KhanHaripur

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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Dancing out of joy is a not an impermissible act whereas dancing while doing zikr.


The Sufi Raqs (dance) in light of Shariah

There has been some controversy lurking around regarding legitimacy of the Sufi Raqs (dance) or Hadra as it is called in Arab world which is practiced by eminent Sufis and Mashaikh. People who carry deep Bughz (hatred) for Sufis are often seen spreading propaganda that Sufis are dancers and they have nothing to do with Shariah, but what they forget is that they have no proof whatsoever from Quran and Sunnah on “NAFI” of Raqs whereas we have overwhelming proofs which establish Raqs directly from hadith itself, even absence of Nafi is itself a proof of it being allowed and it cannot be declared haram until proven otherwise.



Proof # 1


عن أنس قال: كانت الحبشة يزفنون بين يدي رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلّم ويرقصون ويقولون: محمد عبد صالح ، فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلّم: ما يقولون؟ قالوا: يقولون: محمد عبد صالح

Translation: It is narrated by Anas (R.A) that the Habashis were presenting their art in front of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) and “THEY WERE DANCING (Yarqasun)” while saying: Muhammadun Abdun Salih (i.e. Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم the righteous slave). The Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) asked: What are they saying? They said: Muhammadun Abdun Salih [Musnad Ahmed bin Hanbal, Volume No.3, Page no. 152]



Sheikh Shu’ayb al Ar'anut said after this hadith:

إسناده صحيح على شرط مسلم

Translation: The Chain is “SAHIH” on the criteria of “(SAHIH) MUSLIM” [ibid 3/152]


Note: This hadith explicitly uses the word "RAQS” which proves without any shadow of doubt that It was dancing, however the Anti-Sufi people cite the hadith of Bukhari which only mentions “PLAYING”



Some people claim that this above hadith is only understood from hadith of Bukhari which mentions Abyssinians or Ethiopians "PLAYING WITH SPEARS" inside the Prophet's mosque. Now our reply to them is the same i.e. the hadith of Bukhari is understood from the hadith of Musnad Ahmed which is Sahih on criteria of Sahih Muslim, hence both playing and Raqs become allowed, If they are truthful then they should come with proof from hadith which mentions that Raqs is “EXCLUDED” from this. Therefore Alhamdolillah both ahadith go in favour of Sufis.




Proof # 2


أتيت النبي ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏وجعفر ‏ ‏وزيد ‏ ‏قال ‏ ‏فقال ‏ ‏لزيد ‏ ‏أنت ‏ ‏مولاي ‏ ‏فحجل ‏ ‏قال وقال ‏ ‏لجعفر ‏ ‏أنت أشبهت خلقي وخلقي قال ‏ ‏فحجل ‏ ‏وراء ‏ ‏زيد ‏ ‏قال وقال لي أنت مني وأنا منك قال ‏ ‏فحجلت ‏ ‏وراء ‏ ‏جعفر

Translation: Hadrat Ali (ra) said: I went to the Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) with Jafar (RA) and Zayd (ra), The Prophet (saw) said to Zayd: You are my freedman (anta Mawlay), “AT THIS ZAYD BEGAN TO HOP ON ONE LEG (HAJALA) AROUND THE PROPHET” then the Prophet (saw) said to Jafar (ra): You resemble me in my creation and my manners, at this Jafar also began to hop behind Zayd, then the Prophet (saw) said to Ali (ra): You are from me and I am from you, at this he also started to hop behind Jafar. [Musnad Ahmed bin Hanbal 1:537 #857] Click Here for Scanned Page (85)

This hadith proves from the acceptance of Prophet (Peace be upon him) and Amal of great Sahaba like Zayd (ra), Jafar (ra) and Mawla Ali (ra) that doing Raqs is fine.




Imam al Hafidh al Bayhaqi (rah) in explanation of this hadith said:

وفي هَذَا إنْ صَحَّ دلالةٌ على جوازِ الحَجْلِ، وهو أَنْ يَرْفَعَ رِجْلاً ويَقْفِزَ على الأُخْرَى مِنَ الفَرَحِ، فالرقصُ الَّذِي يكونُ عَلَى مِثَالِهِ يكونُ مِثْلَهُ في الجوازِ. والله أعلمُ

Translation: In this (hadith) is “SAHIH PROOF” and "PERMISSIBILITY" of hopping (dancing) which includes “RISING UP OR JUMPING IN STATE OF JOY” and also that of doing “RAQS” being similar to it which is also allowed – And Allah knows the best [Sunnan al Baihaqi al Kubra (15/333)]



Note: There is one narrator of this hadith i.e. Hani bin Hani upon whom Salafis do Jirah, now here is Mufassar Tadil on him.



Muhaditheen said:

هانئ بن هانئ عن على رضى الله عنه. قال ابن المدينى: مجهول. وقال النسائي: ليس به بأس. وذكره ابن حبان في الثقات

Translation: Hani bin Hani narrated from Ali (Radhi Allaho Anho). Ibn Mudayni said he is Majhool. Imam Nasai (rah) said: “THERE IS NO HARM IN HIM” and Ibn Hibban mentioned him in his “THIQAAT (Reliable narrators)” [Mizan ul Aitidal (7/71)]

Note: Remember being Majhool in sight of some muhadith does not mean the narrator is weak, because all muhaditheen did not know about all rijal, so If Tadeel is done by other Muhaditheen and some call him Majhool then Tadeel will supercede.



A) Imam Tirimdhi declared many ahadith from Hani bin Hani as “HASAN SAHIH” [Sunnan Tirimdhi Volume No.5, Hadith #3798]



B) Imam Ibn Majah (rah) narrated from him and did Sukoot [Sunnan Ibn Majah, Muqadma, Hadith # 143]



C) Imam Ibn Hibban mentioned him in his ”Kitab ul Thiqaat” (5/508)

It is thus radiantly clear that this narration is Sahih, as is also stated by Salafi’s leading Muhadith Shaykh Ahmad Shaakir in his Tahqiq of Musnad Ahmad where he said: “Its chain is sound (إسناده صحيح)“ [Musnad Ahmad Volume 001, Page No. 537, Hadith Number 857, FN: 2]



D) Imam al Ajli (rah) said:

1885 ـ هانىء ابن هانىء، كوفي، تابعي ثقة

Translation: Hani bin Hani, Kufi “TABI AND THIQA” [Thiqat al Ajli Volume No.1, Page No. 454]




E) Imam al Haythami (rah) said about ahadith having Hani bin Hani

ورجال أحمد والبزار رجال الصحيح غير هانىء بن هانىء وهو ثقة

Translation: The Rijaal of Ahmed and Bazaar are those of Sahih except Hani bin Hani who is “THIQA” [Majma az Zawaid (8/102)]

Nasir ud-din Albani the Salafi authority declared ahadith from Hani bin Hani as “SAHIH” [Sahih Sunnan Ibn Majah by Albani, (1/119)

So the hadith is absolutely sahih and the Jirah Mubhim on this narrator is not given any worth.




Proof from other scholars that Raqs is allowed



Scholar # 1

Imam Jalal al-Din Suyuti (rah) was asked for a Question “a group of Sufis who had gathered for a session of dhikr,” and he replied: How can one condemn making dhikr while standing, or standing while making dhikr, when Allah Most High says, “. . . those who invoke Allah standing, sitting, and upon their sides” (Qur'an 3:191). And ‘A'isha (Allah be well pleased with her) said, “The Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) used to invoke Allah at all of his times” [Sahih Muslim, 1.282: 373]. And if dancing is added to this standing, it may not be condemned, as it is of the joy of spiritual vision and ecstasy, and the hadith exists [in many sources, such as [Musnad al-Imam Ahmad, 1.108, with a sound (hasan) chain of transmission] that Ja‘far ibn Abi Talib danced in front of the Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) when the Prophet told him, “You resemble me in looks and in character,” dancing from the happiness he felt from being thus addressed.......and the Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) did not condemn him for doing so, this being a basis for the legal acceptability of the Sufis dancing from the joys of the ecstasies they experience, Hence it is correct to stand and dance during gatherings of Dhikr and Sama according to a group of Majority of Scholars, among them being Shaykh ul-Islam Iz udin bin Abd al-Salaam.

Reference:

Imam Jalal ud din Suyuti (Rahimuhullah) in Al Hawi lil Fatawi, Volume No. 2, Page No. 234 Published by Maktaba al Asriyyah, Beirut, Lebanon.


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So the Sultan of Ulama i.e. Imam al Hafidh Izz bin Abdus Salaam (rah) allowed Raqs along with “GREAT SCHOLARS” as said by Imam Suyuti (rah) who was himself Mujaddad of his time.


Scholar # 2

Imam Nawawi said: “Dancing is not unlawful, unless it is languid, like the movements of the effeminate. And it is permissible to speak and to sing poetry, unless it satirizes someone, is obscene, or alludes to a particular woman” [Minhaj at talibin wa `umdat al-muttaqin. Cairo 1338/1920. Reprint. Cairo: Mustafa al-Babi al-Halabi edition, Pae No. 152]



Scholar # 3


Imam Ibn Hajar Al-Haytami also mentions “it is permissible to stand and dance during gatherings of Dhikr and audition according to a group of great scholars, among them being Shaykh al- Islam Ibn Abdus Salam.” (Fatawa al-hadithiyya, p. 298)
 
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evanescence

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Every Pakistani must Plant a Tree (Tree plantation in Islam): Islamic Scholar Dr.Tahir-ul-Qadri

Pakistan wapas jaane ki tayyaariyan urooj per hane lihaza aek maheene ke liye yeh forum hijack hone wala hae!

Dont see who is saying, look what he is saying. This is one of the way to make our Pakistan Real Green.
Just implement it, nothing harm in it and dont tell any one you are following Dr. TQ just say this is a good thing for Pakistan.
 

bilal6516

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Weight Loss & Control Tips by Islamic Scholar Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri [Very Simple & Easy Weight Reduction Diet Program ]

I dont know about a dentist... This idea has been tried in the past...
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yea... didnt work out that well.

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please tell me

1.. what a dentist advise most of time when someone visit for dental check up ?
2. have you used natrual fresh mishwak in your life
3. by showing this pic? you are trying make of fun of whom??this person or ????
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Every Pakistani must Plant a Tree (Tree plantation in Islam): Islamic Scholar Dr.Tahir-ul-Qadri

@karachiwala ,,,come to topic... accept the message which is constructive
Why would I accept something from an imposter? Even if he gives me medication I would still doubt him. TahirulPadri is this biggest fraud of this century. I rate him next to Kazzab yusuf.
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Every Pakistani must Plant a Tree (Tree plantation in Islam): Islamic Scholar Dr.Tahir-ul-Qadri

Dont see who is saying, look what he is saying. This is one of the way to make our Pakistan Real Green.
Just implement it, nothing harm in it and dont tell any one you are following Dr. TQ just say this is a good thing for Pakistan.
Sorry that does not hold true. I must watch who is saying before believing. I do not like imposters, self proclaimed ulema. If you want reasns then I have plenty - just be ready to listen to others also.
 

evanescence

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Every Pakistani must Plant a Tree (Tree plantation in Islam): Islamic Scholar Dr.Tahir-ul-Qadri

Sorry that does not hold true. I must watch who is saying before believing. I do not like imposters, self proclaimed ulema. If you want reasns then I have plenty - just be ready to listen to others also.

Well this is your choice to see the person and start believing whatever he said apart from the content.
And you dont have plenty of reasons except couple of youtube videos shutting one eye from other of thousands.
Be happy with your perception and dont plant anything because of Dr. TQ ok?
 

evanescence

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Every Pakistani must Plant a Tree (Tree plantation in Islam): Islamic Scholar Dr.Tahir-ul-Qadri

Why would I accept something from an imposter? Even if he gives me medication I would still doubt him. TahirulPadri is this biggest fraud of this century. I rate him next to Kazzab yusuf.

Kawan (crows) day aakhan naal baaz nahi digday.
 

AsifAmeer

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Weight Loss & Control Tips by Islamic Scholar Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri [Very Simple & Easy Weight Reduction Diet Program ]

This was an inside joke . ([MENTION=14890]mrk123[/MENTION] [MENTION=23319]Temojin[/MENTION] [MENTION=28598]Vitamin_C[/MENTION] [MENTION=13871]Unicorn[/MENTION] )

I am not making fun of Mufti Taqi Usmani's status. However his teeth are on the table.

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please tell me

1.. what a dentist advise most of time when someone visit for dental check up ?
2. have you used natrual fresh mishwak in your life
3. by showing this pic? you are trying make of fun of whom??this person or ????
 

sherkhan314

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Love of Indian Police Officers for Pakistani Global Ambassador of Peace Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri

Specially for you.


Naam mustafvi aur follow kartay ho us bande ko jisko logon nay sajda kiya.

Allah he samjhe tum jaison ko.

Waqai dijjaal aur deception ka zamana hai.!
 

AsifAmeer

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Love of Indian Police Officers for Pakistani Global Ambassador of Peace Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri

What humility this man has.. That alone is enough for me to listen to him carefully.
 

Serving Islam

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Elections under present system a joke with nation : Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri

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LAHORE – Minhaj-ul-Quran Chief Dr Muhammad Tahirul Qadri has said that elections whether to be held sooner or later under the present system will be a joke with the nation. Addressing a special meeting of Majlis-e-Shura of MQ through video conferencing on Sunday, he said outcome of the present electoral system was that the institutions were pitted against each other. More than 1000 office holders of different chapters of MQ attended the meeting. Faiz-ur-Rehman Durrani, Dr Raheeq Abbasi, Sheikh Zahid Fayyaz, Ahmad Nawaz Anjum, GM Malik, Raja Jamil Ajmal, Rana Fayyaz Ahmad, Altaf Hussain Gilani, Anwar Akhtar, Jawad Hamid, Rana Muhammad Idrees, Aqil Malik and others were also present on the occasion.


“Those who consider elections as solution of prevailing problems are befooling the masses. Handover of authority to another group of privileged elite in the name of elections will be a national crime as it will further compound the problems instead of solving them”, Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri said, adding, the present system has given nothing to the nation except inflation, dearness, energy crisis, clash among institutions, unemployment, neglect of social sector, corruption and overall national paralysis. He further said that those claiming to bring about change in the elections would not get anything except disappointment. He said that both the religious and political parties were part of the system.

He made it clear that he did not want to change the constitution or state structure but electoral system which the political parties and privileged elite had erected for protection of their vested interests
. He said that political and religious parties put their manifestos at the backburner and replaced it with exchange of abusive and harsh words. He said that people in the developed democracies voted on the basis of manifestos but in Pakistan the culture of winning horses held sway, which was the major hurdle in the way of emergence of competent and able leadership. The country could come out of prevailing crises by changing the electoral system. He said that MQI stood for reforms. But there was a need to shore up economy, improve law and order situation, give relief to hard pressed people and eliminate terrorism and extremism. This called for setting up of a national government.

MQI’s Secretary General Dr Raheeq Abbasi moved a resolution against price hike, power outages, terrorism and militancy and target killing which the Majlis-e-Shura adopted with unanimity. The Shura rejected the present electoral system through a resolution.

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-n...tions-under-present-system-a-joke-with-nation
 
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karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Elections under present system a joke with nation : Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri

We must also add Tahirul Qadri is a joke with the Muslim Ummah
 

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