Ismaili - Agha Khan i - A cult or a sect

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Calling a spade a spade is not spreading hate. By the way Islam is spreading faster day by day.

Are we born just to hate others??? dear we should make our Islam acceptable so people are attracted to our side( if you are aiming for converting people),with such inflammatory words you are simply spreading hate,May Allah guide you ---aamin.Be very careful what you say and think about its outcome.
 

zhohaq

Minister (2k+ posts)
Calling a spade a spade is not spreading hate. By the way Islam is spreading faster day by day.

Its a cult but its doing largely good things. AKDN,AKU,Reral development.
I think we shouldnt poke our noses into other ppl religious ideas as usually what you find out is shocking...

I will ask admin to take this threadh down as Agkahanis are very emotional about Prince Saheb,few of the forum members are definately Agkhanis.......
 
They don't enter new people in their religion( huge sigh of relief that one bad religion is not spreading, eh??), so by default only Ismaelis are one, who are Ismaelis by birth. You cannot convert to Ismaeli sect, like Jews and Hindus. And their role in Pakistan is positive in all means. Agha Khan (Grandfather of current Agha Khan) was one of the founding father of Muslim League in 1906, and it was him who invited Jinnah to join Muslim League and so on. So give little respect to Agha Khan and his Jammat in making of your country, where you proudly pronounce Sunni and only true sect Muslim (Ostrich mindset reflection).
 
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The fact is, Agha Khan like his masters The Jews was searching for a land to rule and make a country for his cult and when Jinnah refused to make Pakistan an Ismaili state , he left the struggle. So no respect for a deserter.

Second similarity between Jews and Agha Khanis is that you are born into the religion and cannot convert.

Finslly, I cannot respect a bald guy who fancies himself as a god and calls himself a walking talking Quran.

They don't enter new people in their religion( huge sigh of relief that one bad religion is not spreading, eh??), so by default only Ismaelis are one, who are Ismaelis by birth. You cannot convert to Ismaeli sect, like Jews and Hindus. And their role in Pakistan is positive in all means. Agha Khan (Grandfather of current Agha Khan) was one of the founding father of Muslim League in 1906, and it was him who invited Jinnah to join Muslim League and so on. So give little respect to Agha Khan and his Jammat in making of your country, where you proudly pronounce Sunni and only true sect Muslim (Ostrich mindset reflection).
 

Researcher

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@Pakole Khi: You might be right about this cult, but it would not be fair to not mention that Sultan Mahmood (Agha Khan 3) had instrumental role in creation of Pakistan and Muslim League.

Sultan Mahmood was one of founding fathers of Muslim League (All India), and was Muslim League's first President from 1906-1912.
 

bhaibarood

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Yes you are the only muslim left on this planet earth ........... congratulations.
LOL![hilar]

sunni musalman nahi
shia musalman nahi
debandi musalman nahi
barelvi musalman nahi
ismaili musalman nahi
bohri musalman nahi
tu bhai kon musalman hai?????????????????
i think hindu and christians are musalman!!!
jis ne kalima parha woh musalman hai baki allah janey aur banda!!!!

ps.mods its a satire so dont flag it !!! i hate sectarianism on forum too!
 

Believer12

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
کیا معلوم وھ اللہ تعالی کی نظر میں تم سے بھتر انسان اور مسلمان ھو۔ آغا خانیے خود کو مسلمان ھی کھتے ھیں اسلیے تمکو کس نے یہ حق دے دیا کہ انکو غیر مسلم کھو؟
وھ تو پھر بھی بھت سارے لوگوں کے علاج اور تعلیم کے حصول میں مددگار ھیں پر تم کیا کر رھے ھو سواے تفرقہ پھیلانے کے۔تم اپنی ریڑھی اٹھاو اور اپنا سڑا ھو مال کھیں اور جا کر بیچو۔
 

QaiserMirza

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How much its true that Aga Khan Education Foundation is responsible the development of curriculum / syllabus for schools in Pakistan ??????
 

A.G.Uddin

Minister (2k+ posts)
As far as I have seen Agha Khanis/Ismailies don't call Prince Karim Aga Khan Nauzubillah a Prophet. He's just a leader of their Madhab or school.And they DO believe in the Finality of Prophethood like all of us.And as per Amman Message they are also considered as Muslims.

http://ammanmessage.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=34

They have some roots or connections with Shia Jafiris or so.And I guess they originated in eitehr Syria or Persia.The picture of Agha Khan with a woman in Bikini is a morphed one as per what they say in their defense,it's his own personal life anyways.Moreover no one can deny contributions by Agha Khan for Pakistan and many other nations.Even the port of Gwadar was gifted by him after he bought it from Sultanate of Oman for $3 million. Plus he also received honorary citizenship of Canada two years back.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=3084925

On YouTube Ismailis per bhi attack hue hain via videos aise mein ek Ismaili sahab ne us Tauseef ur Rehman naami cartoon ko sahi tight jawab dekar expose kiya tha. :lol:Magar ek aur cheez maine notice ki aur woh yeh key Ismailis aur unke leader per attack Ahle Sunnat waloun ne buhat kum lekin Shia scholars aur speakers ne zyada kiye aur unhein Kafir qarar diya.

Agha Khan ka dawa hai key woh Nabi Pakpbuh ki bloodline ya lineage se hain,is daway mein sachai ka sirf Allah SWT ko sahi ilm hai lekin yeh sahab piri faqiri ka pattern zaroor dikhate hain apne followers mein.Khair jo bhi ho,Agha Khan ek powerful aur influential bunda zaroor hai aur inka aur inki community ka Pakistan ko diya contribution koi deny nahi karsakta.
 

digitalzygot1

Minister (2k+ posts)
Very informative I always wondered what were the differences, people who are saying it's spreading hate or minorities will be targeted are just full of ****. Nowhere I see any hate or killing msgs so stop saying everything is a conspiracy against minorities
 

digitalzygot1

Minister (2k+ posts)
I think these pople are scared and they don't want to get exposed/embarassed when it is brought to attention about their practices and they counter that by saying it's hate content/conspiracy just like jews
 
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Wake up Believer. Not all Pakis in Europe are dishwashers. There is a large portion of Pakistani scholars and professionals who are studying and working abroad. They are the by product of Pakistani education

The task of Agha Khan and others like OUP is to alter the syllabus at primary level to produce slaves who would pose no threat to foreign mental domination. A breed of brown Sahib's

We should not leave our education at the hands of kuffar, instead we should focus our efforts and resources to revive the generation we are loosing to apathy of current system

today the syllabus of Pakistani schools could not produce scientists or scholars.
 
It is true that a new board has been formed by the name of "Agha Khan Educational Board" which at the moment is running parallel to existing boards but with the aim of eventually taking over educational system. Agha Khan board and others such as Oxford University Press are tasked with changing the curriculum to speed up the process of converting Pakistani society into a secular state.

These boards run by kuffar will not open up thousands of free schools or distribute millions of free books but rather build a society whose young know more about European history then Islamic History, Study theology first Instead of Islam and more prone to accept western secular ideals then the Islamic Social Ideology.

How much its true that Aga Khan Education Foundation is responsible the development of curriculum / syllabus for schools in Pakistan ??????
 
You have presented a very stupid argument in favour of Agha Khanis. We cannot accept any group as Islamic if they just label themselves as Muslims. If we go by your analogy then Qadiyanis should be declared Muslims as they call themselves Muslims but that is not the case.

Agha Khani fitna is worse then Qadiyaniat as Mirza called himself a prophet but Agha Khan attributes the sifat of Allah Taa'ala to himself

کیا معلوم وھ اللہ تعالی کی نظر میں تم سے بھتر انسان اور مسلمان ھو۔ آغا خانیے خود کو مسلمان ھی کھتے ھیں اسلیے تمکو کس نے یہ حق دے دیا کہ انکو غیر مسلم کھو؟
وھ تو پھر بھی بھت سارے لوگوں کے علاج اور تعلیم کے حصول میں مددگار ھیں پر تم کیا کر رھے ھو سواے تفرقہ پھیلانے کے۔تم اپنی ریڑھی اٹھاو اور اپنا سڑا ھو مال کھیں اور جا کر بیچو۔
 

QaiserMirza

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
It is true that a new board has been formed by the name of "Agha Khan Educational Board" which at the moment is running parallel to existing boards but with the aim of eventually taking over educational system. Agha Khan board and others such as Oxford University Press are tasked with changing the curriculum to speed up the process of converting Pakistani society into a secular state.

These boards run by kuffar will not open up thousands of free schools or distribute millions of free books but rather build a society whose young know more about European history then Islamic History, Study theology first Instead of Islam and more prone to accept western secular ideals then the Islamic Social Ideology.



بھائی اگر آپ نے جو لکھا ہے اگر وہ صحیح ہے تو پھر یہ ایک بہت ہے خطرناک بات ہے
ساری قوم سو رہی ہے اور خوفناک بلا منہ کھولے پوری مسلم قوم کو نگلنے کے لیے تیار ہے
کسی بھی قوم کو اس کے راستے سے ہٹانے کے لیے اس کی آنے والی نسلوں کو بھٹکنا ایک بہت ہر زوداور طریقہ ہے
تصور کریں ، ہماری آئندہ نسل اپنے آباؤ اجداد کی فکر، اقدار ، سوچ ، تمدن ، عقاید اور معاشرے کو یکدم بھلا کر ایک نئے اور غیر نظریے کو اپنانے چلی ہے
ہماری آئندہ نسل کو دین سے بھی بے بہرہ کر دیا جا رہا ہے
کیا یہ سب جانتے ہوے بھی اسے نظر انداز کرنا ہمارے لیے کتنے بڑے عذاب کا شاخسانہ ہوگا
کیا ہم الله کے سامنے اپنے اس رویہ کے لیے جواب دہ نہیں ہونگے
کیا ہم اپنی نسل کے بھٹکنے کے زمیدار نہیں ہونگے

 
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PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
He is also called " Mowlana Hazar Imam".

A modern Mowlana with dangerous strategy against Jihad and islamic values.

Here is the link of PDF available on USAID programm site:

http://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PDACL727.pdf

Please read page 35 and 36 in which Agha Khan University board is recommending to take Jihad and quran Surah out from Islamiat books.

Agha Khan is a deemak which is eating wood from inside.
 
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What you pointed is just the tip of the iceberg. Imagine if we don't check this fitna then what havoc will they create in our society.

First and foremost we must realise who is our friend and who is our foe and that was the reason for my post. We cannot trust a group whose history is full of trachaery and betrayal against Muslims. From helping the British invasion in Afghanistan and Sindh during 1930's to guarding the interests of western masters today.
 
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