Shahid Nama - 25th August 2011- Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sarmad - "Did the 'Two Nation Theory' become irr

[CanadianDesi]

Re: Shahid Nama - 25th August 2011- Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sarmad - "Has the 'Two Nation Theory' become irrelevant?"

The two nation theory does not say that none muslims can not live in a muslim land but they must follow the law of the land which will be based on islamic rules. I dont like ZH but I do agree with him that this is Indian agenda to confuse pakistani nation on two nation theory and creation of Pakistan and specially polute the minds of our youth. SAFMA has a clear agenda and ZH without speaking much made his point very clear.

But today two nation theory is irrelevant today..!!! Try to understand the point !! if u say it is relevant today then Christian or hindus or sikhs or other minorities in Pakistan should have their own free land.. and should not live in pakistan with pakistanis.

 

[rashiid]

The RAW Funded Nexus In Pakistani Media-SAFMA Exposed! (Detailed Report)

Yesterday on 25 Aug 2011, The program Shahidnama that was shown which completely exposed the true agenda of Aman ki Asha initiators and SAFMA.
The debate was between SAFMA, Aman ki Asha and UNDP Official Marvi Sirmed and the defence analyst Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid.
Zaid Hamid as usual was defending Pakistans ideology, but the extreme hatred of these SAFMA officials towards Zaid Hamid showed its true color. It is no that they hate him for some personal reason, it is completely an ideological clash, the ideology which is the root of the creation of Pakistan and on which every true Pakistani should believe in. The name of that ideology is two-nation theory.

The link to the above mentioned program is:

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Part 4

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Kindly read further only after watching the program, These SAFMA journalists have used very bad and unethical words for Zaid Hamid in their articles and TV programs!

The name of the lady in the above program is Marvi Sermid and she is in the field of journalism from the early 1990s . She has worked for many newspapers including The News, Jang and Khabrain etc!
She is the project manager of UNDP in Pakistan and representative of SAFMA
Apart from the above given program, her other views are even more controversial and she has been wandering in our beloved country without we even knowing. We should at least thanks Zaid Hamid for bringing us the filthy reality of these RAW backed journalists even if some of us may be against him!
Now, we will post some substantial evidence against Marvi Sermid, which will be enough even to get her HANGED according to Pakistan Penal Code.
In a program, she is Supporting gays and lesbians in this program, Click Here
At another place this lady is trying to justify the detention of Aafia Siddiqui and the release of the killer Raymond Davis, Click Here to watch

Miss Marvi Sirmed shamelessly called Muhammad Ali Jinnah , a secular person while check this article, Click here In this artcile you will get enough evidence that Quaid-e-Azam was not at all secular!

Do you want any more proof that they funded and backed by RAW? But wait we have more to share with you!
About 3 years ago, India did the Mumbai drama to defame Pakistan in the international community and prove that they are supporting the terrorist. All the fifth columnist media outlets and person supported the Indian stance and SAFMA is one of them!
Click Here to see their stance on Mumbai Attacks
The tone of SAFMA is completely against Pakistan, they are worried about terrorism in Mumbai, but millions of Kashmiris have been killed and raped over the last 64 years but they dont utter a single word about it !!
From who can we expect such behaviour? Obviously RAW agents!!
Even the Jammu & Kashmir based newspapers have questioned the silence of SAFMA about the Kashmir issue Click Here!
Silence about Kashmir, but talking about the insurgency in Balochistan, which has been proved to be backed by RAW
Every trues Pakistan is against US and the OBL drama that happened but SAFMA is completely on the other side Click Here to see the stance of SAFMA in detail
SAFMAs president Aroosa Alam who is a muslim and had a love affair with a sikh and former Chief minister of Indian Punjab Mr. Amarinder Singh! This is enough to tell you how much filthy people are chosen to be the president of SAFMA. For details Click Here
Ahmed Quraishi who is widely known for his patriotic journalism says about SAFMA on his facebook profile:

SAFMA is a platform for a minority of defeatist-minded Pakistanis who revel in anti-Pakistanism. Dr. Shahid Masoods interview tonight with a SAFMA member has confirmed this group is an Indian implant. There should be a law against working for & receiving undeclared funds from foreign govts.

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Kindly also give a read to the following article written by Ahmed Quraishi
Click Here
watch this video Click Here
A ceremony organized by SAFMA in the Sindh Assembly Premesis turns into a dance party where renowed personalities of Pakistani politics can be seen dancing with Indian women. he Deputy Speaker of Sindh Assembly Raheela Twana, who was the office bearer of Pakistan Government, Haroon Farooqui, who was the President of Karachi Chamber of Commerce and other well-known personalities can be seen dancing on the beats of Indian song within the premises of Sindh Assembly Karachi.
Click Here to see another video in which SAFMA is shamelessly supporting Indo-Pak friendship while millions in Kashmir have bee killed and raped!
If all this evidence is not enough, Please take a look at this , Click here
SAFMA is talking about lifting the ban on Facebook when it was banned for showing the blasphemous caricatures of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.W)
The complete article is self-explanatory but this is not it, we will bring more substantial evidence, very soon, inshAllah!
Stay Tuned with us.
Hamey hai hukm-e-azaan
La ilaha ilallah !
Written By: Faraan Khan

 

[ahmadalikhan]

Re: The RAW Funded Nexus In Pakistani Media-SAFMA Exposed! (Detailed Report)

Read the first 2 lines of Abdul Qadir Hassan Article

 

[CanadianDesi]

Re: Shahid Nama - 25th August 2011- Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sarmad - "Has the 'Two Nation Theory' become irrelevant?"

I dont think Dr shahid is baised. Dont you think he is the one who gave the chance to ZH to explain his position and in most of the program he was silent or shocked I must say. Good job Dr Shahid only you can do such a program. This program made many faces uncovered and show people the real faces in our media. I kind of liked Nusrat Javed but after hearing all this I dont like him anymore. The people who opposes the two nation theory are actually opposes the very creation of Pakistan. The lady also destroyed the image of Iqbal and Jinah. She was so much defending indian point of view I think this program can clearly be a proof in the court of law.

shahid masood is total baised to marvi and she is an indian *****...zahid hamid didn`t need to express his concerns over her she showed herself as indian agent

 

[Mohan Tiwari]

Re: Shahid Nama with Dr Shahid Masood - 25th August 2011 - Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sarmad

Check this out...It was reported by Indian media where Rahul Gandhi believes that the growth of hindu extremists is the biggest danger to India...Is Rahul an ISI agent now as well..LOL...:lol:
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/w...s-bigger-threat-than-muslim-militants/726009/

Marvi, if you and your safma buddies get some free time from trying to destroy pakistan's ideology, maybe you can look into why Tahul believes that...or is your policy to focus on Islamic extremists only?

Indian media is too leftist...have u ever heard any one supporting hindutva in india?

mere support of hindutva makes us terrorist.....indian media is overhyped about rise of hindu extremism..it was hindus who caught some people who were involved in terror activity......its like a drop in ocean..have u ever heard being involved in suicide?
Hinduism is one of the most tolerant religion and it has allowed every other religions to blossom in india..........remember that there are 1 billion (99 crore )hindus in india but majority of them are tolerant about religion..

 

[Paki01]

Re: Shahid Nama - 25th August 2011- Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sarmad - "Has the 'Two Nation Theory' become irrelevant?"

But today two nation theory is irrelevant today..!!! Try to understand the point !! if u say it is relevant today then Christian or hindus or sikhs or other minorities in Pakistan should have their own free land.. and should not live in pakistan with pakistanis.

That is not what two nation theory is about. It does not mean that no other religion can co exist under Islamic government. Two nation theroy is that Islamic state cannot be established under a non islamic government which would have been the case if Pakistan did not come to existance. It is unfortunate that Pakistan did not become the Islamic state that it was ment to be. Islam gives protection to non muslim communities and they have equal right if not more to practice their believes freely in an Islamic state. Sir Sayed Ahmad khan was the first to mention two nation theory. Illama Iqbal had the same idea and Quid-e-Azam made it happen. Pakistan was ment to be Islamic state not secular or the type of democracy there is today where certain families decide to run for election and who ever can cast more votes in their favour wins. Candidates should be elected by people too. It should now be a personal decision to fight election because it is good business.

 

[Humi]

Re: Shahid Nama with Dr Shahid Masood - 25th August 2011 - Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sarmad

Indian media is too leftist...have u ever heard any one supporting hindutva in india?

mere support of hindutva makes us terrorist.....indian media is overhyped about rise of hindu extremism..it was hindus who caught some people who were involved in terror activity......its like a drop in ocean..have u ever heard being involved in suicide?
Hinduism is one of the most tolerant religion and it has allowed every other religions to blossom in india..........remember that there are 1 billion (99 crore )hindus in india but majority of them are tolerant about religion..

yeah, you are very tolerant...just like you were in Gujarat riots in 1984 with sikhs and when you burned christians...and you are extra tolerant with you dalits/untouchable cast..(clap)

 

[Mohan Tiwari]

Re: Shahid Nama with Dr Shahid Masood - 25th August 2011 - Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sarmad

yeah, you are very tolerant...just like you were in Gujarat riots in 1984 with sikhs and when you burned christians...and you are extra tolerant with you dalits/untouchable cast..(clap)

didnt britain,usa,or any developed country have riots ?they are western country ,developed and still face riots..but being a county of 1.21 billion people we face less ethnic riots,clashes than all our neighbors combined..
Sikhs riots were aftermath of indira murder by a radical sikh body guard......similary gujrat riots were aftermath of burning of 100 RSS workers in train by some radical youth ;belonging to a particular religion..............

State govt were in efficient in both the cases and such cases have not been repeated in india since then.............

Dalits are getting 22.5% reservation in jobs,education !they are being uplifted in every field of life..........

 

[abdul kabeer]

Re: The RAW Funded Nexus In Pakistani Media-SAFMA Exposed! (Detailed Report)

Asalamoalaikum
Jub sa ya programme daikha ha aik pal bhi sakoon nahin raha. ya sooch ka ya media pakistan ko kahan lay jana chahta ha. Aj shahid masood sahab ka samnay aik hindu aurat pakistan ki idealogy ko rubbish kah gai, zaisd hamid ka " astaghphirullah " kahnay ko khurafat kah dia. Quran ka alfaz ki khulay aam insult kar gai. aur ham ya sab daikh rahay hain. hum khud ko libral zahir karnay ka liya kia kuch nahin kar rahay. yahan tuk ka ab qanoon-e- Qudrat sa bhi larai par utar aye hain. Mujhay ya baat samajh nahin aatee ka agar hum quran ko dil sa akhri kitab mantay hain, hum Allah ko apna rab jantay hain phir Allah ka qanoon ko kion nahin mantay. hum ya batanay ka liya ka hum sab ki kitnay open dil ka saath suntay hain, hum apnay mazhab aur Pakistan ki asas par bhi sab kuch sun rahay hain. Ya qom apni man ki gali par dosray ka munh tor daiti ha laikn jis mulk ka khati ha, jis mulk main rahti ha, jo us ki pahchan ha us par itni kari zarb khamoosh tamashai ban kar baith gai ha. kion?
Khuda ka liya azadi ka namm par itna agay mat jain ka, Allah ko apni hadain tornay walon par wo azab nazil karna paray jo hum sa pahlay qomon par hoa. Aur Allah ka azab phir bohot dard nak ha.

 

[azrana]

lol topi wala bander, that,s true, and she is speaking with sence, and with out american help, or add they couldnt go to bath room

like today, they lift the osama from there home, and no body knows, ,, , yeah woh log hain jo dollers key badley apney ghar key
logon ko baich daitey hain, kuch din pehley yeah paraha tha main ney, yeah,, aur such hi lagta hey,

 

[pakiace]

Re: The RAW Funded Nexus In Pakistani Media-SAFMA Exposed! (Detailed Report)

brilliant brilliant brilliant - keep exposing this claptrap safma till we take it down!!!

Brilliant compilation sir - salute

 

[Muhammad Ikhlaq Siddiqui]

Re: Shahid Nama - 25th August 2011- Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sarmad - "Has the 'Two Nation Theory' become irrelevant?"

The two nation theory does not say that none muslims can not live in a muslim land but they must follow the law of the land which will be based on islamic rules. I dont like ZH but I do agree with him that this is Indian agenda to confuse pakistani nation on two nation theory and creation of Pakistan and specially polute the minds of our youth. SAFMA has a clear agenda and ZH without speaking much made his point very clear.

There are almost 160 million muslims living in pakistan and almost 180 million muslims living in india and 140 million muslims are living in Bengladesh!!!!Two nation theory means that the muslims of subcontinent must have their separate home land and Hindus have their separate homeland and other minorities have the choice to live wherever they want..!!!now where does the two nation theory apply... to 160 millions muslims of pakistan or to 180 millions muslim of india or 140 million muslims of Bengladesh... It was relevant before 1947 in subcontinent but now it is now more relevant simply....! but it doesn't mean k borders khatam kr deny chahiye but it simply means that india, pakistan, bangladesh etc should live like EU countries are living now..larrnay k bjaye...Developemnt ki trf twaja dain..Akhir Sari EU states ny b to saddiyon ki dushmaniyan khatam kr k apnay apnay borders k ander rehty huey achay relations bna hi liye na...to ham kb tk lrrty rhain gy..!!!

 

[Humi]

Re: Shahid Nama with Dr Shahid Masood - 25th August 2011 - Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sarmad

didnt britain,usa,or any developed country have riots ?they are western country ,developed and still face riots..but being a county of 1.21 billion people we face less ethnic riots,clashes than all our neighbors combined..
Sikhs riots were aftermath of indira murder by a radical sikh body guard......similary gujrat riots were aftermath of burning of 100 RSS workers in train by some radical youth ;belonging to a particular religion..............

State govt were in efficient in both the cases and such cases have not been repeated in india since then.............

Dalits are getting 22.5% reservation in jobs,education !they are being uplifted in every field of life..........

so one sikh killed Indira Gandi, that means the massacre and rape of sikhs by Indian army was acceptable?

Yes, its a good step that the government is taking, but search for recent studies done by any independent researches and you will still find untouchables being significantly mistreated...

ok, fine..lets agree that its a small fraction of extremists in India who are involved in all of this...that is true in Pakistan as well..so kindly dont apply double standards here and say that a small group was involved in India which was hyped by media and come to our forums and tell us that all of us are involved in extremism in Pakistan and the media doesnt overhype that..its a small minority here as well..

 

[Humi]

Re: Shahid Nama - 25th August 2011- Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sarmad - "Has the 'Two Nation Theory' become irrelevant?"

There are almost 160 million muslims living in pakistan and almost 180 million muslims living in india and 140 million muslims are living in Bengladesh!!!!Two nation theory means that the muslims of subcontinent must have their separate home land and Hindus have their separate homeland and other minorities have the choice to live wherever they want..!!!now where does the two nation theory apply... to 160 millions muslims of pakistan or to 180 millions muslim of india or 140 million muslims of Bengladesh... It was relevant before 1947 in subcontinent but now it is now more relevant simply....! but it doesn't mean k borders khatam kr deny chahiye but it simply means that india, pakistan, bangladesh etc should live like EU countries are living now..larrnay k bjaye...Developemnt ki trf twaja dain..Akhir Sari EU states ny b to saddiyon ki dushmaniyan khatam kr k apnay apnay borders k ander rehty huey achay relations bna hi liye na...to ham kb tk lrrty rhain gy..!!!

You can still be two different nations and be involved in trade and development..China and Pakistan are not one nation but we have excellent relations..the issue is that we are different and Pakistan was made for an islamic system, not a democracy like it is in India..that is the basis of the two nation theory...

 

[gazoomartian]

Re: The RAW Funded Nexus In Pakistani Media-SAFMA Exposed! (Detailed Report)

thank you for the posts. very disturbing situation

 

[garry317]

Re: The RAW Funded Nexus In Pakistani Media-SAFMA Exposed! (Detailed Report)

maja aagya video dekh kar

 

[lovely_pk]

Re: The RAW Funded Nexus In Pakistani Media-SAFMA Exposed! (Detailed Report)

ISI going to take any action against these enemies of Pakistan? or we should wait for another qadri to handle the "SAFMA" bit*hes....

 

[lovely_pk]

Re: The RAW Funded Nexus In Pakistani Media-SAFMA Exposed! (Detailed Report)

maja aagya video dekh kar

Sahram tum kai atei nahee hai... Tum hare intelligence agency kai bhondai phoot gaya and now we know who are on RAW Payroll in Pakistan..... I am not sure you should celebrate this or not?

 

[Keepinformed]

Anyone supporting Zahid Hamid on this forum is a CIA paid Double Agent Kafirs who are working against the interests of Pakistan. We need to come out and shoot them down one by one...


Now you know how ridiculous it sounds when someone just says crap without any context. Point is emotionalism and their preachers stem from poverty and their target audience is unemployed or financially stress youth.

I bet anyone on this forum who either has had decent upbringing OR has no money issues does not give a crap about this guy and anyone who is struggling financially or career wise in his or her life OR has other social problems involving his or her family would support this guy.

Its the battle of economics nothing else. If you give 5 million rupees to EVERY pakistani alive or 18 crore of them...all terrorism and crime related problems in the country would disappear along with the mullahs!

 

[garry317]

Re: The RAW Funded Nexus In Pakistani Media-SAFMA Exposed! (Detailed Report)

Sahram tum kai atei nahee hai... Tum hare intelligence agency kai bhondai phoot gaya and now we know who are on RAW Payroll in Pakistan..... I am not sure you should celebrate this or not?

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