Zaid Hamid & Imran R. Khan Declared Shame of Youtube: The Jewish Chronicle

arifkarim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
No Israel was formed on European guilt and jewish violence. I dunno maybe being an Ahmadi, a prosecuted minority you feel some kind bond with Israel since you think they are in a similar boat and or maybe also because it is a safe haven for you Ahmadis because Israel supports them or no other reason other than to tick off Muslims.
I am not Ahmadi nor Jew. Zionism has a 2000 year long history. For 2000 years Jews have been yearning to return back to their foundation place in Jerusalem. They only tried that with full force post 1848 and succeeded in 1948 hundred years later
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Zionism
 

arifkarim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
So what do you suggest the Palestinians do? Hence my term death by a 1000 cuts. Soon they will say its impractical to expect Jewish settlers to give up their homes, so the Palestinians should accept realities.
There is two state solution and one state solution. Both are complicated to implement.
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
I am not Ahmadi nor Jew. Zionism has a 2000 year long history. For 2000 years Jews have been yearning to return back to their foundation place in Jerusalem. They only tried that with full force post 1848 and succeeded in 1948 hundred years later
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Zionism
Well I'll take your word for it, some in the past have tried to act smart and say I'm not qaidiani ( what they were really saying is I'm an Ahmadi and I do not accept nor identify with the slur qaidiani )

And like I sad I have no issue with the jews having their homeland, but that doesn't not give them the right to steal others land, just because Yahweh said so in the Torah. What they fail to understand an old religious text is not a legal document or deed to Palestine.
 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
There is two state solution and one state solution. Both are complicated to implement.
Obviously, but the Israelis have to realise that controlling America through AIPAC worked for it's time but nothing lasts forever. In the Social media age they can't hide the anti semitism to shut down a legitimate debate.
 

arifkarim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Well I'll take your word for it, some in the past have tried to act smart and say I'm not qaidiani ( what they were really saying is I'm an Ahmadi and I do not accept nor identify with the slur qaidiani )
Ok I am not Ahmadi as well. Happy now?
 

arifkarim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
And like I sad I have no issue with the jews having their homeland, but that doesn't not give them the right to steal others land, just because Yahweh said so in the Torah. What they fail to understand an old religious text is not a legal document or deed to Palestine.
True. Israeli settlements in occupied Palestine are illegal as per international law
 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
18 percent of Israelis are Muslims. Where should they go? They only have Israeli citizenship. As for Palestinians they can always seek peace agreement with Israel and end all wars.
Who is denying that, I am not sure what your point is. Do you believe that the Israelis will give the West Bank back? No chance. There is denying that jews are clever people but history has shown that you can be too clever for your own good. Hitler felt that the Reich would last a 1000 years, that didn't end well.
 

A.jokhio

Minister (2k+ posts)
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Pakistan is proud of them...
 

arifkarim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Who is denying that, I am not sure what your point is. Do you believe that the Israelis will give the West Bank back? No chance. There is denying that jews are clever people but history has shown that you can be too clever for your own good. Hitler felt that the Reich would last a 1000 years, that didn't end well.
Israelis want to keep big settlements but rest can be returned to Palestinians. Israel has agreed to compensate loss of land by giving Palestinians equal amount from elsewhere. This was last offered in 2008


Stubborn Palestinians rejected it
 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Israelis want to keep big settlements but rest can be returned to Palestinians. Israel has agreed to compensate loss of land by giving Palestinians equal amount from elsewhere. This was last offered in 2008


Stubborn Palestinians rejected it
Why should they be allowed to keep any, afterall you can't steal someone's belonging and then negotiate giving some back. Go back to the pre 67 borders and you have the basis of settlement
 

arifkarim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Why should they be allowed to keep any, afterall you can't steal someone's belonging and then negotiate giving some back. Go back to the pre 67 borders and you have the basis of settlement
67 borders is a good start but Israel argue it needs some land in West Bank for security purposes and for religious Jewish settlements. It is willing to give same amount of land to Palestinians from its own territory (check the map above) so Palestinians won't be losing total amount of land
 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
67 borders is a good start but Israel argue it needs some land in West Bank for security purposes and for religious Jewish settlements. It is willing to give same amount of land to Palestinians from its own territory (check the map above) so Palestinians won't be losing total amount of land
Israel has Nuclear weapons and the strongest army in the region backed up by every weapon known to man. That reason has about much credibility as AZ and NS claiming to be PKs most honest people