عمران خان اور ذوالفقار علی بھٹو کا موازنہ نہیں کیا جا سکتا ۔ نفیسہ شاہ

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
مری ریسٹ ہاؤس میں یہ بات اس نے سیکیورٹی انچارج شائد کوئی کرنل عابد اور جنرل ضیا کے اے ڈی سی کرنل بعد میں بریگیڈیر ظہیر ملک کے سامنے کی تھی انکی کی موجودگی میں جنرل ضیا کو مخاطب کرکے کہا تھا اسکی موجودگی میں کہا تھا کہ سور کے بچے جنرل زیادہ ہیں اور چوک کم۔ اور جنرل ضیا کو کہا کہ تمئاری مونچھوں کے تسمے بنا کر اپنے جوتوں میں ڈالوں ملک ظہیر یا وہ کرنل ابھی زندہ ہونگے ملک ظہیر شاید جنرل سے ریٹائرڈ ہوئے تھے اور یہ میجر غلام حسن مرحوم کے بیٹے تھے ان سے تصدیق کرلیں جرنیلو ں کو سور کے بچے کہا تھا ویسے بھی وہ اکثر غصہ میں سور کے بچہ ہر ایک کو کہا کرتا تھا
R u saying he was punished to disclose this state secret?
 

AbbuJee

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Yes there is NO comparison:

  • Bhutto was a dictator (First Civil Marshal Law Administrator)
  • Bhutto called Bangalis "Pig"
  • Bhutto was son of Ayub Khan called him DADDY
  • Bhutto had terrible policies (Nationalization ruined Pakistan Economy for years to come)
  • Bhutto deceived innocent people with "ROTI KAPRA AUR MAKAAN" and never did anything to actually achieve that goal.
  • Bhutto was a blackmailer ( First person to keep files of opponents to blackmail them)

So she is absolutly right on that there.
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Bhutto played the main role.GHQ was at fault too but Bhutto refused to talk to Mujeeb.
ZAB was pawn of GHQ. General Yahyah wanted to continue as a president of Pakistan which Awami league rejected.
In today's time, General Bajwa is playing game and opposition is it pawn. Everyone blaming opposition leader who have no control and no one talking about Gen Bajwa who wanted another extension?
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Yes there is NO comparison:

  • Bhutto was a dictator (First Civil Marshal Law Administrator)
  • Bhutto called Bangalis "Pig"
  • Bhutto was son of Ayub Khan called him DADDY
  • Bhutto had terrible policies (Nationalization ruined Pakistan Economy for years to come)
  • Bhutto deceived innocent people with "ROTI KAPRA AUR MAKAAN" and never did anything to actually achieve that goal.
  • Bhutto was a blackmailer ( First person to keep files of opponents to blackmail them)

So she is absolutly right on that there.
Alhamdu Lillah he was also trained by GHQ and Gen Yahyah was president of Pakistan at the time of fall of east Pakistan and it was GHQ who made ZAB civilian Martial Law Administrator.
 

taban

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
بھٹو کا موازنہ کرنے کے لئے ملک توڑنا پڑتا ہے ادھر تم ادھر ہم کہنا پڑتا ہے جرنیلوں کو سور کے بچے کہنا پڑتا ہے اور یہ کہنا پڑتا ہے کہ یہ سور کے بچے جرنیل زیادہ ہیں پنڈی کے چوک کم ہیں تو باقی جرنیلوں کو پھانسی دینے کے بعد کونسے چوک میں لٹکاؤں گا۔ کہنا پڑتا ہے کہ جنرل ضیا کی مونچھوں کے تسمے بنا کر اپنے جوتے میں ڈالوں گا کہنا پڑتا ہے جو ڈھاکہ جائے گا اسکی ٹانگیں توڑ دینگے۔ جو جائے ون وے ٹکٹ لے کر جائے
یہ کالی مثلی شاہنی میراثی صحیح بھونک رہی ہے
ایوب خان کو ڈیڈی بھی کہنا پڑتا ہے
 

AbbuJee

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Alhamdu Lillah he was also trained by GHQ and Gen Yahyah was president of Pakistan at the time of fall of east Pakistan and it was GHQ who made ZAB civilian Martial Law Administrator.
Exactly my point! He was SON of Ayub Khan that means he was just like Nawaz Sharif, Marhsal Law ki paidawaar.
 

samisam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
R u saying he was punished to disclose this state secret?
آپ کا مطلب ہے سور کا بچہ سٹیٹ سیکرٹ تھا جو اس نے سب کو بتا دیا یہ تو جنرل چشتی ہی بتا سکے گا جو ابھی زندہ ہے
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Exactly my point! He was SON of Ayub Khan that means he was just like Nawaz Sharif, Marhsal Law ki paidawaar.
The difference between ZAB and Nawaz is that one was feudal lord and other was from a business family. Feudal never knows his limit while businessman knows it that's why ZAB is hanged and not Nawaz despite Nawaz crossed line many times to challenge his creators.
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
آپ کا مطلب ہے سور کا بچہ سٹیٹ سیکرٹ تھا جو اس نے سب کو بتا دیا یہ تو جنرل چشتی ہی بتا سکے گا جو ابھی زندہ ہے
Yes during 70s it was but now its open secret.
 

AbbuJee

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The difference between ZAB and Nawaz is that one was feudal lord and other was from a business family. Feudal never knows his limit while businessman knows it that's why ZAB is hanged and not Nawaz despite Nawaz crossed line many times to challenge his creators.
Agreed!!
 

akinternational

Minister (2k+ posts)
aap to ghundi aur badtameez hain.... T M Khan men presiding officer ko thappar mara tha... lekinye baat ap ne sahih kahi hai... BHUTTO GHADDAR KA IMRAN KHAN JAISE WATN PARAST SE KOI MUQABLA NAHIN....
 

Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
کیا یہ محترمہ چند دن خاموش نہیں رہ سکتیں ، خواہ مخواہ کود پڑی رہی ہے ۔۔
الزام لیڈر شپ پے ہے ، بلاوال، زرداری اور نواز جیسے اس بیرونی سازش میں ملوث ہیں ، نفیسہ شاہ وغیرہ کا اس سے کیا لینا دینا۔
 

Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Bhutto played the main role.GHQ was at fault too but Bhutto refused to talk to Mujeeb.
It is not right and contrary to the political conflict at that time, that Bhutto didn't want to talk with Mujeeb
Bhutto had forced Yehya he would talk to Mujeeb prior to the assembly session and cut a deal for the future constitution. Mujeeb wanted a session first and then negotiations on the floor. Bhutto's statement that "tangein tor dein ge" was when parliament was called before he had reached an agreement with Mujeeb. Bhutto's claim was that he is the sole representative of W. Pak and Mujeeb must negotiate only with him.
By the way, I fully agree with Bhutto's stance on this issue.

When Yehya, after meeting with Mujeeb, made a statement that Mujeeb will be the future PM, Bhutto had forced him to take it back threating with agitation in W. Pakistan and argued that It was a political and constitutional matter and yehya should stay out of it . (other w. pak politicians except NAP were with Bhutto on this matter). At that time the issue of two prime minister for each wing was discussed as well.
It is a now a matter of speculation that Yehya was sincere or not, or he was to create a wedge within AL to cut a deal on 6-points with Mujeeb ( and between politicians of two wings by this offer prior to a parliament\s session.
It was the claim of Yehya that his offer of appointment of Mujeeb was in lieu of some concessions on constitution issues -- It was a constitutional assembly that was to form a constitution . Selecting a PM was not its job before implementing new constitution)