Dear Taliban leader, thank you for your letter to Malala

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
[h=1]Dear Taliban leader, thank you for your letter to Malala Yousafzai[/h] You were big enough to admit that your comrades tried to kill a young girl, but I would advise against picking a fight with women






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Malala Yousafzai gives her first speech since the Taliban tried to kill her for advocating girls' education at the UN in New York. Photograph: Brendan McDermid/Reuters


Dear Adnan Rasheed,



I am writing to you in my personal capacity. This may not be the opinion of the people of Pakistan or the policy of the government, but I write to thank you in response to the generous letter you have written to Malala Yousafzai.

Thanks for owning up that your comrades tried to kill her by shooting her in the head. Many of your well-wishers in Pakistan had been claiming the Taliban wouldn't attack a minor girl. They were of the opinion that Malala had shot herself in order to become a celebrity and get a UK visa. Women, as we know, will go to any lengths to get what they want.

So thanks for saying that a 14-year-old girl was the Taliban's foe. And if she rolls out the old cliche that the pen is mightier than sword, she must face the sword and find it for herself.


Like you, there are others who are still not sure whether it was "Islamically correct or wrong", or whether she deserved to be "killed or not", but then you go on to suggest that we leave it to Allah.


There are a lot of people in Pakistan, some of them not even Muslims, who, when faced with difficult choices or everyday hardships, say let's leave it to Allah. Sometimes it's the only solace for the helpless. But most people don't say leave it to Allah after shooting a kid in the face.

The whole point of leaving it to Allah is that He is a better judge than any human being, and there are matters that are beyond our comprehension maybe even beyond your favourite writer Bertrand Russell's comprehension.


Allow me to make another small theological point again about girls. Before the advent of Islam, before the prophet gave us the holy book that you want Malala to learn again, in the times we call jahilia, people used to bury their newborn daughters.

They probably found them annoying and thought it better to get rid of them before they learned to speak. We are told Islam came to put an end to such horrendous practices. If 1,400 years later, we have to shoot girls in the head in an attempt to shut them up, someone like Russell might say we haven't made much progress.


Like you, I did a bit of research in Malala's hometown in Swat valley, and I remember a wise journalist warning your commanders that the Taliban might get away with slitting people's throats in public squares but not to try shutting down the girls' school. The government practically handed over the valley to your comrades, but their rule didn't even last for a few weeks because they ordered all women to stay home.


There was only one lesson to be learned: you can fight the Pakistani army; you can try and almost kill Pakistan's commander-in-chief, as you so heroically did; you might wage a glorious jihad against brutal imperial forces. But you can't pick a fight with the working women in your neighbourhood and hope to win.

Those women may never get an audience at the UN but everyone from cotton picker to bank teller cannot be asked to shut up and stay home, for the simple reason that they won't.


It has also been suggested that your letter represents the mainstream opinion in Pakistan. But don't fall for this praise. You might think that a lot of people support your just fight, but there is a part of them that worries whether their girl will get the grades to get into a good university. And if you tell them there is a contradiction there, they might tell you to leave it to Allah.


I'm not sure if such frank language is appreciated in the Taliban's shura, but I'm sure, with your linguistic skills, you can phrase it better. I have a feeling that, like it or not, our women will kick arse.


Yes, we have heard all your arguments about how they are a weaker sex, they can't be in the workplace because they are impure five days a month, and if they are good wives they are pregnant nine months a year; but whenever I look around I have this sinking feeling that they are going to kick arse. Mine and yours.


Don't believe me? You may have seen the propaganda pictures of female pilots released by your former employer, Pakistan's air force. Some of them have started to fly fighter aircraft. Like you, I'm of the firm belief no good has ever come out of the Pakistani army's misadventures. But just think of the day when one of those female pilots decides to not leave it to Allah.





http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/18/letter-taliban-leader-malala-yousafzai-girls
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If this letter from the TTP is genuine and they admit what happened to Malala

All the thousands of posts on this forum and elsewhere, maligning a 15 year old CHILD deserve an apology

from them all individually an collectively


If a Bunch of terrorists can apologise, how many members of this forum who have for months now

labelled a Young Girl as a CIA spy amongst other things, will have the courage to do the same

I have no doubt, instead they will say it is all a lie and ONLY they can tell us the truth. Here is the first example !!

Dramay pe drama. Jo laug issay seriously sach samajhtay hain ya to bohat bholay hain ya paid hain!




I wish people would just leave her alone to live her life as she and her family have chosen.

She is not even in Pakistan anymore
 

Ghareeb ul watan

Councller (250+ posts)
Thanks Hanif. Your letter is 1000Km/hr speed slap to TTP-PTI dual face comrades always making lame excuses about Mala great sacrifice as drama!
 

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
If this letter from the TTP is genuine and they admit what happened to Malala

All the thousands of posts on this forum and elsewhere, maligning a 15 year old CHILD deserve an apology

from them all individually an collectively


If a Bunch of terrorists can apologise, how many members of this forum who have for months now

labelled a Young Girl as a CIA spy amongst other things, will have the courage to do the same

I have no doubt, instead they will say it is all a lie and ONLY they can tell us the truth. Here is the first example !!






I wish people would just leave her alone to live her life as she and her family have chosen.

She is not even in Pakistan anymore

I wish Malala all the best. As long as she makes the self-righteous mard-e-momin internet jihadi TTP apologists mad, she is doing a good thing.

BUT

I fear she is increasingly becoming a tool for the major powers to use and exploit. This is what I really fear will undermine her struggle for women empowerment against TTP mindset.
 

zhohaq

Minister (2k+ posts)
So basically Pak Army was liberating the women of Swat, FATA,Balochistan just like the Americans are liberating the women of Afghanistan.:) I think the first phase involves culling a large number of their menfolk.


But wasnt the point of the point of Adnan Rashid entire rather silly, letter the fact that Fazlulah henchmen attacked Malala not because she wanted education rather because they saw her & her dad as a propagandist for Military actions against them.

So what Letter did Hanif Okarvi read, exactly?

Or per character, he didn't bother to read it as he got his hook to get his tedious wind blowing into Guardian CIF.
 
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UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I wish Malala all the best. As long as she makes the self-righteous mard-e-momin internet jihadi TTP apologists mad, she is doing a good thing.

BUT

I fear she is increasingly becoming a tool for the major powers to use and exploit. This is what I really fear will undermine her struggle for women empowerment against TTP mindset.

Having listened to her and knowing what LITTLE I do of her, she strikes me as a genuinely bright intelligent mature child, who can work out much for herself,

Like you I hope and pray she finds her own way and according to her conscience as a Young Muslim Girl given a second chance at life by the Almighty.

BUT just to get the TTP to react is an achievement
 

ambroxo

Minister (2k+ posts)
اب سردار جی کی طرح ٹرک سرخ بتی پیچھے دوڑتے جاؤ
 

jerry719964

Senator (1k+ posts)
ایک عجیب سی بحث شروع ہو گئی ہے دو شدت پسند گروہ میں ۔۔ ملالہ کے ساتھ جو ہوا کوئی انسان ایسا نہیں ہو گا جو اسکی مذمت نہ کرے، مگر ملالہ پاکستان سے ہے جہاں لوگوں کی زندگی نارمل نہیں ، جہاں سب سے سستی چیز انسانی جان ہے ،ملالہ کوئی انوکھا کیس نہیں یا صرف طالبان ہی عورتوں اور لڑکیوں پر ظلم کرتے ہیں روز گینگ ریپ ، تیزاب،ناک کاٹنا اور کتنے اور واقعات ہوتے ہیں ہمارے ملگ میں۔۔میرے لئے تکلیف دہ بات یہ ہے کہ یہ دونوں شدت پسند گروہ اپنی لڑائی میں اسلام کو برا بنا کر پیش کر رہے ہیں ، ہماری قسمت کہ ہمارے یعنی پاکستانی مسلمانوں کے لئے دین کی تشریح یا طالبان کر رہے ہیں یا لبرل ۔۔۔۔۔
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Why doesn't someone ask these Taliban that if they love Islam so much why don't they serve the poor in the month of Ramadan? How many people have they helped? How much kindness have they shown to children and elderly? Even in Ramadan, they are focusing on threatening a child! kuch aur important nahin kya is mahinay mein?
 
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Theekra

Senator (1k+ posts)
So basically Pak Army was liberating the women of Swat, FATA,Balochistan just like the Americans are liberating the women of Afghanistan.:) I think the first phase involves culling a large number of their menfolk.


But wasnt the point of the point of Adnan Rashid entire rather silly, letter the fact that Fazlulah henchmen attacked Malala not because she wanted education rather because they saw her & her dad as a propagandist for Military actions against them.

So what Letter did Hanif Okarvi read, exactly?

Or per character, he didn't bother to read it as he got his hook to get his tedious wind blowing into Guardian CIF.

Swat operation took place in 2009, Malala was attacked in 2012. Ever since attack on Malala, there has been NO MILITARY offense against taliban in Swat or Waziristan.

Taliban admit that all she did in 2009 was write a blog about Taliban threats and keep going to school. So you folks walk into a place, write threatening letters to girls(which Adnan Rasheed defended in his piece) and its their fault if they don't go away and welcome you with 70 virgins?
 

احمد

Senator (1k+ posts)
اگر طالبان ''باجماعت'' بھی آکرسینہ کوبی کرتے ہوئے اقرار کریں کہ ہاں ہم نے ملالہ پر حملہ کیا تھا، تو پھر بھی ہمارے معاشرے میں موجود'' زامبی'' ماننے سے انکار کر دیں گے، ظالمان کی حمائت نا چھوڑو گے پاکستان اور معصوم بچوں پر ظلم کرو گے ، خود کش حملہ آور پھٹنے سے پہلے یہ نہیں کہتا کہ ،بھائیو تم لوگوں میں جو طالبان کے حامی ہیں دائیں طرف ہو جائیں اور جو طالبان کے مخالف ہیں وہ بائیں طرف، اُُنکی اپنی چونکہ '' پھٹ '' رہی ہوتی ہے اُسوقت،اس لیئے وہ اس قسم کے مذاکرات میں نہیں پڑتے، ویسے بھی وہ انجیکشن کے زیرِ اثر ہوتے اسلیئے وہ اس قسم کی احتیاطی تدابیر پر عمل نہیں کرتے جس کی وجہ سے اُنکے آپنے سپوٹر بھی '' اُڑ'' جاتے ہیں
 

zhohaq

Minister (2k+ posts)
Swat operation took place in 2009, Malala was attacked in 2012. Ever since attack on Malala, there has been NO MILITARY offense against taliban in Swat or Waziristan.

Taliban admit that all she did in 2009 was write a blog about Taliban threats and keep going to school. So you folks walk into a place, write threatening letters to girls(which Adnan Rasheed defended in his piece) and its their fault if they don't go away and welcome you with 70 virgins?


Much like Hanif letter I am perplexed if this is a "reply" to my post.

What's your point exactly? 70 virgin, Taliban, No military offense since 2009?
Confused jumble of words.
Which imaginary planet do you in habit? Or did you see this an opportunity for a mental oil change?


My concern isnt the latest idiocies of the Taliban or Malala new adventures as a Mascot for Gordon Brown Global education scam.
My point was that Hanif "letter" was more to himself then anyone else. The narcissist that he is. He doesn't give a rats *** about anyone in any of Pakistan conflicts zones, let alone Malala. He just saw an opportunity to toot his own horn which he is very found off.

His very "brave" letter "defending" the little girls of Pakistan from the rapacious troglodytes known as the TTP.I am sure his international audience will lap it up.
Did you learn anything, gained any new insight? Did a you learn anything about the conflict bedevilling Pakistan?
What was his point? except promote his mythology and get a byline in Guardian CIF.


Its very concerning when one Pakistan most celebrated authors seems more unhinged then a TTP operative.

If you disagree please try to explain the point all of this?
Those women may never get an audience at the UN but everyone – from cotton picker to bank teller – cannot be asked to shut up and stay home, for the simple reason that they won't...I have a feeling that, like it or not, our women will kick arse.


Yes, we have heard all your arguments about how they are a weaker sex, they can't be in the workplace because they are impure five days a month, and if they are good wives they are pregnant nine months a year; but whenever I look around I have this sinking feeling that they are going to kick arse. Mine and yours.


Are we pretending that Pakistani women are suddenly empowered, thanks to the BBC initiated horse and pony show known as Malala. I am sure the 20 women who show up every month to Multans hospitals like clockwork with their faced burnt with acid may disagree with the notion. Kick arse
 
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patriot_purdesi

Senator (1k+ posts)
Hats off to Hanif for writing this letter to Talib Adnan Rashid

Dear Taliban leader, thank you for your letter to Malala Yousafzai

You were big enough to admit that your comrades tried to kill a young girl, but I would advise against picking a fight with women


Dear Adnan Rasheed,

I am writing to you in my personal capacity. This may not be the opinion of the people of Pakistan or the policy of the government, but I write to thank you in response to the generous letter you have written to Malala Yousafzai. Thanks for owning up that your comrades tried to kill her by shooting her in the head. Many of your well-wishers in Pakistan had been claiming the Taliban wouldn't attack a minor girl. They were of the opinion that Malala had shot herself in order to become a celebrity and get a UK visa. Women, as we know, will go to any lengths to get what they want. So thanks for saying that a 14-year-old girl was the Taliban's foe. And if she rolls out the old cliche that the pen is mightier than sword, she must face the sword and find it for herself.

Like you, there are others who are still not sure whether it was "Islamically correct or wrong", or whether she deserved to be "killed or not", but then you go on to suggest that we leave it to Allah.

There are a lot of people in Pakistan, some of them not even Muslims, who, when faced with difficult choices or everyday hardships, say let's leave it to Allah. Sometimes it's the only solace for the helpless. But most people don't say leave it to Allah after shooting a kid in the face. The whole point of leaving it to Allah is that He is a better judge than any human being, and there are matters that are beyond our comprehension – maybe even beyond your favourite writer Bertrand Russell's comprehension.

Allow me to make another small theological point – again about girls. Before the advent of Islam, before the prophet gave us the holy book that you want Malala to learn again, in the times we call jahilia, people used to bury their newborn daughters. They probably found them annoying and thought it better to get rid of them before they learned to speak. We are told Islam came to put an end to such horrendous practices. If 1,400 years later, we have to shoot girls in the head in an attempt to shut them up, someone like Russell might say we haven't made much progress.

Like you, I did a bit of research in Malala's hometown in Swat valley, and I remember a wise journalist warning your commanders that the Taliban might get away with slitting people's throats in public squares but not to try shutting down the girls' school. The government practically handed over the valley to your comrades, but their rule didn't even last for a few weeks because they ordered all women to stay home.

There was only one lesson to be learned: you can fight the Pakistani army; you can try and almost kill Pakistan's commander-in-chief, as you so heroically did; you might wage a glorious jihad against brutal imperial forces. But you can't pick a fight with the working women in your neighbourhood and hope to win. Those women may never get an audience at the UN but everyone – from cotton picker to bank teller – cannot be asked to shut up and stay home, for the simple reason that they won't.

It has also been suggested that your letter represents the mainstream opinion in Pakistan. But don't fall for this praise. You might think that a lot of people support your just fight, but there is a part of them that worries whether their girl will get the grades to get into a good university. And if you tell them there is a contradiction there, they might tell you to leave it to Allah.

I'm not sure if such frank language is appreciated in the Taliban's shura, but I'm sure, with your linguistic skills, you can phrase it better. I have a feeling that, like it or not, our women will kick arse.

Yes, we have heard all your arguments about how they are a weaker sex, they can't be in the workplace because they are impure five days a month, and if they are good wives they are pregnant nine months a year; but whenever I look around I have this sinking feeling that they are going to kick arse. Mine and yours.

Don't believe me? You may have seen the propaganda pictures of female pilots released by your former employer, Pakistan's air force. Some of them have started to fly fighter aircraft. Like you, I'm of the firm belief no good has ever come out of the Pakistani army's misadventures. But just think of the day when one of those female pilots decides to not leave it to Allah.


http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/18/letter-taliban-leader-malala-yousafzai-girls
 

Politcs

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Hats off to Hanif for writing this letter to Talib Adnan Rashid

Brave writer not like ML who invited extremists leaders in his program to tell people what should be government of Pakistan policy towards other countries.
 

Mehrushka

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I wish people would just leave her alone to live her life as she and her family have chosen.

She is not even in Pakistan anymore

sir people had moved on,people here have much bigger problems than malala...the thing is west keeps rubbing her news in our faces again and again in media.....what to do?:) Why is the west highlighting her in media so much?any idea....and plz dont tell me they care for the children in pakistan...bcoz i wont buy that story:biggthumpup:
 

aimless

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Hats off to Hanif for writing this letter to Talib Adnan Rashid


جسنے جمعے کے دن خودکش حملہ نہ کیا وہ ہم میں سے نہیں - حکیم اللہ محسود
so when he and his other commanders r doing that ...it would be nice if all ttp commanders do that in one day and let us live in peace after that
 

Malik495

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why doesn't someone ask these Taliban that if they love Islam so much why don't they serve the poor in the month of Ramadan? How many people have they helped? How much kindness have they shown to children and elderly? Even in Ramadan, they are focusing on threatening a child! kuch aur important nahin kya is mahinay mein?

Inn taliban k paas itni communication ki facilities kahan se aati hen jo yeh hr kaam men taang araana farz samjhty hen...koi bhi masla ho inn logon ka point of view lazmi aata hay..i have serious doubts k inn taliban ka naam use kr k buht se log apni dukaan chamka rahy hen...