hans

Banned
Re: Message To LOST Pakistani Nation - Dr.Israr Ahmed (Late)

After all some one agrees that Pakistan has lost its bearing.
How come Dr Israr says this ... its all Baha'ullah.

If the same thing is said by a commoner ..... he is labeled as a RAW agent.
What Hypocrisy we indulge in.
 

Bret Hawk

Senator (1k+ posts)
Allama Iqbal & Holy Quran: A Classical Discourse from Dr Israr Ahmed & Dr Javed Iqbal

The pearls of wisdom which can be distinguishably detected in the works of the great Allama Iqbal are nothing but the intellectual and spiritual endeavours of that great erudite scholar and mystic of modern times, who had extracted those precious pearls from the depths of an imposing ocean of divine knowledge and wisdom, The Holy Quran. The objective and subjective modes of Iqbal’s thought has been discussed at some length in this marvellous discussion by the renowned scholars of Pakistan, the late Dr Israr Ahmed and Dr Justice Retd Javed Iqbal in this classic presentation of a private TV channel some years ago.


Part I



Part II



Part III



Part IV



Part V



Part VI



Last Part





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Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Allama Iqbal & Holy Quran: A Classical Discourse from Dr Israr Ahmed & Dr Javed Iqbal

:jazak: for such an inspirational sharing in the age of deception and ideological onslaught.
 

Doctorplato

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Allama Iqbal & Holy Quran: A Classical Discourse from Dr Israr Ahmed & Dr Javed Iqbal

Associating Iqbal with Pakistan or mullahs like Israr Ahmad, is like depriving him of his universal appeal. The original Iqbal was a very different person than the one presented to us by our mullahs and muslim-leagui ideologues. Iqbal if comes today wont't recognise his own philosophy the way it is presented by these mullahs.
 

KK YASIR

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Allama Iqbal & Holy Quran: A Classical Discourse from Dr Israr Ahmed & Dr Javed Iqbal

JazakAllah Allah Talah Israr Ahmed Sahab k Darjaat buland farmiyeeee.. ..... Ameen
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Allama Iqbal & Holy Quran: A Classical Discourse from Dr Israr Ahmed & Dr Javed Iqbal

Is it for watching and listening ???

So long videos.... What mistake we have done ???:lol:
 

Doctorplato

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Allama Iqbal & Holy Quran: A Classical Discourse from Dr Israr Ahmed & Dr Javed Iqbal

Mullah farigh rehten hain...Taqreeron ki ilawa tu inka koi kaam nahi...Khanaa peena muft milta hai...tu lambi taqreeren tu karenge![QUOTE=Raaz;524804]Is it for watching and listening ???

So long videos.... What mistake we have done ???:lol:[/QUOTE]
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Allama Iqbal & Holy Quran: A Classical Discourse from Dr Israr Ahmed & Dr Javed Iqbal

Mullah farigh rehten hain...Taqreeron ki ilawa tu inka koi kaam nahi...Khanaa peena muft milta hai...tu lambi taqreeren tu karenge!

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Doctorplato

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Allama Iqbal & Holy Quran: A Classical Discourse from Dr Israr Ahmed & Dr Javed Iqbal

Haha ye purani baten hain....wo mera bhee khalifa thaa...lekin mujhe ye batao musalmano ke pehlay khalifa se le kar akhri tak kitne apni maut faut hoye hai awr kitno ko musalman bhaiyon ne hi maraa hai? Jab khaleefa hatane ka koi jamhori tareeqa na ho tu yahi hota hai...yahi hamari tareekh hai ke topi banane walay bee maray jate hain awr shaan se rehne walay bee lekin ham tareekh se sabaq nahi seekhte awr distorted maazi mai rehte hain"

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atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Allama Iqbal & Holy Quran: A Classical Discourse from Dr Israr Ahmed & Dr Javed Iqbal

Haha ye purani baten hain....wo mera bhee khalifa thaa...lekin mujhe ye batao musalmano ke pehlay khalifa se le kar akhri tak kitne apni maut faut hoye hai awr kitno ko musalman bhaiyon ne hi maraa hai? Jab khaleefa hatane ka koi jamhori tareeqa na ho tu yahi hota hai...yahi hamari tareekh hai ke topi banane walay bee maray jate hain awr shaan se rehne walay bee lekin ham tareekh se sabaq nahi seekhte awr distorted maazi mai rehte hain"

اگر وہ تمھارے خلیفہ ہوتے تم ان کی طرف انگلی نہیں اٹھا رہے ہوتے. اللہ کے نبی قتل ہو گۓ تو کیا نبوت ناکام ہو گئی. خلیفہ تو عام انسان ہے. امت میں جب بھی فتنہ کھڑا کیا جاتا ہے سب سے پہلے اسلاف کو نشانہ بنایا جاتا ہے. قادیانی بھی وہی کر رہے ہیں.

مسلمان خلفا نے خلافت قائم کی - اللہ کی زمین پر اللہ کے قانون کا نفاذ. قادیانیوں کے کتنے خلیفوں نے ایسا کیا یا کبھی ایسا ارادہ کیا

ابراہم لنکن، کینیڈی، اندرا و راجیو گاہندھی اور کتنے ہی جمہوری طریقے سے منتخب قتل کئے گۓ. خاندانی وارثت اور جمہوریت میں فرق کرنا سیکھو. بھائیوں بیٹوں
نے بندر بانٹ کی ہوئی ہے نام خلافت کا بد نام کیا ہوا ہے

 

Doctorplato

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Allama Iqbal & Holy Quran: A Classical Discourse from Dr Israr Ahmed & Dr Javed Iqbal

Haha again 'Qadyanion se nafrat ap ke band dimagh mai aisa ghusa hoa hai ke har banda jo ap se ikhtilaaf kare wo ap ko Qadyani nazar ataa hai...What non-sense thinking... Remember jab tak musalman jamhooriat qabool nahi karengi jo ke ain Islami nazria hai...os wqt tak ghulami ki zanjeeron mai jhakre rahoge....khilafat awr kuch be nahi sirf mulla-ibne-mullah-ibne-mullah ki hakoomat hai...Insan azaad paida hoa hai awr ap ki so-called khilafat ghulami ka dosra naam hai...is liye ye kabhi insan ko qabile qabool nahi hosakta...ap ki khilafat ka namoona ham ne Afghanistan awr Swat mai dekh liyaa...to hell with all those who do not know what Islam is and call others kafirs!
اگر وہ تمھارے خلیفہ ہوتے تم ان کی طرف انگلی نہیں اٹھا رہے ہوتے. اللہ کے نبی قتل ہو گۓ تو کیا نبوت ناکام ہو گئی. خلیفہ تو عام انسان ہے. امت میں جب بھی فتنہ کھڑا کیا جاتا ہے سب سے پہلے اسلاف کو نشانہ بنایا جاتا ہے. قادیانی بھی وہی کر رہے ہیں.

مسلمان خلفا نے خلافت قائم کی - اللہ کی زمین پر اللہ کے قانون کا نفاذ. قادیانیوں کے کتنے خلیفوں نے ایسا کیا یا کبھی ایسا ارادہ کیا

ابراہم لنکن، کینیڈی، اندرا و راجیو گاہندھی اور کتنے ہی جمہوری طریقے سے منتخب قتل کئے گۓ. خاندانی وارثت اور جمہوریت میں فرق کرنا سیکھو. بھائیوں بیٹوں
نے بندر بانٹ کی ہوئی ہے نام خلافت کا بد نام کیا ہوا ہے

 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Allama Iqbal & Holy Quran: A Classical Discourse from Dr Israr Ahmed & Dr Javed Iqbal

People say and People accept also the validity of Quran, but chilling is that
when it comes to "Practicality" or "Applicability", then We are Zero. Few examples. Allah(SWT)
commands that:

a) Whenever ye divorce a lady, do not get back from her anything which has been given
be it a heap of gold; (In practical terms it is non-existent, rather everything of her own
is snatched or grabbed);

b) write it down whenever you make transaction, it is more worthy and very good for
testimony (In practical terms, we say, that "you do not have confidence on me, asking
me to write down that you are giving me 200,000 etc...);

c) be firm in the matter of Justice, be it a matter of poor, or rich, near of kin or a stranger,
king or ordinary people, (In practical terms, a telephone to Justice Qayyum by CM of Punjab
plus advocates of High Courts and Supreme Court do ensure that this command is not
implemented);

d) Give inheritance to Girls (in practical terms we say "their marriage has been arranged
and lot of expenditure incurred", the division will only be among sons, perhaps a minor
fraction of society may be implementing it, but for sure 95 percent do not)

e) read, understand and implement Quran, (Our ex-education Minister Zubedia Jalal
on a call from State Department substitutes the Sura from Text or school books);

List can be very long. But Bret Hawk Brother thanks for sharing video.
 

ahmadalikhan

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Allama Iqbal & Holy Quran: A Classical Discourse from Dr Israr Ahmed & Dr Javed Iqbal

MashaAllah thanks

here is one famous couplet of Allama Iqbal from book Baal-e-Jibreel about How to read Quran

4.GIF
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Allama Iqbal & Holy Quran: A Classical Discourse from Dr Israr Ahmed & Dr Javed Iqbal

Haha again 'Qadyanion se nafrat ap ke band dimagh mai aisa ghusa hoa hai ke har banda jo ap se ikhtilaaf kare wo ap ko Qadyani nazar ataa hai...What non-sense thinking... Remember jab tak musalman jamhooriat qabool nahi karengi jo ke ain Islami nazria hai...os wqt tak ghulami ki zanjeeron mai jhakre rahoge....khilafat awr kuch be nahi sirf mulla-ibne-mullah-ibne-mullah ki hakoomat hai...Insan azaad paida hoa hai awr ap ki so-called khilafat ghulami ka dosra naam hai...is liye ye kabhi insan ko qabile qabool nahi hosakta...ap ki khilafat ka namoona ham ne Afghanistan awr Swat mai dekh liyaa...to hell with all those who do not know what Islam is and call others kafirs!

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siasihero

Voter (50+ posts)
Tribute to Sheikh Israr Ahmed (Rahimahullah)

Scholar describing Great Scholar, Although they have big difference of opinion in some matters.
This is the real beauty of Islam.
Allahuma habib ilainal iman wazayenho fe qulobena .Ameen

 
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