing since childhood.Shhhhhhh ..... Guaranteed our resident genius here doesn't even know that he cannot get his namaz from his beloved garbage books. He just believes this is the case, because that's what he's been told. Because all these bhaands keep repeating over and over again, that the Quran doesn't have any details, all the details are to be found in the hadith. And they know 99% of sheep will never bother to check and champions like Asim Al Hakeem puts out warnings no no no one should not read and tackle the hadith. The hadith are only for the aalims. Same way some bhaand moulvis even today tell jahils not to read the Quran on their own, verna gumrah ho jao gay!
Wake up Pak
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Well, at least we have brain cells, but regrettably, your brain cells seem to be dead.
NasNY
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I learned it at the Madrasa forgot the teachers nameYou forgot to answer this one.
Citizen X
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Any clue where your teacher learnt it from?
Wake up Pak
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Did you bother to verify it for yourself?
NasNY
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
sorry dude my brain shuts down when i try to operate at your mental level.
Citizen X
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You forgot that it is THE most import imaginary pillar of Islam. And if you dont do your namaz for 40 days you become a Kaffir, and this namaz is the first thing Allah will ask you about on the day of judgement.
And yet somehow according to then (Nuazubillah) Allah s.w.t. The All Knowing The All Seeing forgot to mention how many times you are suppose to preform this super important worship ritual or even how to perform it in his one book he sent to all of mankind till the end of time.
And not only that even the Prophet in his "authentic hadith" forgot to explain it to us. Out of 100 of 1000s of hadith not one hadith explaining how to perform this ever so important worship ritual.
I can bet you, once more and more people start to become aware somewhere in the near future some bhaand moulvi will come up with an excuse as to why Allah and the messenger did not tell us how to do this namaz. Just like today they say Allah made the messenger forget on which night is Lailat ul Qadar so people pray during all the nights, so it was for our own benefit. So somehow not telling us how to pray will also be because it was for our own benefit!!!!!!!!!
Wake up Pak
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Nothing personal, dude. I'm just trying to understand the Namaz conspiracy.
Citizen X
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That does tend to happen when you overload your one and only brain cell. And are you secretly trying to tell us you have a brain!
Wake up Pak
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I remember once I asked atensari about the Namaz, and my question to him was if all the narrators were Muslims, then how come the complete method of Namaz was not narrated in one single Hadith? Why in bits & pieces through different narrators? After that question, I have not seen him arguing/debating about the Namaz again.
Citizen X
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Surprise surprise. guess he's not that dumb after all and knows when to quit
67+ SALAH QUOTES IN QURAN (VERSES IN QURAN ABOUT ISLAMIC PRAYERS)
67+ Salah Quotes in Quran (verses in Quran About Islamic Prayers)
There are 67+ mentions in the Quran about Salah or the prayer. They contain signifcance of prayer, spirtuality, warnings, and blessings. Read what they are.
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Citizen X
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Read properly. I specifically said the word namaz not salah. Thought you won a $1000 eh! lol67+ SALAH QUOTES IN QURAN (VERSES IN QURAN ABOUT ISLAMIC PRAYERS)
67+ Salah Quotes in Quran (verses in Quran About Islamic Prayers)
There are 67+ mentions in the Quran about Salah or the prayer. They contain signifcance of prayer, spirtuality, warnings, and blessings. Read what they are.
OK, what is the difference between salah and namaz.Salah is an arabic word and namaz is a farsi equivalent of it.
Wake up Pak
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The Quran does not have the details of the Namaz because the Namaz was not ordained in the Quran.
Salamun Alaikum Brother Citizen X:
We need to follow the Quran in how to have a dialog with each other, and we cannot pass judgement on anyone. Mockery, point-scoring, Who-is-smarter is not the objective here!
Examples:
1. [20:43][20:44] Our Rabb is directing Musa and Harun AS towards Fir'oun (who is undoubtedly one of the worst characters in Quran)
Approximate Translation: Go, both of you, to Pharaoh, for he has exceeded all bounds.
Speak to him gently so that he may take heed, or show respect.
So when we talk to our Muslim brothers we should be even more softer in speech.
2. [25:63] Our Rabb is describing what His Abd do when they encounter people that lack knowledge
Approximate Translation: The servants of the Lord of Mercy are those who walk humbly on the earth, and who, when the foolish address them, reply, 'Peace'
3. [46:9] Our Rabb is directing our beloved Prophet PBUH to declare that he doesn't know anything about his own or other's status/judgement.
Approximate Translation: Say, 'I am nothing new among God's messengers. I do not know what will be done with me or you; I only follow what is revealed to me; I only warn plainly.'
So we don't know what our station is much less what some-one else's station is in Allah's absolute knowledge and wisdom.
JazakAllah Khair, May Our Rabb increase us in Knowledge.
I will end with this quote (not mine)
The problem is not people being uneducated. The problem is that people are educated just enough to believe what they have been taught, and not educated enough to question anything from what they have been taught.
We need to follow the Quran in how to have a dialog with each other, and we cannot pass judgement on anyone. Mockery, point-scoring, Who-is-smarter is not the objective here!
Examples:
1. [20:43][20:44] Our Rabb is directing Musa and Harun AS towards Fir'oun (who is undoubtedly one of the worst characters in Quran)
Approximate Translation: Go, both of you, to Pharaoh, for he has exceeded all bounds.
Speak to him gently so that he may take heed, or show respect.
So when we talk to our Muslim brothers we should be even more softer in speech.
2. [25:63] Our Rabb is describing what His Abd do when they encounter people that lack knowledge
Approximate Translation: The servants of the Lord of Mercy are those who walk humbly on the earth, and who, when the foolish address them, reply, 'Peace'
3. [46:9] Our Rabb is directing our beloved Prophet PBUH to declare that he doesn't know anything about his own or other's status/judgement.
Approximate Translation: Say, 'I am nothing new among God's messengers. I do not know what will be done with me or you; I only follow what is revealed to me; I only warn plainly.'
So we don't know what our station is much less what some-one else's station is in Allah's absolute knowledge and wisdom.
JazakAllah Khair, May Our Rabb increase us in Knowledge.
I will end with this quote (not mine)
The problem is not people being uneducated. The problem is that people are educated just enough to believe what they have been taught, and not educated enough to question anything from what they have been taught.
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Citizen X
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You just explained it yourself. Namaz is a Farsi word and not to be found in the Quran and that was the challenge at hand.
