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Now let us look at the thread, which was closed, not deleted .
In my opinion this is a clear-cut violation of the forum.
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?34692-Official-reply-by-dr-zakir-naik-on-karbala-amp-yazid
1:
Post # 3 in this thread is filled with Hatred!
2:
Post #6 by Duke London is filled with hate:
Zakir Naik is a scar on the face of Islam. Bloody Liar and hypocrite. Zakir Naik and his followers will get an eternal place with their beloved Yazid.
3:
Post#11 promoting hate.
4: Taking about Najdi, Wahabbis and biddati (promoting hate against each other)
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?51031-SUFI-MUSIC-Whats-the-reality/page3 post #55
5: In the same thread post #77
The people who do not agree with the member cheeko are called biddati?
This is clearly promoting hate.
Post # 79 making fun of some one’s ancestors.
Re: SUFI MUSIC ----- Whats the reality?
Originally Posted by basim973
Who does not know that peeri mureedi is not about learning islam?
Can you tell name of person who converted your ancestor to Islam. Was he Najdi. I am laughing at your jokings you are funny.
Post #95
Calling someone Mushrik.
Post #105 Calling others Bidatti, calling Najadi Biddatti.
Is this promoting harmony or Hate?
Post # 110 again same thing calling others names.
Post # 115
Post # 123 Again talking about sectarianism.
Calling other who is not of his beliefs Mushrik, Najadi, Wahabi.
Post # 130 Hate promotion for others.
Post # 135
Originally Posted by Cheeko
He already telling you he want to go where. He also telling you to come. You want to go to the jannat of dajjal then congratulation.
May Allah guide you Ameen.
My brother,
please donot get personal and get he hatred out of your mind this is stopping you to see and accept the truth.
For Allah's sake read, researh, think and seek Allah's help.
May Allah guide us all.
Post #156
Post #165
Post # 175
Promoting hate against one group calling others non-believer?
Post # 175 promoting sectarian views,
Post # 199 calling people bigoted minded?
Post # 207 is sectarian
Post # A member is asking “cheeko” “You r being judgemental here, u defend sufism and that implies you r sufi (i am not giving u any title).......All the titles u tried to give me in all ur posts like wahabi, ahle-hadith, najdi etc., i never tried to defend any of those titles......i like one title for myself and for all of you my brothers which is muslim.......Only thing i defended and presented and actually requested to you all is to get back to the quran and hadith only and donot confuse yourself with all the later invensions with different concepts claiming to be islam.”
Post # 215, 216
If these posts are personal as the member is quoting. Then this should be private discussion.
Post #226 calling others bigoted minded? Personal attacks.
Post # 227 Labeling people with offensive remarks
“ I dont have to remember every thing because every thing is recorded O najdi follower. You have no answer and now this is what you have been left that remember this and remember that. What I will like I will say good and what I will not agree I will not tell good. If you have any answer then talk otherwise dont waste time.
Post #305, 306
Full of hate about other differing groups.
Sectarian post.
Read Post #317
In post #325 Member sngilani has these remarks.
Do'nt spread hatret and promote secretarian devide on this forum. We all know Shia and Sunni have been blaming each other for creating febricated Hadeeths for last 1400 years. I object strongly and demand from admin of Siasatpk to close this and similar threads permanently.
Post #328 has video about criticizing Sufism. Hate and sectarian,
Post # 332 and 333 full of sectarian attacks.
Do you think that the Shytani Raqs can make Pakistan rise?
Do'nt spread hatret and promote secretarian devide on this forum. We all know Shia and Sunni have been blaming each other for creating febricated Hadeeths for last 1400 years. I object strongly and demand from admin of Siasatpk to close this and similar threads permanently
These threads are full of name-calling, hate, personal attacks and sectarian.
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Although the administrators and moderators of Siasat.pk Forums will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this site, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Siasat.pk Forums, nor vBulletin Solutions, Inc. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message.
By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.
The owners of Siasat.pk Forums reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any content item for any reason.
When we join the forum as member, we acknowledge that we will follow the rules of the forum.
Now let us look at the thread, which was closed, not deleted .
In my opinion this is a clear-cut violation of the forum.
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?34692-Official-reply-by-dr-zakir-naik-on-karbala-amp-yazid
1:
Post # 3 in this thread is filled with Hatred!
2:
Post #6 by Duke London is filled with hate:
Zakir Naik is a scar on the face of Islam. Bloody Liar and hypocrite. Zakir Naik and his followers will get an eternal place with their beloved Yazid.
3:
Post#11 promoting hate.
4: Taking about Najdi, Wahabbis and biddati (promoting hate against each other)
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?51031-SUFI-MUSIC-Whats-the-reality/page3 post #55
5: In the same thread post #77
The people who do not agree with the member cheeko are called biddati?
This is clearly promoting hate.
Post # 79 making fun of some one’s ancestors.
Re: SUFI MUSIC ----- Whats the reality?
Originally Posted by basim973
Who does not know that peeri mureedi is not about learning islam?
Can you tell name of person who converted your ancestor to Islam. Was he Najdi. I am laughing at your jokings you are funny.
Post #95
Calling someone Mushrik.
Post #105 Calling others Bidatti, calling Najadi Biddatti.
Is this promoting harmony or Hate?
Post # 110 again same thing calling others names.
Post # 115
Post # 123 Again talking about sectarianism.
Calling other who is not of his beliefs Mushrik, Najadi, Wahabi.
Post # 130 Hate promotion for others.
Post # 135
Originally Posted by Cheeko
He already telling you he want to go where. He also telling you to come. You want to go to the jannat of dajjal then congratulation.
May Allah guide you Ameen.
My brother,
please donot get personal and get he hatred out of your mind this is stopping you to see and accept the truth.
For Allah's sake read, researh, think and seek Allah's help.
May Allah guide us all.
Post #156
Post #165
Post # 175
Promoting hate against one group calling others non-believer?
Post # 175 promoting sectarian views,
Post # 199 calling people bigoted minded?
Post # 207 is sectarian
Post # A member is asking “cheeko” “You r being judgemental here, u defend sufism and that implies you r sufi (i am not giving u any title).......All the titles u tried to give me in all ur posts like wahabi, ahle-hadith, najdi etc., i never tried to defend any of those titles......i like one title for myself and for all of you my brothers which is muslim.......Only thing i defended and presented and actually requested to you all is to get back to the quran and hadith only and donot confuse yourself with all the later invensions with different concepts claiming to be islam.”
Post # 215, 216
If these posts are personal as the member is quoting. Then this should be private discussion.
Post #226 calling others bigoted minded? Personal attacks.
Post # 227 Labeling people with offensive remarks
“ I dont have to remember every thing because every thing is recorded O najdi follower. You have no answer and now this is what you have been left that remember this and remember that. What I will like I will say good and what I will not agree I will not tell good. If you have any answer then talk otherwise dont waste time.
Post #305, 306
Full of hate about other differing groups.
Sectarian post.
Read Post #317
In post #325 Member sngilani has these remarks.
Do'nt spread hatret and promote secretarian devide on this forum. We all know Shia and Sunni have been blaming each other for creating febricated Hadeeths for last 1400 years. I object strongly and demand from admin of Siasatpk to close this and similar threads permanently.
Post #328 has video about criticizing Sufism. Hate and sectarian,
Post # 332 and 333 full of sectarian attacks.
Do you think that the Shytani Raqs can make Pakistan rise?
Do'nt spread hatret and promote secretarian devide on this forum. We all know Shia and Sunni have been blaming each other for creating febricated Hadeeths for last 1400 years. I object strongly and demand from admin of Siasatpk to close this and similar threads permanently
These threads are full of name-calling, hate, personal attacks and sectarian.
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@Communicator
You r quoting me out of context and its not a surprise due to your personal affiliation. All my posts have come as a response to the ongoing abuse and attack. You are one eyed because you havent quoted the ones who started all this. Just above your post even in this thread Pakistani 1947 has proposed a new rule for restricting to quote Sahih Hadees which isnt even acceptable to any sect as especially the sect followed in Saudia cannot justify even all the actions of their prayers from Sahai Sitta. This person is continuously misguiding every one and it looks that you have closed your one eye and passed across his post. Instead of working so hard in pasting my comments out of context you could have told that you r a biased person and will continue your biasedness.
You r quoting me out of context and its not a surprise due to your personal affiliation. All my posts have come as a response to the ongoing abuse and attack. You are one eyed because you havent quoted the ones who started all this. Just above your post even in this thread Pakistani 1947 has proposed a new rule for restricting to quote Sahih Hadees which isnt even acceptable to any sect as especially the sect followed in Saudia cannot justify even all the actions of their prayers from Sahai Sitta. This person is continuously misguiding every one and it looks that you have closed your one eye and passed across his post. Instead of working so hard in pasting my comments out of context you could have told that you r a biased person and will continue your biasedness.
Re: Quraan: "And if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it back to Allaah and His Messenger pbuh"
I have replied to you already and instead of arguing uselessly with you on this matter I want you to answer this -
Prove the namaz that you offer from Sahai Sitta only. Each and every action from Sahai Sitta only. Even one Hadees from any other book is not allowed. Can you show me all the facts about Imam Mahdi quoted by all Sunni
scholars [regardless of whatever sect they belong] from Sahai Sitta only. Lets see how much you know about Islam.
I have replied to you already and instead of arguing uselessly with you on this matter I want you to answer this -
Prove the namaz that you offer from Sahai Sitta only. Each and every action from Sahai Sitta only. Even one Hadees from any other book is not allowed. Can you show me all the facts about Imam Mahdi quoted by all Sunni
scholars [regardless of whatever sect they belong] from Sahai Sitta only. Lets see how much you know about Islam.
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I did not ask this ,what i asked was this, plz have courage and explain this,
I cannot remember all but i would share some threads which faced this special treatment apart from many posts.
1-Verdict of two renowned scholars on a sensitive issue
this thread has been merged with an old finished thread in with a different title in order to safeguard Zakir Naik.
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?34692-Official-reply-by-dr-zakir-naik-on-karbala-amp-yazid&p=308117&viewfull=1#post308117
You can see the difference in attitude here these two are totally different threads but this thread was converted to a post intentionally so that nobody can see that Zakir Naik misquoted Bukhari sharif hadyt.
And you can see how cleverly the thread was merged with a thread which was already closed to safeguard Zakir Naik.
Secondly why i was not informed about it ,i did not get any mail whatsoever about this action.
If you are sincere enough its not difficult to find out who did it if one has admin rights.
Plz share with us this cheap culprit.
2-Another thread regarding wahabi extremist financed by america in which Hillary Clinton exposed them was removed from religious section to India /International siasat by waseem Why ????
3-why this thread was closed in the name of sectarian debate
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?53736-Professor-Ahmad-Rafiq-Akhtar-answering-Imran-khan-s-Question
according to one of moderators Communicator mentioning forum rules http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?53736-Professor-Ahmad-Rafiq-Akhtar-answering-Imran-khan-s-Question&p=305663&viewfull=1#post305663
Please dare to ask him about forum rules applicability on the thread 'What is shirk' http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?52519-What-is-shirk-(%26%231588;%26%231585;%26%231705;-%26%231705;%26%231740;%26%231575;-%26%231729;%26%231746;) which is tolerated here on forum for about 3-4 weeks.....i had reported it that it is against forum rules but no action taken plz explain why ????????????????????
4-What would you say about this thread i also reported this one that it would promote sectarian hatred but no action taken against it why ?????????????????
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?53559-Christmas-Greetings-to-Milad-People-By-SAMEEN-AHMED-KHAN
5-I also reported this thread which is totally against a sect and also targetting a religious figure http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?53487-Merey-Pir-Dee-Har-Dam-Khar-(manqabt)
why was this thread not deleted or closed or merged ???????????????
Plz explain.
6-Another thread in which zakir Naik says against partition of India was removed why ???????????
7-Another post "Importance of Adab e Mustafa s.a.w" http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?52519-What-is-shirk-(%26%231588%3B%26%231585%3B%26%231705%3B-%26%231705%3B%26%231740%3B%26%231575%3B-%26%231729%3B%26%231746%3B)&p=294717&viewfull=1#post294717 was merged under "what is shirk" why ??????????????
this was totally a different topic but still the thread was converted to a post so that people might not see it.
If you are fair enough please explain why this happened ?????????
8-Another thread of mine "A renowned scholar provoking people to attack Milaad events."http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?52519-What-is-shirk-(%26%231588%3B%26%231585%3B%26%231705%3B-%26%231705%3B%26%231740%3B%26%231575%3B-%26%231729%3B%26%231746%3B)&p=294720&viewfull=1#post294720
was converted to a post in the thread "what is shirk " it had nothing to do with shirk but the same tactics were used to hide this from the viewer.
plz explain why this post was merged with a thread which targeted a sect (barelvies) which is against your rules of the forum.
In my view this was used to promote the thread against brelvies and hide or stop threads against wahabies /deobandies.
if you have any other reason do share that.
Mr Adeel if you are sincere enough then you should know about this. I hope you would take proper action about it and expose the culprit behind this.
if such practices are followed then change its name from islamic corner to wahabi corner.
Pakistani1947
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Quraan: "And if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it back to Allaah and His Messenger pbuh"
Samar, I really appreciate moderator's patience who are tolerating your irresponsible and rude behavior. You, cheecko and veila mast are spreading hatred and provoking others. Cheeko and others are continuously labeling me Najdi and wahabi etc., whereas I never supported any sect. I am a Muslim only and follow Quraan and Sunnah pbuh as per order of Allah.
Samar, I really appreciate moderator's patience who are tolerating your irresponsible and rude behavior. You, cheecko and veila mast are spreading hatred and provoking others. Cheeko and others are continuously labeling me Najdi and wahabi etc., whereas I never supported any sect. I am a Muslim only and follow Quraan and Sunnah pbuh as per order of Allah.
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Veila Mast
Senator (1k+ posts)
Dear Moderator:
Just to draw your kind attention to highly sensitive issue here:
Can you even imagine what he said:
"WAQA E KARBALA IS BEATING AROUND BUSH"!!!!!!!!!
For Allah's sake NO SECT in Islam can ever THINK to say this!!!!!!!!!
"GONE IS GONE"
Whom he is saying GONE????????
Imam Hussain Razi Allah Tala Anho is ALIVE, ALIVE, ALIVE!!!!!!!!
ALLAH KI KASAM IMAM HUSSAIN RAZI ALLAH TALA ANHO ZINDA HAIN
He says to FORGET about those wars as they are not PART OF EBADAH!!!!!
Today he is saying this, tomorrow he will say to FORGET about JANG E BADAR, JANGE UHUD, ALL GHAZWAT, ALL SARIYA, ALL THOSE WARS WHICH WERE FOUGHT BY SAHABA KARAM AND TAB'EEN RIZWAN ULLAJ TALA AJMAEEN AS "REMEMBERING THOSE IS NOT PART OF EBADAH"
He says that NO ONE SUPPORTED IMAM HUSSAIN RAZI ALLAH TALA ANHO AT THAT TIME!!!!!!!!!
How come he judged that??????
Does he know even 1 page of Muslim History?
Does he know what happened to Yazid's son, Ibne Ziyad and all others?
Does he know what happened in Madinah after this incident?
Were they all silent, they didn't do anything?
Does he mean MUSLIMS WERE SO COWARD TO SAVE THEIR LIVES THAT THEY DIDN'T SUPPORT HIM????????????
VERY VERY SERIOUS ALLEGATION AGAINST ALL MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!!!
He says that NO ONE LEARNT A LESSON FROM TRAGEDY!!!!!!!!!
No one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am really speechless after reading such ALLEGATIONS and STRONGLY PROTEST and REQUEST to remove such REMARKS immediately.
I urge Babadeena to apologise for such post!!!!!!!
Just to draw your kind attention to highly sensitive issue here:
Can you even imagine what he said:
"WAQA E KARBALA IS BEATING AROUND BUSH"!!!!!!!!!
For Allah's sake NO SECT in Islam can ever THINK to say this!!!!!!!!!
"GONE IS GONE"
Whom he is saying GONE????????
Imam Hussain Razi Allah Tala Anho is ALIVE, ALIVE, ALIVE!!!!!!!!
ALLAH KI KASAM IMAM HUSSAIN RAZI ALLAH TALA ANHO ZINDA HAIN
He says to FORGET about those wars as they are not PART OF EBADAH!!!!!
Today he is saying this, tomorrow he will say to FORGET about JANG E BADAR, JANGE UHUD, ALL GHAZWAT, ALL SARIYA, ALL THOSE WARS WHICH WERE FOUGHT BY SAHABA KARAM AND TAB'EEN RIZWAN ULLAJ TALA AJMAEEN AS "REMEMBERING THOSE IS NOT PART OF EBADAH"
He says that NO ONE SUPPORTED IMAM HUSSAIN RAZI ALLAH TALA ANHO AT THAT TIME!!!!!!!!!
How come he judged that??????
Does he know even 1 page of Muslim History?
Does he know what happened to Yazid's son, Ibne Ziyad and all others?
Does he know what happened in Madinah after this incident?
Were they all silent, they didn't do anything?
Does he mean MUSLIMS WERE SO COWARD TO SAVE THEIR LIVES THAT THEY DIDN'T SUPPORT HIM????????????
VERY VERY SERIOUS ALLEGATION AGAINST ALL MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!!!
He says that NO ONE LEARNT A LESSON FROM TRAGEDY!!!!!!!!!
No one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am really speechless after reading such ALLEGATIONS and STRONGLY PROTEST and REQUEST to remove such REMARKS immediately.
I urge Babadeena to apologise for such post!!!!!!!
abbasiali
Minister (2k+ posts)
@Samar,
Simply follow one rule, Talk siasat.....What ever ever points you raised will be answered on weekend very briefly,.......however and unfortunately inspite of our serveral reminders, no one follow simple rule, i:e don't interfere others matter, If any of belive would like to bring their knowledge in forum, it should be sack of knowledge, not based on hatred on others believe, unfortunately, whoever start any kind of religion based debate, it got either deleted or closed. Several time personally I have mentioned, if you like some praise them by addressing them, if you don't like then write your concern without addressing individuals........Shirk is very clear and under any circumstances this kind of literature in form of writing and photo will be deleted at its earliest....so don't bother to argue in this regard......it is very simple to controvise any person on personal like and dislike.....we are dealing on the basis of Pakistan, not on religion and will keep continue regardless of any discrimination.....and expect all of our members to understand...no one in team is personal to anyone...same kind of objections, I have respond to different sects and believers, cuz every one felt they had been treated on biase attitude....I am really thankfull to those who have cooperated in this regard......also thankfull to those also who have threatend me on PM by all means....and still knew the flexible behavior from us......
Simply follow one rule, Talk siasat.....What ever ever points you raised will be answered on weekend very briefly,.......however and unfortunately inspite of our serveral reminders, no one follow simple rule, i:e don't interfere others matter, If any of belive would like to bring their knowledge in forum, it should be sack of knowledge, not based on hatred on others believe, unfortunately, whoever start any kind of religion based debate, it got either deleted or closed. Several time personally I have mentioned, if you like some praise them by addressing them, if you don't like then write your concern without addressing individuals........Shirk is very clear and under any circumstances this kind of literature in form of writing and photo will be deleted at its earliest....so don't bother to argue in this regard......it is very simple to controvise any person on personal like and dislike.....we are dealing on the basis of Pakistan, not on religion and will keep continue regardless of any discrimination.....and expect all of our members to understand...no one in team is personal to anyone...same kind of objections, I have respond to different sects and believers, cuz every one felt they had been treated on biase attitude....I am really thankfull to those who have cooperated in this regard......also thankfull to those also who have threatend me on PM by all means....and still knew the flexible behavior from us......
abbasiali
Minister (2k+ posts)
@Samar,
You have done a great home work, so wait for sometime to get the proper answer, I have already mentioned in above post, but for your personal satisfaction, you will get word to word answer, because I believe, when ever rules are made and published our fellow people make sure how to break them and make the person controversial who brought all these rule in writing, all I will say Communicator has brought the rules, but you simply don't want to read or agree because you your self like to violate and bringing controversy...anyways my dear, trust me you will get the response at its merit, plus will advise you to read all rules once again and be ready to defy yourself first then anything else...
News Update thread named " A renowned Deobandi scholar introduces Dr.Tahir ul Qadri..." has been deleted and reason mentioned is that it is irrelevant and the moderator did not understand the purpose of this thread
How it is irrelevant ? In My opinion it is quite relevant it has islamic touch and it is under islamic corner ,secondly one alim is renowned deobandi alim and other is renowned sunni/barelvi alim.........how a renowned deobandi alim gave respect to Dr. Tahir ul qadri should be an example to all those whose one point agenda is to spread sectarian hatred.
It is a slap of all hate mongers. It gives a message of unity and mutual respect rather than spreading hate.
So Mr. Waseem now it shoud be very clear to you the aim of posting this thread. I hope
How it is irrelevant ? In My opinion it is quite relevant it has islamic touch and it is under islamic corner ,secondly one alim is renowned deobandi alim and other is renowned sunni/barelvi alim.........how a renowned deobandi alim gave respect to Dr. Tahir ul qadri should be an example to all those whose one point agenda is to spread sectarian hatred.
It is a slap of all hate mongers. It gives a message of unity and mutual respect rather than spreading hate.
So Mr. Waseem now it shoud be very clear to you the aim of posting this thread. I hope
Thanks Bro. Abasiali:
Brother we don't come here to take religious lectures, everybody is free to have any faith but if only one particular faith can be criticized but a particular faith cannot be criticized and is considered Holy then this becomes unfair.
If faith is considered as an entity that can be discussed then the rules should be respect and reason.
If somebody can point a finger at me then i have every right to point a finger at him .
I appreciate your effort and i will be waiting to see the response from the concerned moderators
Again thanks for showing your concern bro. abasiali:
My main focus was not against rules, it was against the use of these rules on personal liking and disliking.
why a rule which is applicable on one thread is not applicable on other thread.
I think i don't need to write the whole summary once again. I have already explained in detail , my concerns.
Apart from these proofs there are much more but as i don't have moderators rights i cannot present those before you.
there are a number of post that i have reported which were against rules but no action was taken..............but the worst thing happened was that when i replied to that posts in the same language my posts were deleted on the bases of the violation of the same rule which i reported..........
Any ways thanks for showing your concern
dukelondon
Senator (1k+ posts)
I think we have had enough of this nonsense. Brothers Cheeko, samar, Velia mast and all sunni and shia brothers, we all stand together in this. We will NOT allow Wahabis to use this forum as their Propaganda organ to spread hatred and lies of people like Zakir Naik and Israr Ahmed. We will raise our voice in a peaceful manner. No attacks against Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri or any other personality of our sects will be tolerated. Pakistan is a sunni country and will remain that way. Wahabis are more than welcome to migrate to Saudi Arabia and spread their religion there. Saudi funded religion is NOT welcome in Pakistan. This forum is DEFINITELY NOT the place for calling every other person a Mushrik and accusing him of Biddat and Shirk. If any video or post is posted accusing us of Biddat aur Shirk, we will go after that person. Wahabis have NO RIGHT to accuse us of anything and decide our Jannat/Dozakh.
I_hate_Liars
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Itna khauf wahabioun aur salfioun sey, is ka matlab kuch to dum hai wahabioun aur salfiuon main jubhi sarey sarey key sarey milker ek mahaz bana rahey hain, magar dostoun woh misal to suni hogi aap sub ney, sub mil jao aur ek ghanti bhi khareed lo, magar usey galey maIn bandhey ga kaun, yeh firqoun ki baat kar rahey ho, yeh to apus main hi ek nahi hain, yeh kiya mil ker wahabioun aur sulfion key khilaf koi mahaz banaein gey...
Saboo
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
dear brothers,
I believe we should not discuss religion on these forums, and if we have to, to keep it to a bare minimum. In my opinion, these discussions are taking us further apart instead of uniting us. You see, religion is believing. What you believe is your religion and what I believe is mine. And this believing is so deeply rooted that these discussions are not enough to change this belief. For that we need a lot of research with commitment and dedicaton. Are we doing that? I guess not.
It makes me sad that, with our limited knnowledge, we say bad things about other scholars as Dr. Qadri, Dr.Israr, Zakir Niak or Professor Akhtar who obviously have more knowledge than us. I am sure what they say, they believe in it 100 % from the core of their heart and off course what you are saying, you believe in it too.
We are aleady going 72 ways. Isn't it enough that we stop it right there!
I believe we should not discuss religion on these forums, and if we have to, to keep it to a bare minimum. In my opinion, these discussions are taking us further apart instead of uniting us. You see, religion is believing. What you believe is your religion and what I believe is mine. And this believing is so deeply rooted that these discussions are not enough to change this belief. For that we need a lot of research with commitment and dedicaton. Are we doing that? I guess not.
It makes me sad that, with our limited knnowledge, we say bad things about other scholars as Dr. Qadri, Dr.Israr, Zakir Niak or Professor Akhtar who obviously have more knowledge than us. I am sure what they say, they believe in it 100 % from the core of their heart and off course what you are saying, you believe in it too.
We are aleady going 72 ways. Isn't it enough that we stop it right there!
abbasiali
Minister (2k+ posts)
Dear all participating members, I am happy to announce a decision soon will be announced by team to all in general.
Since siasat.pk is a siasat base website, we are not suppose to permit religious thread in our forum ,but on the contrary despite our several reminders our friends stubbornly keep posted religion base threads, which further converts into sectarian debate, which finally leads to either close or delete. Once team did their job in order to keep forum quite and peaceful, our stubborn members start humiliating team for bias behavior, etc etc....recently one of our member started a thread on same basis, which actually challenge the team to respond their allegations or accept them self as being controversial Moderators. How ever it was a great challenge, which actually lead team toward a great session of "brain storm" This session was very fruitful for team because it made team to think how we can keep a standard of equality without making feel a single member annoyed, I believe no could believe that we could come to a conclusion, which could deliver a positive result.
It is really exiting to keep all Pakistanis under one flag of Pakistan without spreading any sectarian violence, do you all need to know how,
For that you all have to wait for "TEAM" thread in this regard, which will include all rules and regulation......
Initially I am advising you, all Islamic thread will be closed with immediate effect till we will bring out the new guidelines in this regard.
We once again thank to all of our members for their positive contribution to forum.
Since siasat.pk is a siasat base website, we are not suppose to permit religious thread in our forum ,but on the contrary despite our several reminders our friends stubbornly keep posted religion base threads, which further converts into sectarian debate, which finally leads to either close or delete. Once team did their job in order to keep forum quite and peaceful, our stubborn members start humiliating team for bias behavior, etc etc....recently one of our member started a thread on same basis, which actually challenge the team to respond their allegations or accept them self as being controversial Moderators. How ever it was a great challenge, which actually lead team toward a great session of "brain storm" This session was very fruitful for team because it made team to think how we can keep a standard of equality without making feel a single member annoyed, I believe no could believe that we could come to a conclusion, which could deliver a positive result.
It is really exiting to keep all Pakistanis under one flag of Pakistan without spreading any sectarian violence, do you all need to know how,
For that you all have to wait for "TEAM" thread in this regard, which will include all rules and regulation......
Initially I am advising you, all Islamic thread will be closed with immediate effect till we will bring out the new guidelines in this regard.
We once again thank to all of our members for their positive contribution to forum.
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